Are we still going to have our New Avengers?

[murda_hayte]

After this whole Civil War thing...

Are the New Avengers going to come to an end?

Will we see "New (New) Avengers"?

Who knows, maybe the Avengers will suffer from a (or a few) deaths.

What are your opinions?


(I could'nt find a thread dedicated to this, so I started one) :D

[Loestal]

Yeah, NA is gonna be around for a long time. It will just be a revamped roster or seomthing.

[astronato]

I'm guessing we will see two teams post civil war, one led by Cap and the other by Tony. I dunno, I am sort of lukewarm to the book storywise. I am buying NA basicaly because I like the team line up. Once that changes, the story better pick up.

[bjtrdff]

The team lineup will only end up changing by a couple of members (IM, maybe one or two others).

Cap, Cage, Spidey, Spider-Woman seem to be rumoured to all be on the same side (in Spidey's case, eventually), and it seems likely that Wolvie and Sentry will be too.

[agrich]

It would indeed be a shame if timeless classics like "Ronin" and "The Collective" turned out to mark the end of New Avengers as we know it, but I think any change to the current book will likely be for the better.

Keeping in mind I'm a Bendis fan, in general, but New Avengers will not be the book he's remembered for. At least not fondly.

[Mariah]

It would indeed be a shame if timeless classics like "Ronin" and "The Collective" turned out to mark the end of New Avengers as we know it, but I think any change to the current book will likely be for the better.

Keeping in mind I'm a Bendis fan, in general, but New Avengers will not be the book he's remembered for. At least not fondly.
Whatcha talkin bout man?!?! This is the shiznit!!! Okay, even i can't act that great. I so hope youre right. I am tired of the talking heads, and the three panels of action. I buy superheroes, not freaking soap operas, with dry witted humor

[The Shadow]

timeless classics like "Ronin" and "The Collective"
Would you prefer a return to the timeless classics of old like Sersi, Dr Druid, Gilgamesh or Thunderstrike?

[Red State Cap]

Would you prefer a return to the timeless classics of old like Sersi, Dr Druid, Gilgamesh or Thunderstrike?
What, as opposed to "man-suit-Ronin?"
Or "hey-check-out-my-*ss-and-cleavage-Spider-woman?"
Or "ridiculously-obvious-Superman-clone-Sentry?"

RSC

[o1pickleboy]

Would you prefer a return to the timeless classics of old like Sersi, Dr Druid, Gilgamesh or Thunderstrike?


How about a middle ground.


My opinion they will be two teams like a earier poster stated. Iron Mans in the West Coast and Caps in New York. I think Iron Man team will have the fewest NA on it, but will end up with the classic feel.

For two reasons

1) the line up. My opinion is that the line up with be Iron Man, Spider Man, Sentry, Warbird, Goliath(Bill Foster) and Tigra

2) The writer, I have a feeling that Millar will be writing this title.


The Cap team will continue as Bendis's team with a few additions. I think Quake, Ronin, and maybe the New Daredevil as will be members

[Micro]

With the stuff they have been doing at Marvel, I wouldn't be suprised if they have "American Avengers" and "Avengers International". It seems they are setting up for Captain America to leave the country and form a team to replace Alpha Flight stationed in Canada. He will probably take most of the Anti side with him and join a non-USA Avengers International team, while Iron man and the pro side will lead the American Avengers. A character like Spider-man will most likely change sides in Civil war, yet not leave America, allowing him to work indepently as he always has, as will the Fantastic Four(which will have a different line-up aswell). However, this is all just speculation based on rumors and interviews, so I could be way off.

[murda_hayte]

"Hey check-out-my-*ss-and-cleavage-Spider-woman?"

I quite like Spider-Woman in that way... I've never been one for drawings but she showed me the way! :D

[murda_hayte]

With the stuff they have been doing at Marvel, I wouldn't be suprised if they have "American Avengers" and "Avengers International". It seems they are setting up for Captain America to leave the country and form a team to replace Alpha Flight stationed in Canada. He will probably take most of the Anti side with him and join a non-USA Avengers International team, while Iron man and the pro side will lead the American Avengers. A character like Spider-man will most likely change sides in Civil war, yet not leave America, allowing him to work indepently as he always has, as will the Fantastic Four(which will have a different line-up aswell). However, this is all just speculation based on rumors and interviews, so I could be way off.

