Who would you not mind dying?

[StoneGold]

Read the question carefully. This is not who you want to die. This is what characters would you not mind getting killed off because it makes the story seem more important, but really the characters were background, so it is no major loss if they die?

[Kevinroc]

If the resulting story was interesting enough, I don't care who would get killed off.

I really like Marvel's Thor. I really liked Oeming's Ragnarok (even though Thor really did not die in it).

So, yeah... There ya go...

[Micro]

hum..from the way you state the question the only character that comes to mind is Sentry. There are several characters I would love for marvel to kill off(Jessica Jones..cough, cough). And there are certainly serveral characters I wouldn't want to see killed off(Spider-man, Captain America.ect). But as far a character that I don't necessarily dislike, but don't really mind getting killed off for a good story, I'd say Sentry. Plus, anything that could actually kill him would have to be a fairly major story I would figure.

Also, even though I think Young Avengers is one of the best books Marvel currently puts out, I'd have to say I'm not attached enough to any one of the characters to be that upset about one of them dieing, as long as it was done well and for a reason.

[dingo]

I am mildly looking forward to it, but I have to admit I wouldn't be bothered if any of the cast of the new Heroes for Hire died. Except maybe the Black Cat, but even then I would hardly be upset.

[Siddon]

This year

Punisher

I like the character enough but I think its run its course and I want the best Punisher writer (Ennis) to finish it.

Five Years

J. Jonah. Jameson

The unmasking is going to give him new life.... but after that there is no need for JJ any more and its time to say goodbye and move on.

10 years

Luke Cage

I think Bendis is the high point for the character and when Bendis goes so goes the Power Man.

20 years

Namor

75 years is long enough for this character to tread water he needs to join Toro.

[mrc1214]

I really wouldnt care if Namor went down.

[firestarfan]

Yeah, I'm with you on Namor. He's undoubtedly an important part of Marvel History, and I do have tremendous respect for the character, but there's only so much you can do with him, and his death would set off a (pun intended) tidal wave of consequences that would certainly be interesting to see.

I also wouldn't mind if Carol Danvers had to go.

Ditto the vast majority of "new" characters associated with the X-Men ("new" = "created after 1984.") There are just too damn many, and other than a few exceptions, the writers haven't really made me care about any of them.

[dingo]

I wouldn't like to see Namor dead. He is the only one that Reed will fight with as a matter of pride. I like that extra dimension to Reed and taking Namor away would remove it.

[Violently Apathetic]

I have to agree with Dingo, while removing one of Marvel's first characters and the ruler of 75% of the world would lead to interesting stories I think it would be more detrimental in the long run. Though that is likely a Namor bias speaking on my part...

As for me...uh...I'm blanking at the moment...if Xavier hadn't died like half a dozen times over by now I'd say him but yeah...

[GoGo Yubari]

Gambit. He has some decent moments here and there but I'd be fine with seeing him die.

[Matthew K.]

Read the question carefully. This is not who you want to die. This is what characters would you not mind getting killed off because it makes the story seem more important, but really the characters were background, so it is no major loss if they die?

Let's see...if the death makes the story more important (& is a great story in & of itself...of course) I wouldn't mind seeing Omega Red perish. I like the guy as a villain & a threat, but if Marvel could spun an emotional tale of turmoil involving this guy in a significant way...I'd dig that.

& FirestarFan--dig the avatar (spider-friends.com is a great site)

[Cephus]

I wouldn't mind seeing *ANY* character in the MU die if it made for good storytelling. If that means you kill Spider-Man or Wolverine (please, someone kill Wolverine!) and a fantastic story results from it, I'm all for it. Of course, that has to come with the caveat that NOBODY EVER BRINGS THEM BACK!

Which, this being the MU, they'll be back next week so it's all meaningless.

[astronato]

Marvel's Marvel (Captain/Ms.) characters have never done anything for me. Billy Batson is (was) Captain Marvel to me. I mostly dislike legacy heroes but they could keep killing off the Captain Marvels in the Marvel U for dramatic effect and I wouldn't mind.

I'd prefer a Marvel type character die in Annihilation than Quasar.

[1WEBHEAD]

I woun't mind if Franklin and/or Valerie Richards die. Its nothing personal, just business.

[mandog]

If that means you kill Spider-Man or Wolverine (please, someone kill Wolverine!)


