Which OYL books did you try but decided to drop? [Archive]

shaxper

06-22-2006, 05:17 PM

I tried all of them. There were a few that I didn't like right away (i.e. Manhunter, Hawkgirl, Blue Beetle, Supergirl), a few that were decent but, eventually, just not worth my $3 anymore (i.e. Green Arrow, Superman/Action, JSA, Robin), a few that I suspect might still surprise me (Aquaman, Nightwing, Birds of Prey), a few that I have to stick with because they feature my favorite characters (Batman/Detective, Green Lantern), and really only one that I'm looking forward to each month right now (Supergirl and the Legion of Superheroes). My favorite DC stuff right now exists outside of the normal DCU (All-Star Superman, Justice, Seven Soldiers). OYL was a good idea, but most of these titles just aren't doing much for me.

DonC

06-22-2006, 05:47 PM

Dropped after one issue:

Blue Beetle
Green Arrow

On the fence:

Birds of Prey
Hawkgirl
Shadowpact (haven't read it yet)
Catwoman

Guts/Batman

06-22-2006, 05:59 PM

Nightwing...Oh God, does that book suck.

Outside of that, none. I tend not to drop books because of one bad arc. Unless the suckage is too great. Like Nightwing.

I've loved JSA OYL, and Blaze of Glory was Revival worthy. Batman/Detective is getting boring. Superman/Action has been written very well to my surprise. Right pacing, great storytelling.

Birds of Prey was alright. At least Prometheus didn't job to Huntress and company.

I've enjoyed Manhunter and Firestorm. The pace of the books is slower but I tend to like more patient storytelling anyways.

Didn't try OMAC or Shadowpact. The Spectre rocked pretty hardcore.

Lex

06-22-2006, 07:04 PM

Green Arrow and Outsiders... oh wait, I didn't try them in the first place.

Shadowpact is the OYL book I might drop. I don't think this was the best story to start the book with. It had a lot of potential, but hasn't lived up to it so far. And Willingham seems to be more interested in the villains of the story than the main characters. I enjoy the art, though.

The other OYL books I tried (Aquaman, Blue Beetle, Checkmate, Flash, GLC, Superman & Batman books, Wonder Woman) have been fairly good. The books I was reading pre-OYL (Manhunter, Birds of Prey, JSA, Firestorm, Legion) continue to be really, really good.

LtMarvel

06-22-2006, 07:12 PM

Aquaman.. new guy didn't take

Hellstormer

06-22-2006, 07:13 PM

Not Pulled:
Blue Beetle- Good but I'll wait for the trade.
Robin- Good but I like him more in TT

Pulled:
Batman/Detective Comics- No more Batdick:D
Teen Titans- Kid Devil's the shnit
Aquaman- I wanna see what they're doing with it.
Is the new WOnder Woman considered OYL?- Secret Agent Prince? Hell yeah!

Brack360

06-22-2006, 07:16 PM

Supergirl and the Legion of Super-Heroes
Outsiders
Robin
The Flash

Lex

06-22-2006, 07:20 PM

Oh, and I like Robin OYL. Beechen is a great writer and is doing a really good job on the book.

Captain

06-22-2006, 07:20 PM

I gave every single book (well, the ones with the OYL logo) three issues to impress me or at the very least convince me to give an extended test.

I have dropped Action, Superman, Hawkgirl, Supergirl & LoSH, Nightwing, Robin, Catwoman, Birds of Prey, Green Lantern, Green Arrow, Teen Titans, Outsiders, Firestorm, Aquaman, and Manhunter.

Pretty much the only things I will stick with are Blood of the Demon, Batman, and Detective. I would like to point out that I had been reading many of these titles before IC, and I do not like the route most of the books have taken since before IC started and up til now.

I am enjoying 52, but DC has been greatly disappointing as of late. Come to think of it, so has Marvel.

jerrymcl89

06-22-2006, 07:26 PM

I've bailed rapidly on Nightwing, Robin, and Hawkgirl. I also dropped Green Arrow with the jump, although I've heard relatively good things about it since.

Guts/Batman

06-22-2006, 07:29 PM

Green Arrow and Outsiders... oh wait, I didn't try them in the first place.

Nor did I. I was Winick'd out by the time OYL hit.

aukevin

06-22-2006, 08:41 PM

The only one I quit was Checkmate. Aquaman was a title that I started with OYL and I really like it. Green Arrow was a title that I read the first 20 issues or so and then came back for OYL and am liking it. This week's Flash was the first of that title I've gotten in a long time, we'll see how long I stay with it.

