Young Avengers: News and Speculation

[Peter F.]

Have I gone crazy? Is this some actual proof that this series is moving forward?

Still no official announcement though. We don't really have any idea of when to expect to see any new issues. I'd guess maybe February or March.

I'll believe it when I have the issue in my hands.

[CaptainCanada]

They'd have announced if it was that close at hand, I suspect; I'd aim more towards the summer.

[Peter F.]

They'd have announced if it was that close at hand, I suspect; I'd aim more towards the summer.

True. A little disappointing. But I am still very excited. It's actually happening, and that's great news.

Thanks for the link by the way.

[samhalliwell]

Oh, man :eek:

A piece of a script from Heinberg is the best we can get, considering that we've actually been waiting for this kind of news for years now.

The SI tie-in was pleasant (even if it was frustratingly short and inconsequential), but this is gold :biggrin:

[yadadaimhollaing]

Sounds like good news to me. I'm excited to hear of more young avengers stories. I loved the series and I loved the young avengers presents as well especially the eli issue. I haven't read the runaways/young avengers minis but will read most anything else with the young avengers.

[Frodo-X]

Sounds like good news to me. I'm excited to hear of more young avengers stories. I loved the series and I loved the young avengers presents as well especially the eli issue. I haven't read the runaways/young avengers minis but will read most anything else with the young avengers.


Yeah, I liked the YAP series. My favorite was Kate's. She's already one of my favorites to begin with, but then I thought it had the strongest creative team, and I wasn't disappointed.

[Brett P]

*Dusts off again*

According to Joey Q's latest MySpace interview (he's back to doing them himself), Allan Heinberg actually handed in some actual script. Excerpted (http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendID=92159514&blogID=436250851):

Great stuff! If it involves Wanda and Kang and isn't Young Avengers season 2...maybe it will be more of a joint Avengers/Young Avengers mini/maxi series?

Hope it's not too long away! And after that...they really need to push forwards with a new ongoing with a new writer...

[storm_willing_slave]

I'm ashamed how easily I get excited hearing about YA news even if its an excerpt.:redface: Still...


Still, I hope they don't solicit it until they've got all the scripts from him. Last thing I'd want is a couple issues and then a neverending delay, a la Ultimate Hulk vs. Wolverine.
I agree. With Grey Anatomy new season up and running, Allan may stalled again. Get all the scripts from this guy and then have it.

[Frank]

What I would really love would be for Kang to return, cause havok in the Avengers books. But the YA stops him because he remembers them as his friends.

[Frodo-X]

What I would really love would be for Kang to return, cause havok in the Avengers books. But the YA stops him because he remembers them as his friends.
I agree, that would be pretty cool.

[samhalliwell]

I agree, that would be pretty cool.

Very cool indeed. Now, I'm sure some people would want to kill whoever thought it was a good idea that Kang would be stopped by the power of friendship, but personally I'd be just fine with it as long as there's some trascendental YA happenings :biggrin:

[b4ustandsi]

from wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Avengers


Allan Heinberg has said that he plans to introduce a young Masters of Evil in the second "season", among other new antagonists, but does not plan to introduce any new Young Avengers at this time. The "season" will be broken up into three four-issue arcs. Heinberg has said that the teenage Kang will show up, but he will not be Iron Lad anymore. He will be part of a love triangle with Vision and Cassie.[7]

Young Avengers was plagued by delays in 2005 and 2006 and its third arc was cut by two issues, ending early in June 2006. Heinberg announced at the 2007 Bristol Comic Con that when the series returns, he will be mainly plotting the series with a co-writer taking on most of the writing load. He also said that Jim Cheung will return as the artist.[citation needed]During a panel during Wizard World Philadelphia 2007, Tom Brevoort stated that the series was not canceled, but was continuing to wait for the availability of Heinberg and Cheung. New material is forthcoming, sometime in 2008.[8] Joe Quesada has also confirmed that Heinberg and Chueng are currently at work with a story that heavily revolves around the team when Secret Invasion concludes. [9]

[Dagger]

from wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Avengers
That was written a long time ago, so I wouldn't really count on it being the main focus anymore. Plus, it's wikipedia. Not exactly the most trustworthy of sources. I really would like to see a young Masters of Evil, tho. That'd be way awesome! I want more Young Avengers introduced too.

[Samy]

Double post

[chickrockguitar]

Has anyone heard how the new series is comming? We keep hearing it's in the works...

I'm not reading much this side of the MU right now (It's mostly X-Men and Runaways), anyone know where the Young Avengers members are right now? I did however read the Runaways/Young Avengers mini. That was cool.

