View Full Version : 52 #8 Spoilers (Who is Supernova?)
Squashua
06-28-2006, 11:27 AM
I know who Supernova is.
Three words for you, kids...
Alley Kat Abra.
Just check out that mystic forehead thingey.
Moshikal
06-28-2006, 11:44 AM
Wow...
I have no idea who that is...
algertman
06-28-2006, 11:55 AM
NO WAY!
but it would be damn funny if it was
LordEd1976
06-28-2006, 01:23 PM
Wow...
I have no idea who that is...
Allow me to answer that one.
She's a magic user who's a member of Captain Carrot's Zoo Crew.
Moshikal
06-28-2006, 01:29 PM
Allow me to answer that one.
She's a magic user who's a member of Captain Carrot's Zoo Crew.
So she is related to Captain Carrot than... I realy hope they know what they're doing.
Squashua
06-28-2006, 01:44 PM
Hey, if they can resurrect Egg-Fu, they can redeem the kitty from her Teen Titans appearance. And there's an easier and quicker way to find out who someone is; it's called Google... or Wikipedia.
LordEd1976
06-28-2006, 06:42 PM
Hey, if they can resurrect Egg-Fu, they can redeem the kitty from her Teen Titans appearance. And there's an easier and quicker way to find out who someone is; it's called Google... or Wikipedia.
Going to google or wikipedia is easier than me telling them if I know the answer?
Gee thanks.
Who is Supernova?
Rip Hunter.
heystacy
06-28-2006, 09:11 PM
I know who Supernova is.
Three words for you, kids...
Alley Kat Abra.
Just check out that mystic forehead thingey.
Edit: ARGH! 52 #8, not 53! Admins, feel free to edit the thread topic appropriately!
That was priceless in its humor. :evilsmile
Kyle Richmond III
06-28-2006, 10:58 PM
I think its Booster Gold.
Discuss please
Jack Zodiac
06-28-2006, 11:24 PM
Unless he stole a bunch of new junk the last time he went to the future, I doubt it.
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Jack Zodiac
06-28-2006, 11:33 PM
Who is Supernova?
Rip Hunter.
Could explain both why he's suddenly disappeared, and why he's taking over Booster's territory.
Great issue. I'm glad they're focusing on John and Natasha and his new powers, and I can't wait to see John flip out on Lex and screw him over good for everything he's done (which we all know is coming, considering what's gone on with him OYL).
Booster looks like a giant schmuck, which sucks. I love him, and after Countdown, I was really hoping he'd level out and become a real hero, a noble fella', if for anyone's sake for his dead best friend's. Nope! Giant asshole. I'll be pissed when he dies, but really not surprised.
Also, Ralph completely pushes Ollie in the right direction this issue. And he, apparently, kicked the gingold extract. Does that mean his "super nose wiggle" powers aren't working? 'Cause he's taking forever to crack this Cult of Conner case. Maybe that's what Hunter meant by "Why won't he smell it?" on his crazy scientist chalkboard.
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Rip Hunter, as I suggested a while ago (before the whole lab scene). He fits the evidence we have.
Nick Kal
06-29-2006, 12:22 AM
Superman... or like... Booster Gold.
Did Cassie just tell the cult Superboy's name, or did they already know?
Jack Zodiac
06-29-2006, 01:21 AM
I don't know if they only know his first name, or his surrogate family name as well. They have statues for him in Metropolis. If the general public knew he was a Kent, I'm sure someone would connect the whopping two dots that lead to Clark being Superman.
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Well, I was just referring to his first name. You'd think a psuedo-Kryptonian cult would call him Kon-El, though.
Always thought that was a much better name.
Jack Zodiac
06-29-2006, 01:35 AM
I always liked it better simply because it's a jumbled "Klone". :p
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SlightlyMad
06-29-2006, 05:57 AM
I think Supernova is an older Booster, or Booster's son further down the timeline than the current which is why he doesn't know who it is is so annoyed by him.
Also, I have a strong feeling that Steel's story, The Quetion & Renee's investigation and the missing mad scientists all ie together (I also hope the writer don't forget that Steel & Q know each other [they teamed up in Steel #38]).
Squashua
06-29-2006, 06:24 AM
Going to google or wikipedia is easier than me telling them if I know the answer?
No, it's shows that some effort has been put in before taking the easy way out and asking a forum. Standard RTFM procedure, but typical interweb initial query.
