New X-Men...whats to be done with the others.

[Zombienorthstar]

Doubtless, aside from the seven that make up the main New X-Men roster there are some great characters who have now slunk to the background. What should be done with them?

Some people have suggested they form a juniour varsity squad....Who likes this idea....who should be on it?


Let the general discussion about the New X-Men background characters commence

Background characters: Anole, Match, Wolfcub, Indra, Stepford Cukoos, Nezhno, Onyxx, Bling, Trance, Pixie, Loa, Ernst, No Girl, Hisako, Blindfold,

[Brian M.]

Everyone of them will get an issue dedicated to them I heard. I heard also that in each issue focusing on each student they will Get a Bullet in their Heads


Should be fun.

[rilokyle]

You know who I'm really interested in? Ernst. Like, that whole thing needs to be cleared up. In Morrison's run, during "Here Comes Tomorrow" and "Planet X" we discovered that Ernst + Martha, the floating brain, was Cassandra Nova, right? But now we have an Ernst running around, AND a Cassandra Nova running around now. I think this needs to be cleared up once and for all.

As for the other students, I'd like to see more use of the Stepford Cukoos, because I find them interesting and fun. I guess they'll get the spotlight with Phoenix: Warsong, but I'd like to see them in a school enviornment too.

[Faded]

Honestly, there aren't really that many left that really interest me anymore. They kinda killed off a lot of the student body I was interested in. :o

I'd rather just see most of them jump into the main squad down the line, with Anole, Loa, and Trance at the head of the pack. :)

Just say no to Onyxx. ;)

[Blackcat]

There are now 26 students of which 7 are on a squad. Let's devide the others in 3 squads again and give each squad some extra spotlights in the X-books.

[Vaal]

I'm not really sure what all can be done with Loa powers-wise. She's almost as inherently destructive as Wither.

[Affinity]

Bling!

UT, are you serious?

[Brian M.]

Bling!

UT, are you serious?

Yes.

New X-Men #31

Writer: Micheal Jackson
Art: Splashed on by R. Kelly.
I'm joking

[Zombienorthstar]

I'm not really sure what all can be done with Loa powers-wise. She's almost as inherently destructive as Wither.


Well as long as she doesnt phase through people shes fine.

[Bobster777]

Honestly, there aren't really that many left that really interest me anymore. They kinda killed off a lot of the student body I was interested in. :o

I'd rather just see most of them jump into the main squad down the line, with Anole, Loa, and Trance at the head of the pack. :)

Just say no to Onyxx. ;)

Yeah, they really made it where it's hard to care about the other students.

[chickrockguitar]

Uhm.. who is "No Girl"?

[Affinity]

No Girl wasn't real, was she? I thought the...special *ahem* class was just messing with Xorn?

[Vaal]

No-girl is Martha, Ms. Brain-in-a-jar.

[AceOfSpades]

I really want an Indra/Anole thing explored:D

And I love the stepfied Cuckoos

[Affinity]

No-girl is Martha, Ms. Brain-in-a-jar.
Ohh.

I like her, even if there's really nothing to like.

[Hi-Fi]

I want Preview back.
I want more Loa/Trance/Match/Pixie/Anole
I want to see Blindfold more proeminent in this book if she survives Astonishing. The same goes to Hisako.

[Volk1]

The rest of the kids should split into two groups. 27 kids survived Decimation. 2 have died so far - Wallflower and Quill.

That leaves us with 25 kids - 7 on the main squad.

That leaves us with 18 kids. 2 groups of 9 with Anole and Match as team leaders. (Not including Quentin Quire)


I also want to see more Trance, Loa, and Nezhno. Blindfold and Hisako too if/when Whedon lets them go.

These are my teams:
Anole
Indra
Cuckoo
Cuckoo
Cuckoo
Ernst
Martha
Hisako (Needs a codename)
Blindfold

Match
Quentin Quire (Back in his old body somehow)
Loa
Trance
Bling!
Onyxx
Nezhno
Pixie


Wolf Cub (dies)
Wither (Want him on main squad)
Icarus (want him on main squad)

I want Preview back.You would think it's obvious I would want this but at this stage I want her completely out of what's going on right now in the book. The longer she stays away from all this carnage, the better. I want her to come back in an arc that would dedicate time for a sweet return story, be it just herself or with other kids gaining their power back. So, just let her sit on the sidelines for now is what I'm saying....I can hold out...:)

[Affinity]

How do you pronounce Anole?

I say "Ah-no-lee" but that sounds weird, like guacamole (which is goo-waa-kah-mo-lee, right?).