[JdRavnos]

They've done a few mini-series (two crossovers with the Runaways for both Civil War and Secret Invasion and "Young Avengers Presents" featuring a variety of writers and artists focusing in on one or two Young Avenger members). But at this point we've not heard anything official on a new ongoing. The indication is that they're waiting on Heinberg to clear off his schedule enough to do a second run. But I wouldn't be surprised if part of YA Presents was done to test the waters to see if fans would respond to a non-Heinberg written Young Avengers.

[chickrockguitar]

Ah okay. So nothing new then.

I did pick up the two crossovers and the Presents mini.

[Hobie Brown]

I would love to see some more Young Avengers Presents. Especially if they focus on Hawkeye.

[Big Red Spider]

Stature, Vision, and possible Hulkling appeared on the cover of an upcoming project that some have speculated might be Mighty Avengers because of the artist. But no definite news that I've heard.

[Rich L]

Stature, Vision, and possible Hulkling appeared on the cover of an upcoming project that some have speculated might be Mighty Avengers because of the artist. But no definite news that I've heard.


Stature and Vision are definitely in Mighty Avengers for at least the first issue, from Dan Slott's script.

[podmark]

Heinberg and Cheung are doing a Marvel universe project in the future that will include Kang and the Young Avengers.
Currently I think this story will be a broader version of some of Heinberg's plan for Young Avengers and afterwards the characters will be free to have an ongoing under another creative team - this is just my speculation though.

[Corey W]

The new Hawkeye is my favorite new Marvel character in years. If they YAs don't get a new book, then she should.

[Corey W]

I don't want to start another thread when there is a YA thread right here, but I have a question.

I was out of comics when YA debuted. Did it follow House of M? Are we to assume that Wanda undid the effects of House of M she reinserted Tommy and Billy in the time line and gave them fake memories about what happened prior to Disassembled? Meaning Billy never met the Witch?

[CaptainCanada]

I was out of comics when YA debuted. Did it follow House of M? Are we to assume that Wanda undid the effects of House of M she reinserted Tommy and Billy in the time line and gave them fake memories about what happened prior to Disassembled? Meaning Billy never met the Witch?
No, the first arc was set between "Avengers Disassembled" and the first arc of New Avengers, so "House of M" came later.

[Corey W]

Thanks. That makes the whole thing even more tragic. Not only are her kids alive, but she had met one and failed to recognize him.

They have got to have another YA book so that the Tommy, Billy, Wanda angle can be resolved.

[rwe1138]

Thanks. That makes the whole thing even more tragic. Not only are her kids alive, but she had met one and failed to recognize him.

I might be wrong, but I don't think Wanda met either of them. She was in Genosha the whole time between Disassembled and House of M, so the opportunity never presented itself.

[alf_to_the_rescue]

I might be wrong, but I don't think Wanda met either of them. She was in Genosha the whole time between Disassembled and House of M, so the opportunity never presented itself.

She met Billy. It was in the Young Avengers Special, detailing stories from their pasts.

[Corey W]

I might be wrong, but I don't think Wanda met either of them. She was in Genosha the whole time between Disassembled and House of M, so the opportunity never presented itself.

As Alf said, it was in a YA flashback that took place before Disassembled.

[rwe1138]

She met Billy. It was in the Young Avengers Special, detailing stories from their pasts.

Wow, I totally forgot about that.

[Ryan W]

Any ideas for a "Young Masters of Evil?"

How about:

-Antigone, the Ultron and Alkhema created robot that Jocasta briefly inhabited.
-Cole, the Wizard and Salamandara's daughter.
-Lorelei, the younger sister of The Enchantress.
-Excavator, Piledriver's son.
-Bloodwraith, the evil former squire of the Black Knight.
-one of the kidnapped and brainwashed children ("Das Kinder") that Baron Zemo and Mother Night raised and gave superpowers to; he could have a total Zemo-complex and but heads with the others for a leadership role.

Your thoughts?

[Monty_Cristo]

Any ideas for a "Young Masters of Evil?"

How about:

-Antigone, the Ultron and Alkhema created robot that Jocasta briefly inhabited.
-Cole, the Wizard and Salamandara's daughter.
-Lorelei, the younger sister of The Enchantress.
-Excavator, Piledriver's son.
-Bloodwraith, the evil former squire of the Black Knight.
-one of the kidnapped and brainwashed children ("Das Kinder") that Baron Zemo and Mother Night raised and gave superpowers to; he could have a total Zemo-complex and but heads with the others for a leadership role.

Your thoughts?