Superman, Batman, and Aquaman are by far my favorite OYL titles right now.

astronato

06-22-2006, 09:30 PM

I dropped.... Checkmate, Shadowpact and Secret Six after one issue.

They were ok, but Infinite Crisis killed my buzz for the DCU and there is other stuff I'd prefer to buy and read.

I was getting Hawkman. Dropped Hawkgirl after 2 issues. I like Chaykin and Simonson but I was buying the book to read about Carter. Yeah, it's fanboy, but when Carter is back, I'll be back.

I've been getting Green Arrow all along and while the OYL premise for the book sounded promising, it hasn't been more that one big fight between two cool characters. And not to sound snooty but the dialogue is always pretty bad. GA is on the bubble.

Aquaman...I was going to drop it OYL but haven't. I prefer the classic two handed, short hair Aquaman but the new book is a modern take on the golden age Arthur Curry and I sort of like that. I just don't like the idea that the poor ol' previous Aquaman is still bumming around as squidface. I dont much like the idea of two Aquamans in one reality, with one disguised as calamari or not. So, it may not be cool to be a fan boy, but this book is on the bubble for me until I see how Mr Busiek resolves the two Arthurs thing.

shyguy

06-22-2006, 09:43 PM

I don't want to drop Legion of Super-Heroes, but if the pace doesn't pick up soon, I'm going to. I feel as though virtually nothing has happened in that book for a while now.

I'd drop Blue Beetle if it was called anything else. But since I'm a Blue Beetle nut, I'll keep picking it up. Although an upcoming lack of Giffen is going to be a real test.

I wish I would have stayed away from both the Batman and Superman 8-parters. I enjoyed them both to begin with, but I lost interest sometime around the 5th parts of both of them. Batman is a little better, although I hate, hate, hate the killing off of villains. They both could've been 4-parters without losing anything.

I'll probably keep picking up the Supes and Bats titles for awhile just because I'm intrigued by the creative teams. I'm hoping Busiek hits his stride.

I haven't gotten to the shop this week, but I'm probably going to pick up Flash #1.

Meta 05

06-23-2006, 02:21 AM

Why so much hate for Green Arrow.That has become my favorite old school DC character.Is it the content an the Arcs, or the fact the writer is liberal an using Ollie as an anbimated mouth for his stances ?.

I forgot to Add
Bluebettle done((Pacos adventures read like its written for when there were acctually kids reading comics,at 23 this is a little mind numbing an to cute))

Lex

06-23-2006, 12:13 PM

Why so much hate for Green Arrow.I like the character fine, but I've found the writing to be poor and uninteresting.

Lex

06-23-2006, 12:13 PM

*nevermind*

Dennis K

06-23-2006, 12:18 PM

Aquaman. That's it.

handOFfate

06-23-2006, 12:52 PM

Unfortunately Judd Winnick's name is a guarantee of crap. I seriously fail to see why this guy is considered one of DC's top writers. I gave Outsiders two issues due to the new roster and it failed to pull me in. I despise the characterization of Nightwing. I really do wonder if Jason Todd was supposed to be the original leader, because Dick is a Jason-clone here.

Blue Beetle... is just boring. I'm going to wait for the trade on this one.

After reading the first three issues, I decided to wait for the trades on Batman and Superman. I've heard the same thing from just about everybody; good stories, but far too stretched out.

Teen Titans isn't Teen Titans without Superboy and Kid Flash, but its a pretty good read right now, so I'm keeping it. Kid Devil is a cool character.

Reading back through the early JSA issues, I've come to realize that this title has seen better days. Geoff Johns has simply been writing the title for too long. He's done a great job, but its time for somebody else to take a shot at it. I wish the title would reach 100, but a relaunch with a new cast is probably the best thing right now. They need to start by getting a new chairman. Terrific is a good character, but he's been at the leadership spot for too long and has become overexposed as a result.

dupersuper

06-23-2006, 01:05 PM

I dumped Nightwing...I was curious to see what became of Jason after the cool Batman run...but apparently Dick has become a loser who gets his ass handed to him every issue...also; a male model! WTF???
I was gonna buy Aquaman 'cause I really like Busiek...but I don't see spending $ on an Aquaman book that doesn't seem to be about Aquaman...which is fine, since I can get my Busiek fix on the Supes books now.