Sounds like the DC - JLA/JLE sort of crap... mmm let's hope not.

[Spiderchick1974]

Or "hey-check-out-my-*ss-and-cleavage-Spider-woman?"



You say that like it's a bad thing...:D

[protege]

How about a middle ground.


My opinion they will be two teams like a earier poster stated. Iron Mans in the West Coast and Caps in New York. I think Iron Man team will have the fewest NA on it, but will end up with the classic feel.

For two reasons

1) the line up. My opinion is that the line up with be Iron Man, Spider Man, Sentry, Warbird, Goliath(Bill Foster) and Tigra

2) The writer, I have a feeling that Millar will be writing this title.


The Cap team will continue as Bendis's team with a few additions. I think Quake, Ronin, and maybe the New Daredevil as will be members
That reminds me- i wonder how long the new Daredevil is supposed to last?

[Valen]

What, as opposed to "man-suit-Ronin?"
Or "hey-check-out-my-*ss-and-cleavage-Spider-woman?"
Or "ridiculously-obvious-Superman-clone-Sentry?"

RSC
I, for one, prefer the current roster to the Dr Druid or Thunderstrike one.

[algertman]

Would you prefer a return to the timeless classics of old like Sersi, Dr Druid, Gilgamesh or Thunderstrike?


It's better than those 2 story lines

[CyberCoyote]

Would you prefer a return to the timeless classics of old like Sersi, Dr Druid, Gilgamesh or Thunderstrike?

:) That's too easy. Aside from Dr Druid, though, I'd take it. I liked TS!

"Hey, it's better than the worst it's ever been" isn't the greatest defending line I've heard. At least there isn't a little kid on the covers now threatening to blow his brains out, we've got that going for us :)

[The Shadow]

What, as opposed to "man-suit-Ronin?"
OK... ya got me on that one.
Or "hey-check-out-my-*ss-and-cleavage-Spider-woman?"[/QUOTE]
...and the problem is..."

Or "ridiculously-obvious-Superman-clone-Sentry?" [/QUOTE]
You must not read much Superman because they're about as similar as a Mustang is to a Pinto. Meaning other than the S shield and super powers they aren't.

Sentry doesn't have X-Ray vision, super-breath, he isn't an alien, or the last survivor of a doomed planet and he isn't a solar battery. He's just a normal guy with a drug addiction to his powers, requires a drug to even get his powers and is his own worst enemy (via the Void). Not to mention he has a different colour scheme than Supes does.

Sure there are similarities... both fly, have super dog's, are the epitome of superheroes in their respective universes... but if you are going to be that technical, EVERY comic book hero owes a debt to Superman who is, himself, based on myths, legends and other characters.

[The Shadow]

It's better than those 2 story lines
Dude... you either have never read those stories or have totally forgotten how bad they truely were.

[DDM]

Dude... you either have never read those stories or have totally forgotten how bad they truely were.


The stories are traditionally more substantial & happened between 1-4 issues without Bendis style of always stretching a story beyond its roots to an awful 4-12 issue storyline. Furthermore, the Avengers actually did something in the story besides stand around like idiots the whole time as Bendis writes them.

[Alan2099]

See, I'm torn here. I prefer the new cast, but they're not doing anything and really aren't written well. However the old Thunderstrike/Druid/etc team weren't exactly the best characters but they were written somewhat decently and the stories were tons better.

[Haunt]

keeping an open mind for a second, who says that Dr Druid would have to be lame if he appeared today? i'm sure that whoever created him didn't intend for him to be lame. so maybe it was just that, at the time, he really wasn't lame. times have changed. then so could Dr Druid. that said, i wouldn't want him as an Avenger. i'd rather he be a villain or some kind of adversary.

http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=27721872202%201

[Bobster777]

See, I'm torn here. I prefer the new cast, but they're not doing anything and really aren't written well. However the old Thunderstrike/Druid/etc team weren't exactly the best characters but they were written somewhat decently and the stories were tons better.

Yeah, I like the new cast too. However, I never really liked Wolverine on the team. I guess I'm just tired of seeing him everywhere.