Sonic Youth villainous nephew of Klaw

[Ryan W]

I've never heard of him . . . Is he a real character or a fan creation? Either way, dig the name.

[Monty_Cristo]

I've never heard of him . . . Is he a real character or a fan creation? Either way, dig the name.

i just made him up. :biggrin:

[marvell2100]

Any ideas for a "Young Masters of Evil?"

How about:

-Antigone, the Ultron and Alkhema created robot that Jocasta briefly inhabited.
-Cole, the Wizard and Salamandara's daughter.
-Lorelei, the younger sister of The Enchantress.
-Excavator, Piledriver's son.
-Bloodwraith, the evil former squire of the Black Knight.
-one of the kidnapped and brainwashed children ("Das Kinder") that Baron Zemo and Mother Night raised and gave superpowers to; he could have a total Zemo-complex and but heads with the others for a leadership role.

Your thoughts?

My Masters of Evil:

Baron von Klink -grandson of Colonel Klink, infamous head of POW prison on Hogan's Heroes

Moon Pie -Moonstone's kid sister, a little on the slutty side.

The Grim Peeper -a very somber peeping tom

The Wrecking View -all the host's from The View

Ultron-a-Megatronocasta -an evil robot bent on world destuction who can change gender at will!

[Monty_Cristo]

My Masters of Evil:
Moon Pie -Moonstone's kid sister, a little on the slutty side.

my version's name is Mood Rock and she's very emo.

[marvell2100]

my version's name is Mood Rock and she's very emo.

But does she come with pie? Everybody loves pie.

[Sanctus]

Now that Cassie is on an adult Avengers' team, who would you like to see replace her?

My first impulse would be to say Prodigy (New X-Men) or Sophie (New Warriors). But I wonder if they are too old, and in Sophie's case, there is already a normal human woman (Hawkeyes) on the team.

Cho would have been another choice, but again, he is on an adult team now with Hercules.

Arana seems like the best choice to add more women and a person that has a power of some merit.

[pryde15]

Now that Cassie is on an adult Avengers' team, who would you like to see replace her?

My first impulse would be to say Prodigy (New X-Men) or Sophie (New Warriors). But I wonder if they are too old, and in Sophie's case, there is already a normal human woman (Hawkeyes) on the team.

Cho would have been another choice, but again, he is on an adult team now with Hercules.

Arana seems like the best choice to add more women and a person that has a power of some merit.


Do you mean Sofia? As in Renascence as in.... WIND DANCER.

http://media.comicvine.com/uploads/0/77/78661-196515-wind-dancer_super.jpg

I wouldn't be opposed to it, if she was written correctly.

[yanapryde]

I would like for Cloud 9 to join the Young Avengers.
I know a lot of people wanna argue that she's all bitter and jaded and whatever but I think the team would lighten all of that up for her. Plus she's an adorable blonde so she'd take Cassie's role well enough and I'm intrigued by her powers. I wanna know what that cloud business is all about. And then she could ditch the heavy artilery she keeps totting around and just focus on creative use of the cloud.
Nobody will agree with me, I'm sure, but thats my Christmas wish.

[mattbib]

Now that Cassie is on an adult Avengers' team, who would you like to see replace her?
Moved into the YA speculation thread just because this is still new enough to be considered a spoiler...

[greenshoes713]

I would like for Cloud 9 to join the Young Avengers.
I know a lot of people wanna argue that she's all bitter and jaded and whatever but I think the team would lighten all of that up for her. Plus she's an adorable blonde so she'd take Cassie's role well enough and I'm intrigued by her powers. I wanna know what that cloud business is all about. And then she could ditch the heavy artilery she keeps totting around and just focus on creative use of the cloud.
Nobody will agree with me, I'm sure, but thats my Christmas wish.

WRONG!!!

I agree with you.

She would make an awesome Young Avenger!

[joemagnum611]

We don't know that Cassie is exactly on the team. She could just be in the book as a supporting character like Cho. So for all we know she could be back on the team. If she's not I'd like to see someone like Sophia if she's written right. I'm still holding out hope that Prodigy will turn up in an X-Book his ties are still too close to that team. Arana is a pretty good Idea too but I would really like to see someone with close ties to the Avengers like the rest of the team.

[yanapryde]

WRONG!!!

I agree with you.

She would make an awesome Young Avenger!

Awesome. Thanks greenshoes713!
I really thought I'd wind up getting all this flack for posting that too.
It would be interesting to see how she would interact with them, since they've been together for so long now and are all very used to one another and then to have a new girl in the mix, and a bit of a headcase.
I'm thinking it won't ever happen though, since she's over in the Initiative title still, even post SI. I recall reading her name in one of the solicits, with some lizard handed guy on the cover of the issue. Oh well.