[Affinity]

Wow. Double post, grrr.

[Vaal]

You would think it's obvious I would want this but at this stage I want her completely out of what's going on right now in the book. The longer she stays away from all this carnage, the better. I want her to come back in an arc that would dedicate time for a sweet return story, be it just herself or with other kids gaining their power back. So, just let her sit on the sidelines for now is what I'm saying....I can hold out...:)
We require Wanda punching the walls of reality again.

[Hi-Fi]

How do you pronounce Anole?

I say "Ah-no-lee" but that sounds weird, like guacamole (which is goo-waa-kah-mo-lee, right?).

I pronounce it exactly like that.:)

[Hi-Fi]

You would think it's obvious I would want this but at this stage I want her completely out of what's going on right now in the book. The longer she stays away from all this carnage, the better. I want her to come back in an arc that would dedicate time for a sweet return story, be it just herself or with other kids gaining their power back. So, just let her sit on the sidelines for now is what I'm saying....I can hold out...:)

No! Don't give up now, Volk! We're almost convincing them, man!

[Fatguy]

Writer: Micheal Jackson
Art: Splashed on by R. Kelly.

lol gross.

[xgeek52]

take a page from the past...some stayed, some died and some became part of a team...

it depends on who marvels want to boost the sales..:cool:

[Affinity]

I think Surge, Hellion, and X-23 are the characters that they won't change around too much. Josh, Cessily, Rockslide, and Sooraya may be susceptible to whatever Chris and Craig want. Hell, Josh is pitch black now...

And the other 18 kids have huge bullseyes on them.

Which reminds me, did Wallflower ever get confirmed as powered or depowered? I keep on forgetting.

[Faded]

EDIT: It did show up, it did!

[Faded]

Okay I like posted like three times and each time it said I wasn't logged in so now I'm mighty mad. GRRR!

Oh anyway, I want Preview, Sofia, Tag, Dryad, Wallflower, Specter, Slick, and Tattoo back. Oh and Angel and Beak.

I don't care for Onyxx, Match, Wolf Cub, Pixie, Martha or Ernst.

In retrospect I could do without the squad system-- a large, but not too large student body would work for me.

I'd have Kid Omega and Wither as villains.

Uhhh....I'd have a hot Tag and Anole kissing scene. ;)

[chickrockguitar]

How do you pronounce Anole?

I say "Ah-no-lee" but that sounds weird, like guacamole (which is goo-waa-kah-mo-lee, right?).I pronounce it like "Ah-Nole" *shrugs*

[Nobbel]

I pronounce it like "Ah-Nole" *shrugs*

Me too, I think it's the right way to pronounce his name

[Zengei]

How do you pronounce Anole?

I say "Ah-no-lee" but that sounds weird, like guacamole (which is goo-waa-kah-mo-lee, right?).
That's right, just click the sound icon to hear the proper pronounciation: http://www.webster.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?sourceid=Mozilla-search&va=anole

[Nobbel]

If you wanna know what the future holds for them, why don't you guys ask Joe at Fridays on the future-plans of the other students?

[Affinity]

He'll probably just say "Oh, Chris and Craig have some wonderful stuff for these kids. The end of this arc will be a BLAST that you'll never forget, and Year Two promises some very hardcore stories."

I hate answers like that.

[Oracle]

Laurie (Wallflower) was powered. If she weren't, why would Stryker want to target her? After all, his records, even after M-Day, showed that it would have been Wallflower before Dust to have taken down his soldiers during their strike.

[riotgear]

I still say that this is all part of the Danger Room sequence set up at the beginning of C&C's run, remember that? They made a big deal about it, and then it was dropped very quickly, almost forgotten about. The end of this is going to be the team that "survives" will be the premiere squad.

[RH_Duncan]

I still say that this is all part of the Danger Room sequence set up at the beginning of C&C's run, remember that? They made a big deal about it, and then it was dropped very quickly, almost forgotten about. The end of this is going to be the team that "survives" will be the premiere squad.
I don't think they will do that. I remember the serie Dallas pulling a stunt like that in the 80's. A whole year nebver actually happened because of 'a dream'. This costed them half of their vievers and that stunt was never pulled again. If we as fans would be reading this series for a year, what afterwards is gonna be an exirsize, many fans will drop the book 4 sure. We should ask Joe!

I do not understand why u used spoiler tags, it's your guess, it doesnt include a single spoiler.

[Faded]

Finny is right, Joe won't say a thing.