[Red State Cap]

OK... ya got me on that one...
Oh yeah, I forgot:
"I-appear-in-19-books-simultaneously-Spider-Man," and
"I-appear-in-37-books-simultaneously-Wolverine."

[Micro]

Since we are speculating on post civil war Avengers/New Avengers I thought I'd post Joe Quesada's recent comments about it from Newsarama:

Newsarama: Okay - any new word on the now long-ago promised Brian Bendis/Frank Cho series that begins with an “M”, and/or the Bendis hint about “What’s better than one Avengers series?” … including whether those clues are may be related?

Joe Quesada: The only word I can give you is that I’ve seen Frank Cho pages and they’re beautiful. Also, all the heroes are topless. But it’s only the male ones. Did you know that Captain America has nipple rings?
Kidding.
Well, about the topless thing, but Cap does have nipple rings. And a tattoo on the small of his back of a unicorn.

I have no idea what the heck he is talking about!
is he joking?
im not sure I want to know. All I can say is, im scared:eek:

[Bobster777]

Since we are speculating on post civil war Avengers/New Avengers I thought I'd post Joe Quesada's recent comments about it from Newsarama:

Newsarama: Okay - any new word on the now long-ago promised Brian Bendis/Frank Cho series that begins with an “M”, and/or the Bendis hint about “What’s better than one Avengers series?” … including whether those clues are may be related?

Joe Quesada: The only word I can give you is that I’ve seen Frank Cho pages and they’re beautiful. Also, all the heroes are topless. But it’s only the male ones. Did you know that Captain America has nipple rings?
Kidding.
Well, about the topless thing, but Cap does have nipple rings. And a tattoo on the small of his back of a unicorn.

I have no idea what the heck he is talking about!
is he joking?
im not sure I want to know. All I can say is, im scared:eek:

ha ha, I think he is just joking. I've notice he likes to make wisecracks during his interviews. But then again, all the New Avengers did end up naked in the Savage Land during Breakout.

[dazzler_slave]

Would you prefer a return to the timeless classics of old like Sersi, Dr Druid, Gilgamesh or Thunderstrike?
You bet I would!

[dazzler_slave]

keeping an open mind for a second, who says that Dr Druid would have to be lame if he appeared today? i'm sure that whoever created him didn't intend for him to be lame. so maybe it was just that, at the time, he really wasn't lame. times have changed. then so could Dr Druid. that said, i wouldn't want him as an Avenger. i'd rather he be a villain or some kind of adversary.

http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=27721872202%201
I agree completely Haunt. Warren Ellis made Dr. Druid VERY cool in his mid-90's mini series. I reccomend it to everyone! (Of course Ellis' interpretation could never work as an Avenger, but he was still bad@ss nonetheless!)

[Frank]

I`m thinking we`re gonna have two Avengers books written by BMB. I`m rooting for the team that Ronin is not in. lol

[jpk]

Oh yeah, I forgot:
"I-appear-in-19-books-simultaneously-Spider-Man," and
"I-appear-in-37-books-simultaneously-Wolverine."

Weak argument. These are by far Marvel's two most recognized characters. The company is in the business of getting people to pick up its books. It's logical that Marvel would seek to expose the characters as much as possible to increase the likelihood of roping in a new reader.

Not everyone's an obsessive fanboy, remember.

[Bobster777]

Weak argument. These are by far Marvel's two most recognized characters. The company is in the business of getting people to pick up its books. It's logical that Marvel would seek to expose the characters as much as possible to increase the likelihood of roping in a new reader.

Not everyone's an obsessive fanboy, remember.

I'm not obsessively fanboy and I hate the fact that Wolverine is in so many books. I love Wolverine, but I'm starting to get annoyed that he just shows up everwhere. When a character gets used too much, they get stale. As for Spider Man, I think it works with him because he is only in his books and New Avengers. (I don't count CW because everyone is in CW) Wolverine is in his books, Avengers, and also the X-books. I guess your right though. They wouldn't be putting him in so many books if they weren't selling. I for one am starting to get annoyed by it though.

[dazzler_slave]

Weak argument. These are by far Marvel's two most recognized characters. The company is in the business of getting people to pick up its books. It's logical that Marvel would seek to expose the characters as much as possible to increase the likelihood of roping in a new reader.