[pryde15]

I would like for Cloud 9 to join the Young Avengers.
I know a lot of people wanna argue that she's all bitter and jaded and whatever but I think the team would lighten all of that up for her. Plus she's an adorable blonde so she'd take Cassie's role well enough and I'm intrigued by her powers. I wanna know what that cloud business is all about. And then she could ditch the heavy artilery she keeps totting around and just focus on creative use of the cloud.
Nobody will agree with me, I'm sure, but thats my Christmas wish.

You have to admit sniping that Skrull was bad ass. I love Cloud 9, but if she moves to Young Avengers she must bring Kurth with her.

[greenshoes713]

Awesome. Thanks greenshoes713!
I really thought I'd wind up getting all this flack for posting that too.
It would be interesting to see how she would interact with them, since they've been together for so long now and are all very used to one another and then to have a new girl in the mix, and a bit of a headcase.
I'm thinking it won't ever happen though, since she's over in the Initiative title still, even post SI. I recall reading her name in one of the solicits, with some lizard handed guy on the cover of the issue. Oh well.

LOL I dare someone to give you flack

I think C9 is well liked in this forum actually

The YA would totally loosen her up and Cassie is a dirty dirty traitor bitch!

[greenshoes713]

You have to admit sniping that Skrull was bad ass. I love Cloud 9, but if she moves to Young Avengers she must bring Kurth with her.

Who's Kurth?

[yanapryde]

You have to admit sniping that Skrull was bad ass. I love Cloud 9, but if she moves to Young Avengers she must bring Kurth with her.

Who is Kurth?

[pryde15]

Who's Kurth?


Who is Kurth?

He pencilled Avengers: The Initiative #18. His work is amazing.

[yanapryde]

He pencilled Avengers: The Initiative #18. His work is amazing.

I didn't enjoy his rendition of Cloud 9. I'd much prefer it if Cheung came back onto Young Avengers. I enjoyed his version of her in that cover WAY BACK in the early stories of the Initiative.

[Sanctus]

Cloud 9 would work. For that matter, so woudl Trama but he woudl not jopin because he is too into being therapy for others.

[pryde15]

is that the most recent issue?

No, #19 is the most recent.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k303/cpsm1092/scan0119.jpg

[greenshoes713]

Who is Kurth?

LOL Jinx!


He pencilled Avengers: The Initiative #18. His work is amazing.

*checks A:TI #18*

Eww no, he made Devil-Slayer all fugly and Matt Mattina's colors did not help; they were too bright!

[pryde15]

LOL Jinx!



*checks A:TI #18*

Eww no, he made Devil-Slayer all fugly and Matt Mattina's colors did not help; they were too bright!

NOBODY CARES ABOUT DEVIL-SLAYER, ITS LIKE FETCH.

His art was amazing, now deal with it.

[yanapryde]

NOBODY CARES ABOUT DEVIL-SLAYER, ITS LIKE FETCH.

His art was amazing, now deal with it.

oh pryde15, love your screen name btw and your avatar.
I will say that his art was pretty cool. I didn't so much enjoy his rendition of Cloud9 but I'm a little bit of an art snob when it comes to my fave people.

I support you and your love for Kurth.
Although I still want Cheung.

[pryde15]

oh pryde15, love your screen name btw and your avatar.
I will say that his art was pretty cool. I didn't so much enjoy his rendition of Cloud9 but I'm a little bit of an art snob when it comes to my fave people.

I support you and your love for Kurth.
Although I still want Cheung.

Thanks, I hate my screen name. I am tired of being confused as a 15 year old girl, just rude.

Really? I loved his rendition of Cloud 9 it is my favorite thus far.

[yanapryde]

Thanks, I hate my screen name. I am tired of being confused as a 15 year old girl, just rude.

Really? I loved his rendition of Cloud 9 it is my favorite thus far.

ha ha ha.
Well, mine is a tribute to both Illyana and Kitty and I have an avatar of Cloud9 but I'm a 26 year old man, so I guess I can understand how that might be cause confusion.

[pryde15]

ha ha ha.
Well, mine is a tribute to both Illyana and Kitty and I have an avatar of Cloud9 but I'm a 26 year old man, so I guess I can understand how that might be cause confusion.

Ah yes, I forgot, you are the new Pryde.

Is there an Avengers The Initiative: New and Speculation thread, because right now this has nothing to do with the Young Avengers lol.

[Ryan W]

Tarene = Obvious choice.