Of course, I should have been supportive by responding "Want to know who AKA is? Check Google (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22alley+kat+abra%22&btnG=Google+Search) or Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alley-Kat-Abra)" and provided the appropriate links.
Rich L
06-29-2006, 08:01 AM
EDIT: Never mind, I was just being snarky to Squashua.
Squashua
06-29-2006, 08:43 AM
EDIT: Never mind, I was just being snarky to Squashua.
And I get to miss out? :confused: :( :( :(
ScottDMSimmons
06-29-2006, 08:50 AM
I have a guess that isn't a feline...
Ray Palmer, AKA the Silver Age Atom. I could see Palmer's dwarf star powers enabling him to do alot of things Supernova could do. Plus, the hood and its little design reminds me abit of Atom.
Scott
TommyV
06-29-2006, 09:49 AM
I have a guess that isn't a feline...
Ray Palmer, AKA the Silver Age Atom. I could see Palmer's dwarf star powers enabling him to do alot of things Supernova could do. Plus, the hood and its little design reminds me abit of Atom.
Scott
We can only hope. I think that speculation is right on!
davids
06-29-2006, 12:17 PM
A fella can hope cain't he. Beside with the stupis recon punch no one knows who is real, imaginary , live or dead?:evilsmile
titanfan
06-29-2006, 12:34 PM
Booster is far too cool and much to snazzy of a dresser to wear as hideous of a costume as Supernova is.
Rich L
06-29-2006, 01:34 PM
And I get to miss out? :confused: :( :(
Sorry, posted during a particularly irritable phase at work today.
Then thought better and deleted it. Doesn't matter.:cool:
DoctorDoom
06-29-2006, 04:08 PM
I too, Think it's Booster.
My theories:
*My first guess was Lex Luthor using his artificial metagene to make himself Superman's replacement. Now THAT would've been a kick in the pants! :D But no, the OYL Luthor stories contradict it.
*Lois Lane, being a hero behind her hubby's back. Another fun idea, but very unlikely.
*The rumored Son of Superman and Lois, coming back from the future to help. Hmm, this one has potential, especially if we see a connection to Booster Gold in 52.
*Jimmy Olsen. Hey, believe it or not he used to be an interesting character before Lois and Batman replaced him as Superman's best friends. And he had all kind of crazy adventures Pre-Crisis, so it would be possible. But I don't think what we have seen in OYL carries this out.
*Perry White. Hey, he used to have super-power granting cigars. SERIOUSLY. Pre-Crisis, of course, so not very likely at all now.
*Alpha Centurion. Not likely, but someone should point out how his whole "Replacement Hero of Metropolis" schtick is being ripped off with Supernova.
*Supergirl in disguise. But why would she do that? Nahh.
*Superman split off in two, ala Superman Red/Superman Blue.
*Bizarro made normal? Hmm.
*A Superman Robot. Naah, too lame. And we know DC NEVER takes the lame way out... RIGHT? ;)
So far, my money is on the Son rumors say that Lois is going to have with Clark soon (a Superman Returns influence?)
darkkeeperjr
06-29-2006, 08:59 PM
Is anyone gonna spoil the book like it's been spoiled the past 7 weeks?
Anyone?
Jack Zodiac
06-29-2006, 09:18 PM
Is anyone gonna spoil the book like it's been spoiled the past 7 weeks?
Anyone?
It begins with John and Natasha arguing about her being a super hero again, then quickly jumps into John's new powers. His chest starts to get glowing-red hot, then turns his skin into stainless steel. This verifies the ideas thrown about after his "hallucination" about being wrapped in liquid steel.
Then it cuts to Star City, where Ollie and Ralph talk about the state of his city after the Crisis. Ralph plants the notion in Ollie's mind that, eventually, leads him to become mayor of Star City a year from then. After their talk, they track down one of the Cult of Conner shrines, when Ralph explains to Ollie that their cult believes the dead can be resurrected. Then it dawns on Ralph that Ollie himself was brought back from the dead.
On the second day, John Henry goes to STAR Labs to get his blood tested. He has the idea that Luthor infected him with the metagene serum that gives normal humans super powers. In the lab, his samples become unstable and violently explode. It seems Lex has control over the metagenes created in his program.
Third day- the debut of Super Nova. He appears to control light, teleporting himself and others, and other things. For three days, we get reports about him randomly helping people avoid seemingly coincidental attacks. Fires, train wrecks, one robbery, a drowning. No one-on-one super villain fights, though. And thus, the speculation begins, as Booster Gold rips into him to the press, considering all the bad press he's getting for being a giant asshole.
