View Full Version : DC's Worst Heroes Ever
Jeremy A. Patterson
06-25-2006, 01:29 PM
I am starting this thread just in time for San Diego as proof that not all DC heroes are beloved.
This will give all of you a chance to discuss the very worst heroes that ever came out of DC & they do not have to be super, either!
Let the discussion begin!
Jeremy Aron Patterson.
Wouldn't this make more sense in the DC forum?
I dislike Green Lantern a great deal.
LordEd1976
06-25-2006, 01:43 PM
Hitman- I don't even know why he's called a hero. Plus the majority of jokes in his comic seem like they were created by a 12-year old.
Wild Dog- A college athelete dons a hockey mask and fights crime by shooting people. All the while wearing his college jersey as part of his costume. I have no idea how it is this mort survived Infinite Crisis while a babe like Jade didn't.
Saturn Girl
06-25-2006, 09:37 PM
I've always disliked Booster Gold and it irks me that he's getting so much play in 52.
I wasn't saddened to see Looker die in IC, as she was a pretty lame heroine - I especially loathed that costume she wore in her early days in Outsiders.
ETA: A link to the atrocity that is Alan Davis' ugliest design ever. I think someone bet him he couldn't come up with something uglier than Janet Van Dyne or Kitty Pryde's outfits:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Outsiders31.JPG
Red Jack
06-25-2006, 10:02 PM
Gunfire.
Anything he picks up can be used as a gun. A lamp. A baby. A shoelace.
Stupid.
lonewolf23k
06-25-2006, 10:09 PM
I've always disliked Booster Gold and it irks me that he's getting so much play in 52.
I'd think you'd enjoy the fact he's pretty much getting humiliated and dragged through the mud in 52, then.
*Snarls snaps and growls in defence of Booster, and the lovable Billy West-voiced Skeets.*
Ahem.
Superpro, the footbal player superhero.
Yeah, I know he's a Marvel character. His sheer awfulness crossed comapnies. The entire industry has to take responsibility for his existence.
kel25
06-26-2006, 01:20 AM
The character I’m going to say might seem like I’m a troll trying to start a flame war but I honestly don’t like him.
SUPERMAN
I will respect him for being the grandfather of superhero comics but I’ve never been fond of him.
dancj
06-26-2006, 05:33 AM
Wild Dog- A college athelete dons a hockey mask and fights crime by shooting people. All the while wearing his college jersey as part of his costume. I have no idea how it is this mort survived Infinite Crisis while a babe like Jade didn't.
Good call. Wild Dog was terrible.
The Will Payton Starman was pretty uninspired. As was Valor - And I never read it, but Takion (sp?) looked pretty lame
I've never been a fan of Waverider, to be honest. Time travelling plot device that always seems to make things worse despite his so called expertise. The character design is ... well, it sums up the early 90's trend nicely. Then again, last time I saw him in a comic he'd reduced himself to a floating brain thing...
Not exactly a fan of Hush either. His premise seems extremely shallow and his cotume design is ... nonsensical to say the least.
Albert
06-26-2006, 05:52 AM
I wasn't saddened to see Looker die in IC, as she was a pretty lame heroine - I especially loathed that costume she wore in her early days in Outsiders.
ETA: A link to the atrocity that is Alan Davis' ugliest design ever. I think someone bet him he couldn't come up with something uglier than Janet Van Dyne or Kitty Pryde's outfits:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Outsiders31.JPG
*cringing* Wow. That costume should be in the dictionary next to tacky, as a visual aid.
For me, I always thought Alpha Centurion was pretty lame. The one sure way to create a misfire is make your character's name a pun. I don't know if he turned out to be a real hero or not-- one appearance of the character was enough for me.
synthetikdemon
06-26-2006, 05:55 AM
Peacemaker was quite lame
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/55/Peacemakerdc.jpg
I intensly disliked gangbuster
http://www.marveloverpower.com/OverPower/DC_OverPower/DCOverPowerPics/DCAllyCards/5Strength_Gangbuster.jpg
and Baby Wildebeest in titans , what a pile of cack
shaunyc56
06-26-2006, 05:58 AM
The character I’m going to say might seem like I’m a troll trying to start a flame war but I honestly don’t like him.
SUPERMAN
I will respect him for being the grandfather of superhero comics but I’ve never been fond of him.
You don't have to worry about holding this line alone. I've never been a big fan of Superman. The whole premise of him seems more villian than hero. I always hated the fact that his greatest issue in life was whether he should take over the earth because he loved us so much. All his villians start out hard core and end up jobbers. The fact that everyone on earth accepts this alien as messiah, hero, human ideal, it all just seemed like to much of a stretch, especially considering how human beings treat each other for just slight differences.
Zenith23
06-26-2006, 06:37 AM
The character I’m going to say might seem like I’m a troll trying to start a flame war but I honestly don’t like him.
SUPERMAN
I will respect him for being the grandfather of superhero comics but I’ve never been fond of him.
I'd have agreed with this a few weeks ago, but after Morrisons AllStar stuff I now see how he should be treated. I wish some one would do the same for poor Hal Jordan as Green Lantern.
otherwise I'm going with Snapper Carr what a w*****r
Spoiler
She was just a stupid, irresponsible kid
Sizzle
06-26-2006, 07:43 AM
Booster Gold. Sounds like a energy drink. He's lame, lame, lame.
Most of the Bloodline "heros" except for Hitman.
MWGallaher
06-26-2006, 07:46 AM
I wasn't saddened to see Looker die in IC, as she was a pretty lame heroine - I especially loathed that costume she wore in her early days in Outsiders.
ETA: A link to the atrocity that is Alan Davis' ugliest design ever. I think someone bet him he couldn't come up with something uglier than Janet Van Dyne or Kitty Pryde's outfits:
Actually, that design was the work of the wonderful Jim Aparo. Maybe it does look tacky, but hey, it was the 80's. Asymmetry and accessorizing were all the rage. And I had to admire the guts in placing those two polka dots where he did!
Some people like to complain that there are no "bad characters", just "badly written characters." I disagree with that statement, and I think that several of the characters listed in this thread really were "bad characters", specifically Takion, Gunfire, and the post-Crisis Peacemaker. Restricting myself to DC heroes that had their own books, I'd add Anima, a drab comic designed to capitalize on, of all things, the Seattle "grunge" craze.
Jeremy A. Patterson
06-26-2006, 07:56 AM
Looker received a few more costumes since then, as you can see in her Wikipedia entry!
J.A.P.
SteelChrysanthemum
06-26-2006, 11:51 AM
Infectious Lass.
Jeremy A. Patterson
06-26-2006, 12:30 PM
Not even the fact that she was created by Dave Cockrum can save Infectious Lass!
J.A.P.