[CaptainCanada]

Cassie and Vision, if they stick around with the MA (which I think is pretty likely; I can't see bringing in two such super-connected characters for only three issues), would, one imagines, only be on loan until/if the regular YA series starts up again.

[Sanctus]

Cassie and Vision, if they stick around with the MA (which I think is pretty likely; I can't see bringing in two such super-connected characters for only three issues), would, one imagines, only be on loan until/if the regular YA series starts up again.

You're right. YA is losing Vision as well. Who could replace him? It has to be a brainiac. Prodigy (New X-Men) woudl work there. Or maybe one of the ex-homeless kids from the New Warriors who did all the tech stuff. That person or persons could be the Molly Hayes like character.

[Peter F.]

If it really does come to replacing Stature and Vision, I think Heinberg will probably try to create his new own characters rather than use Initiative members. That way he wouldn't have to worry about Christos Gage's plans for them.

Of course this is all a moot point considering the fact that there has been no real official word on whether or not we'll ever see another Young Avengers series.

[yanapryde]

You're right. YA is losing Vision as well. Who could replace him? It has to be a brainiac. Prodigy (New X-Men) woudl work there. Or maybe one of the ex-homeless kids from the New Warriors who did all the tech stuff. That person or persons could be the Molly Hayes like character.

Victor Mancha, who actually WANTS to be a superhero and has severe superhero admiration could take his place. He's the cyborb over on Runaways and he is technically Vision's brother.
That is, if the replacement needed to be of the synthetic variety, Victor could fill those shoes well enough. Although I can't picture him in a costume or imagine what his code name would be. I don't see him choosing his originally intended code name of 'victorious' due to all the negative conotations that come with it.
ah well.

[Sanctus]

Victor Mancha, who actually WANTS to be a superhero and has severe superhero admiration could take his place. He's the cyborb over on Runaways and he is technically Vision's brother.
That is, if the replacement needed to be of the synthetic variety, Victor could fill those shoes well enough. Although I can't picture him in a costume or imagine what his code name would be. I don't see him choosing his originally intended code name of 'victorious' due to all the negative conotations that come with it.
ah well.

He would be the natural choice. I don't see him bailing on the Runaways. There is also Karima from X-Men (the sentinal mutant thing).

[pryde15]

He would be the natural choice. I don't see him bailing on the Runaways. There is also Karima from X-Men (the sentinal mutant thing).

Karima is far too old to be a member.

Also, we seem to be forgetting the Avengers Protocols they used to locate Tommy when they were looking for a new member.

[yanapryde]

I'm still dying to know who some of the other potential young avengers would be.
For all we know, some of the initiative recruits could very well be future young avengers..
after all, its not like we've been given much inclination at who else is in the Vision's data base for future candidates, and with the whole Super Hero Registration going on, these potential candidates may have already signed up for training.
Oooh Oooh Maybe Cloud 9 COULD be a future YOUNG AVENGER!

okay.
probably not.
again, just a fanboy making a wish.
sigh.

[yanapryde]

anyone have the issue handy where you can see some of the names from the Vision's database?

[Peter F.]

I'd say Gravity and Arana may have been on the list.

[yanapryde]

I'd say Gravity and Arana may have been on the list.

Oh I forgot about Gravity.
I love him.
If the YA were to ever splinter off into 2 YA groups, like the X-Men have been known to do and such, then I'd love for Gravity to become one of the leaders.
Oh yes, that would please me very much.

[pryde15]

Oh I forgot about Gravity.
I love him.
If the YA were to ever splinter off into 2 YA groups, like the X-Men have been known to do and such, then I'd love for Gravity to become one of the leaders.
Oh yes, that would please me very much.

NO. Gravity must stay with the Heavy Hitters, that team is just full of win.

I remember Vision stating a name or two, but I can't remember and I don't feel like searching for the issue.

[Peter F.]

Oh I forgot about Gravity.
I love him.
If the YA were to ever splinter off into 2 YA groups, like the X-Men have been known to do and such, then I'd love for Gravity to become one of the leaders.
Oh yes, that would please me very much.

It'd please me if he stopped killing, but that's just me.:tongue:

But more so I'd prefer it if he'd use his powers more creatively. He controls one of the four fundamental forces of nature and lately all he's been doing is making things heavy. Come on man you can do way more than that! This is the guy who created a gravitational field that was perpendicular to a planet's and then held that exploding planet together through sheer force of will.


NO. Gravity must stay with the Heavy Hitters, that team is just full of win.

I remember Vision stating a name or two, but I can't remember and I don't feel like searching for the issue.

I like Gravity and Telemetry but Nonstop is boring (and of course she's the only speedster to survive). Hardball is a turncoat.