On the fith night, Natasha ruins the armor she's been working on, and decides to go to Lex for super powers. She misinterprets a phone call for John about his condition being a result of Luthor's metagene program, then decides he's a hypocrite for preaching his "earn your powers" mantra. That same day, light years away, Adam Strange and Buddy are captured by the same alien that captured Kory on whatever planet they're stranded on.
Then, on the seventh day, Natasha gets bumped to the front of the line for Luthor's program. It's gonna' be interesting when John finds out.
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darkkeeperjr
06-30-2006, 03:13 AM
Thanks! I may need to pick that one up.
Squashua
06-30-2006, 06:18 AM
That "same alien" on day 5 being New God "Devilance".
Remember the New Gods rules, kids:
1) New Gods appear to your perceptions based on your expectations.
2) New Gods are tremendously large.
3) If a New God shows up via a Boom Tube, it will appear at a height appropriate to your race.
Rule #2 was last exercized by Peter David in his Supergirl series.
Knightrangyr
06-30-2006, 03:03 PM
excuse me if Im wrong, but in the 70s or so, when Superman didnt have his powers for an issue, he was a hero called Supernova??? Just asking..so you never know...hmmm
Zero Hunter
06-30-2006, 03:57 PM
The part with Green Arrow did confuse me a bit. I thought as soon as healed up enough from the 2 arrows Merlin stuck through his chest he took off with Mia and Conner to train on some island away from Star City. Here it is two months latter and he is still in Star City? It would have had to been some very severe training to improve his skills enough that Deathstroke noticed it during their fight. That and the fact that Ollie probaly should still be so injuried even after 2 months he should not be able to out and about as Green Arrow. He had 2 arrows go completly through his chest for gods sake. Ollie is just a normal human so that would have had to have layed him up for quite a while.
That was really my only gripe about the issue.
Jack Zodiac
06-30-2006, 03:59 PM
excuse me if Im wrong, but in the 70s or so, when Superman didnt have his powers for an issue, he was a hero called Supernova??? Just asking..so you never know...hmmm
Close. He went by the name Nova and fought crime without his natural super powers. I doubt this is Clark, though. He would've made mention of something like this during Up, Up, and Away.
I like the current idea that it's Rip Hunter, out to ruin Booster's name even more. I just can't figure out what his powers are. He teleports in a burst of light, and can either teleport or disintegrate things with that same power. So, maybe light control. Or, he could be controling time to sort of "pause" moments. I'unno, but I like the Rip Hunter idea.
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The part with Green Arrow did confuse me a bit. I thought as soon as healed up enough from the 2 arrows Merlin stuck through his chest he took off with Mia and Conner to train on some island away from Star City. Here it is two months latter and he is still in Star City? It would have had to been some very severe training to improve his skills enough that Deathstroke noticed it during their fight. That and the fact that Ollie probaly should still be so injuried even after 2 months he should not be able to out and about as Green Arrow. He had 2 arrows go completly through his chest for gods sake. Ollie is just a normal human so that would have had to have layed him up for quite a while.
That was really my only gripe about the issue.
I think it's easy to explain that. Star City is in ruins, so as soon as he's physically able to move he goes back. Ralph shows up at the same time he goes back, and tells him what he should be doing. Ollie leaves again to prepare for this.
As far as Star City is concerned, Green Arrow has been away for a year. If he were active for any serious period of time then people would have known.I'unno, but I like the Rip Hunter idea.Thanks :p
K'Nort
06-30-2006, 06:42 PM
When Ralph trailed off looking shocked with the whole coming back from the dead thing, I was assuming he'd just spotted something new and it was a cliffhanger. Totally forgot about Ollie.
When Ralph trailed off looking shocked with the whole coming back from the dead thing, I was assuming he'd just spotted something new and it was a cliffhanger. Totally forgot about Ollie.
Yes, I only realised that on a second reading.
xionice
06-30-2006, 10:00 PM
On the 4th to last page, why does Luthor have *blue* eyes???????:confused: :eek:
Jack Zodiac
06-30-2006, 11:08 PM
LMD? :p
Seriously though, you're right. After making such a big deal about Alex having green eyes and himself having blue eyes, it would be pretty lame for a simple artist error resulting in some further Clone Saga style idiocy. Sorta' like how Walter West wound up in our lives. :rolleyes:
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This way, when the metagene thing turns out to be a scam, he can use the "it was an imposter" excuse AGAIN!