Dont you know Wolverine cant be killed. Why in his most recent issue he was fried down to a pile of shiny bones and he still regenrated back. By the way this nearly made me puke on my comic.

[Leebenhouse]

Dont you know Wolverine cant be killed. Why in his most recent issue he was fried down to a pile of shiny bones and he still regenrated back. By the way this nearly made me puke on my comic.
I thought that was bad writing. He almost died when his adamantium was ripped out in X-men #25, yet he manages to survive nearly being vaporized. So of course, following that, he wouldnt have died in Future Imperfect either.

Bad, Bad writing. Claremount said Wolverine could regenerate from even one cell, but there'd have to be a sufficient energy source behind it.

[Cephus]

Dont you know Wolverine cant be killed. Why in his most recent issue he was fried down to a pile of shiny bones and he still regenrated back. By the way this nearly made me puke on my comic.

And you wonder why I don't read anything Wolverine-related?

[Haunt]

Luke Cage. if he were to die, his daughter would be the most important little girl in the Marvel Universe. or, if i can't be Luke, then Jessica Jones. she's connected to everyone, so it would be a poignant death.

[the invincible ironfran-cis]

Cable. Boring as the selection of 500 channels he is named after.

[Mick Martin]

I would definitely mind if Namor died. And I don't agree that he's a limited character. There are plenty of more things to be done with him. Writers just have to get a little more creative and stop the whole "He's Prince of Atlantis! He loses his throne! He regains his throne! He loses his throne! He gets a girlfriend! She dies! He regains his throne" etc.

In fact, if Joe Quesada knocked on my door tomorrow and asked me to pitch him a series idea on the spot, it would most likely either be a Namor series or a Defenders series.

As for folks I wouldn't mind dying...I wouldn't mind if Betty Banner STAYED dead. Her status as either dead or alive has been so up in the air since the second half of Jones's Hulk run, and honestly I think that she's a character whose stories have all been told.

[Faded]

Cyclops.

I don't really dislike him as much as I come off at times, but he's 1) a long established character with tons of stories behind him 2) a major character, which would make a fullfilling death if written well.

[StoneGold]

I thought that was bad writing.
Or the artist thought it would look cooler that way. We don't really know without looking at the script.

[Leebenhouse]

Or the artist thought it would look cooler that way. We don't really know without looking at the script.
Hopefully it was the artist. I don't think Way would make that boneheaded of a mistake in a plot.

It would all be depending on how they died. Wasted deaths, like the New Warriors, (sans microbe, god that character sucked) suck, but deep deaths, like Blue Beetle in DC Countdown are good deaths.

[Kevinroc]

Hopefully it was the artist. I don't think Way would make that boneheaded of a mistake in a plot.

It would all be depending on how they died. Wasted deaths, like the New Warriors, (sans microbe, god that character sucked) suck, but deep deaths, like Blue Beetle in DC Countdown are good deaths.

The Blue Beetle's death was terrible. It essentially amounted to the other DC characters not caring when their friend comes screaming for help despite having a lot of evidence to support his claims.

While The New Warriors didn't exactly get the greatest death scene, it was still better than Blue Beetle's.

[Leebenhouse]

Well, his was a heck of a lot better than Rocket Red's, that's for sure.

Red, and the Warriors were just cannon fodder, at least Beetle pretty much was the star of a 80 page book before he died. And he died a heroes death too, refusing to submit to evil Max Lord.(even though I got pissed they killed him off, he sure got a better death than a lot of other heroes have gotten.)

[Majinlex]

Luke Cage. if he were to die, his daughter would be the most important little girl in the Marvel Universe....

Wait, deja vu... Didn't somebody else say this exact same thing before. Was it you?
Why would that make her the most important girl in the MU? And also, why would you want her to be? (I think somebody asked those questions before as well)
That's weird...

Anyway, I wouldn't Ms. Marvel/Binary/Warbird/Carol Danvers dying, but that's just me.

[Kevinroc]

Well, his was a heck of a lot better than Rocket Red's, that's for sure.

Red, and the Warriors were just cannon fodder, at least Beetle pretty much was the star of a 80 page book before he died. And he died a heroes death too, refusing to submit to evil Max Lord.(even though I got pissed they killed him off, he sure got a better death than a lot of other heroes have gotten.)

Rocket Red was cannon fodder. Ain't no doubt about that.