I like riotgear's theory--its consequences have more weight than it being all a dream. They'll still be traumatized and my babes (hopefully) would be back.

[riotgear]

I don't think they will do that. I remember the serie Dallas pulling a stunt like that in the 80's. A whole year nebver actually happened because of 'a dream'. This costed them half of their vievers and that stunt was never pulled again. If we as fans would be reading this series for a year, what afterwards is gonna be an exirsize, many fans will drop the book 4 sure. We should ask Joe!

I do not understand why u used spoiler tags, it's your guess, it doesnt include a single spoiler.

I'm not talking about it being a dream. I'm talking about it either being
a) part of the training scenario that Emma had set up, where any of the students who "died" are actually "out" of the team. Do you really think that Emma would have something as simple as "last man standing" to determine. C'mon, she's a master manipulator.
or

b) the program that David "Prodigy" Allerdyce started is still running amok, and they don't realize they haven't left the Danger Room.

The reason why I put them in spoilers are that even though they are just theories, I have a good confidence that I am right. I figured out that Cable was Nathan Summers after reading X-Factor #69, and figured out that Bastion was Master Mold and Nimrod pretty much right off the bat. So, I'm putting it like that so that people that don't want to read theories have the choice. I like to err on the caution.

[Bobster777]

I'm not talking about it being a dream. I'm talking about it either being
a) part of the training scenario that Emma had set up, where any of the students who "died" are actually "out" of the team. Do you really think that Emma would have something as simple as "last man standing" to determine. C'mon, she's a master manipulator.
or

b) the program that David "Prodigy" Allerdyce started is still running amok, and they don't realize they haven't left the Danger Room.

The reason why I put them in spoilers are that even though they are just theories, I have a good confidence that I am right. I figured out that Cable was Nathan Summers after reading X-Factor #69, and figured out that Bastion was Master Mold and Nimrod pretty much right off the bat. So, I'm putting it like that so that people that don't want to read theories have the choice. I like to err on the caution.

There are just too many sequences already, like Nimrod going back to Forge and O.N.E carrying out all the prisoners, for everything that happened just to be a danger room scenario. It's not totally impossible like you said, but more likely than not, what has happened has really happened.

[Volk1]

No! Don't give up now, Volk! We're almost convincing them, man!
*sigh* I know Hi-Fi.....I just don't want her to get hurt when she comes back!:(

[Affinity]

Was Jessica on the bus, Volk?

[Taskmaster]

Whatever happened to Prodigy, he was the best character in the book before and I'm hopping he's not dead

[Faded]

David is back at the school. Depowered, but at least not dead. :)

[Hi-Fi]

Was Jessica on the bus, Volk?

No, she wasn't!! She's safe at home.:)

[riotgear]

There are just too many sequences already, like Nimrod going back to Forge and O.N.E carrying out all the prisoners, for everything that happened just to be a danger room scenario. It's not totally impossible like you said, but more likely than not, what has happened has really happened.

So far I haven't seen anything outside of the Danger Room's capabilities, especially if Forge is helping Emma control the sequence (which could explain the relevance to Forge in the storyline). Wouldn't it be cool to see him become the team's new trainer?

[Affinity]

Oh! That's really good! Was she depowered, though?

[Yusaku Jon III]

David is back at the school. Depowered, but at least not dead. :)And he has a big bullseye on his back, if what I read in one of the panels of "Crusade" is correct.

[Faded]

Oh! That's really good! Was she depowered, though?

Preview? Supposedly, but not definitely. ;)

But then again, they could write in the book "PREVIEW aka JESSICA "JESSIE" VALE WAS DEPOWERED BY WANDA" and my answer would go unchanged. :cool:

[Affinity]

Lol of course. I wouldn't expect any other answer.

If its not definite and there is a DEMAND for the character, then there is no reason not to bring her back. Besides, I don't think they HAVE 18 characters to fill up the slots of non mainstream students.

[Volk1]

Was Jessica on the bus, Volk?

Hell no Finny! Before the Decimation wave hit, she had a massive yet vague premonition, her biggest one yet. She saw breif glimpses of her friends dying, a bus on fire, and a missle. After HoM, she said "I need to get the hell out of here." Unfortunately her sister Sarah always had to do the opposite of what she did so she stayed and well...R.I.P. lol

Being serious though, I hope she's not really blind, but I can see how that she really could be. It all depends really. It's just something that bothers you when you like the 4th stringers (for some reason or another) and you don't know why it bothers you so much that they aren't starring but yet, you completely understand why they're not - because they're 4th stringers!:p

Ask Faded about Wicked (I think it is) or Hi-Fi - hell, anybody who's ever Heart'ed an obscure character and you'll get the same passionate yet angry response! But that's the love!