Jack Zodiac
06-30-2006, 11:25 PM
Then John can kick him in the nuts with his nifty new steel toes. I can't wait to see him publicly ruin Luthor for all of this shit.
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Squashua
07-03-2006, 06:56 AM
So... according to the DC 52 thing at this weekend's convention, a New God will be appearing this week, but we won't recognize him/her/it.
I do not think it will be Supernova; I think this will be in the same vein as the "Seven Soldiers: Mister Miracle" appearance of the New Gods: as a normal-seeming human.
Speculation?
Jack Zodiac
07-03-2006, 01:18 PM
Well, like you said, there's Devilance on that alien planet with Kory, Buddy, and Adam. Maybe, since he's a rather unusual character to reintroduce, that's the New God they're talking about.
Or maybe they'll elaborate on the Seven Soldiers plot.
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Pinnacle
07-03-2006, 08:05 PM
I'm liking the Son of Superman being the Supernova character since it would go along with the Nova/Superman connection. But I also wouldn't mind it being the real Booster to vindicate the character. I remember as a kid that I had an issue of Action Comics around #596 or so where there was an imposter Booster Gold. It was a two-part story so I never found out the conclusion. Maybe this story is a take on that.
Bruce Wayne Jr.
07-04-2006, 10:48 AM
Earth 2 Superman.
Back from the dead and operating secretly, in lieu of 'our' Superman's absence.
The multiverse is now a reality, back in the minds of those who populated other earths. The Supernova costume is obviously a homage to the original Nova suit from World's Finest 178. Could that possibly be the inspiration for E2 Superman?
This may be from left field....
Could Supernova be Wil Payton? Similar light-based powers, he could change his appearance, we thought he was killed by Eclipso, went to space...
and DC did treat him poorly when they "killed" him off.....
JoshuaB
07-16-2006, 09:45 AM
Supernova? I think it's Ronnie Raymond, his old Firestorm powers could fit in the context of what Supernova's been doing.
This may be from left field....
Could Supernova be Wil Payton? Similar light-based powers, he could change his appearance, we thought he was killed by Eclipso, went to space...
and DC did treat him poorly when they "killed" him off.....
I don't want to spoil anything for people who haven't read the 90s Starman series, but if you'll look up Will Payton on Wikipedia (or on the net, really) you'll see why it's very unlikely that it's Will.
SlightlyMad
07-17-2006, 08:20 AM
Here's a weird idea...
Skeets is (or will eventually evolve into) Supernova!
Booster: "Who's underneath that mask?"
Skeets: "It's a mystery to me, sir."
Is it possible that he protests too much?
Of course this could also add fuel to the idea that Supernova is an older Booster (or maybe his kin?).
gorosaurus
07-17-2006, 09:32 PM
Close. He went by the name Nova and fought crime without his natural super powers. I doubt this is Clark, though. He would've made mention of something like this during Up, Up, and Away.
I like the current idea that it's Rip Hunter, out to ruin Booster's name even more. I just can't figure out what his powers are. He teleports in a burst of light, and can either teleport or disintegrate things with that same power. So, maybe light control. Or, he could be controling time to sort of "pause" moments. I'unno, but I like the Rip Hunter idea.
Hi Jack,
I have a 3 part story from World's Finest that has Superman becoming Nova.
It is from 1968 and is an "Imaginary Story". Do you remember the title of the 1970's story you are referring to? It sounds vaguely familiar.
Thanks.
Jack Zodiac
07-17-2006, 09:55 PM
Nope. I'm sure it's the same story. I don't think we've ever seen Superman as Nova again.
Babylon23
07-17-2006, 10:16 PM
So... according to the DC 52 thing at this weekend's convention, a New God will be appearing this week, but we won't recognize him/her/it.
I do not think it will be Supernova; I think this will be in the same vein as the "Seven Soldiers: Mister Miracle" appearance of the New Gods: as a normal-seeming human.
Speculation?
This fits with my theory. I think Supernova is actually Lightray. Heres why:
1) light-based powers
2) Familiarity with Metropolis
3) The Question and Montoya investigating Intergang suggests New Gods involvement.
4) Devilance the Pursuer's appearance confirms New Gods involvement.
5) Editors commented that Darkseid wouldn't be present during IC, but would show up post-IC.