Beetle's death was proceeded by 70-something pages of him screaming to everyone he knew for help after his house was blown up, his best friend hospitalized, his assets stolen, etc. and still not getting the help and dying alone.

The Warriors, while definitely not a great death, were killed off as the catalyst for the entire crossover as an example of "those irresponsible masked vigilantes."

[Haunt]

Wait, deja vu... Didn't somebody else say this exact same thing before. Was it you?

i believe it was Bendis.

Why would that make her the most important girl in the MU?

ask Bendis

And also, why would you want her to be? (I think somebody asked those questions before as well)

because i love character growth.

Anyway, I wouldn't Ms. Marvel/Binary/Warbird/Carol Danvers dying, but that's just me.

me neither; as long as it's meaningful.

[Lonewalker]

Captain America. There are others that can continue the legacy, and it would lead to a great storytelling.

Of course, I only wouldn't mind if written well and, most importantly, wouldn't be retconned. Which is basically asking for a miracle nowadays... =/

[Miss Kitty Fantastico]

Well it's a strange question. I'm opposed to 'cheap death' on principle, the idea that a known character with history and some importance in a fictional world can be killed off just to amp up a new threat, or killed 'randomly' just to get a reaction from other characters. It's true that events happen randomly in reality, but fiction isn't reality, and I don't think it's unfair to expect higher standards. If you want reality, live your life - a work of fiction should have meaning in and of itself.

So if some background player got blatted out just to make Doctor Doom's latest insane plan seem more threatening, I'd be somewhat annoyed whether I knew them or not. That said, if a death was handled in a well-thought-out manner, appropriate to the character and whatever story they seemed to be part of, there's a stunning variety of characters I'd be quite happy to see killed. I mean, Captain America, Iron Man, Spider-Man, Wolverine - practically Marvel's entire A-list are up for grabs so far as I'm concerned, just because I'm not really attached to them emotionally. I enjoy seeing them as part of a good story - the above in Civil War, for example - but I don't buy their titles, and it wouldn't leave me missing anything if they went to the big storyboard in the sky.

Conversely, if anyone lays a finger on the characters I do care about and read every month, there'll be hell to pay :p I can deal with a beloved character of mine dying, but it has to be very well handled - we're talking Shakespeare here - and even so, if it were up to me I wouldn't have them die, because then what would I read next month?

[Roquefort Raider]

I would not allow any writer to kill a character he or she did not create. It's a matter of respect, and a way to make sure that writers bring something to the Marvel universe before they take anything away.

The drawback is that basically, it ensures that the classic characters will live forever. But isn't that better than having them be resurrected time and again when the company realizes it was really dumb to kill them in the first place?

[Orbis De Ignis]

That's an interesting way of doing it. I'd say that should be made invalid 11 years after the original creator has died(because 10 would be cruel).

I don't really want anyone to die except for more minor characters and the odd rowdy villian. It just never works out. We're dealing with God like beings. You don't need a death to make an emotional story, anyway.

[Kevinroc]

I would not allow any writer to kill a character he or she did not create. It's a matter of respect, and a way to make sure that writers bring something to the Marvel universe before they take anything away.

The drawback is that basically, it ensures that the classic characters will live forever. But isn't that better than having them be resurrected time and again when the company realizes it was really dumb to kill them in the first place?

Hate to put this on the flipside but Jim Starlin did not create Captain Mar-Vell.

[idwfan]

I really wouldnt care if Namor went down.

I totally agree. With 70 odd years of history behind him I think that Marvel could do alot with his demise. Like Namor Disassembled...oh wait, no. But seriously with Namorita dead now as well there could be oppurtunity there to mould a very good story but you would need someone who can do underwater art very well. Ideally Michael Turner or Tyler Kirkam! But you can hope and dream.

[Orbis De Ignis]

Hmm, on second thought.

Bendis.

[Victor]

As long as it's important to the plot and they actually stay dead. This is without the biggest problem because nobody EVER stays dead they are always back in a few months. It doesn't even have impact anymore. Peter should still be dead he gave his life for a great cause. His sister would have been proud(thanks alot Joss Whedon!) Even Jean's death doesn't matter because we all know it's only a matter of time until she springs back up.

And if your going to bring everyone back anyway we really should bring Cyber and Stryfe back!

[Faded]

I would not allow any writer to kill a character he or she did not create. It's a matter of respect, and a way to make sure that writers bring something to the Marvel universe before they take anything away.

