Spider-Man's new costume

[Clint Barton]

If the costume can generate any look of any of Spidey's costumes EVER....then why did Aunt May have to stitch one up of his classic costumes when he unmasked? Couldn't Peter have just helped the old haint and pressed a button or something making his classic costume appear? Inquiring minds want to know.

[Sean Whitmore]

If the costume can generate any look of any of Spidey's costumes EVER....then why did Aunt May have to stitch one up of his classic costumes when he unmasked? Couldn't Peter have just helped the old haint and pressed a button or something making his classic costume appear? Inquiring minds want to know.


It's just the symbolism of the thing. Peter's already shown he can make the new costume look like the red and blues over in The Thing, but he wanted to wear the 100% authentic Spidey suit.


SEAN

[Conn Seanery]

If the costume can generate any look of any of Spidey's costumes EVER....then why did Aunt May have to stitch one up of his classic costumes when he unmasked? Couldn't Peter have just helped the old haint and pressed a button or something making his classic costume appear? Inquiring minds want to know.
Would it have been as dramatic to will the face part of his uniform away?

[Jack]

Would it have been as dramatic to will the face part of his uniform away?
It would have opened up some plausible deniability, too. If the suit can shapeshift, then how could they be sure that was his real face?

Also, Aunt May did it on her own, so Peter couldn't have saved her any work.

[akumakage]

I beleive that Aunt May making that costume for him was to symbolize her true support for his unmasking. Peter was about to go underground when May walks out saying she spent the whole night making it for him. This was almost the deciding factor in peter going through with it, and thats why he wore that one and not the "iron-spider" costume.

[Dustin]

Could somebody please tell me why though he has a new "iron spidey" costume?

[xtreme680]

Could somebody please tell me why though he has a new "iron spidey" costume?

Mainly to look cool. Tony also designed it so as to complement his new powers after The Other storyline.

[Dustin]

Mainly to look cool. Tony also designed it so as to complement his new powers after The Other storyline.
I can see why Tony made it. It's true, it is just like his own costume.

[Sam T.]

So he could be Iron Man's right hand man!

[Irv]

Could somebody please tell me why though he has a new "iron spidey" costume?
During 'The Other' arc:
When Spiderman died, Tony destroyed all of his constumes sp that MJ and Aunt May wouldn't be comprimised. An old suit was saved, but it was falling apart. Tony made him the new one and added the new features.

[-S-Man-]

It could be another way for Stark to make Pete feel obligated to support him whatever happens i.e. To keep him on the Pro - SHRA. Not to bite the hand that feeds you.

[Bobster777]

It could be another way for Stark to make Pete feel obligated to support him whatever happens i.e. To keep him on the Pro - SHRA. Not to bite the hand that feeds you.
Tony made that suit before he supported the SHRA. It was given to Peter in goodwill. Plus, why would Peter be obligated by that? He is just as good as a super hero with or without the suit.

[doppelganger]

First, I think Tony gave Peter the suit knowing full well times were about to get tough. And don't underestimate Tony's willingness to play on Peters emotions. Tony is a stone cold Machiavellian manipulator. He takes Peter under his wing, gives him, his wife and his aunt a place to live in protected luxury, and now he's just given him his first car (the suit). Suddenly Peter has a father figure, and Tony knows it. And don't think for a second that Tony hasn't installed an emergency shutdown in the Iron Spider in case Peter ever decides to go rogue. You KNOW he has. Because that's Tony Stark.

[Sean Whitmore]

First, I think Tony gave Peter the suit knowing full well times were about to get tough. And don't underestimate Tony's willingness to play on Peters emotions. Tony is a stone cold Machiavellian manipulator. He takes Peter under his wing, gives him, his wife and his aunt a place to live in protected luxury, and now he's just given him his first car (the suit). Suddenly Peter has a father figure, and Tony knows it. And don't think for a second that Tony hasn't installed an emergency shutdown in the Iron Spider in case Peter ever decides to go rogue. You KNOW he has. Because that's Tony Stark.


I think you're being overly tough on Tony (which, I think, most people are since Civil War was announced). Putting May and MJ up in the tower is something he'd do for any fellow Avenger, and I genuinely believe he made Peter his assistant because he came to like him. Besides, this all happened way before CW was announced.

The new suit? Maybe. I can see that as a way of Tony making Peter fly his flag, whether he knows it or not. And you're dead right about Tony installing a shutdown for the costume. Because the one flaw of his I'll definitely admit to is that Tony always believes he's the smartest guy in the room, so he should have the right to run everything his way.