I think Darkseid's up to something. With Earth reeling from the Crisis, and the big 3 missing, it's the perfect time for Darkseid to take advantage of the situation. Naturally, Highfather would send agents to Earth if he had any inkling of what's going on.
I think Lightray is secretly in Metropolis as an agent of Highfather, and has disguised himself as Supernova.
Of course, it could also be Dr. Light II in a man suit.:D
Hellpop
07-18-2006, 11:01 AM
I think Supernova is either a villian pretending to be a hero (which is of course a complete rip- off of the Thunderbolts, which in my mind makes it all the more likely) or an anomoly created by "New Earth". Perhaps he's supposed to be on that Earth with Kyle Raynor and Breach. I don't think it's Rip Hunter, because I think he ties in to the missing mad scientists plot. Though the clues would point to him more than anyone, so it's a good guess.
This fits with my theory. I think Supernova is actually Lightray. Heres why:
1) light-based powers
2) Familiarity with Metropolis
3) The Question and Montoya investigating Intergang suggests New Gods involvement.
4) Devilance the Pursuer's appearance confirms New Gods involvement.
5) Editors commented that Darkseid wouldn't be present during IC, but would show up post-IC.
I think Darkseid's up to something. With Earth reeling from the Crisis, and the big 3 missing, it's the perfect time for Darkseid to take advantage of the situation. Naturally, Highfather would send agents to Earth if he had any inkling of what's going on.
I think Lightray is secretly in Metropolis as an agent of Highfather, and has disguised himself as Supernova.
Of course, it could also be Dr. Light II in a man suit.:D
Maybe I missed something in the DC Universe pre-IC, but how exactly does Intergang suggest New Gods involvement?
ducklord
07-18-2006, 01:08 PM
A few random musings on the various Supernova speculations:
-- I hope it's not Rip Hunter. His primary schtick (time travelling super-scientist adventurer) is so cool that the thought of him flouncing around in tights and a cape seems like a major downgrade for him.
-- Lightray's a distinct possibility, but I'm not sure that revealing HIM to be Supernova would exactly mkae people go "wow" as much as "who?"
-- Like a lot of people, I'm kinda pulling for the "Older Booster" theory. But I freely admit that I'm mostly pulling for it because I'm tired of the Booster in 52 coming across like a grade-A jerk who's apparently learned NOTHING about being a hero during the nearly 20 years of his publishing existence, which makes me suspect that I'm getting my hopes up.
-- It's not Booster's fault, it's Skeets's. After all, without the original Skeets, Brother Eye's technology might never have been born.
-- Speaking of which, does anyone want to bet me fifty quatloos that, when all is said and done, the ins and outs of Booster time travelling will make no stinkin' sense?
Mike
Jack Zodiac
07-18-2006, 01:59 PM
Maybe I missed something in the DC Universe pre-IC, but how exactly does Intergang suggest New Gods involvement?
Intergang was funded and supplied by Darkseid. Ugly Mannheim just showed up again, though, claiming someone else is running the show, now. Jack pointed out, in another thread, that Mannheim was teleported away by something similar to Zeta Beam technology, but I don't see what reason Rann would have to pick up Intergang.
Still, the general gist of it all was, Darkseid isn't behind Intergang at the moment.
shyguy
07-18-2006, 02:18 PM
But I freely admit that I'm mostly pulling for it because I'm tired of the Booster in 52 coming across like a grade-A jerk who's apparently learned NOTHING about being a hero during the nearly 20 years of his publishing existence, which makes me suspect that I'm getting my hopes up.
Not only that, but he's regressed through a lot of character development he went through in JLI. Frankly, his portrayal in 52 doesn't even synch up with how he was portrayed in Countdown or Infinite Crisis, so something could definitely be up there.
-- Speaking of which, does anyone want to bet me fifty quatloos that, when all is said and done, the ins and outs of Booster time travelling will make no stinkin' sense?
Mike
Bet it'll make more sense than that Lake House movie with that girl from the Net and Ted.
Babylon23
07-19-2006, 06:39 PM
Intergang was funded and supplied by Darkseid. Ugly Mannheim just showed up again, though, claiming someone else is running the show, now. Jack pointed out, in another thread, that Mannheim was teleported away by something similar to Zeta Beam technology, but I don't see what reason Rann would have to pick up Intergang.
Still, the general gist of it all was, Darkseid isn't behind Intergang at the moment.
True, but that's OYL. Darkseid may still be funding Intergang iduring 52.
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