[pryde15]

It'd please me if he stopped killing, but that's just me.:tongue:

But more so I'd prefer it if he'd use his powers more creatively. He controls one of the four fundamental forces of nature and lately all he's been doing is making things heavy. Come on man you can do way more than that! This is the guy who created a gravitational field that was perpendicular to a planet's and then held that exploding planet together through sheer force of will.



I like Gravity and Telemetry but Nonstop is boring (and of course she's the only speedster to survive). Hardball is a turncoat.


Non Stop is amazing. She rounds out the team. She just needs to be characterized alittle more.

I wrote the profile for Telemetry on comicvine lol.

[Peter F.]

Anyways as per yanapryde's request I looked through my Young Avengers issues.

The fail safe program appeared twice, once in issue 3 and then again in issue 10. However the list of names only appeared in one panel of issue 3. Other than Patriot, Hulkling and Wiccan (or Asgardian as he was known back then) the list names 6 other potential recruits for the Young Avengers.

Matthew Bronleewe, Todd Casey, Richard Chung, Anissa Dorsey, Perry Moore, and Robin Parrish.

[podmark]

Funny thing is Patriot shouldn't have been on the list. I've been rereading my issues this week and noticed that. Iron Lad was actually looking for Patriot's uncle Josiah. Patriot didn't have any powers and shouldn't have been on the list.

Also I still don't believe for a second Cassie and Vision are off YA. The next story is a Kang story, how could you cut those two out.

[RonnieThunderbolts]

Funny thing is Patriot shouldn't have been on the list. I've been rereading my issues this week and noticed that. Iron Lad was actually looking for Patriot's uncle Josiah. Patriot didn't have any powers and shouldn't have been on the list.

As per Patriot's retelling of his origin he wasn't on the list, Josiah was. Eli said he wasn't originally on the list, but the Iron Lad tech with Vision's programming is where the list we've seen in pages comes from, with Eli telling Iron Lad he had powers, it would seem he was added to the list at that time by Iron Lad himself.

[podmark]

As per Patriot's retelling of his origin he wasn't on the list, Josiah was. Eli said he wasn't originally on the list, but the Iron Lad tech with Vision's programming is where the list we've seen in pages comes from, with Eli telling Iron Lad he had powers, it would seem he was added to the list at that time by Iron Lad himself.

Now that would make sense. You deserve a no-prize.

[Sanctus]

Creating new characters would be fine, but I would also like to have some characters who are already in Marvel to get some more time. Though I know it would never happen, Layla Miller joing the yA would be cool because I could see her just annoying the hell out of Patriot, but in a good way. I think it would also be cool to see a rivalry develope between her and Hawkeyes.

[greenshoes713]

It'd please me if he stopped killing, but that's just me.:tongue:

But more so I'd prefer it if he'd use his powers more creatively. He controls one of the four fundamental forces of nature and lately all he's been doing is making things heavy. Come on man you can do way more than that! This is the guy who created a gravitational field that was perpendicular to a planet's and then held that exploding planet together through sheer force of will.



I like Gravity and Telemetry but Nonstop is boring (and of course she's the only speedster to survive). Hardball is a turncoat.

Nonstop looks so fugly! ewww


Anyways as per yanapryde's request I looked through my Young Avengers issues.

The fail safe program appeared twice, once in issue 3 and then again in issue 10. However the list of names only appeared in one panel of issue 3. Other than Patriot, Hulkling and Wiccan (or Asgardian as he was known back then) the list names 6 other potential recruits for the Young Avengers.

Matthew Bronleewe, Todd Casey, Richard Chung, Anissa Dorsey, Perry Moore, and Robin Parrish.

Ooh! Anissa is totally my fave!:tongue:

[coconutphone]

Layla would be cool but she doesn't really fit an Avengher archetype except maybe Wanda but that's already covered by Billy. When are they going to bring this back??? Either get Heinberg back or move on. I'm sure there are plenty who'd love to write them on a reg basis.

[spark627]

Layla would be cool but she doesn't really fit an Avengher archetype except maybe Wanda but that's already covered by Billy. When are they going to bring this back??? Either get Heinberg back or move on. I'm sure there are plenty who'd love to write them on a reg basis.

Waiting for this series to return is killing me... I can only ready Volume 1 so many times!

[Sanctus]

Waiting for this series to return is killing me... I can only ready Volume 1 so many times!

Agreed. I have read it so many times I know almost all of the dialogue, like i do for the Breakfast Club.

Does any one know what the sales figures were for the series? Is Marvel missing out on major money by not having this series in print?