SEAN

[jim1175]

If the costume can generate any look of any of Spidey's costumes EVER....then why did Aunt May have to stitch one up of his classic costumes when he unmasked? Couldn't Peter have just helped the old haint and pressed a button or something making his classic costume appear? Inquiring minds want to know.

It's because he is going to need it when he turns sides & gets rid of the "Iron-Spider" costume.

[-S-Man-]

Spoilers

Remember Tony is a business man so he's most likely to do things that will benefit him more than other.

I (any maybe everyone else) don't mean to be so tough on Tony but we must question his motives for making Pete a suit just like that. Investing his time and effort just in good will, sorry but the world is not so perfect.

In She-Hulk #9 She-Hulk told JJJ that he could sue Pete for selling him picture that made Spidey look good. As we all know Pete's never been one of the richest guys in the Marvel Universe so She-Hulk suggested sue Pete and win the Iron Suit which is worth around $8 million. It also has a hell of lot of technology that has taken Tony many years to develop and in some cases perfect.

The point I'm trying to make is that Tony could simply have given Pete $500 to go get himself the material to sew more than enough suits. But he didn't. He never went to all this trouble for any other of the Averngers, he even evicted Jennifer Walters from the Avengers for have frequent parties and have men sleep over.

[jim1175]

Spoilers

In She-Hulk #9 She-Hulk told JJJ that he could sue Pete for selling him picture that made Spidey look good. As we all know Pete's never been one of the richest guys in the Marvel Universe so She-Hulk suggested sue Pete and win the Iron Suit which is worth around $8 million. It also has a hell of lot of technology that has taken Tony many years to develop and in some cases perfect.

He never went to all this trouble for any other of the Averngers, he even evicted Jennifer Walters from the Avengers for have frequent parties and have men sleep over.

So I guess you figured out Jennifer's motivation for taking the case. I still seems like a frivolous lawsuit to me.... JJJ wanted Spiderman pictures; Peter gave him Spiderman pictures.... If they were fakes, then I could see the suit, but these were exactly what old JJJ paid for. Like I said before is JJJ planning to return the sales dollars to the public that purchased those papers based on the photos Peter took? or is this all just gravy?

[Miss Kitty Fantastico]

So I guess you figured out Jennifer's motivation for taking the case. I still seems like a frivolous lawsuit to me.... JJJ wanted Spiderman pictures; Peter gave him Spiderman pictures.... If they were fakes, then I could see the suit, but these were exactly what old JJJ paid for.
She says that Jonah has a case, in spite of the amnesty built into registration, on the basis that Peter sold the Bugle pictures of John Jameson in the Spidey-Suit. That's different to not admitting that he was the guy in the pictures himself, which simply raises the possibility that the photos were staged, and thus not the 'real life' photos that Parker sold them as. He sold the Bugle pictures of something he knew to be untrue, with the intention of passing them off as true, and that can be proven.

Of course, She-Hulk says in the same issue, to John, that she can keep Jonah's case in courtroom limbo for years, so it seems her motivation in taking it was simply to get Jonah to calm the heck down and stop trying (pointlessly) to kill her. So while there is some basis to the case, it's clearly not so much that Jen - who has a strong sense of justice - regards it as worthwhile.

If you look back to, I believe, She-Hulk vol.1 #11, she admits to Doc Samson that her behaviour in Avengers mention, that led to her being politely booted out, was 'over the top'. I doubt she holds a grudge against Tony for that - certainly not to the extent that she'd drag Spider-Man into it just to get at him by proxy.

[Sean Whitmore]

The point I'm trying to make is that Tony could simply have given Pete $500 to go get himself the material to sew more than enough suits. But he didn't. He never went to all this trouble for any other of the Averngers


What? Sure he did. Over the year he's created rocket jets for Wonder Man, an energy shield for Captain America, armor for Captain America, a bio-suit for Firestar...all while letting complete strangers sleep in his mansion.

Him helping out Peter is SOP.


SEAN

[Sean Whitmore]

She says that Jonah has a case, in spite of the amnesty built into registration, on the basis that Peter sold the Bugle pictures of John Jameson in the Spidey-Suit.


They brought THAT back up?

I get that Slott loves him some continuity, but that was kind of a silly one-off joke from Millar that really doesn't stand up to scrutiny.


I doubt she holds a grudge against Tony for that - certainly not to the extent that she'd drag Spider-Man into it just to get at him by proxy.


Well, she did try to convince someone to sue Captain America in the first issue. ;)


SEAN

[-S-Man-]

What? Sure he did. Over the year he's created rocket jets for Wonder Man, an energy shield for Captain America, armor for Captain America, a bio-suit for Firestar...all while letting complete strangers sleep in his mansion.