Winged Victory
06-26-2006, 02:40 PM
Bouncing Boy and any of the Legion of Substitue Heroes -- Porcupine Pete, Chlorophyll Kid, Infectious Lass. And who can forget Stone Boy who's power was to turn into an inanimate Stone Statue.
shaunyc56
06-26-2006, 02:43 PM
Aquaman, and the whole premise of speaking to fish. meh
lead sharp
06-26-2006, 02:47 PM
I was all prepared to say I can't think of a single character I think couldn't be handled well (that's how I define a bad character, one that could never be written in a way that made him cool). but he's already been mentioned.
Gunfire.
Dear lord what a stinker. I challange ANY one to write him in a cool way.
jadegiant77
06-26-2006, 04:14 PM
Gangbuster. Bad outfit, lame character. Hey genius, you know the symbol you got crossed out on your chest? That stands for Black Power. You remember, the '60's movement and all that? So what, you just fight Black people? No other ethnic groups commit crimes? Ass.
Azrael as Batman. Batman should never EVER have armor or claws!!!
Spoiler-as -Robin. Stellar two issue career there, kid!!
Gingold
06-26-2006, 04:50 PM
Northwind
Gunfire
Agent Liberty
Silver Sorceress
Anima
Batgirl (Cassie Cain)
MWGallaher
06-26-2006, 04:53 PM
I was all prepared to say I can't think of a single character I think couldn't be handled well (that's how I define a bad character, one that could never be written in a way that made him cool). but he's already been mentioned.
Gunfire.
Dear lord what a stinker. I challange ANY one to write him in a cool way.
Gunfire's highpoints were when they swiped the title of a defunct Marvel comic for the cover blurb ("Creatures On the Loose!") and when he literally shot a brick.
I wasn't saddened to see Looker die in IC, as she was a pretty lame heroine - I especially loathed that costume she wore in her early days in Outsiders.
ETA: A link to the atrocity that is Alan Davis' ugliest design ever. I think someone bet him he couldn't come up with something uglier than Janet Van Dyne or Kitty Pryde's outfits:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Outsiders31.JPG
Wouldn't that outfit ride up in the, uh, crotchal region?
Anyway, it's no secret I hate Aquaman.
SCENE: The Legion of Doom has just attacked Atlanta. But here comes the Justice League!
BATMAN: "Flash, get those innocent bystanders out of here! Superman, Solomon Grundy needs taken down before he destroys half the street! Wonder Woman, lasso Sinestro before he can get in Superman's way! Aquaman.... I, uh, think there may be an aquarium around here somewhere...."
Crimson Avenger
06-26-2006, 05:59 PM
My pick? The Red Bee. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Bee
The most memorable thing he ever did was get beat to death by Baron Blitzkrieg.
Gozwald73
06-26-2006, 07:54 PM
Gigantus and Pax
Two lackluster heroes from an otherwise outstanding cast in L.E.G.I.O.N.
kel25
06-26-2006, 09:53 PM
Another one for the list. Grace from Outsiders. A “badass” tough girl with super strength, invulnerability, and an ironic name. YAWN.
nuclearman
06-26-2006, 10:30 PM
http://www.quicklysell.com/auctionimages/uploads/42588_1.jpg
I really didn't think much of this guy.
Red Jack
06-26-2006, 10:37 PM
http://www.quicklysell.com/auctionimages/uploads/42588_1.jpg
I really didn't think much of this guy.
Well. To be fair, Holly was a villian.
And please tell me Gunfire didn't actually shoot a brick. GOD, that's lame.
Saturn Girl
06-26-2006, 10:43 PM
Bouncing Boy and any of the Legion of Substitue Heroes -- Porcupine Pete, Chlorophyll Kid, Infectious Lass. And who can forget Stone Boy who's power was to turn into an inanimate Stone Statue.
Hey, this is the WORST heroes thread, not the COOLEST HEROES EVER thread.
Long Live the Subs!
Suzanne
06-26-2006, 10:45 PM
otherwise I'm going with Snapper Carr what a w*****rMe too. Really, what the hell did the Justice League need a mascot for anyway, especially one that's not very mascot-y. If they called him what he really was, a groupie, he'd be more worthy of my respect :p
Infectious Lass.With a name like that, her teammates must've avoided her on Saturday nights like a diseased hooker!
He must be mentioned.
Lest we forget...
AZRAEL: AGENT OF THE BAT.
Look, I loved Azrael, okay? And Denny O'Neil? I'm there.
But after they got rid of the Quesida costume... I mean, yikes. Just yikes. Forget Looker, the "Agent of the Bat" costumes need to be in a book on superhero costume design, under the heading "if you design a costume this bad, do the industry a favor and just have your hands removed." I can barely even remember the plots after the costume switched, because every time I bought an issue I was too distracted by the sheer godawfulness of the character design.
Ontir
06-27-2006, 04:10 AM
Friggin' WILDEBEAST!
That was the point I knew Wolfman had lost it.
dancj
06-27-2006, 05:51 AM
Me too. Really, what the hell did the Justice League need a mascot for anyway, especially one that's not very mascot-y. If they called him what he really was, a groupie, he'd be more worthy of my respect :p
With a name like that, her teammates must've avoided her on Saturday nights like a diseased hooker!
How can you not love someone who snaps their fingers when their excited?
Oh yeah that's how.
dancj
06-27-2006, 05:52 AM
Hey, this is the WORST heroes thread, not the COOLEST HEROES EVER thread.
Long Live the Subs!
Damn right. Anyway they were created to be useless so it's a bit redundant to hate them for that
MWGallaher
06-27-2006, 05:55 AM
And please tell me Gunfire didn't actually shoot a brick. GOD, that's lame.
In his very first appearance:
http://www.comics.org/coverview.lasso?id=131180&zoom=4
Zenith23
06-27-2006, 07:00 AM
Bouncing Boy and any of the Legion of Substitue Heroes -- Porcupine Pete, Chlorophyll Kid, Infectious Lass. And who can forget Stone Boy who's power was to turn into an inanimate Stone Statue.
As much as I love the Legion and associates they are a rich vien of dumb assed heroes. Who remembers Matter Eater Lad?
Jeremy A. Patterson
06-27-2006, 08:46 AM
Actually, both Matter-Eater Lad & Bouncing Boy were mocked in an episode of the Anti-Gravity Room!
J.A.P.
Clint Barton
06-27-2006, 09:25 AM
Color Kid. He can change the colors of things at will. meh. Any 5 year old with a package of Crayolas could've beaten his ass.:D
ducklord
06-27-2006, 11:01 AM
I'm a dues-paying member of the "There Are No Bad Characters, Only Unimaginative Writers" Club (only $5 a year, and all the back-issues of Prez your dazzled eyes can stand), but even so, there are some characters that would seem, on the surface, to require Morrisonian levels of imagination to make cool:
Triumph
The notion of an arrogant, perfectionist super-hero who is only tolerated by his colleagues because he's both competent and a brilliant strategist is can work (see: Batman's portrayal in the JLA over the last 10 years).
Similarly, the concept of a time-lost super-hero who was cheated out of becoming a charter member of one of the world's most revered super-teams by a temporal distortion is compelling, and even somewhat original.
The combination of these to decent tastes, however, went over like a chocolate-smothered anchovy.