The drawback is that basically, it ensures that the classic characters will live forever. But isn't that better than having them be resurrected time and again when the company realizes it was really dumb to kill them in the first place?

I actually respect that state of mind. Though I would have if every creator killed their creations after their respective run was over (like in X-Statix).

Good points though. :)

[Haunt]

I would not allow any writer to kill a character he or she did not create. It's a matter of respect, and a way to make sure that writers bring something to the Marvel universe before they take anything away.

The drawback is that basically, it ensures that the classic characters will live forever. But isn't that better than having them be resurrected time and again when the company realizes it was really dumb to kill them in the first place?


too limited. i think that whoever makes the biggest mark on the character (development-wise) gets dibs on their death. it forces writers to actually invest something in a character before ending them. for instance, i think Christopher Priest earned the right to kill T'challa during his run; if he so chose.

[the invincible ironfran-cis]

I'd have to say that I would take a serious concensus first before anyone major died.

If the originator is dead, I would consult the second top banana. I wouldn't want to hurt anyone that way.

I wouldn't like it too much if someone erased me from exist without asking my creator.:)

That's a real interesting thread though.

[Young Avenger]

Hopefully it was the artist. I don't think Way would make that boneheaded of a mistake in a plot.

Way is not writing the regular Wolverine book.

[Leebenhouse]

Way is not writing the regular Wolverine book.
Whoops, I thought somebody told me Way was taking over both books. Guggenheim, WTF mate?

a veteran writer for TV's The Practice, Law & Order, and most recently, CSI

I liked it when that one guy from Law and Order wrote the Deadshot Mini, but wow, Guggenheim and Ramos. Sorry to see Ramos this way.

Ehh, no biggie, I'm liking the Way/Dillon a lot better, their Wolverine is a classic.

[Comic_Mobsta]

The Hulk and or bruce banner..

[shaunyc56]

Jessica Jones, I like Jess, I do, I love how she's not the average goody good wife type. However Luke Cage is one of my most favorite characters. I think seeing a single dad Luke, trying to balance being an Avenger and being a father to a very special little girl could be very interesting. Throw in some scenes of Luke Cage and Iron Fist trying to figure out diapers and bottles, it could be good.

[Haunt]

Jessica Jones, I like Jess, I do, I love how she's not the average goody good wife type. However Luke Cage is one of my most favorite characters. I think seeing a single dad Luke, trying to balance being an Avenger and being a father to a very special little girl could be very interesting. Throw in some scenes of Luke Cage and Iron Fist trying to figure out diapers and bottles, it could be good.


i like that idea. it would make Luke like Franco from 'Rescue Me.'

[shaunyc56]

i like that idea. it would make Luke like Franco from 'Rescue Me.'


Exactly, I also think it would change all the interactions w/ females that Luke has. Don't get me wrong, Luke Cage:Cape chaser is kinda cool, but a little juvenile for a single dad. I'd like to see him still dating Super heroines, but from a could this chick be good for my daughter perspective.

[slayer2005]

Jessica Jones, I like Jess, I do, I love how she's not the average goody good wife type. However Luke Cage is one of my most favorite characters. I think seeing a single dad Luke, trying to balance being an Avenger and being a father to a very special little girl could be very interesting. Throw in some scenes of Luke Cage and Iron Fist trying to figure out diapers and bottles, it could be good.


Years from now, Jessica Jones will either become Sue Dibny or Jean Loring, depending on how the editors will treat her.

[shaunyc56]

I think it should be Now though. Kill her now in some heroic showdown w/ some of Lukes bad guys trying to get at the baby. Have Luke show up in time to just about finish it, have Jess die in his arms a heroes death....... and Boom..... Powerman and Ironfist:2 Men and a Baby....

[StoneGold]

I would not allow any writer to kill a character he or she did not create. It's a matter of respect, and a way to make sure that writers bring something to the Marvel universe before they take anything away.

You're right. Gerry Conway is such an a-hole.

[StoneGold]

Whoops, I thought somebody told me Way was taking over both books. Guggenheim, WTF mate?



I liked it when that one guy from Law and Order wrote the Deadshot Mini, but wow, Guggenheim and Ramos. Sorry to see Ramos this way.