Hellstormer

06-23-2006, 01:08 PM

Unfortunately Judd Winnick's name is a guarantee of crap.Not always true in my opinion two runs he hasd I liked (Batman, Exiles)

Zero Hunter

06-23-2006, 01:21 PM

Dropped:

Hawkgirl - With the creators on this I am surprised that I don't like it.
Blue Beetle - Gave it 2 issues and it just couldn't hook me.
Shadowpact - Same as Blue Beetle. Might come back after the first arc since I do like the characters.
Outsiders - This might change though since I did pick up the last issue and liked the way Nightwing handled Alan Scott and Superman.
Supergirl - This book just has been to all over the place for me. Waid has a better handle on her in Supergirl/Legion.
Superman/Batman - Can't belive I hung around this turkey as long as I did.
Superman/Action Comics - I never stick around Superman for long. I did like the first story arc though and might keep and eye on Johns book and the Buisek book just to see if I want to get it again.

Didn't pick up:

Checkmate
Spectre
Batman
Detective
Nightwing
Robin

Am reading and enjoing:

Supergirl/Legion - Almost dropped this book, but for some reason it is just better since Supergirl came on.
Teen Titans
Green Arrow - Came back right before OYL and am still enjoying it now.
Blood of the Demon - To bad the book is ending.
Green Lantern
Green Lantern Corps
Ion - Wasn't sure after issue 1 but issue 2 made me decided to stick around.
Secret Six - So far a good mini.
Wonder Women - Liked the first issue.
Flash - Liked the first issue.
JSA - A little weak but I think it will get better real soon.
Aquaman - Like the new direction
Birds of Prey - Is starting to drag in spots, but I think I will at least give it until issue 100 before making the final save/drop call.

Looking forward to:

Justice League of America
Omega Men mini
Mystery in Space mini
Guy Gardner Unleashed mini

dazzler_slave

06-23-2006, 01:26 PM

I dropped Hawkgirl OYL

Aquaman gets the first 6 issues before I decide if it is worth it. I wasn't reading Aquaman before OYL. I picked it up solely because I am a Busiek fan. We'll see how it goes.

I dropped Batman, Detective, Nightwing, Robin and Green Arrow before OYL and flipping through a friend's copies of these titles, nothing within has convinced me to return

Picked up due to OYL: Firestorm, Secret Six, Blue Beetle, Ion, Battle For Bludhaven?Freedom Fighters, Spectre, Checkmate, Shadowpact and all are interesting me enough to keep collecting.

Was collecting before OYL and still am collecting: Birds of Prey, Catwoman, JSA, Teen Titans, Outsiders, LOSH, Supergirl, Wonder Woman, JLA, Green Lantern, GL Corps

jade_nova

06-23-2006, 02:45 PM

I dropped Aquaman, Outsiders, and Wonder Woman.

Guts/Batman

06-23-2006, 04:17 PM

Why so much hate for Green Arrow.That has become my favorite old school DC character.Is it the content an the Arcs, or the fact the writer is liberal an using Ollie as an anbimated mouth for his stances ?.

Well...

"I more honest that you because I rape"...

I know that was Pre-OYL but that was just plain insulting. The dialogue is atrocious. My Suspension of Disbelief cannot take the beating it takes. Ollie got as good as Deathstroke in swordfighting in one year? Seriously.

His pacing is horrible. Completely unresolved things. It's just not good.

And Winick using Ollie as a mouthpiece is annoying. Millar , doing the same with Civil War is even more annoying. The arc is a direct copy of NML.

Zero Hunter

06-23-2006, 07:53 PM

You really need to get over the Ollie/Deathstroke thing. Christ it has been explained 50 times that Ollie was no where near as good as Deathstroke he just set him up good enough to take away his advantages with careful planning and preperation. He was standing in ankle deep glue for god sakes he could not move and was in a nonfighting stance. Ollie did not get better in swordfighting than him. Period.

The book is a good read.

Guts/Batman

06-23-2006, 08:04 PM

It is? Coulda fooled me.

Well, he took away his advantages, true. But, Deathstroke should have killed him about a minute or two into the fight. Preparation and all that is nice but they were still engaged in a fight.

I don't mind PIS as much as I used to but that is still way too stupid for me to read it. Deathstroke vs. Ollie is about as close to a non-fight as you get.

His books being ignored by DC is why we have to go back over it. Not his fault that his arcs got utterly ignored though.

Even so, this book has lots of other issues.

Violently Apathetic

06-23-2006, 08:41 PM

And Winick using Ollie as a mouthpiece is annoying.