I read somewhere recently that Priest intended Triumph to be gay. Somehow, I don't think that would've helped.
The Yazz
The "wise alien outsider who takes gentle amusing jabs at the main cast of characters" is a nice staple of serialized fiction, and can be effectively used to deflate the often overheated melodrama of the drama. On the other hand, these characters can be dangerous; if they're not utterly charming (like, say, Buffy's Xander), they can quickly shift from "beloved comic relief" to "utterly loathed waste of space." Neelix danced back and forth across this line duting his tenure on Voyager, in my opinion. The Yazz, on the other hand, quickly established himself as a Yazzin' albatross hung around the neck of the once-thriving Justice League line of books.
Pariah
An overdrawn Perez costume. A perpetual whine resonating across the multiverse. Purple freakin hair. Freed the Anti-Monitor. Should've been named "Harbinger." On top of that, HE COULDN'T BE KILLED. When Luthor put a bullet in him, it was almost a mercy killing.
Mike
shaunyc56
06-27-2006, 11:12 AM
I know that now that he's maggot food were supposed to look over the fact that after a good start, they buddy copped him w/ and even bigger buffoon.
BLUE BEETLE.
Lonewalker
06-27-2006, 11:25 AM
Mine is simple: Hal Jordan.
krinn
06-27-2006, 12:14 PM
Anima
terrible terrible
nuclearman
06-27-2006, 08:26 PM
Well. To be fair, Holly was a villian.
Well that makes him a pretty ordinary hero doesn't it?:D
Suzanne
06-27-2006, 10:34 PM
I suspect that the Legionnaires mentioned wouldn't be so bad if they better names :p
dancj
06-28-2006, 05:34 AM
I know that now that he's maggot food were supposed to look over the fact that after a good start, they buddy copped him w/ and even bigger buffoon.
BLUE BEETLE.
Blue Beetle was a great character
Zenith23
06-28-2006, 06:51 AM
How can you not love someone who snaps their fingers when their excited?
Oh yeah that's how.
even DC woke up and smelled the roses by turning him into a villian, last I saw him he turned up as the Star Tsar! and he was still lame.
Agentum
06-28-2006, 07:20 AM
Matter-eater lad and thet one that turn into stone as only power is more fun than really bad, wasn't there one that could drop off his arms or something like that as his only power?:D
Those Bloodlines was not good really, well Hitman is ok but the other ones was really bad.
shaunyc56
06-28-2006, 07:34 AM
Blue Beetle was a great character
At first yeah, I even didn't mind some comic relief. Not all heroes have to be Grim and Gritty. But he wasn't even shown as competent until they were setting him up to die. The lead up to his death was the best use of him ever.
My dissapointment w/ how he was handled is what made me mention him.
phicks
06-28-2006, 12:15 PM
Vibe. Truly the worst of the already awful Detroit era JLA. Their reappearance in JLA Classified has made me drop that book until their story arc is done.
Kara Zor El
06-28-2006, 02:01 PM
Merry, Girl of 1,000 Gimmicks was pretty crap.
shaunyc56
06-28-2006, 02:32 PM
Ummm, was that Joker's daughter character a hero, if so, she sucked.
Lonewalker
06-28-2006, 03:55 PM
Ummm, was that Joker's daughter character a hero, if so, she sucked.
Duela was part of the Teen Titans.
Winged Victory
06-28-2006, 03:56 PM
Beppo the Supermonkey!
Agentum
06-29-2006, 12:50 AM
At first yeah, I even didn't mind some comic relief. Not all heroes have to be Grim and Gritty. But he wasn't even shown as competent until they were setting him up to die. The lead up to his death was the best use of him ever.
My dissapointment w/ how he was handled is what made me mention him.
I think you have missed that he started out as a serious character(the version you mean was imported from Charlton and designed by Ditko), but his book failed so they had some fun with him and got him more sucessful.
So i don't think you really understand what a bad character is at all.
There is some really bad storys with Batman or Superman do that mean those are bad characters too?
Humorless people always complaining about those funny characters.
dancj
06-29-2006, 05:42 AM
At first yeah, I even didn't mind some comic relief. Not all heroes have to be Grim and Gritty. But he wasn't even shown as competent until they were setting him up to die. The lead up to his death was the best use of him ever.
I've read all of Len Wein's run and all of Giffen's Justice League and I've never seen Blue Beetle shown to be incompetant
(not that I think all good characters should be competant)
Dan
shaunyc56
06-29-2006, 06:17 AM
I think you have missed that he started out as a serious character(the version you mean was imported from Charlton and designed by Ditko), but his book failed so they had some fun with him and got him more sucessful.
So i don't think you really understand what a bad character is at all.
There is some really bad storys with Batman or Superman do that mean those are bad characters too?
Humorless people always complaining about those funny characters.
Look, I'm all for funny characters, I love Deadpool. BB just always annoyed me more than entertained. I never looked forward to seeing him in a comic, until I found out he was dying.
I think some people are using this thread to rant about characters they dislike instead of listing the characters that nobody in their right mind should like.
(and I like Anima, thanks. Nice idea. Poor execution, but nice idea).
The original Batwoman. God save us from people looking back with the rosetinted glasses of nostalgia, she was a godawful June Cleaver in garish tights, thrown in with a mishmash of Batman and Robin's origins that removed the parts that were actually interesting (I'm a wealthy heiress with a circus background!), added when DC comics desperately needed to show that the Bat-family was a regular wholesome American family - because Fredrick Wertham's book was saying they were destroying America's youth with their homosexuality. And she had a utility purse with, like, spring-loaded powder puffs, and extra-strength perfume that would make bad guys cough and cry. Christ.
Red Jack
06-29-2006, 12:04 PM
Matter-eater lad and thet one that turn into stone as only power is more fun than really bad, wasn't there one that could drop off his arms or something like that as his only power?:D.
You mean Arm Fall Off Boy?
God that takes me back.
Sean Walsh
06-29-2006, 12:12 PM
Peacemaker was quite lame
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/55/Peacemakerdc.jpg
I intensly disliked gangbuster
http://www.marveloverpower.com/OverPower/DC_OverPower/DCOverPowerPics/DCAllyCards/5Strength_Gangbuster.jpg
and Baby Wildebeest in titans , what a pile of cack
Then you'll be glad to know Peacemaker died years ago, and his even lamer successor Peacemaker II (aka Peacekeeper) and Baby Wildebeest are, thanks to Infinite Crisis, dead dead dead.
Sean Walsh
06-29-2006, 12:14 PM
Those Bloodlines was not good really, well Hitman is ok but the other ones was really bad.
Bloodlines was pretty much a huge waste of time. And Hitman only worked because Garth Ennis wrote him in an entertaining/overly bizarre and thus funny way - he'd have probably sucked something awful if given the same treatment as the other Bloodlines folks...
...I liked Baby Wildebeast and Pantha. The were funny.
No room for funny any more... *Sighs.*
Lonewalker
06-29-2006, 06:27 PM
(and I like Anima, thanks. Nice idea. Poor execution, but nice idea).
