Exiles # 83 -- minor spoilers

[Sandy Hausler]

I liked this book. Now that the Proteus story has reached a temporary conclusion, the Exiles have some downtime to take care of old business -- sending back the bodies of their prior members and members of Weapon X to their own Earths as well as sending those who did not die, but were withdrawn from service because of injuries.

The story ends with
Blink taking Mimic back to the x-Men of his Earth. Next issue is the funeral

Though my favorite part was
Thunderbird is still with us and may be patched up at some point. Soon I hope.

And for action, the Exiles fight an Iromman who does not want to go home.

Commments, folks?

Sandy Hausler

[fishtaco]

I stopped reading at issue #79 for a few reasons (none of them involve bad quality). What is the current status of Longshot?

[Sandy Hausler]

I stopped reading at issue #79 for a few reasons (none of them involve bad quality). What is the current status of Longshot?

He's still there (much to Ironman's regret).<g>

Sandy Hausler

[The Lucky One]

I stopped reading at issue #79 for a few reasons (none of them involve bad quality). What is the current status of Longshot?

He's still there, he just hasn't done much of anything since the 2099 world. Every world has the same thing- he throws his spikes at Proteus, Proteus blocks or dodges them, and Longshot gets smacked down like a chump. his luck power for some reason not protecting him. I'm disappointed, to be honest... Bedard was talking about how he was looking forward to really exploring the character, and maybe he WAS planning to do that after World Tour, but now his time is limited, and where does that leave Longshot?

-D

[The Fury]

Commments, folks?

Sandy Hausler
I thought it was a good issue.

I don't know about anyone else but I liked this book becuase of the rotating cast. Bedard has only killed 2 characters since he came on, before that there were loads of deaths. (Okay Austen mostly did them but still). So I couldn't care less about Blink and her grief about Mimic.


I did notice though, there were 2 character missing from being sent home for funerals. (1) Sunfire (2) SheHulk from the Weapon X team. (The one that was alive just in another dimension.

[Beast]

I did notice though, there were 2 character missing from being sent home for funerals. (1) Sunfire (2) SheHulk from the Weapon X team. (The one that was alive just in another dimension.
She-Hulk got shipped back home after she killed Deadpool quite a number of issues ago.

[fishtaco]

He's still there (much to Ironman's regret).<g>

Sandy HauslerAs an Exile, you mean? Has his memory issues been addressed yet?

[Sandy Hausler]

He's still there, he just hasn't done much of anything since the 2099 world. Every world has the same thing- he throws his spikes at Proteus, Proteus blocks or dodges them, and Longshot gets smacked down like a chump. his luck power for some reason not protecting him. I'm disappointed, to be honest... Bedard was talking about how he was looking forward to really exploring the character, and maybe he WAS planning to do that after World Tour, but now his time is limited, and where does that leave Longshot?

-D

Chill, man. He put a blade through Ironman's eye slit in this issue.

[Sandy Hausler]

I thought it was a good issue.

I don't know about anyone else but I liked this book becuase of the rotating cast. Bedard has only killed 2 characters since he came on, before that there were loads of deaths. (Okay Austen mostly did them but still). So I couldn't care less about Blink and her grief about Mimic.


I did notice though, there were 2 character missing from being sent home for funerals. (1) Sunfire (2) SheHulk from the Weapon X team. (The one that was alive just in another dimension.

Sunfire was buried on the Douglock world so that she could be near her lover, Mary Jane Watson (Spider Woman).

She-Hulk was sent back to her world when the Exiles first came to the Crystal Palace. And she killed Deadpool before she left. For real this time (I think.)

Sandy Hausler

[Beast]

As an Exile, you mean? Has his memory issues been addressed yet?
It got addressed when he was recruited, he was mind wiped by Mojo.

[The Fury]

Never mind

[The Fury]

Sunfire was buried on the Douglock world so that she could be near her lover, Mary Jane Watson (Spider Woman).

She-Hulk was sent back to her world when the Exiles first came to the Crystal Palace. And she killed Deadpool before she left. For real this time (I think.)

Sandy Hausler
Wow...I must have totally blanked out in that story...seriosuly.

[Beast]

..what?

No, She-Hulk got sucked into another dimension in the "With an Iron Fist" story back arround issue #24 I think. She was replaced with Colossus.