[spark627]

Agreed. I have read it so many times I know almost all of the dialogue, like i do for the Breakfast Club.

Does any one know what the sales figures were for the series? Is Marvel missing out on major money by not having this series in print?

I believe it sold very well as a series... the small YA Presents mini didn't do as well, probably bc it was obviously just to shut the fans up while not progressing to far into the series bc of Heinberg

[Dimoutzi]

Creating new characters would be fine, but I would also like to have some characters who are already in Marvel to get some more time.

Araña would be a good candidate. She is about the same age as the Young Avengers, and she already has ties to the Avengers. Ms. Marvel was her mentor for a while, and she could take on the role of "young spider-woman" :wink:

[CaptainCanada]

Does any one know what the sales figures were for the series? Is Marvel missing out on major money by not having this series in print?
It was in the Top 30-35, I believe.

[Flâneur]

Also I still don't believe for a second Cassie and Vision are off YA. The next story is a Kang story, how could you cut those two out.

Well, MA took Wanda too and she was to be the other big story for the YA.

[pryde15]

To be perfectly honest I am ecstatic that Vision is off the Young Avengers and now running around with Mighty. He was always one of my favorites, and I think it's time he returned to the big leagues.

[podmark]

Well, MA took Wanda too and she was to be the other big story for the YA.

The mistake people are making is that being in Mighty means they're not in Young Avengers. The Heinberg project doesn't have a release date yet, and it's sadly possible it could fall through again, but I doubt it this time. Earliest we'll probably see it is this summer, probably later. That's lots of time to do some stories with Stature and Vision in Mighty before Heinberg returns. The other thing to keep in mind that Heinberg's project is an MU series starring the Young Avengers rather than a YA series, that makes it easy to include Stature and Vision even if they remain with Mighty. And Joe Q confirmed Kang is part of Heinberg's project so he's going to include Cassie and Jonas, they're the most connected to him.


I'm very curious how Wanda will be handled in Mighty. Not even getting into the can of worms that is Wanda becoming an Avenger again, but how will Slott touch on her and Wiccan and Speed. The tricky part is that YA is essentially in the middle of a filler saga right now. How much can he do there? Or perhaps Wanda won't play a role in Heinberg's story so Slott is clear to do a proper reunion. Or maybe he'll do some creative writing to keep Wanda away from them. Incuding Cassie and Jonas will make that aspect very interesting.


As for established teen heroes joining the team, if it's Heinberg writing I doubt it. He'd probably stick to new creations rather than adding a Gravity, Arana, or Cloud 9. I could see grabbing someone along the lines of preYA Cassie Lang though.
However if another writer takes over the writing chores following the project as I suspect will be the case, then I think it's certainly possible established teen heroes could join.

[TCJohnson]

From David Gabriel, the VP of Sales at Marvel, speaking at the 2009 Diamond/Alliance Retailer Summit in Baltimore.


In other brief news, Gabriel said the new Young Avengers limited series by the concept's creators Allan Heinberg and Jim Cheung called Avengers: Children’s Crusade is scheduled to debut in July 2010 before Comic-Con International: San Diego and is expected to be released bi-monthly to assure its timely shipping. Gabriel added, however, that the creative team is already "two or three issues into that story".


http://www.newsarama.com/comics/091028-gabriel-diamond.html

[insidemyhead]

Cool; I'm starting to believe that we might actually see this some day.

[coconutphone]

Sweet. I'm fine with bi-monthly.

[Wellman]

From David Gabriel, the VP of Sales at Marvel, speaking at the 2009 Diamond/Alliance Retailer Summit in Baltimore.



http://www.newsarama.com/comics/091028-gabriel-diamond.html

When they say Bi-monthly so they mean one issue every two months? That sucks.

[spark627]

When they say Bi-monthly so they mean one issue every two months? That sucks.

Yea, especially when there is a VERY good chance it still won't be on time. That is Heinberg for ya though, the only person who gets paid to never meet a deadline! lol

[CaptainCanada]

Cheung's not a monthly artist either, though, if you want him to do it all. He strained to keep bimonthly on New Avengers: Illuminati.

[Prodigy55]

bi-monthly starting in july!?! :frown:

if they've already announced it shouldn't they have started? why does it take them so long.

[perry moore]

Hi, everyone,

I'm the greatest Young Avengers fan in the world, but only as long as Allan Heinberg writes it. If Marvel couldn't make nice with him, which wouldn't surprise me, then I don't care to read it. It's Allan's book. That's when it's best.

And if the book is without Allan, and therefore not at its best, why would you even want to read a second-rate version.