Indeed. I agree.
Jeremy A. Patterson
06-30-2006, 12:06 PM
Anima was a neat concept!
J.A.P.
DMike
06-30-2006, 04:43 PM
What actually was the concept behind Anima? The only thing I remember her from was when she got hit on by Superboy in the middle of an apocalypse during Zero Hour.
Jeremy A. Patterson
07-26-2006, 10:06 AM
Most of the Bloodlines heroes are created to cash in on the Rob Liefeld craze!
J.A.P.
Michael P
07-26-2006, 10:13 AM
Wouldn't that outfit ride up in the, uh, crotchal region?
Anyway, it's no secret I hate Aquaman.
SCENE: The Legion of Doom has just attacked Atlanta. But here comes the Justice League!
BATMAN: "Flash, get those innocent bystanders out of here! Superman, Solomon Grundy needs taken down before he destroys half the street! Wonder Woman, lasso Sinestro before he can get in Superman's way! Aquaman.... I, uh, think there may be an aquarium around here somewhere...."
Atlanta's on the Chatahoochee River, smart guy.
caats19
07-26-2006, 10:16 AM
Aquaman, and the whole premise of speaking to fish. meh
i like aquaman. the new guy is pretty cool, but even orin, i think they never took advantage that he was a king. there shoulda been undersea wars and badass stuff like that. that i guess they're doing with the new arthur.
What actually was the concept behind Anima? The only thing I remember her from was when she got hit on by Superboy in the middle of an apocalypse during Zero Hour.
Basic idea: Ordinary teenage runaway girl is made the vessel of the living personification of mankind's "male" rage.
But it was basically screwed from the get go by trying to tie it in to that whole ridiculous Bloodlines "aliens gave us powers by biting us" thing. Sigh.
Atlanta's on the Chatahoochee River, smart guy.
I don't think Aquaman can use his powers on Alan Jackson.
Ronnigon
07-26-2006, 11:53 PM
Gunfire.
Anything he picks up can be used as a gun. A lamp. A baby. A shoelace.
Stupid.
I started belly-laughing at this, right in the middle of a crowded coffee shop. And of course, everybody just had to make a grand point of turning around to look at me like I was an idiot.
Gotta love the human race.
Bring on Ebola.
josh_da_man27@hotmail.com
07-27-2006, 01:27 PM
I saw some replies that mentioned Aquaman. I had to laugh, because, around here, we would be ashamed to be seen purchasing an Aquaman comic book. Maybe it's because he has a terrible video game out. I do like his hair, though; I'll give him that.
For comic books other than Aquaman, check out my site:
http://www.mustangcomics.bravehost.com
Wonder Dude
07-27-2006, 02:43 PM
The Resurrection Man / Hitman crossover was a low point.
titanfan
07-27-2006, 04:02 PM
How is Gunfire any less lame than Gambit, who at one time was really popular?
Bat-Mite
07-27-2006, 04:34 PM
Gunfire is not any more or any less lame than Gambit. Gambit just has a trenchcoat.
Jeremy A. Patterson
07-28-2006, 10:06 AM
Gunfire was one of the heroes that debuted in the Bloodlines crossover!
J.A.P.
dazzler_slave
07-31-2006, 01:18 PM
Gunfire was a terrible idea. The worst of all the Bloodlines heroes.
Extrano was brutal. He had every single stereotype for a gay male (he was very feminine, his clothes were on the verge of being drag, he wore a lot of tank tops, he had a neatly groomed mustache, he was over dramatic and bitchy etc.) To make matters worse, his code name translates to "Strange" or "Queer" in English. Finally, to add insult to injury, he ends up getting AIDS. Cuz of course the gay guy has to get AIDS. But he doesn't even get AIDS in any way that remotely suggests he has a healthy sex life. No, he gets bitten by an AIDS vampire named Hemogoblin who bites him and passes on the disease! Yeah, I think Extrano is probably the worst character of all time.
gking727
08-01-2006, 08:37 PM
Arrowette - stupid, stupid name. Even in the 60's when the first one debuted.
Manitou Raven/Dawn - for no particular reason. The characters just never seemed well handled to me.
Shade, The Changing Man - with all respect to Ditko, this just never worked for me.
Vixen, Vibe, Steel & Gypsy - A true low point for the JLA
Kyle Rayner - whiny wannabe Green Lantern
Any or all of the Global Guardians
The New Blue Beetle & Atom aren't impressing me much yet but it's still early.
Takusa
08-01-2006, 08:43 PM
Superman, I hate him with great passion.
Armless Penguin
08-01-2006, 09:06 PM
Kyle Rayner - whiny wannabe Green Lantern
Calling him a "wannabe" is a little harsh, considering he's the sole reason that there's even a Corps right now.
gking727
08-01-2006, 10:25 PM
Calling him a "wannabe" is a little harsh, considering he's the sole reason that there's even a Corps right now.
Yeah, but up until then... ;)
dancj
08-02-2006, 05:36 AM
Kyle's one of my favourite Green Lanterns. I certainly put him above Hal and John Stewart
Kara Zor El
08-02-2006, 06:47 AM
Shaggy Man was a bit - "You what?"
Big hairy robot that looked like chebacca but with a longer Moustache and beard.
Deadpooligan
08-02-2006, 07:33 AM
I'm trying to enjoy Blue Beetle III, since he's like a kid Iron Man with like symbiote (Marvel). He's such a BLAND character. With too many Tex-Mex jokes! I just can't yet... he's still new. Loved him in IC though.
All the Global Guardians. All the Legionairres EVER minus Matter-Eater Lad, Bouncing Boy, Modern Superboy and Supergirl.
Scarlet Speedster
08-02-2006, 06:08 PM
Fate, a crappy mercenary character created to replace the whole Dr. Fate concept. I dropped it after five issues and was happy to learn Hector Hall replaced him as the proper mantle to the helmet, amulet, cape, etc. in JSA.
Hal Jordan as The Spectre, a poor substitute when Jim Corrigan finally got to go to Heaven. The whole redemption angle was laudable, but never proved to be compelling to me. Even the bland 80s Spectre series was better! Thankfully Hal Jordan works better as Green Lantern. :)
Black Condor, a guy who had a blink-and-you-missed-it ongoing series in the early 90s. Does the DC Universe need more than one wing-spanning couple?
Jeremy A. Patterson
08-02-2006, 06:23 PM
Extrano was one of the very first openly gay heroes in comics, even if he is a pathetic stereotype!
J.A.P.
dancj
08-03-2006, 06:14 AM
Black Condor, a guy who had a blink-and-you-missed-it ongoing series in the early 90s. Does the DC Universe need more than one wing-spanning couple?
Coincidentally I just listed that series on an "underrated stories" thread. I really liked Black Condor. His powers weren't what made the character. It was things like the stories and the cast, and their personalities that made it great.