Ehh, no biggie, I'm liking the Way/Dillon a lot better, their Wolverine is a classic.
Ironically, Way seems to be scaling back the healing factor somewhat in his Wolverine, back to around Claremont/Miller levels. But seriously, if it had just been Logan with all the skin seared off his body, so it's just exposed muscle with maybe a little bone showing, I think fandom in general would have been fine with it. It just pushed things a tad too far.

[Haunt]

Exactly, I also think it would change all the interactions w/ females that Luke has. Don't get me wrong, Luke Cage:Cape chaser is kinda cool, but a little juvenile for a single dad. I'd like to see him still dating Super heroines, but from a could this chick be good for my daughter perspective.


true. i don't even like Luke as a cape chaser but i think he should be a little free-er than married w/ children. and, personally, i don't like Jessica Jones. i'm not sure how Cage could like her. she's bossy and moody. that pretty much sums up that model girlfriend he had in the Powerman/Iron Fist series. i'm all for Luke growing up and moving up in the hero ranks, so having a daughter is fine. but it's depressing that a cool guy like that is married to a succubus (look what it did for Scott Lang).

[Violently Apathetic]

You know, the more I think about it the more I'm charmed by the idea of Luke Cage trying to raise a baby on his own...ARRGH, I have no shame, here I am considering tossing Jessica in the fridge just because I think the idea of Luke Cage and Iron Fist attempting to raise a baby would be funny.......

[Haunt]

You know, the more I think about it the more I'm charmed by the idea of Luke Cage trying to raise a baby on his own...ARRGH, I have no shame, here I am considering tossing Jessica in the fridge just because I think the idea of Luke Cage and Iron Fist attempting to raise a baby would be funny.......


fridge? i was just going to let her rot in the woods.

[Arilou]

You know, the more I think about it the more I'm charmed by the idea of Luke Cage trying to raise a baby on his own...ARRGH, I have no shame, here I am considering tossing Jessica in the fridge just because I think the idea of Luke Cage and Iron Fist attempting to raise a baby would be funny.......

Me too, 'cept that Jessica is too fun a character to kill.

Personally I think they should've done that with Spidey during the entire Clone Saga mess instead.

[Haunt]

Me too, 'cept that Jessica is too fun a character to kill.

Personally I think they should've done that with Spidey during the entire Clone Saga mess instead.

hell yeah she'd be a fun character to kill. they could have her chase Nitro into a helium balloon factory.

[Leebenhouse]

hell yeah she'd be a fun character to kill. they could have her chase Nitro into a helium balloon factory.
Helium factory...?

Hydrogen is the one that blows up...

[Jake Lockley]

I could do without She-Hulk. And Wolverine.

[Haunt]

Helium factory...?

Hydrogen is the one that blows up...


yeah but Helium supposedly causes brain damage now. Nitro doesn't need an accelerant. plus, i want the scream to be nasally.

[Subotai]

Poor Wolverine. He suffers because of his overuse and the lousy writing he's had over the years.

I wouldn't mind losing:

Nick Fury
The Hulk
Johnny Storm
She-Hulk
Cyclops

[NathanielEssex]

Definitely Wolverine. Either that, or make him the way he was in the early part of his X-Men career, where he had trouble fighting the guy in the purple cat costume from the Ani-Men.

[Meta 05]

off the top of my head I wouldn't mind,but i wouldn't wish for them either

Ironman
Jhonny storm
Spiderwomen
Namor
Magneto
Thunderbolts((ALL EXCEPT JOYSTICK))
MONET
MYSTIQUE

[Meta 05]

forgot
CABLE((DIE YOUR A CONSTANT REMINDER OF YOUNGBLOOD TO ME AN WHY I AVOIDED THE 90s))

WOLVERINE((WIMPY FANBOYS WITH DELUSIONS OF BEING AS TOUGH AN COOL AS HIM DRIVE NUTS,THUS LET THE OVER EXPOSURE TO PLEASE HIS CROWD END "PLEASE"))

[joe bloke]

ALL the X-Men, every chuffing one of them. In fact, any character even remotely connected with the whole sorry Marvel mutant mess. It's not big, and it's most certainly not clever.

And Daredevil, too. He's just plain rubbish.

[Leebenhouse]

I'd have equality with mutants, so that the X-men would stop needing to exist, then the characters could appear in other nifty books, like Beast in the Avengers, or in the New Defenders with Angel and Iceman.

Damn mutants and their incomprehendable storylines.

Too bad nobody mentioned Bantam. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!