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Buried Alien
06-29-2006, 06:38 PM
We've got Monitors. Several of them. One of them even wears Anti-Monitor armor (I didn't know they sold them off the rack; first the Anti-Monitor sported his original one, then Superboy Prime showed up in his, and now a new Monitor wears one as well...just what is so special about this suit anyway?).

They hint that there are more crises ahead. With a whole slew of Monitors now on deck, what could lie ahead?

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Sharcque
06-29-2006, 09:12 PM
Tell me about "The Monitor". I know nothing about him.

Mon-el
06-29-2006, 09:19 PM
Tell me about "The Monitor". I know nothing about him.

Try Here


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monitor_%28comics%29

Sheldon
06-29-2006, 09:20 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monitor_%28comics%29

edit dammit beat me to it!

Jack Zodiac
06-29-2006, 09:30 PM
I just got done rebutting about how Wikipedia's not the end-all be-all of knowledge after someone posted a ridiculously lax entry on Sun-Eaters on another board. For the most part, though, when you're know what you're looking for, you can find it on Wiki. Usually.

Short version, though- if you don't wanna' read all of that- is that The Monitor was a being that was born at the Universe's creation (presumably Earth-1's universe's creation), while his evil brother, the Anti-Monitor, was born at the exact same moment in the Anti-Matter universe. They, originally, existed as two entities who had no counterpart but each other in every universe in the multiverse.

The Anti-Monitor felt it his need to destory the multiverse, while The Monitor felt it his need to preserve it. The Anti-Monitor nearly succeeded, in the Crisis on Infinite Earths, but was stopped before the last universe was destroyed. This was supposed to be the only universe left in DC comics, but that obviously didn't last long. In the end, they both died, and the multiverse was left in the hands of its heroes.

Recently, at the end of the Brave New World eighty page one-shot, we see that there are at least five Monitors in the New Earth universe left over from the last Crisis. Like Uatu and the Watchers, they observe the heroes of our universe. Super lame idea, and it totally cheapens any emotional attachments one might have made with the original Monitor during the original Crisis. I was greatly pissed off.
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Jack Zodiac
06-29-2006, 09:38 PM
Worst idea since putting Bruce Jones on Nightwing. :mad:
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Babylon23
06-29-2006, 10:00 PM
I just assumed that there was one for each of the old Earths that survived CoIE. Kind of flies in the face of everything we found out in Crisis. I don't really know what to make of it.

Justin D.
06-29-2006, 10:00 PM
I just got done rebutting about how Wikipedia's not the end-all be-all of knowledge after someone posted a ridiculously lax entry on Sun-Eaters on another board. For the most part, though, when you're know what you're looking for, you can find it on Wiki. Usually.

Short version, though- if you don't wanna' read all of that- is that The Monitor was a being that was born at the Universe's creation (presumably Earth-1's universe's creation), while his evil brother, the Anti-Monitor, was born at the exact same moment in the Anti-Matter universe. They, originally, existed as two entities who had no counterpart but each other in every universe in the multiverse.

The Anti-Monitor felt it his need to destory the multiverse, while The Monitor felt it his need to preserve it. The Anti-Monitor nearly succeeded, in the Crisis on Infinite Earths, but was stopped before the last universe was destroyed. This was supposed to be the only universe left in DC comics, but that obviously didn't last long. In the end, they both died, and the multiverse was left in the hands of its heroes.

Recently, at the end of the Brave New World eighty page one-shot, we see that there are at least five Monitors in the New Earth universe left over from the last Crisis. Like Uatu and the Watchers, they observe the heroes of our universe. Super lame idea, and it totally cheapens any emotional attachments one might have made with the original Monitor during the original Crisis. I was greatly pissed off.

People had an emotional attachment to Monitor?

Jack Zodiac
06-29-2006, 10:12 PM
See, I don't get that. When he was first introduced, he's was a stranger, and apparently a villain, until Crisis fleshed him out. He became a father figure to Harbinger and Alex, he cared about all life, and then he died. They built his character up enough for me to care about him, and then killed him to evoke sadness.

This? It cheapens the idea of The Monitor and Anti-Monitor's relationship, and makes his death yet another comic book joke, like Bucky and Jason Todd are now.
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Buried Alien
06-29-2006, 10:21 PM
People had an emotional attachment to Monitor?

He was in four issues of COIE (not counting flashbacks, etc.) and had sporadic, shadowy appearances in assorted DC Comics between 1982 and 1985. Not exactly a character on the level of the Silver Age Supergirl or Silver Age Flash in terms of fan attachment to characters.

I'm *really* curious about the one wearing Anti-Monitor garb, however.

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Jack Zodiac
06-29-2006, 10:29 PM
I think DC should've changed their names. The Gawkers has a nice ring to it.
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Buried Alien
06-29-2006, 10:31 PM
We jest and we speculate, but we don't *really* know what these Monitors are up to yet. Yes, they monitor; that's definitely part of their gig, but I get the feelling that they do much more than that.

And, forebodingly, we're not sure which side they're on...or what they're capable of.

And yet another curiosity is where they came from and how they're related to the original.