Mulett
08-04-2006, 04:13 AM
I've never quite understood Wildcat. How is he not dead a thousand times over? He has no weapons, no special skills (apart from punching people) and must be about 80 years old by now. I have nothing against un-powered superheores, but Wildcat . .. come on!
Paragon
08-04-2006, 04:40 AM
I've never quite understood Wildcat. How is he not dead a thousand times over? He has no weapons, no special skills (apart from punching people) and must be about 80 years old by now. I have nothing against un-powered superheores, but Wildcat . .. come on!
Well, in the JSA it was explained that has 9 lives.
They have beed used now, after being killed by the Crimson Avengers a few times, so he is now on his last one.
dancj
08-04-2006, 06:03 AM
Have they explained why he has 9 lives? I'm sure dressing up as a cat alone isn't enough
KnOwMaN
08-04-2006, 08:21 AM
Gunfire was a terrible idea. The worst of all the Bloodlines heroes.
I think Mongrul is worst of them all..... :)
I've never quite understood Wildcat. How is he not dead a thousand times over? He has no weapons, no special skills (apart from punching people) and must be about 80 years old by now. I have nothing against un-powered superheores, but Wildcat . .. come on!
Kept alive and young by magic (complicated stories on that one, but it is explained), had nine lives (complicated story there, but it is explained), and as for "no special skills apart from punching people"...
He's the best there is at punching people. He took out Muhammad Ali. Muhammad Ali . And he's still (magically) at about the same age and physical shape he was when he did that.
Hellstormer
08-04-2006, 09:03 AM
I think Mongrul is worst of them all..... :)
Poor Geist was the best and he just faded out've existence except for that one bit in the VU special.
ShaggyB
08-04-2006, 09:22 AM
Kept alive and young by magic (complicated stories on that one, but it is explained), had nine lives (complicated story there, but it is explained), and as for "no special skills apart from punching people"...
He's the best there is at punching people. He took out Muhammad Ali. Muhammad Ali . And he's still (magically) at about the same age and physical shape he was when he did that.
yeah thats all well and good, but he still sucks
It may still be too soon for some to hear it but......
Connar Kent aka SuperBoy
Ahhh the fun of being a clone of superman and some other random a$$ character,,,,,
oh wait thats retconned now its supes and luthor.....
well atleast his powers havent changed....
oh wait he is sortta psychic
whats next he get rez'd and picks up a few new super powers to go with it.
leave him dead he was a terrible super-boy from day one. I hate calling him that, he was once booster gold in a supermanish cloth. then he became the rebel superboy who wore tshirt and jeans. then the whiney i cant fight boy. then he turned it around and died. ahhhh cleverness surrounds his every move.
yeah thats all well and good, but he still sucks
.
No doubt his continued popularity after 60 years is a sign of his sucking. :rolleyes:
MrSuslov
08-04-2006, 01:09 PM
I don't have much of an opinion WRT Wildcat, but this is the guy who stops shuriken with his bare hands.* And besides, he was apparently very helpful in the combat development of my favorite DC character, so he can't be all that bad. :D
The man has my respect.
* See Birds of Prey 82. --Ed.
Subotai
08-04-2006, 09:40 PM
Kyle's one of my favourite Green Lanterns. I certainly put him above Hal and John Stewart
Rayner won me over with his heart-to-heart with Green Arrow in The Archer's Quest - how his girlfriend was murdered his first week on the job and how he's always worked in the shadow of Hal Jordan. Give the kid credit, he stuck in there.
Count Vertigo
08-04-2006, 10:16 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferior_Five
'Nuff said.
Ronnigon
08-05-2006, 04:19 AM
I think I can top you.
Behold, Brother Power... The Geek:
http://www.comics.org/coverview.lasso?id=22213&zoom=4
Zenith23
08-05-2006, 10:03 AM
I think I can top you.
Behold, Brother Power... The Geek:
http://www.comics.org/coverview.lasso?id=22213&zoom=4
i'm intrigued, what the Fuh! is that all about?
curefreak
08-05-2006, 10:25 AM
I think I can top you.
Behold, Brother Power... The Geek:
http://www.comics.org/coverview.lasso?id=22213&zoom=4
oh god that looks horrible.
Count Vertigo
08-05-2006, 10:53 AM
Good grief! I remember Brother Power!!!
Thnikkaman
08-05-2006, 10:11 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inferior_Five
'Nuff said.
It doesn't count if we're SUPPOSED to think they're losers.
Brother Power, OTOH... yeah, he's a valid choice.
BooCoo
08-05-2006, 10:18 PM
I know this is a DC hero thread, but...
Who was the weirdo that wore the full white body stocking with the blank face with a big question mark on his chest? Wasn't this clown in a Marvel Special from WAAAY back? If anyone has a source file on this goober, let me know. :confused:
There was another character very similar who used to appear in Marvel Ad splash pages. He also wore a full body stocking (including the head) but he carried a giant pencil and had colored checker squares all over. Talk about crackhead city...:rolleyes:
Paul Newell
08-05-2006, 10:28 PM
I know this is a DC hero thread, but...
Who was the weirdo that wore the full white body stocking with the blank face with a big question mark on his chest? Wasn't this clown in a Marvel Special from WAAAY back? If anyone has a source file on this goober, let me know. :confused:
There was another character very similar who used to appear in Marvel Ad splash pages. He also wore a full body stocking (including the head) but he carried a giant pencil and had colored checker squares all over. Talk about crackhead city...:rolleyes:
It's DC's worst heroes in this thread. :)
Jeremy A. Patterson
08-06-2006, 04:28 PM
how about Lady Cop: www.misterkitty.org/extras/stupidcovers/stupidcomics63.html
She appeared only once, in the 1970s!
J.A.P.
curefreak
08-06-2006, 04:32 PM
how about Lady Cop: www.misterkitty.org/extras/stupidcovers/stupidcomics63.html
She appeared only once, in the 1970s!
J.A.P.
at least shes hot tho:)
Bat-Mite
08-06-2006, 08:54 PM
She appeared only once, but so did a lot of folks that debuted in the exact same series she did. If that is the criteria, then she is tied with all those, too.
Jeremy A. Patterson
08-07-2006, 08:33 AM
The only FIS hero to gain notable respect was Travis Morgan, The Warlord!
J.A.P.
Ronnigon
08-08-2006, 01:45 AM
Here's the scoop on Brother Power, the Geek:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brother_Power_the_Geek
Hellstormer
08-08-2006, 12:24 PM
how about Lady Cop: www.misterkitty.org/extras/stupidcovers/stupidcomics63.html
She appeared only once, in the 1970s!
J.A.P.
Well she was popular enough to have some adult pics drawn of her.
Zenith23
08-08-2006, 01:34 PM
how about Lady Cop: www.misterkitty.org/extras/stupidcovers/stupidcomics63.html
She appeared only once, in the 1970s!
J.A.P.
That stupidcovers site is a blast. Fantomah vs the Wierd Guerillas.... LMAO!!
Gozwald73
08-09-2006, 07:01 PM
I know this is a DC hero thread, but...