Was she revived in that story where he regened not long ago?
Yeah, when she got sucked into another dimension the bugs snagged her and stuck her in the crystal palace wall. Just after the Exiles defeated Hyperion and they were trying to find a means of healing Mimic from his injuries, the Dr. Strange they recruited to help Calvin defrosted Deadpool from the crystal palace wall. Deadpool killed him and then grabbed Heather Hudson and made her help defrost his friends. She-Hulk was the first one defrosted, and Beak released Mimic from the wall so he could copy Deadpool's powerset and recover. She-Hulk ended up backstabbing Deadpool and splattered him to bits, and then was sent home by the Exiles afterwards.

[xmanson]

Wow...I must have totally blanked out in that story...seriosuly.


Yeah... when did that happen? I completely forgot about it too.

And which team was Logan part of?

[Beast]

Yeah... when did that happen? I completely forgot about it too.

And which team was Logan part of?
Weapon X.

Wolverine (Earth #172). James "Logan" Howlett - Founding member. First seen in Exiles #62. He was killed off panel before Exiles #5 and confirmed dead in Exiles #68. He wasn't immediately replaced but after some mission by the second wave of recruits (Hulk I, Storm and Daredevil). Sent home in Exiles #83. Was somehow romantically involved with Mariko in his world.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exiles_(comics)

[Faded]

Never mind


:eek: You're naked without your purple!

Oh and I intended to repick up this issue after World Tour, but too many comics this week I couldn't. From what I peeked, the (fill-in?) artist was nice.

Definitely next issue....I promise to pick it up! :D (If I go to the shop that is and don't forget and uh...have the money. :D)

[The Lucky One]

Chill, man. He put a blade through Ironman's eye slit in this issue.

Hey, that WAS cool... I'll be the first to say it. When he's brainwashed into being ruthless, Longshot is the wroooong mofo to mess with. It's just that cool scenes are one thing, actual character exploration and growth another. This was a good issue, and it's what it should have been -- they needed a couple of issues to come down after the World Tour -- but with Bedard's departure, it might be back into limbo for Longshot.

And that would suck.

-D

[Beast]

Hey, that WAS cool... I'll be the first to say it. When he's brainwashed into being ruthless, Longshot is the wroooong mofo to mess with. It's just that cool scenes are one thing, actual character exploration and growth another. This was a good issue, and it's what it should have been -- they needed a couple of issues to come down after the World Tour -- but with Bedard's departure, it might be back into limbo for Longshot.

And that would suck.

-D
Doubtful. Claremont's planning an eventual Dazzler/Longshot reunion at some point during a New Excalibur/Exiles crossover. So Longshot isn't headed to limbo anytime soon. :)

[The Lucky One]

Doubtful. Claremont's planning an eventual Dazzler/Longshot reunion at some point during a New Excalibur/Exiles crossover. So Longshot isn't headed to limbo anytime soon. :)

He... he is?

Where did you come by this info?

*torn between desire to have Longshot continue in Exiles and loathing for Longshot with anyone but Rogue or Ricochet Rita*

-D

[Volk1]

Move on Blink! You never needed Mimic! I like these "downtime" issues, but I wish Longshot was getting more development.



And what issue is to be Psylocke's first apperance?

[Beast]

He... he is?

Where did you come by this info?

*torn between desire to have Longshot continue in Exiles and loathing for Longshot with anyone but Rogue or Ricochet Rita*
It was either Claremont or Mike Marts who several months ago talked about an eventual crossover.
And what issue is to be Psylocke's first apperance?
Issue #90 should be, as that will be Claremont's first issue.

[Volk1]

Issue #90 should be, as that will be Claremont's first issue.

Wha! So no Psylocke for 7 months?!:eek:

Or will the upcoming Exiles issues up to #90 be shipped out faster? I need me some Betsy-goodness from time-to-time.........

[kel25]

I cant wait until Nov 1st because World Tour Book II hits stores and I only get TPBs.

So Mimic is official dead? To bad he was my second favorite character and with multiple healing factors I was hoping to see him pull through. At the same time the fact that team members die/leave is one of the biggest draws to the title.

I have to admit that I’m looking forward to Psylocke becoming a member. I’ve never really read much of her before but I liked her character and I found the psyblade to be an interesting weapon. I wonder who she will replace? Keeping fingers crossed that she wont be from 616. The normal universe has played a big enough role and I’d rather they don’t recruit or visit it for a while.