Then let me ask you this. In any of those cases that you mention, where Tony helped out other Avenger. Did Tony get anything in return in any shape of form? Think about it...you may have search though issues but I'm sure you'll see Wonder Man, Captain America or even Firestar repay Tony (out of their own pockets) and say "for the time you helped me out".

[Sean Whitmore]

Then let me ask you this. In any of those cases that you mention, where Tony helped out other Avenger. Did Tony get anything in return in any shape of form? Think about it...you may have search though issues but I'm sure you'll see Wonder Man, Captain America or even Firestar repay Tony (out of their own pockets) and say "for the time you helped me out".


You're asking if Wonder Man ever slipped Tony 50 bucks and said, "Thanks for the boot jets, dude"?

Not that I've seen, but hey, I haven't read them all.


SEAN

[-S-Man-]

You're asking if Wonder Man ever slipped Tony 50 bucks and said, "Thanks for the boot jets, dude"?

Not that I've seen, but hey, I haven't read them all.


SEAN

So you can't say that Tony did those things without being paid back...big time.

[Bobster777]

So you can't say that Tony did those things without being paid back...big time.
And you can't say that he was paid back, so, let's just end the argument there since no one has evidence.

[Erebus]

From a metaphorical standpoint, I think the Iron Spidey Suit is suppose to represent Spiderman's decision to side with Iron Man for Civil War. I think, some time in the near future, he's gonna ditch Iron Spidey, go for the original threads, and either go with Captain America's group or help stop the war all together.

[ragnarok_2012]

Much as it pains me to say it, there is a continuity precedent for Tony giving something to a super hero with strings attached.

During the Armor Wars, Steve Rogers was temporarily unable to use the name Captain America. The US government took away his costume, name and shield (this was when the Super Patriot/USAgent became Cap). So he called himself the Captain and needed a new shield. Tony made him an adamantium shield in hopes of bribing him to look the other way as he fought the government, SHIELD and various super villains in order to destroy unpatented Iron Man technology that was stolen from him by Spymaster.

When Steve realized what was happening, he returned the shield and got a vibranium shield from the Black Panther.....and of course the friendship between Steve and Tony was on the rocks for a little while.

[Savagesamurai]

the technology of the Iron-Spidey suit is interesting. Maybe Tony does have an emergency shut off in that thing? that would be interesting. Also what do we think about the fact that Spidey said something to the effect of Tony did not know about my "spidey-sense" and then was questioning what kind of information also goes out from the suit. That was interesting to me...anyone have any takes on that?

[-S-Man-]

Tony must have really gone flat out if he devised some technology that can feel (or know about) Pete's Spider-Sense.

Personally, I don't think he knew about it but built that feature into the suit so that he would know when Pete was in trouble and he could help him out. I think it's shear luck that it works to well. I mean he does have MJ and May to think about now too.

Wait a minute...Pete told Tony about his SS back in Friendly Neighbourhood Spider-Man #4 in The Others saga/ event. Tony went to pat Pete on the should and because Pete's SS have increased from the rebirth he spun around and tripped Tony. It was when they where doing the post rebirth tests.

[Conn Seanery]

Those of us who thought Peter would be wise enough to sweep his suit for Stark trickery are finally seeing a payoff. Sorry Iron Man fans, that fight ain't gonna be over as fast as you thought.

[Jack]

Tony must have really gone flat out if he devised some technology that can feel (or know about) Pete's Spider-Sense.

Personally, I don't think he knew about it but built that feature into the suit so that he would know when Pete was in trouble and he could help him out. I think it's shear luck that it works to well. I mean he does have MJ and May to think about now too.

Wait a minute...Pete told Tony about his SS back in Friendly Neighbourhood Spider-Man #4 in The Others saga/ event. Tony went to pat Pete on the should and because Pete's SS have increased from the rebirth he spun around and tripped Tony. It was when they where doing the post rebirth tests.
Yeah, the spider sense thing is a little messed up.

I can explain it though. Tony knew about the spider-sense (who doesn't?) but Peter never actually told him that it's precognition, yet Tony knew that it was in #534. That can then be extended to explain how he knew - because the sensors in the suit would have consistently been recording threats after Peter had already reacted to them.

It seems to me that the scene might be foreshadowing for a moment when Tony shuts off the suit, but Peter still manages to move, because he went in and manually got rid of the override function, showing that neither of them completely trusted the other.

[Cosmic Book Fan]

Tony Stark is an addict.