Who was the weirdo that wore the full white body stocking with the blank face with a big question mark on his chest? Wasn't this clown in a Marvel Special from WAAAY back? If anyone has a source file on this goober, let me know. :confused:
There was another character very similar who used to appear in Marvel Ad splash pages. He also wore a full body stocking (including the head) but he carried a giant pencil and had colored checker squares all over. Talk about crackhead city...:rolleyes:
You're thinking of The Heckler - and I've been lobbying for his return, it was a great book!
:confused:
Dustin
08-09-2006, 11:57 PM
I hate Green Lantern.
Chick Of Many Colors
08-10-2006, 10:29 AM
Ambush Bug.
The Flash
08-10-2006, 10:47 AM
The old version of Kid Devil was pretty lame.
yeah thats all well and good, but he still sucks
It may still be too soon for some to hear it but......
Connar Kent aka SuperBoy
Ahhh the fun of being a clone of superman and some other random a$$ character,,,,,
oh wait thats retconned now its supes and luthor.....
well atleast his powers havent changed....
oh wait he is sortta psychic
whats next he get rez'd and picks up a few new super powers to go with it.
leave him dead he was a terrible super-boy from day one. I hate calling him that, he was once booster gold in a supermanish cloth. then he became the rebel superboy who wore tshirt and jeans. then the whiney i cant fight boy. then he turned it around and died. ahhhh cleverness surrounds his every move.
conner was the shiznit and I ain reading no DC (except for batman) until he comes back
Babylon23
08-10-2006, 10:51 PM
Vibe is a definite contender. Not only did they create this mort to cash in on the breakdancing craze, but they threw him into the JLA as well.
However, my personal hate is directed at Fate, possibly the lamest attempt to create a grim 'n gritty character based on an old idea. Best thing that ever happened to that godawful character was when he was stabbed to death at the end of JSA #1.
Now a personal admition. I liked Wilddog. Awful costume, but the "who is he" mystery was intersting, and the christian terrorists story in Action COmics Weekly was quite good.
Constantine Drakon
08-10-2006, 11:37 PM
I know he has his fans, but I'm going to nominate Jerico. I just don't see the appeal, and that hair creeped me out. I think a lot of fans show him more respect than he deserves just because of who his dad is. But since I don't fear his dad, I have no problem with saying he was one of the worst ever.
Hellstormer
08-12-2006, 02:58 PM
I know he has his fans, but I'm going to nominate Jerico. I just don't see the appeal, and that hair creeped me out. I think a lot of fans show him more respect than he deserves just because of who his dad is. But since I don't fear his dad, I have no problem with saying he was one of the worst ever.
Dude Slades gonna come up behind you, knock you out, and cut your hair like Jericho's.
dancj
08-14-2006, 05:54 AM
Ambush Bug.
Take that back!!
Wild Card13
08-14-2006, 08:53 PM
First off, I agree about the earlier comments about Superman. Really, really, really don't like Superman.
A few more:
Aquaman. Do I really need to say more?
Ultimate Deadpool. Yeah, he sucks that much that I'm putting him in a thread about DC's worst characters.
But the real winner?
The Wonder Twins.
Charles01
08-14-2006, 10:34 PM
Plastic Man Worse Ever
Walter West
08-14-2006, 11:51 PM
Gunfire was a terrible idea. The worst of all the Bloodlines heroes.
Extrano was brutal. He had every single stereotype for a gay male (he was very feminine, his clothes were on the verge of being drag, he wore a lot of tank tops, he had a neatly groomed mustache, he was over dramatic and bitchy etc.) To make matters worse, his code name translates to "Strange" or "Queer" in English. Finally, to add insult to injury, he ends up getting AIDS. Cuz of course the gay guy has to get AIDS. But he doesn't even get AIDS in any way that remotely suggests he has a healthy sex life. No, he gets bitten by an AIDS vampire named Hemogoblin who bites him and passes on the disease! Yeah, I think Extrano is probably the worst character of all time.
Was he bit on the inner thigh? Mild-mannered hairdresser?
Armless Penguin
08-14-2006, 11:54 PM
The Wonder Twins.
The Wonder Twins were awesome in Extreme Justice. Plus they ate Wonder Girl's CDs in YJ. Ftw.
Michael Painter
08-15-2006, 01:37 AM
Roy Raymond, TV Detective.
Can we go any more obscure with lame characters.
curefreak
08-15-2006, 02:32 AM
im glad theres not a lot of vibe haters on this thread..
dancj
08-15-2006, 05:14 AM
im glad theres not a lot of vibe haters on this thread..
Only because we'd forgotten he existed.
Peterschick1977
08-15-2006, 06:17 AM
Vibe was a very lame character, in my opinion.
I never liked Gypsy or Fate either.
I hate Faith and Ice.
wellsoul2
08-15-2006, 08:10 AM
Booster Gold, John Henry Irons AND his daughter, Ralph Dibny.
I was kind of happy that 52 immediately had characters I mostly hated so
I could happily spend my money elsewhere.
Hellstormer
08-15-2006, 10:33 AM
Aquaman. Do I really need to say more?
.
STFU!!!:mad: He kicked the shit outta Deathstroke and pulled up a whole LA city block by himself!
Eliseu Gouveia
08-15-2006, 12:15 PM
I know he has his fans, but I'm going to nominate Jerico. I just don't see the appeal, and that hair creeped me out. I think a lot of fans show him more respect than he deserves just because of who his dad is. But since I don't fear his dad, I have no problem with saying he was one of the worst ever.
Jericho always struck me as a Deadman-lite.
Jeremy A. Patterson
08-16-2006, 10:37 AM
You three will be glad that Vibe, Fate, Gypsy, Faith, & Ice are among the unlikely heroes included in the first-ever 'Unlikely Over-The-Top Battle Royal' now starting over at Comic book Rumbles!
J.A.P.
dazzler_slave
08-16-2006, 10:58 AM
The old version of Kid Devil was pretty lame.
I actually preferred the original Kid Devil. At least he stood out. He was a stupid looking kid in a stupid looking devil costume, but now he just looks like some generic Top Cow character.
Jeremy A. Patterson
08-16-2006, 12:47 PM
Gunfire was a terrible idea. The worst of all the Bloodlines heroes.
Extrano was brutal. He had every single stereotype for a gay male (he was very feminine, his clothes were on the verge of being drag, he wore a lot of tank tops, he had a neatly groomed mustache, he was over dramatic and bitchy etc.) To make matters worse, his code name translates to "Strange" or "Queer" in English. Finally, to add insult to injury, he ends up getting AIDS. Cuz of course the gay guy has to get AIDS. But he doesn't even get AIDS in any way that remotely suggests he has a healthy sex life. No, he gets bitten by an AIDS vampire named Hemogoblin who bites him and passes on the disease! Yeah, I think Extrano is probably the worst character of all time.
Gunfire had his own book for like, sixteen issues around 1994-95!
Extrano was the first mainstream openly gay comic book character of the modern era!
J.A.P.