I wouldn’t mind seeing Thunderbird come back but I think he would decline to help and head to 616 to be with Nocturne.

I’m curious as to what the team will be after the Wolverine arc. I really like the idea of Longshot and Sipder-Man 2099 being on the team so hopefully they’ll stick around for a while.

So if you could add characters to the team who would they be?

[Beast]

I have to admit that I’m looking forward to Psylocke becoming a member. I’ve never really read much of her before but I liked her character and I found the psyblade to be an interesting weapon. I wonder who she will replace? Keeping fingers crossed that she wont be from 616. The normal universe has played a big enough role and I’d rather they don’t recruit or visit it for a while.
It is the 616 Psylocke. She got grabbed from the latest issue of New Excalibur (#8) and has already been confirmed as being the new team member coming on board with Claremont's arrival as the new writer. It looks like the Shadow King may be the new 'Big Bad' for Exiles, and that Wanda's 'No More Mutants' woogie caused cracks to ripple out from the 616 reality and effect the Multiverse. :)

[kel25]

Oh well so she’ll be from the 616 I’m still looking forward to it.

I prefer seeing characters like Spider Carnage. The ones that are a characters you know yet they are different enough to be a new and unique.

[Beast]

Oh well so she’ll be from the 616 I’m still looking forward to it.

I prefer seeing characters like Spider Carnage. The ones that are a characters you know yet they are different enough to be a new and unique.
Yeah, but a well known 616 character like Psylocke who still has a lot of story to tell, will help keep Exiles alive. Since she has a lot of fans, that will help maybe get the numbers up on the book.

[Sandy Hausler]

Doubtful. Claremont's planning an eventual Dazzler/Longshot reunion at some point during a New Excalibur/Exiles crossover. So Longshot isn't headed to limbo anytime soon. :)

Yuck. The best X-book (Exiles) being crossed with the worst X-book (Excalibur). That I could live without.

Sandy Hausler

[Sandy Hausler]

Wha! So no Psylocke for 7 months?!:eek:

Or will the upcoming Exiles issues up to #90 be shipped out faster? I need me some Betsy-goodness from time-to-time.........

As for me, the fewer 616 characters in Exiles, the better. I'd have no problem with an other world version of Psylocke though.

Sandy Hausler

[Sandy Hausler]

Yeah, but a well known 616 character like Psylocke who still has a lot of story to tell, will help keep Exiles alive. Since she has a lot of fans, that will help maybe get the numbers up on the book.

Uh, she's not Wolverine. I doubt her inclusion in the book will do anything for sales. Are sales that bad that the inclusion of Psylocke is seen as a stunt to boost them?

Sandy Hausler

[Jack]

Yuck. The best X-book (Exiles) being crossed with the worst X-book (Excalibur). That I could live without.

Sandy Hausler
X-Factor crossed with X-Men? :confused:

[Sandy Hausler]

X-Factor crossed with X-Men? :confused:

X-Factor isn't very good. (Just dropped it.)
I can't keep track to the various X-Men books, but none is as wretched as Excalibur (in my opinon, of course).

Sandy Hausler

[The Lucky One]

X-Factor isn't very good. (Just dropped it.)

Wow, you may be the first person I've heard say that. Did you read the latest issue?

-D

[Jack]

X-Factor isn't very good. (Just dropped it.)
I can't keep track to the various X-Men books, but none is as wretched as Excalibur (in my opinon, of course).

Sandy Hausler
I must beg to differ.
Wow, you may be the first person I've heard say that. Did you read the latest issue?Yeah.. I've heard people say a particular issue wasn't good, but not the whole series! Or, equally plausible, I did hear it before, but my mind rejected it as being impossible.

[Sandy Hausler]

Wow, you may be the first person I've heard say that. Did you read the latest issue?

-D

I just dropped it. If you're speaking of the issue that came out yesterday, then the answer is no.

Sandy Hausler

[Sandy Hausler]

I must beg to differ..

You're welcome to do that. I don't purport to be providing anything than my own opinion. BTW, I can't believe I'm the only person who doesn't like X-Factor. There was a thread last month with people saying that they didn't like Watchman.<g>

Sandy Hausler

[Sean Walsh]

Wha! So no Psylocke for 7 months?!:eek:

Or will the upcoming Exiles issues up to #90 be shipped out faster? I need me some Betsy-goodness from time-to-time.........