Really? I think they kinda gel well, considering Ollie 'the insane pedophile rapist just had to say he was gay to get me to move in with him' Queen has been characterized as an ultra liberal nutjob long before Winick got a hold of him and I find it no more obtrusive than when Kevin Smith was writing the character...Certainly it is much less awkward than what Millar is doing as at least Winick isn't rewriting characters to suit his plot...

The Deathstroke thing didn't bug me too much as I think it's important to be reminded once in a while that Slade is only human, especially after that entire 'I can take down the Justice League' bit in Identity Crisis...

Guts/Batman

06-23-2006, 08:46 PM

I guess I find authors using characters as mouthpieces to be annoying in general. That is probably part of it.

Slade may only be human but he is a mid level metahuman who has superhuman reflexes, superhuman strength (not a ton, mind you), healing factor, uses 90% of his brain and all that other good stuff.

Violently Apathetic

06-23-2006, 08:55 PM

Guts/Batman

06-23-2006, 09:02 PM

Well, I agree, the characters being used as mouthpieces for the writers IS annoying, but really Winick and Ollie probably share the same opinion on a LOT of things, so it's not as obviously out of character as it could be. It is possible that this is just how Ollie would logically act and it happens to sound a lot like Winick. Basically, sure, it's something to be avoided, but I think it works here...

All that good stuff does not make him incapable of being surprised by someone he went in underestimating... besides, given his smirking he certainly seems to be taking his 'defeat' in stride...

You do have a point about it not being out of character. I can't really argue against it.

The difference between Ollie and Slade is just too much to survive my Suspension of Disbelief-o-meter. That in addition to the art is too distracting for me to be able to concentrate on the story.

Plus...does Green Arrow have a prometheum sword?

Babylon23

06-25-2006, 07:18 PM

I tried a lot of new DC books, and haven't dropped any of them yet. I'm still on the fence about Blue Beetle and Wonder Woman.

Captain Jim

06-25-2006, 08:51 PM

Dropped after one OYL issue:

Firestorm (not bad, but nothing special)
JSA (ditto)
Green Arrow (I like the art, but not the writing)
Outsiders (yuck!)

Dropped after reading #1-3 in one setting:

Blue Beetle (extremely mundane)

I'm way behind on my reading, so more will doubtless follow.

jwd

06-25-2006, 08:57 PM

Robin - Dropped after 1st story arc - Not because of what happened to Cassie. I never cared much for her character in the first place. Dropped because I really don't have a lot of interest in Tim Drake's character anymore either. Kinda sad when I have all 100+ issues Dixon wrote.

Superman/Action Comics - Really enjoying them. I'll continue to get both. They should announce the Action Comics writing team soon since they're suppose to take over in Oct (After Kurt B. and Fabian N. ) so a 3 part story. I'll just wait and see who it is.

Batman/Detective Comics - I've enjoyed it but am ready for Face the Face to end. The whole idea of Harvey Dent walking around free just seems odd to me though. I'm leaning more towards only getting Morrison's Batman book since it interests me a little more than Dini's stories. Animation work has been great but the comics like the Harley Quinn one shot and Mad Love to me were only so-so.

Flash #1 - Read one issue and that was enough. Kind of mundane lead, jumping between his story to give us old Flash backgrounds and an extremely annoying roomate you know he's going to have to rescue.

That's all I've tried so far.

For now Superman, Action Comics, Batman and maybe Detective Comics are on my list. Trying to keep it light

Effect

06-25-2006, 10:06 PM

Nightwing (just bad, they should have stuck with Dick dying and Jason being the only Nightwing)
Robin (not really a Tim solo fan).

Until Batman titles drop the crossover and even then it depends if there are plans to touch on Jason Todd, will depend if I look at it.

Teen Titans I've decided to keep until this arc is over since I like Robin in here along with Kid Devil and Ravenger. Wonder Girl can go fly into a star for all I care and Cyborg can go offline forever. So depends on how annoyed at these two characters I become if I'm going to drop it or not.

Haven't really touched any other title.

bodie_3_7_ci5

06-26-2006, 04:29 AM

Dropped after 1 issue:
Blue Beetle - Quite dull. None of the characters interested me at all.
Robin - My opinion of Robin is often harsh. I gave it a go but I just don't like the character. I don't even like him in any of the Batman titles.

Titles that have impressed me but have never read before OYL:
Aquaman - I love the direction this is taking. I haven't been exposed to Kurt's writing before and I love his style. The art is great too.
Checkmate - I picked up the first issue on a whim. This title is now on the top of my reading list just below Manhunter. I look forward to it every month.
Hawkgirl - I can't wait to find out more about this character
Firestorm - Started off okay but the last issue was fantastic. The Pupil was just creepy.