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Jack Zodiac
06-29-2006, 10:38 PM
Well, The Monitor had giant sideburns, but no other facial hair. So, I think the ones with the goatees... they're probably evil.

Seriously though, the narrating Monitor talked about how important this Earth was, since it is the only remaining universe now, and that they must be vigilant for the next crisis, whatever it is. So, they sound benevolent. I only wonder what their function will be. To merely watch and take no part in the events to come, or to orchestrate them. Personally, it doesn't matter either way to me. The idea of more Monitors functioning like the Watchers just doesn't appeal to me. One great writer would have to do some incredible explaining in order to make them more imaginative.
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Buried Alien
06-29-2006, 10:43 PM
Seriously though, the narrating Monitor talked about how important this Earth was, since it is the only remaining universe now, and that they must be vigilant for the next crisis, whatever it is.

I would've thought that was something that the Guardians of the Universe were supposed to do...or the Quintessence. How many watchdog groups does the DCU need (especially since they usually seem to notice things going awry too late to do anything about them)?


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Jack Zodiac
06-29-2006, 10:56 PM
Is the Quintessence still kickin'? Ganthet's probably busy with the new Corps, Stranger's helpin' out Shadowpact these days, Shazam's dead, and I have no idea what's up with the Old New Gods.

Also, I think the Guardians are too busy being jerkoffs to keep an eye on the Universe. I mean, hell, they saw this past Crisis comin' a mile away and didn't seem to wanna' do squat to stop it. Now they're getting higher and mightier than they have before and jerking their new recruits and vets around.

Like I said, it'll take a great story to make these Monitors feel different than Marvel's Watchers.
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Babylon23
06-29-2006, 11:49 PM
Whatever crisis those Monitors are monitoring, I hope it doesn't rear it's ugly head any time soon. I'm all crossovered out after Countdown/IC/House of M/Annihilation/Civil War. I'd prefer that DC didn't follow the "1-2 epic crossovers every 6 months" theory that Marvel is working on at the moment. They've just re-established their universe, and I'd like things to settle down for a while before they go crossover crazy again.

Paragon
06-30-2006, 03:54 AM
So we have multiple monitors, and another martian, and booster is behaving out of character, to the extant that some think he may be a different one.

These could all be effects of the new re-folded earth.

Sean Walsh
06-30-2006, 07:33 AM
Worst idea since putting Bruce Jones on Nightwing. :mad:

But is it worse than making Dick Grayson a philandering @$$hole or a bit better?

jade_nova
06-30-2006, 09:15 AM
It is intersting to note that there was one Monitor when there was numerous Earths now there is only one Earth and five Monitors. I think the Monitor with the tubes on his outfit is the Earth-3 Monitor.

Patient Boy
06-30-2006, 09:54 AM
So the Monitor has essentially become like the Watchers?

Jack Zodiac
06-30-2006, 10:19 AM
But is it worse than making Dick Grayson a philandering @$$hole or a bit better?

Better. But only a bit.

So the Monitor has essentially become like the Watchers?

I'm tellin' ya', guys- The Gawkers. They're way cooler than The Watchers.
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Count Vertigo
06-30-2006, 06:59 PM
That surprised the hell out of me, seeing all those monitors. Especially the anti-monitor there in the center. I wonder what's next

Sharcque
07-02-2006, 02:35 AM
That surprised the hell out of me, seeing all those monitors. Especially the anti-monitor there in the center. I wonder what's next
That was the Anti-Monitor?

Jack Zodiac
07-02-2006, 02:43 AM
Looked like the Anti-Monitor, just like the other four looked like different versions of the Monitor. I'm sure it'll all be explained in time.

In time for the next "universe-shattering" crossover. :p
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Sean Walsh
07-02-2006, 05:30 AM
That surprised the hell out of me, seeing all those monitors. Especially the anti-monitor there in the center. I wonder what's next

For all we know, it's just a Monitor with an Anti-Monitor costume. His back was turned to us, remember, so we never saw his face to know it was the A-M....

mrc1214
07-02-2006, 10:07 AM
I guess we can look foward to another Crisis type event. If so i enjoyed Infinite Crisis but i dont need one every year.

bfrank
07-03-2006, 09:39 AM
how many times has the DCU been rebooted since the original crisis?

DMike
07-03-2006, 03:42 PM
If IC counts as an actual reboot, twice. If not, then just the Zero Hour reboot, and even that one's pretty minor.

Lex
07-03-2006, 11:14 PM
I guess we can look foward to another Crisis type event. If so i enjoyed Infinite Crisis but i dont need one every year.Didio has said they are holding off on new crossovers for a year or so. They've been hinting at some big plans for 2008, so this may be set-up for that.

bfrank
07-04-2006, 10:38 AM
IIRC, there were 5 monitor's in the book....my theory is:

original monitor. anti monitor. second monitor (post crisis - crisis). third monitor (post zero hour crisis). fourth monitor (post IC crisis).

bfrank
07-04-2006, 10:39 AM
Didio has said they are holding off on new crossovers for a year or so. They've been hinting at some big plans for 2008, so this may be set-up for that.
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