Well, the plan was for her to be in #84 next month, as that would've been Claremont's first EXILES issue.

But health issues have forced him off all his books for the time being - as a result, Tony Bedard gets to play with EXILES for a while longer (which I'm happy about). However, Psylocke disappeared in NEW EXCALIBUR on schedule it seems, hence this awkward and unintentional gap in her appearance schedule...

[Sean Walsh]

Though my favorite part was
Thunderbird is still with us and may be patched up at some point. Soon I hope.

Since Tony Bedard now has some extra issues to do (since Claremont's not starting with #84 as was the original plan before his health problems) I understand T-Bird will be dealt in some manner over the next few months (as Tony said over at his forums here at CBR).

[Beast]

Exiles #89 will feature T-Bird, TB said so in an interview with Wizard. :)

[Arilou]

Will Blink's little visit be continued for the next ish? I'd love to spend an issue in Mimicworld.

[Sandy Hausler]

Will Blink's little visit be continued for the next ish? I'd love to spend an issue in Mimicworld.

I believe next issue is the funeral for Mimic. Remember, he was a well-loved hero on his Earth.

Sandy Hausler

[Beast]

I believe next issue is the funeral for Mimic. Remember, he was a well-loved hero on his Earth.

Sandy Hausler
It's both the funeral for Mimic, and Heather's reunion with her husband in her reality.

[fishtaco]

Doubtful. Claremont's planning an eventual Dazzler/Longshot reunion at some point during a New Excalibur/Exiles crossover. So Longshot isn't headed to limbo anytime soon. :)Where is this coming from? I asked Claremont about Longshot once, and he said that Longshot is Ann's creation and he would never write him again without her expressed permission. Given the fact that they don't keep in touch (to my knowledge), one shouldn't get his/her hopes up of seeing Longshot in Chris's upcoming run...

But we can always cross our fingers ;)

[Dizzy D]

It's both the funeral for Mimic, and Heather's reunion with her husband in her reality.

Any reason why they haven't picked up Nocturne yet to drop her off back home?

[Beast]

Any reason why they haven't picked up Nocturne yet to drop her off back home?
Because she has a purpose to fulfill in the 616 reality.

[Dizzy D]

Because she has a purpose to fulfill in the 616 reality.

One that was stated by the oh-so-thrustworthy Timebroker? Or one stated since then?

[Callisto]

Uh, she's not Wolverine. I doubt her inclusion in the book will do anything for sales. Are sales that bad that the inclusion of Psylocke is seen as a stunt to boost them?

Sandy Hausler



and what? any established character with a fanbase coming on to a book with a small readership/sales will give it atleast some form of a boost in readership/sales.

[Callisto]

One that was stated by the oh-so-thrustworthy Timebroker? Or one stated since then?

i noticed that aswell. blink and nocturne were portrayed as being quite close i found it quite odd that blink would take care of everyone else before she would go about finding why nocturne was shunted off in the 616 realm.

[Beast]

and what? any established character with a fanbase coming on to a book with a small readership/sales will give it atleast some form of a boost in readership/sales.
Hell, Bedard added Beak... who was a fairly popular character from Morrison's run. So it's hardly something new. And for god sake, the book was created to cater to fans of AOA, bringing in Blink and a very AOAish Morph. And then there was the addition of the AOA Holocaust and AOA Sabretooth. :p

[Sandy Hausler]

and what? any established character with a fanbase coming on to a book with a small readership/sales will give it atleast some form of a boost in readership/sales.


Yeah, but Psylocke? Come on.

Sandy Hausler

[Sandy Hausler]

Hell, Bedard added Beak... who was a fairly popular character from Morrison's run. So it's hardly something new. And for god sake, the book was created to cater to fans of AOA, bringing in Blink and a very AOAish Morph. And then there was the addition of the AOA Holocaust and AOA Sabretooth. :p

I'm sure the fans came flocking when Holocaust joined the team.

Sandy Hausler

[Sean Walsh]

Yeah, but Psylocke? Come on.

Claremont likes the character (which is why he killed her and brought her back and kinda killed her again :p) - I assumed that was the reason she was heading the Exiles way..