By the way, I am one of those identified in the fail safe program. And proud as can be. I had no idea you all even noticed. But, yes, one of them is I. A big ol' excited "I."

I even have a copy of issue 3 framed! Allan called and said, "There's a surprise for you in issue three. When the issue finally came out, I ran to Midtown Comics to buy, and I stopped in Bryant Park to read it. There I was! In the fail safe program! By far, my proudest moment in comics.

Ready to join any time...

Long Live Allan's Young Avengers!

Perry Moore
(author of HERO)
perrymoorestories@gmail.com


Anyways as per yanapryde's request I looked through my Young Avengers issues.

The fail safe program appeared twice, once in issue 3 and then again in issue 10. However the list of names only appeared in one panel of issue 3. Other than Patriot, Hulkling and Wiccan (or Asgardian as he was known back then) the list names 6 other potential recruits for the Young Avengers.

Matthew Bronleewe, Todd Casey, Richard Chung, Anissa Dorsey, Perry Moore, and Robin Parrish.

[Peter F.]

Hi, everyone,

I'm the greatest Young Avengers fan in the world, but only as long as Allan Heinberg writes it. If Marvel couldn't make nice with him, which wouldn't surprise me, then I don't care to read it. It's Allan's book. That's when it's best.

And if the book is without Allan, and therefore not at its best, why would you even want to read a second-rate version.

By the way, I am one of those identified in the fail safe program. And proud as can be. I had no idea you all even noticed. But, yes, one of them is I. A big ol' excited "I."

I even have a copy of issue 3 framed! Allan called and said, "There's a surprise for you in issue three. When the issue finally came out, I ran to Midtown Comics to buy, and I stopped in Bryant Park to read it. There I was! In the fail safe program! By far, my proudest moment in comics.

Ready to join any time...

Long Live Allan's Young Avengers!

Perry Moore
(author of HERO)
perrymoorestories@gmail.com

That is so cool. You were a potential Young Avenger! So I assume you personally know Mr. Heinberg.

I don't suppose you can spoil us with any developments about Children's Crusade.

[spark627]

Do we have any confirmation as to when this is coming? Do we know if it is YA or an Avengers story?

grrr, so anxious for this.

[coconutphone]

Do we have any confirmation as to when this is coming? Do we know if it is YA or an Avengers story?

grrr, so anxious for this.

I think March but could be wrong.

[Peter F.]

I think March but could be wrong.

From what TCJohnson quoted up on this page from the 2009 Diamond/Alliance Retailer Summit in Baltimore, the series isn't debuting until July 2010.

[spark627]

Hi, everyone,

I'm the greatest Young Avengers fan in the world, but only as long as Allan Heinberg writes it. If Marvel couldn't make nice with him, which wouldn't surprise me, then I don't care to read it. It's Allan's book. That's when it's best.

And if the book is without Allan, and therefore not at its best, why would you even want to read a second-rate version.

By the way, I am one of those identified in the fail safe program. And proud as can be. I had no idea you all even noticed. But, yes, one of them is I. A big ol' excited "I."

I even have a copy of issue 3 framed! Allan called and said, "There's a surprise for you in issue three. When the issue finally came out, I ran to Midtown Comics to buy, and I stopped in Bryant Park to read it. There I was! In the fail safe program! By far, my proudest moment in comics.

Ready to join any time...

Long Live Allan's Young Avengers!

Perry Moore
(author of HERO)
perrymoorestories@gmail.com

I agree that Heinberg should write Young Avengers, but he actually has to write it. I don't mind waiting, but how many years has it been? 4? 5? On top of that, when we get the series (July apparently, but I'm not holding my breath) it will be bi-monthly, again... not holding my breath bc I highly doubt we will even get it bi-monthly. Plus, what are we getting, 6 issues? 5 years for 6 issues? Come on!

I never heard that Marvel 'couldn't play nice with Heinberg' as you said. All of the delays seem to be Heinberg's fault (and with his track record, I have to believe it)

I do think Young Avengers will be good under someone else... it hasn't happened yet bc the writers were not allowed to move the characters anywhere bc everyone had to wait for Heinberg.

I truly love Volume 1 and wish that Heinberg could work on a normal schedule, but he just can't (and not just for this book, same situation with WW also, although I didn't care for what he did).

[Peter F.]

It's 8 issues apparently.

[spark627]

It's 8 issues apparently.

Well, then I stand corrected :smile:

Still too long to wait.

[perry moore]

What do you think my powers and story would have been?

Perry


That is so cool. You were a potential Young Avenger! So I assume you personally know Mr. Heinberg.

I don't suppose you can spoil us with any developments about Children's Crusade.