One of his addictions is tinkering.
Making the Iron-Spidey suit and seeing it used is basically just another high for Tony.

Taking in MJ and Aunt May is actually a really big deal, Tony has no family, but he's fiercly loyal to the people he does get close to. And Tony has dealt plenty with colateral damage to civilians/friends because of who he is/what he does.

Lastly Tony probably installed a failsafe of some kind, but it doesn't really matter because even with the Iron-Spidey suit, Spider-man is no match for Iron Man.

[Sean Whitmore]

Tony Stark is an addict.

One of his addictions is tinkering.
Making the Iron-Spidey suit and seeing it used is basically just another high for Tony.


Nice analysis. I quite agree. :)


Lastly Tony probably installed a failsafe of some kind, but it doesn't really matter because even with the Iron-Spidey suit, Spider-man is no match for Iron Man.


Didn't Spidey take down Iron Man 2020 pretty handily?


SEAN

[-S-Man-]

Didn't Spidey take down Iron Man 2020 pretty handily?
Doesn't the suit learn and adapt to each opponents fighting style?

[Cosmic Book Fan]

Didn't Spidey take down Iron Man 2020 pretty handily?
SEAN

IM 2020 is not Tony Stark, its his punk cousin/nephew/something Arno, who was an @$$ and never as good as Tony.

[-S-Man-]

So, Spidey's has this new suit. It the following scenario possible:

Using (wearing) the Iron Spidey Suit, Spidey changes it to the classic suit (Red and Blue/ Steve Ditko design) and then he uses his his mechanical waldo arms.

Is it possible for Spidey to use the waldo arm will in classic mode?

[Bobster777]

So, Spidey's has this new suit. It the following scenario possible:

Using (wearing) the Iron Spidey Suit, Spidey changes it to the classic suit (Red and Blue/ Steve Ditko design) and then he uses his his mechanical waldo arms.

Is it possible for Spidey to use the waldo arm will in classic mode?
Well, the Iron Spidey suit can take on the form of any of Spidey's old suits. Even if it looks like the old suit, the arms are still there. So, he should still be able to use them.

[Jeff-E]

Kind of off subject here but, am I the only one who actually likes the IronSpidey look? It makes sense in battle and I actually like the look.

[Bobster777]

Kind of off subject here but, am I the only one who actually likes the IronSpidey look? It makes sense in battle and I actually like the look.
I like it too, but inevitably, I hope Peter goes back to the original. The way I see it is, if you rely too much on technology, your own skills will diminish. I know Peter still uses most of his powers, but having his suit makes things easier for him. Thus, he might get sloppy in using his powers. So, I hope he stops using the Iron Spidey suit in the future (but not because he hates IM).

[Jeff-E]

I like it too, but inevitably, I hope Peter goes back to the original. The way I see it is, if you rely too much on technology, your own skills will diminish. I know Peter still uses most of his powers, but having his suit makes things easier for him. Thus, he might get sloppy in using his powers. So, I hope he stops using the Iron Spidey suit in the future (but not because he hates IM).

I'll meet you half way, I agree he'd begin to get sloppy, with the suit doing some of the work, but I'd love to see him keep it for years to come. Plus as an added bonus you could get stories where he can't use the suit for some reason and has to use his old costumes but his skills have deminished so it kind of brings him back to being rookieish (is that a word?), and gives him more of a challenge tackleing old villians he used to handle with ease.

[-S-Man-]

I really like the Iron Spidey Suit, it's my second favourite beasting the Venom and Ben Reily suits.

I like it too, but inevitably, I hope Peter goes back to the original. The way I see it is, if you rely too much on technology, your own skills will diminish. I know Peter still uses most of his powers, but having his suit makes things easier for him. Thus, he might get sloppy in using his powers. So, I hope he stops using the Iron Spidey suit in the future (but not because he hates IM).
I totally agree with Bobster777...skills are lost because of new technology and Tony might not always be there to make upgrades or repairs to the suit. For example: As it seems inevitable that Spidey will switch sides and take probably take the suit with him (or not) I don't think Pete will be able to go to Tony for repairs.

Plus as an added bonus you could get stories where he can't use the suit for some reason and has to use his old costumes but his skills have deminished so it kind of brings him back to being rookieish (is that a word?), and gives him more of a challenge tackleing old villians he used to handle with ease.

Come to think of it, I would definately like to see Spidey tackle a few old characters like Gobby, Scorpion, lizard and last but not least Doc OcK Hand-to-Hand... well, urm...Warld-to-tentacle :p Eventually I would like to see the Classic suit come back.