[HellFrost]

I think the remaining students should follow the mysterious "DSL" character who will be later revealed as Emma and Scotts son from the distant past... yes past... and they will wear very ugly costumes and be very very violent for no reason at all.:) Lol.

Actually, I think that the Cuckoos, Match, Hisako, Anole, Trance, Wolf Cub, and Indra should actually stay at the mansion and act as reserve New X-men. Each character represents someone else from the original New Mutants;
Cuckoos- Moonstar/Karma
Match-Magma
Hisako-Cannonball
Anole-...ummm... I don't know... maybe Cypher if they make him really smart
Trance-Magik (Trance needs to have her power explored more. Although I'd probably give her psionic damage instead of energy since Astral Forms are psionic entities of yourself)
Wolf Cub-Wolfsbane
Indra- Sunspot (but let's not make him gay... please... too many deformed gay mutants and other characters...

Anyway, I think it would be an interesting approach to take these students in.:)

[Zombienorthstar]

Hey guys i sent Chris Yost a message and graciously he replied to a few of my questions


Thanks for the kind words. We understand that for a lot of people, the transition was (and still is) rough, to say the least. We hope people hang in there, though - so much great stuff is coming.

1) What are Nezhno's powers and will they have any effect on the plot?

Nezhno will be seen again in 29, and you'll learn a little more about his background. His powers won't be a story unto themselves, but it's going to come up, and will be an issue. There's a reason Emma excused him from the infamous free for all.

2) Is there a more reflective less action orientated arc in the works?

There will be some time to reflect in 32, then things get a little crazy again. Although the arc will have a little more room to breathe than the NEXT one.

3) What (if anything) can you tell me about your plans for my favourite character Anole? He is well loved on the boards.

Anole shows up in 29 and 30, and then again after Nimrod. We like Anole, too, and will be seeing more of the other students next year/after Nimrod.

Thanks for reading!!

C



This clearly indicates to me that Anole is there to stay. HOORAH! I like the direction of the book overall...and im encouraged by Mr Yost's reply.

Comments?

[Sentinel K]

Sounds pretty cool.

New X-Men is now one of the first titles I read when it comes out.

I loves it.

[Hi-Fi]

Sounds pretty cool.

New X-Men is now one of the first titles I read when it comes out.

I loves it.

Oh, you're such a girl.

[Sentinel K]

Oh, you're such a girl.

What's your point?

[Hi-Fi]

What's your point?

er...hum...well...

*runs like a little girl*

[Faded]

Good answers. He seems so nice I feel bad for bashing his book so much. :o

[HellFrost]

Good answers. He seems so nice I feel bad for bashing his book so much. :o
Me two... But I still don't like the killing of students. I just don't see the point even if it is to make a statement of some kind..........

And they should really stop writing Emma so evily... I can't stress that enough... also, it's Joss' job.

[Faded]

Me two... But I still don't like the killing of students. I just don't see the point even if it is to make a statement of some kind..........

And they should really stop writing Emma so evily... I can't stress that enough... also, it's Joss' job.

Agreed. The bus was bad enough, then it was Laurie, then it was Quill...(and the latter two were [.....]). And the treatment of the X-Men is...very disappointing.

BUT I liked the last issue despite Quill's death...errr yeah. :o

But I'm off-topic!

Anyway, I remember reading on UXN.net's forum that Specter and Kidogo weren't on the bus, so it'd be interesting to see them and Preview and Sofia again! :D

[shaunyc56]

My man David is still alive and still trying to figure out what was going on. The only one who thought these guys felt like they had advanced knowledge. Even took a bullet for my other favorite New Xmen the Cuckoos. I really thought he was gonna bite it in this. I either want David to get his powers of some sort of training, because I don't see him able to participate on a squad w/o them, not in an Xbook anyway.

[Zombienorthstar]

My man David is still alive and still trying to figure out what was going on. The only one who thought these guys felt like they had advanced knowledge. Even took a bullet for my other favorite New Xmen the Cuckoos. I really thought he was gonna bite it in this. I either want David to get his powers of some sort of training, because I don't see him able to participate on a squad w/o them, not in an Xbook anyway.


I think id like to see David graduate out to another part of the marvel universe...hes still like freakishly intelligent...maybe have him as an intern at She Hulk's law firm...would love that.

[Citizen V]

I would not be suprised if the other characters were simply forgotten,it seems to be how the X-Writers save space.