Not everyone's an obsessive fanboy, remember.
But the over exposure is a tricky beast for Marvel to do. So far it has worked for Spidey and Wolverine. They have stayed popular despite appearing everywhere (tho Spidey hadf a slump in the late 90's and Wolverine seems to be getting a bit of a backlash lately). However, this is not always the case. 2 prime examples are Punisher and Ghost Rider. Both became very popular and started appearing everywhere. Punisher ended up with three monthly series and countless minis and one shots as well as monthly guest appearances. He ended up grossly overexposed and the whole franchise crashed hard around 1996. it wasn't until the Garth Ennis mini a few years ago that he was no longer considered radioactive. Ghost Rider became so popular he got his own imprint, the Midnight Sons with 5 monthlies and a quarterly. 2 years later it was all gone. Sometimes Marvel needs to learn to dial back or they could lose everything. Now Spider Man has had a longer history and Wolverine, while created around the same time as Ghost Rider and Punisher, seems to have a stronger hold on popularity, but they still run the risk of facing what happened to Frank and Johnny/Dan.

[Stagier]

so we're going to have 2 avengers books, bi coastal?

AND a book featuring the team led by Captain "this A isn't for france" Canadia?

Defenders of America's greatest national park

does anyone have any info on who will be on the teams?

I think Ronin has been confirmed.

[dazzler_slave]

so we're going to have 2 avengers books, bi coastal?

AND a book featuring the team led by Captain "this A isn't for france" Canadia?

Defenders of America's greatest national park

does anyone have any info on who will be on the teams?

I think Ronin has been confirmed.
I really hope you weren't referring to Canada as America's greatest national park.

[Buddahbelly]

Wolverine is in his books, Avengers, and also the X-books.
Last I heard he isn't on a team in Uncanny or Abjectiveless. At least not when the new teams come out. Now after that little nitpick... I agree. I started reading comics at Wolverine #40... last run not this one... and have liked him ever scense. It has gotten a bit much. It has gotten bad before. They are starting to dial him back a bit now. 2 Wolvie titles, NA, AX. He'll pop in the other X-line stuff cuz thats what he is. An X-Man.

[Stagier]

I really hope you weren't referring to Canada as America's greatest national park.


hehe,

all in jest i swear.

[Nick MB]

so we're going to have 2 avengers books, bi coastal?

AND a book featuring the team led by Captain "this A isn't for france" Canadia?

Defenders of America's greatest national park

does anyone have any info on who will be on the teams?

I think Ronin has been confirmed.

Nothing has been confirmed in terms of other series. Ronin will re-emerge in some form after Civil War, that's all we know. Could be in New Avengers, could be in a different book.

[o1pickleboy]

I really hope you weren't referring to Canada as America's greatest national park.


Yeah, yellowstone is way better than Canada.

[Micro]

If Bendis has his way, I'd imagin we'd see this Avengers team, or as I call them, Bendis' Super-Friends:

Captian Canada(Formerly Captian America)
Luke Cage
Jessica Jones
Mrs. Marvel
Spider-Woman
Ronin
Spider-Man, er..I mean Peter Parker(Since he doesn't like to wear a mask when Bendis writes him.)...

[Davidai]

I do agree with Wovie's countless appearances. I mean he even appeared in CW #2 itwas a little cameo. But I didn't think he was needed in it.

[Red State Cap]

The rumor that Captain America will go to Canada and become "Captain Canada" (or some such) has already been discredited.

RSC

[Deus ex Chris]

Mrs. Marvel
Ms. Marvel is her name--not Mrs.

[Bobster777]

I do agree with Wovie's countless appearances. I mean he even appeared in CW #2 itwas a little cameo. But I didn't think he was needed in it.
Yeah, what is he doing at the mansion if he is off going after Nitro?

[Hiromi]

Wolverine seems to be getting a bit of a backlash lately

Eh, on the internet maybe, sales don't reflect any backlash at all, especially considering how well Origins has done.

[lordlad]

i thought i read somewhere where bendis said the next arc after 'Disassembled' will be dealing with a new Ultron

[Bobster777]

i thought i read somewhere where bendis said the next arc after 'Disassembled' will be dealing with a new Ultron
I don't know if it will be after Disassembled, but he said in Wizard 178 that the new Ultron arc would take place later this year.