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Citizen V
06-24-2006, 06:18 PM
Since the comic industry is so established and old,some of the works have been put into a Trade Paper Back.But sometimes certain TPB`s go out of print,or are old works.Some fans want to collect them,because they were a good run.I know both Marvel and DC has some.

This is the thread to talk about Old or Out of Print TPB`s,because i can imagine people have questions about them,or want to know about them.Im wondering if there is a list out there that shows every TPB ever made.

I know Uncanny X-Men and Nightwing has them,is there any others?

glue
06-24-2006, 06:25 PM
Aren't the second and third THOR VISIONARIES from Simmonson's run OOP?

Those are the only two I'm aware of because I really want them.

shaxper
06-24-2006, 06:44 PM
Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow is out of print. I believe both issues are included in the new "DCU Stories of Alan Moore" trade though. Since the two tpbs look to have been of comprable price and the Moore tpb contains a lot more stories, I'm wondering if it's missing any of the content from the original Man of Tomorrow tpb that's worth seeing.

Aaron Kashtan
06-24-2006, 07:15 PM
Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow is out of print. I believe both issues are included in the new "DCU Stories of Alan Moore" trade though. Since the two tpbs look to have been of comprable price and the Moore tpb contains a lot more stories, I'm wondering if it's missing any of the content from the original Man of Tomorrow tpb that's worth seeing.

I think it's missing the introductory text page, the one that ends "This is an imaginary story... aren't they all?" This page was included in the previous TPB, but if I recall correctly, it was controversially left out of the newer one.

shaxper
06-24-2006, 08:24 PM
I think it's missing the introductory text page, the one that ends "This is an imaginary story... aren't they all?" This page was included in the previous TPB, but if I recall correctly, it was controversially left out of the newer one.

That sounds right. Did the introduction exist in the original comics or just the tpb?

dan bailey
06-25-2006, 08:50 AM
it's in the original comic -- superman 423.

shaxper
06-25-2006, 08:56 AM
it's in the original comic -- superman 423.

Thanks. I went online and ordered it today. Believe it or not, I found the original issues cheaper than the tpbs.

John Aston
06-25-2006, 10:19 AM
Speaking of Thor, Dan Jurgens' Asgard over N.Y. story arcs are out of print and fetch serious cash on ebay. I competed for the first two trades from that portion of his run and got my butt smoked with the auction closing a little of $50.

scratchie
06-25-2006, 11:37 AM
Thanks. I went online and ordered it today. Believe it or not, I found the original issues cheaper than the tpbs.That's not uncommon. I just found Barry Windsor-Smith's Machine Man mini for $1.00 an issue ("NM"), whereas the (presumably OOP) TPB would cost me almost $17.00!

Another semi-obscure TPB is the Captain America one that wraps up the original Deathlok storyline (issues 286-288). Again, I think it would be cheaper to find the original issues.

And of course, my favorite dead horse whipping boy is the lousy, lousy, lousy color repro in many Marvel TPBs (if you're lucky, it's only the color which is messed up, if you're unlucky, you get The Life and Death of Captain Marvel, which looks like it was shot from second- or third-generation copies of the original artwork before it was poorly colored). Just one more reason to seek out the originals if cost permits.

In terms of lists of OOP TPBs, GCD lists many, and Mile High Comics stocks many of them as well (that's where I saw the $17.00 price tag on the Machine Man book).

glue
06-25-2006, 11:44 AM
Speaking of Thor, Dan Jurgens' Asgard over N.Y. story arcs are out of print and fetch serious cash on ebay. I competed for the first two trades from that portion of his run and got my butt smoked with the auction closing a little of $50.


Are the back issues that costly too?

MazingMan728
06-25-2006, 11:52 AM
IF all rights, etc...can be worked out I would like to see the Miracleman TPBs back in print as well as the first Elementals TPB and the Crow TPB.

Reptisaurus!
06-25-2006, 02:06 PM
Speaking of Thor, Dan Jurgens' Asgard over N.Y. story arcs are out of print and fetch serious cash on ebay. I competed for the first two trades from that portion of his run and got my butt smoked with the auction closing a little of $50.

That happens quite a bit, actually.

While it's cool that Marvel is reprinting everything in trades, a bunch of them have tiny little single print runs. Meaning there are a LOT fewer trades out there than original issues. An' then supply and demand kicks in.

Darkwave
06-25-2006, 04:03 PM
These are pretty recent, but I'd love to get the first trade of Onslaught and the first trade of Cable and Deadpool. Both are just about impossible to find.

isaac a person
06-25-2006, 04:11 PM
To maximize funds I usually only buy trades for the lower profile books at full price. Most of the bigger titles (New Avengers, etc) will eventually show up at half-price books.

Gingold
06-25-2006, 07:17 PM
A lot of cool trades aren't in print anymore. Marvel releases a lot of great collections these days, but it's a shame so many of their older tpbs are OOP. The first Captain Britain collection that Marvel issued back in 1987 or so, by Jamie Delano and Alan Davis was great, and my copy is really falling apart, so I'd love for them to reissue it. Shouldn't the Stern/Byrne "War and Rememberance" Captain America story be in TPB in perpetuity? or Longshot? or the New Mutants "Demon Bear" saga? Wasn't there a collection of the Marvel-Two-In-One Project Peagus Saga at some point?