[Citizen V]

Or the characters that wont be used,can simply go to another book.Im sure there is enough space somewhere.

[Quarterwolf]

I have said this before and I will say it again. The book should be like the Legion of X-Men. They should pull in members as they are needed for the story and not just focus on a team of 7 when there are 20 other great characters waiting to be tapped.

[Stagier]

there are more than 7 powered students in teh book so maybe that just might happen. unless the keep killing the kids.

[Vaal]

I would not be suprised if the other characters were simply forgotten,it seems to be how the X-Writers save space.
Not in this book apperently.

Limbo? Whats that? When we don't want characters, we just kill them as graphically and gratuitously as possible. I mean its not like other writers could do something with them, right?

[Deus ex Chris]

Limbo? Whats that? When we don't want characters, we just kill them as graphically and gratuitously as possible. I mean its not like other writers could do something with them, right?
Yes, because it's so much better for characters to go unused for years at a time rather than service a story. Get over it, people.

[X-Factor]

Yes, because it's so much better for characters to go unused for years at a time rather than service a story. Get over it, people.

No, YOU get over it.

[Deus ex Chris]

No, YOU get over it.
Nothing for me to get over. I'm perfectly fine with writers using characters to further the story.

[X-Factor]

Nothing for me to get over. I'm perfectly fine with writers using characters to further the story.

Get over people not being over it! :p

[Deus ex Chris]

Get over people not being over it! :p
Well, aren't you clever. ;)

[X-Factor]

Well, aren't you clever. ;)

heheh =D

okay I'll stop spamming

[Vaal]

Yes, because it's so much better for characters to go unused for years at a time rather than service a story. Get over it, people.
Random death #25 is not servicing a plot.

[Dazzler]

Random death #25 is not servicing a plot.


you could not be more correct.

--Dazz

[Deus ex Chris]

Random death #25 is not servicing a plot.
The deaths are part of the plot, so, yes, they are servicing the plot. BTW, I actually said they were servicing the story. There's a difference between the two, but the deaths are servicing them both.

[Zombienorthstar]

The deaths are part of the plot, so, yes, they are servicing the plot. BTW, I actually said they were servicing the story. There's a difference between the two, but the deaths are servicing them both.


The deaths are there to establish the tone of the book...these kids have been placed in a dangerous new world...it wouldnt work if they were all Tralalala all my friends are alive.

[Faded]

The deaths are there to establish the tone of the book...these kids have been placed in a dangerous new world...it wouldnt work if they were all Tralalala all my friends are alive.

The "tone" was set a while back though. From my POV, they have become random--especially Quill's.

Now...if they are trying to emphasize the death to later bring on the life, then hey...:D

High on life, people. High on life. ;)

[Vaal]

The deaths are there to establish the tone of the book...these kids have been placed in a dangerous new world...it wouldnt work if they were all Tralalala all my friends are alive.
So the deaths are there as a cheap device to effect a bad change in tone. Whoopee.

[Deus ex Chris]

So the deaths are there as a cheap device to effect a bad change in tone. Whoopee.
It may seem cheap to you, but the writing team said that they wanted to put their cast through the ringer, and I'd say killing everyone around them is a means of doing that.

[Zombienorthstar]

It may seem cheap to you, but the writing team said that they wanted to put their cast through the ringer, and I'd say killing everyone around them is a means of doing that.

Exactly how can you justify the change in the New X-Men's attitude if they havent any reason too...the deaths are necessary...

[Foley]

I would be surpised if the book didn't end up with the "New X-men" x-forcing it out on their own. If I were a student and my teachers couldn't keep 50% of our class alive, I think I would be looking at my options. By the way, they really need to get the 198 out of Xavier's. they just get in the way. I mean, I was bothered that they weren't shown fighting Stryker's group. Its a really annoying piece of continuity thats been bothering my enjoyment of other X-stories.

[Mariah]

I would be surpised if the book didn't end up with the "New X-men" x-forcing it out on their own. If I were a student and my teachers couldn't keep 50% of our class alive, I think I would be looking at my options. By the way, they really need to get the 198 out of Xavier's. they just get in the way. I mean, I was bothered that they weren't shown fighting Stryker's group. Its a really annoying piece of continuity thats been bothering my enjoyment of other X-stories.
Well, I guess dying is slightly more extreme:rolleyes: than how my graduating class thinned out. Half the girls in my school got pregnant. But, I would like to see an issue where someone doesn't die, and see them perhaps deal with losing all their other friends, and then I can tell if I'm going to like their new direction. So far, I'm not.