Spastic Minnow
08-16-2006, 02:20 PM
You're thinking of The Heckler - and I've been lobbying for his return, it was a great book!
:confused:
Actually The Heckler (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%28comics%29) had "Ha Ha" plastered all over his costume. Heckler was a fun Keith Giffen comedic comic in the mold of Ambush Bug. Four moped of the apocalypse. Priceless!
Susan Beneville
08-16-2006, 04:18 PM
I have to agree with most of the postings so far. What was the point of VIBE? He makes me want to spit my teeth out. And, hey, what's that painful screeching in my ears? Oh, that's pathetic Detroit STEEL whining again.
Any of the "BEES". Has DC ever had a great insect-themed character? I think not. The original HAWK & DOVE made me want to shoot myself.
But to disagree ... Bouncing Boy and the Substitute Legion! They are the kind of silly I can dig. Booster and Blue Beetle? With Giffen at the helm, they were funny, you have to admit that.
But here's one to fight about ... Jason Todd as Robin II. Great character ... lousy hero.
I actually preferred the original Kid Devil. At least he stood out. He was a stupid looking kid in a stupid looking devil costume, but now he just looks like some generic Top Cow character.
Not only does he look like a generic villain but he also looks much too old to be "Kid" anything.
Is this the original Kid Devil? If so, that's an awesome costume. It makes me want to read pre-Johns TEEN TITANS ever more.
http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/9/9a/200px-Kiddevil.jpg
Hellstormer
08-16-2006, 06:43 PM
Ummm when he was referring to Kid Devil's "cool costume" I tihnk he was leaning more towards this one. http://titanstower.com/assets/whos%20who/aapanels/teentitans3/kiddevilYJ.jpg
dazzler_slave
08-17-2006, 08:44 AM
Now see? Didn't Kid Devil look much better then? Sure, he looked kinda silly, but that was the point! At least he stood out then, unlike now.
dazzler_slave
08-17-2006, 08:45 AM
Extrano was the first mainstream openly gay comic book character of the modern era!
J.A.P.
Yes he was, but that still doesn't absolve him from being an atrocious character! He was awful!
curefreak
08-17-2006, 09:10 AM
was kid devil a blue devil fanboy? whats his story ?
Hellstormer
08-17-2006, 11:10 AM
was kid devil a blue devil fanboy? whats his story ?
He was with Dan Cassidy when he became Blue Devil he hung out with him until issue 14 where he decided to become BD's unofficial sidekick.
curefreak
08-17-2006, 11:12 AM
He was with Dan Cassidy when he became Blue Devil he hung out with him until issue 14 where he decided to become BD's unofficial sidekick.
didnt he get turned into a real demon too? i remember reading a teen titans where he was...
Iron-boy
08-17-2006, 11:42 AM
Superman
Because he died yet he is still alive.
Ummm when he was referring to Kid Devil's "cool costume" I tihnk he was leaning more towards this one.
That's better than the current too, but I prefer the one I posted. The silliness works, especially for a kid hero who will have some silly ideas of what looks "cool".
Hellstormer
08-17-2006, 03:42 PM
didnt he get turned into a real demon too? i remember reading a teen titans where he was...
Blue Devil got turned into a demon during the Underworld crossover I think.
That's better than the current too, but I prefer the one I posted. The silliness works, especially for a kid hero who will have some silly ideas of what looks "cool".
It's the same character just a new look.
It's the same character just a new look.
I know. I'm just saying I liked the look I posted the most.
curefreak
08-17-2006, 03:45 PM
Blue Devil got turned into a demon during the Underworld crossover I think.
It's the same character just a new look.
but when did kid devil turn into a real demon?
dazzler_slave
08-17-2006, 03:52 PM
but when did kid devil turn into a real demon?
It happened some time during the missing year. In the Teen Titans arc when they fought Brother Blood and the Undead Titans, Kid Devil was sitting in a park in his civilian clothes totally human when a bunch of demons erupted out of the ground. The next time we see him is OYL and he is a tacky looking demon. So we don't yet know what happened.
Hellstormer
08-17-2006, 06:00 PM
Actually we do, don't you remember taht weird beam he got hit with? We know that KD isn't a real demon but a mutation of sorts my guess is that beam mutated him
It happened some time during the missing year. In the Teen Titans arc when they fought Brother Blood and the Undead Titans, Kid Devil was sitting in a park in his civilian clothes totally human when a bunch of demons erupted out of the ground. The next time we see him is OYL and he is a tacky looking demon. So we don't yet know what happened.
By tacky I'm sure you mean hot.
ducklord
08-17-2006, 07:01 PM
Yes he was, but that still doesn't absolve him from being an atrocious character! He was awful!
I think he was awfully written. Conceptually, he's a concept that's not completely without merit. Consider the dramatic/whimsical possibilities of a Dr. Fate/Dr. Strange-level "sorceror supreme" type who's gay. Not just gay, but flamboyantly, outrageously, flamingly fabulously gay. Dead serious about protecting reality from the mystic menaces that threaten it, of course, but otherwise as queer as the proverbial three dollar bill.
Think "Rawhide Kid" with Ditkoesque finger-wiggling and better dialogue,
Mike.
dazzler_slave
08-18-2006, 08:50 AM
Actually we do, don't you remember taht weird beam he got hit with? We know that KD isn't a real demon but a mutation of sorts my guess is that beam mutated him
Oh yeah, that's right! So we know how but we don't know why yet.
dazzler_slave
08-18-2006, 08:52 AM
By tacky I'm sure you mean hot.
:eek: Damo darling! I think you could give X-Cres poster Beast a run for his money in the kinky department!
dazzler_slave
08-18-2006, 08:54 AM
I think he was awfully written. Conceptually, he's a concept that's not completely without merit. Consider the dramatic/whimsical possibilities of a Dr. Fate/Dr. Strange-level "sorceror supreme" type who's gay. Not just gay, but flamboyantly, outrageously, flamingly fabulously gay. Dead serious about protecting reality from the mystic menaces that threaten it, of course, but otherwise as queer as the proverbial three dollar bill.
Think "Rawhide Kid" with Ditkoesque finger-wiggling and better dialogue,
Mike.
See, if he had been written the way you describe it, then he would be better, but since he was written so badly, it makes him a horrible character. Plus I hate the name, and I hate the whole idea of the hemogoblin!
ducklord
08-18-2006, 10:30 AM
See, if he had been written the way you describe it, then he would be better, but since he was written so badly, it makes him a horrible character. Plus I hate the name, and I hate the whole idea of the hemogoblin!
Okay, the hemogoblin, not to mention most of the actual, y'know, content of the New Guardians book, was, politely, not good. While the high concept of the group was downright cool ("People from around the globe chosen by space gods to be the next step in mankind's evolution struggle to secure the future by protecting the present"), the group itself was such a HIDEOUS gathering of cultural stereotypes that it was often painful to read.