DC's original series of Greatest Stories were much better than their current offerings and should've stayed in print. I'm glad to see "Son of the Demon" is coming back into print soon.

Agentum
06-26-2006, 08:25 AM
I bought an older Kirbys New Gods, cheap but in B&W, was the DC trade of this series never in color?

scratchie
06-26-2006, 09:14 AM
I bought an older Kirbys New Gods, cheap but in B&W, was the DC trade of this series never in color?No it wasn't, unfortunately. Jimmy Olsen is the only Fourth World series that's had a color reprint, as far as I know. I bought the b&w reprints of New Gods and Mister Miracle but couldn't get past the greyscale used to "color" them. I would have liked them better if they were pure black & white. Fortunately, reader copies of these series are not too expensive.

Strannik
06-26-2006, 12:23 PM
Since the comic industry is so established and old,some of the works have been put into a Trade Paper Back.But sometimes certain TPB`s go out of print,or are old works.Some fans want to collect them,because they were a good run.I know both Marvel and DC has some.

This is the thread to talk about Old or Out of Print TPB`s,because i can imagine people have questions about them,or want to know about them.Im wondering if there is a list out there that shows every TPB ever made.



This (http://tplist.millarworld.net/index.html)is the closest thing to the list of every trade paperback ever released.

As for series out of print, I really wish 2000 A.D. would reprint Zenith trades, which are nearly impossible to find. I heard that there were some legal issues involved, though I am not sure what they are, exactly.

shaxper
06-26-2006, 01:52 PM
I'm trying to pick up the old out of print Bone tpbs. The new ones are cheaper, but I prefer the original size and I think the coloring, while nice looking, takes away from the art in some ways. Thorn, in particular, just doesn't look right in color. I wish they'd bring the old editions back.

Citizen V
06-26-2006, 04:55 PM
Its a shame that there is not a website that specializes in selling or trading of old/out of print TPB`s.I did find one though..

scratchie
06-26-2006, 05:58 PM
This site specializes in trading TPBs:

http://www.sequentialswap.com/

It's not dedicated to out-of-print books specifically, but you might find some there.

For sales, try ebay or Mile High Comics.

Agentum
06-27-2006, 01:00 AM
No it wasn't, unfortunately. Jimmy Olsen is the only Fourth World series that's had a color reprint, as far as I know. I bought the b&w reprints of New Gods and Mister Miracle but couldn't get past the greyscale used to "color" them. I would have liked them better if they were pure black & white. Fortunately, reader copies of these series are not too expensive.
What a waste, i like this series but as you say, the greyscales make it worse than if it was only in B&W.

matewan1990
06-29-2006, 08:29 AM
What a waste, i like this series but as you say, the greyscales make it worse than if it was only in B&W.

If you think that was bad, try the Lady Rawhide trade paperback from Image that reprints the Lady Rawhide series from Topps Comics. It was done in black and white and the pages are so dark and muddy that you can't make out what is happening - at all. This trade paperback is the worst I've ever seen (with Dynamic Forces' Battle of the Planets Whitman/Gold Key reprint trade paperback coming in at a close second). It's out of print and probably will stay out of print.
If you read the comics, the story is great. But, don't waste your money on the trade. It's terrible because of the poor print job.
I could do a better job on a xerox copier.
Mike B.

Citizen V
08-08-2006, 04:23 PM
This was something that i actually thought about recently.I bought the Essential Fantastic Four Vol.1.Which is from 1962 i belive,a thought came to me.

What is the oldest comic collection in TPB format?Marvel has its origins in the 1960`s by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby.But what about DC?It has its origins in the 1930`s,are there any TPB`s of work from that era?

In other words,are there any PB`s of Golden Age works?

spoon_jenkins
08-08-2006, 04:45 PM
This was something that i actually thought about recently.I bought the Essential Fantastic Four Vol.1.Which is from 1962 i belive,a thought came to me.

What is the oldest comic collection in TPB format?Marvel has its origins in the 1960`s by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby.But what about DC?It has its origins in the 1930`s,are there any TPB`s of work from that era?

In other words,are there any PB`s of Golden Age works?
Yup, there are Superman Chronicles and Batman Chronicles TPBs reprinting Golden Age stuff. And of course, DC has plenty of Golden Age stuff in hardcover format through its Archives line.

Aaron Kashtan
08-08-2006, 07:48 PM
This was something that i actually thought about recently.I bought the Essential Fantastic Four Vol.1.Which is from 1962 i belive,a thought came to me.

What is the oldest comic collection in TPB format?Marvel has its origins in the 1960`s by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby.But what about DC?It has its origins in the 1930`s,are there any TPB`s of work from that era?

In other words,are there any PB`s of Golden Age works?

Yes. There are actually TPB collections of Golden Age Marvel comics-- the company was founded by Martin Goodman in the 1930s, though it wasn't called Marvel at that time.