[Jack]

Hell, Bedard added Beak... who was a fairly popular character from Morrison's run. So it's hardly something new. And for god sake, the book was created to cater to fans of AOA, bringing in Blink and a very AOAish Morph. And then there was the addition of the AOA Holocaust and AOA Sabretooth. :p
Don't forget that one of the original characters was an AOAish son of Rogue and Magneto, even if he didn't last long.

[Sandy Hausler]

Claremont likes the character (which is why he killed her and brought her back and kinda killed her again :p) - I assumed that was the reason she was heading the Exiles way..

I understand that, but someone indicated that she might have been brought aboard to increase sales. I have no problem with Psylocke (though I would prefer non-616 characters to be in Exiles); I was not questioning whether her presence in the group would increase sales appreciably.

Sandy Hausler

[Callisto]

Yeah, but Psylocke? Come on.

Sandy Hausler

what about her? she is popular the no where near wolverine status. but still she has appeared in countless x-men video games and the uncanny letter pages were constantly bombared with people asking for her return so she clearly has fans.

[kel25]

I don’t think Psylocke jumping on the team will make any big change to sales but over all I’m glad to see her added.

I have to admit that I would like some story with Nocturne and her choosing to stay in 616 for now. The only reason she is in 616 is because one of the writers wanted to use her

[Ultimate Scorpion]

Hey guys ... question... We all saw Morph pump up to take on Proteus or was it the other guy, any way. My question is, when he pumps up like that does his strength level increase? I mean why would he do that if he didnt think he could actually takem on? And if he does take on strength what is his limit? Just a question thanks.

[Sean Walsh]

I have no problem with Psylocke (though I would prefer non-616 characters to be in Exiles)

I'd like to see 616 characters from other times maybe, but EXILES takes place in a set timeframe - and that's probably a good thing, as I'm sure the concept would've been all freaked up by now if they could travel alongtime the timescape as well as across space and universes.

It's unfortunate, though, that the first and last time EXILES met up with the 616 Marvel Universe was during the Chuck Austen run and crossed over with a very awful Chuck Austen UXM story... *shudder* If anything, this Psylocke inclusion would be a step up. ;) :p

[Beast]

I'd like to see 616 characters from other times maybe, but EXILES takes place in a set timeframe - and that's probably a good thing, as I'm sure the concept would've been all freaked up by now if they could travel alongtime the timescape as well as across space and universes.

It's unfortunate, though, that the first and last time EXILES met up with the 616 Marvel Universe was during the Chuck Austen run and crossed over with a very awful Chuck Austen UXM story... *shudder* If anything, this Psylocke inclusion would be a step up. ;) :p
No, the last time that Exiles met up with the 616 Universe was when Tony Bedard came on board and he dropped off T.J. and picked up Beak. And then when they dropped in when the 616 Universe was altered by Scarlet Witch into the HoM. And well, the Heroes Reborn Earth is in the 616 as well, just on the other side of the sun. :D

[Sean Walsh]

No, the last time that Exiles met up with the 616 Universe was when Tony Bedard came on board and he dropped off T.J. and picked up Beak. And then when they dropped in when the 616 Universe was altered by Scarlet Witch into the HoM. And well, the Heroes Reborn Earth is in the 616 as well, just on the other side of the sun. :D

Huh. You'd think I'd remember all that. ;) :p

[Beast]

Huh. You'd think I'd remember all that. ;) :p
Yeah, no clue why you immediatly thought of Chuck Austen's run. It must be scarred on your psyche. :D

[Callisto]

Hey guys ... question... We all saw Morph pump up to take on Proteus or was it the other guy, any way. My question is, when he pumps up like that does his strength level increase? I mean why would he do that if he didnt think he could actually takem on? And if he does take on strength what is his limit? Just a question thanks.

i don't think anyone really knows but i think its safe to assume his strength level does increase but as for how much its unknown.

[Sandy Hausler]

what about her? she is popular the no where near wolverine status. but still she has appeared in countless x-men video games and the uncanny letter pages were constantly bombared with people asking for her return so she clearly has fans.

She's a mid-level X-Men member. Yeah, she has fans; so did Maggot (not that I'm comparing the two; I like Psylocke better than him.) All I'm saying is that she's not going to have a major effect on sales. Of course, I could be wrong. So let's see.

BTW, I should not be seen as anti-Psylocke. I don't think any X-Man (with the possible exception of Wolverine) joining the team will have much of an effect. The book has to thrive based on its stories and art. I hope it will because I've loved the book since it began.

Sandy Hausler