That's not to say that I'm in totally against characters who, at a glance, conform to broad stereotypes. There are flamboyant homosexuals and evil racist South Africans in the world, after all. But if your whole super-team is built around stereotypes, and the villains you fight are built around stereotypes, you wind up with less of an "enlightened millenial super-hero book," and more of a group like Adult Swim's "Minoriteam."
That said, Extrano's got wells, wells I tells ya, of untapped stories. Certainly more than that Bloodwind mort that some fans inexplicably keep clamoring for. Talk about being black and completely colorless at the same time...
Calling out Bloodwind,
Mike.
:eek: Damo darling! I think you could give X-Cres poster Beast a run for his money in the kinky department!
Oh, hon, no. He's got a bod most athletes would commit murder for, and a tendency to be all sad and introspective while the night air plays with his long long hair. And then he puts on a brave face on front of the others. How "Squeee!" can you get? Sure he's red, and has horns and a tail, but that's not very kinky. Now the gals that think that General Grievous is hot (and they do exist), now that's some serious kink right there.
Bill Angus
08-18-2006, 02:56 PM
I've always disliked Booster Gold and it irks me that he's getting so much play in 52.
I wasn't saddened to see Looker die in IC, as she was a pretty lame heroine - I especially loathed that costume she wore in her early days in Outsiders.
ETA: A link to the atrocity that is Alan Davis' ugliest design ever. I think someone bet him he couldn't come up with something uglier than Janet Van Dyne or Kitty Pryde's outfits:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Outsiders31.JPG
I don't know if anyone's covered this yet or not, but I'm pretty sure Looker was designed by Jim Aparo, not Alan Davis.
EDIT: And now that I've read the whole thread, I see that MWGallagher mentioned this around page 2... so never mind.
Jeremy A. Patterson
08-21-2006, 09:32 AM
I don't know if anyone's covered this yet or not, but I'm pretty sure Looker was designed by Jim Aparo, not Alan Davis.
EDIT: And now that I've read the whole thread, I see that MWGallagher mentioned this around page 2... so never mind.
Looker was not the only Jean Grey rip-off running around DC's books. Do any of you remember Kinetix from the post-Zero Hour reboot Legion?
J.A.P.
Loren
08-22-2006, 09:13 AM
Booster Gold, John Henry Irons AND his daughter, Ralph Dibny.
Ralph Dibny is John Henry Irons' daughter? Weirdest retcon ever. :)
And for what it's worth, Irons doesn't have a daughter. He has a niece.
Loren
08-22-2006, 09:23 AM
Extrano was brutal. He had every single stereotype for a gay male (he was very feminine, his clothes were on the verge of being drag, he wore a lot of tank tops, he had a neatly groomed mustache, he was over dramatic and bitchy etc.) To make matters worse, his code name translates to "Strange" or "Queer" in English.
Something tells me that was an unintentional consequence of basing the character on "Dr. Strange."
BigBoss
08-22-2006, 09:27 AM
I really cant stand wonderwoman.
Gozwald73
08-23-2006, 05:26 AM
Ralph Dibny is John Henry Irons' daughter? Weirdest retcon ever. :)
And for what it's worth, Irons doesn't have a daughter. He has a niece.
HAA HAA! Loren, you get a gold star for that one, I'm still wiping the tears from my eyes!
:D
Jeremy A. Patterson
08-23-2006, 10:34 AM
Hey, this is the WORST heroes thread, not the COOLEST HEROES EVER thread.
Long Live the Subs!
TV's Action League had similar heroes: The Flesh, Stinky Diver, & Melt Man!
J.A.P.
bugmenot
08-23-2006, 07:29 PM
Hawk and Dove, Dumb and Dumberer
Jeremy A. Patterson
08-24-2006, 10:03 AM
Hawk and Dove, Dumb and Dumberer
Which ones?
J.A.P.
dazzler_slave
08-24-2006, 11:49 AM
Hawk and Dove, Dumb and Dumberer
Hawk I and Dove I: Kinda lame, but still interesting
Hawk I & Dove II: Awesome! They had a great relationship, and their series was grossly underrated
Hawk II & Dove III: Very stupid. Glad they didn't last long
Hawk III & Dove II: They have potential. I'd like to see them again
I think the concept of Hawk & Dove is pretty cool. One embodies war and chaos, one embodies peace and order. They need to work together to accomplish their goals. What's dumb about that?
curefreak
08-24-2006, 11:52 AM
Hawk I and Dove I: Kinda lame, but still interesting
Hawk I & Dove II: Awesome! They had a great relationship, and their series was grossly underrated
Hawk II & Dove III: Very stupid. Glad they didn't last long
Hawk III & Dove II: They have potential. I'd like to see them again
I think the concept of Hawk & Dove is pretty cool. One embodies war and chaos, one embodies peace and order. They need to work together to accomplish their goals. What's dumb about that?
umm have you seen there costumes...
dazzler_slave
08-24-2006, 01:57 PM
umm have you seen there costumes...
umm, yeah, and I like their costumes
Hawk and Dove, worthless stupid concept and i don't miss em at all
Hawk and Dove II, same
John Stewart (comic): Hal Jordan's sidekick (damn shameful).
Vibe, nuff said
Superman (comic), His cartoon counterpart is a 100 times badder.
Dr.fate: Nothing but DR.strange's prototype and unlike strange he gets his a**-kicked a lot.
Hellstormer
08-26-2006, 08:28 AM
I swear to god if anyone says one more bad thing about Aquaman or Hawk & Dove I'l rip their small intestine out and give it back to them like a suppository
Sorry pal but Bloodwynd was a bad@ss.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodwynd
Now Peter CannonThunderbolt was a sucky character in tacky shorts.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Cannon..._Thunderbolt
Susan Beneville
08-26-2006, 07:27 PM
I swear to god if anyone says one more bad thing about Aquaman or Hawk & Dove I'l rip their small intestine out and give it back to them like a suppository
That's some serious passion about at least two really lame characters. (Get your hand off my intestine). I would agree that Aquaman doesn't belong on this list. The problem is when they take him out of the water and make him tag-along behind the JLA.
Hellstormer
08-26-2006, 08:01 PM
I don't like him on the JLA I like him as a solo, your intestine is safe...for now.
Captain Jim
08-27-2006, 05:59 PM
I swear to god if anyone says one more bad thing about Aquaman or Hawk & Dove I'l rip their small intestine out and give it back to them like a suppository
Uh, let's be a little less passionate, okay?
Hellstormer
08-27-2006, 07:23 PM
Uh, let's be a little less passionate, okay?
Hey I don't get into it unless people say a hearoes lame because of their costume or a crappy cartoon they saw as a child.
Gozwald73
08-27-2006, 11:52 PM
I swear to god if anyone says one more bad thing about Aquaman or Hawk & Dove I'l rip their small intestine out and give it back to them like a suppository
hee hee I like your style. Okay I'll help you out - let me know who's getting disemboweled and I'll throw in an eyeball stab.
Ahhh... you, me and Lobo. What a team.
:D
Captain Jim
08-28-2006, 08:57 AM
Okay, this has degenerated far enough. Let's move on to something else.
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