As for the absolute oldest comics collected in TPB format, it depends on how you define the terms. Rodolphe Topffer (http://leonardodesa.interdinamica.net/comics/lds/vb/VieuxBois00.asp?p=Intro) is widely considered to have invented the modern comics medium in the 1820s. This publication (http://www.fumetti.org/afnews/2003/02/topffer/imagepages/image3.htm) is a reprint of a book of his which dates from 1842, although I don't know if it's in TPB format. Another candidate is this book (http://www.milehighcomics.com/comicindex/trade-paperback/title/Title-YELLOW-KID-TPB--1995--by-Kitchen-Sink.html), which reprints comics from the 1890s.

gentlesatirist
08-09-2006, 07:18 AM
...as a kid were the Batman : from the 30s to the 70s and Shazam : from the 40s to the 70s hardback collections that came out around 1976/77. These ran avout 300 pages and were beautiful hardback collections, mostly in black-n-white, but with a handful of stories in color on glossy paper.

Publishers also did similar vlumes for Superman and Wonder Woman.

These had an amazing impact on me, as far as seeing these characters (especially Batman) evolve over time. They had a lot to do with me still being a comics fan today at age 35.


- FE

Aaron King
08-09-2006, 09:48 PM
I found a cool TPB of Lone Wolf & Cub published by First Comics in a used bookstore for six bucks the other day. I'm not into any Japanese comics, but c'mon, it was six bucks. I think this is the same material that Dark Horse is releasing in digest size, but this was full size and, oddly enough, had a slipcover. The cover art was by Frank Miller with colors by Bill Sienkiwicz, which is probably worth six bucks by itself.

Citizen V
04-07-2007, 06:46 PM
Ive recently checked out the Superman and Green Lantern Showcase volumes.The stories are dated from the 1950`s,are these the oldest stories to be re-printed?

Aaron Kashtan
04-07-2007, 06:58 PM
Ive recently checked out the Superman and Green Lantern Showcase volumes.The stories are dated from the 1950`s,are these the oldest stories to be re-printed?

I don't understand the question. Are you asking if those are the oldest stories reprinted in the Showcase format, or if they're the oldest stories reprinted anywhere?

If the latter is what you're asking, then the answer is no. The University Press of Mississippi is about to publish a collection of Rodolphe Topffer's comics (http://www.publishersweekly.com/article/CA6428245.html), which date back to 1833.

shaxper
04-09-2007, 07:16 AM
I'm upset that the hardcover TPs of Planetary were just taken out of print now that the Absolute edition is coming out. I don't want the frickin' Absolute edition. Its size makes it awkward to hold when reading and difficult to carry with you, I can't fit it on my TP bookshelves, and it costs way more than the old $15 hardbacks. The day Amazon announced that they were discontinued (they'd been on my Amazon Wishlist) the prices for used copies climbed like crazy and the ebay prices were absolutely absurd.

Not everyone likes Absolute and Omnibus editions!!

Kirk G
04-09-2007, 09:16 PM
I'm still trying to find the name of the paperback book from the late 60s or early 70s, that features a collapsed US Astronaut laying back against a rock with a shattered view plate...(obviously dead from lack of oxygen or a meteor impact on the helmut) with either a thummbs up sign, or the earth reflection in the cracked faceplate.

Rob Allen
04-10-2007, 06:16 PM
I'm still trying to find the name of the paperback book from the late 60s or early 70s, that features a collapsed US Astronaut laying back against a rock with a shattered view plate...(obviously dead from lack of oxygen or a meteor impact on the helmut) with either a thummbs up sign, or the earth reflection in the cracked faceplate.

Are you sure it was a paperback? I seem to recall a similar scene on the cover of an underground comic - an issue of Slow Death, maybe?

MDG
04-11-2007, 05:41 AM
Now that you mention undergrounds, maybe the back cover of Rich Corben's Anomaly #4...

Citizen V
04-13-2007, 06:19 PM
Is there any paperbacks of the Golden Age?As in comics from 1938-1949?Or is that impossible?Due to various reasons.

Kirk G
04-13-2007, 06:30 PM
Are you sure it was a paperback? I seem to recall a similar scene on the cover of an underground comic - an issue of Slow Death, maybe?

If it ever appeared as a comic book, I'd be surprised...but it's possible.
I believe it was a full color (photograph) on the front of a paperback book, probably after 1969's moon landing....

A couple of people have suggested that they had seen it...and it seems to be familiar to me.
Someone thought it was the final image of the movie "Space Cowboys" but it's similar though....

Kirk G
04-13-2007, 06:32 PM
This was something that i actually thought about recently.I bought the Essential Fantastic Four Vol.1.Which is from 1962 i belive,a thought came to me.

What is the oldest comic collection in TPB format?Marvel has its origins in the 1960`s by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby.But what about DC?It has its origins in the 1930`s,are there any TPB`s of work from that era?

In other words,are there any PB`s of Golden Age works?

Uh, pocket books put out collections (issues #4, 5, 6 of the FF) of early Marvel comics...including The Hulk, FF, Thor and Spidey. They were black and white page reprints, not really TBPs... but do they count?