Other DC titles I am reading (and love)in addition to the other titles above are Batman, Detective Comics, Manhunter, Action Comics, Superman, Green Arrow, Wonder Woman, Birds Of Prey and Flash

krammocon

06-26-2006, 11:07 PM

Dropped:

Green Arrow
Nightwing (twice) hehe
Firestorm (after two issues)

Still enjoying reading:

Checkmate - mostly coz I like Fire
Birds of Prey - Gypsy is in there, and I love female heroes than males
Blue Beetle - I just want to give Jaime a chance
JSA - Can't drop a book with Power Girl in it
Action Comics/Superman - probably just till the 1st story arc wraps up
Detective/Batman - same as Action/Superman
Aquaman - I am enjoying this new Aquaman even moreso than the old one.
Wonder Woman - probably till Heinberg's run
The Flash - contrary to other's opinion. I liked its first issue.
Supergirl - on (if PG guest stars) off (mostly, but I'm intrigued to try Joe Kelly's run after the 1st arc.)
Outsiders - Metamorpho, Nightwing and Katana? Sold
Teen Titans - enjoying the current creative team than before

Rich L

06-27-2006, 09:58 AM

Hmm..dropped Green Arrow, Outsiders, Blue Beetle, Firestorm, Hawkgirl & Nightwing after one issue (although I did like Hawkgirl and Blue Beetle and Firestorm showed promise - it's a matter of reducing the list rather than quality). I'm going to go re-read Flash to see if this goes on the list too.

Aquaman got ditched after two; I liked it but not enough.

I was going to drop Manhunter but decided to stick till the end - then it got another 5 issues. But last ish's family revelations will keep me around a bit longer.

If JSA wasn't ending, I'd have dropped it as the current storyline is dull.

Birds of Prey is on the bubble - not that the first OYL arc was bad, but...I'll probably stick to #100.

I'm planning on ending Superman/Action & Batman/Tec after the current storylines end - but the upcoming teams are so good I may not be able to.

I'm enjoying Teen Titans and Robin a lot (although not happy about Cass at all!) and think Tim Drake may be the best written OYL character.

Supergirl..I don't want to like this book, I really don't but it's like a car crash - horrific, but you can't look away. I am enjoying Supergirl and the Legion though - not sure, but it looks like Kara was split in two following the rift in space.

And then you have Wonder Woman. I'm on for the first full 5 issue arc then we'll see who takes over after Heinberg leaves.

Ender

06-27-2006, 10:21 AM

So far...

Keeping:
GLC (Is this technicaly OYL)
WW (I love the new Cheetah)
Secret Six
ION (That's right, sorry Kyle's my GL..even when he's not)
Batman
Detective
Teen Titans I collect in Trades.

On the fence:
Superman Books

Dropped:
Shadowpact
Flash (occasionaly artwork can be so distractingly bad I cannot get into a book)
Aquaman (before I finished the book)
JSA Classified

drwho

06-29-2006, 08:06 AM

Back with an update I am now dropping all Batman books and superman books. The oyl stories for them werent worth the paper they were printed on.

Sean Walsh

06-29-2006, 09:06 AM

I actually got rid of a few books when OYL even started up. All I have now is Teen Titans (which has gotten MUCH better) and JSA (I haven't really cared for this Gentlemen Ghost story, but it's decent and it ends next month before it relaunchs later this year).

It's weird: I loved INFINITE CRISIS and all the crossovery goodness.....yet once it ended and set off OYL I abandoned a lot of my usual DCU reading. Huh.

titanfan

06-29-2006, 09:30 AM

I picked up at least one issue of everything one month later:

Dropped:
- All Bat Books and Superman Books
- Nightwing (Every Nightwing writer is worse than the last)
- Robin (Ok, I picked up the whole first arc *because* it was so train wreck bad--good thing I never liked Batgirl to begin with)
- JSA Classified (Vandal Savage? *snore*)

Bubble:
- Hawkgirl
- Outsiders (I love the line-up, hate the first story arc)

Added:
- Aquaman
- Shadowpact (Probably the only one alive who likes the art)
- Blue Beetle (This book is *really* good, imho)
- Checkmate (Loving it!)
- 52
- Secret Six

protege

06-29-2006, 05:27 PM

My purging of titles continues;I only added Hawkgirl to see if Hawkman comes back- since i'm pretty sure that's NOT him who shows up in #54, I'll probably drop it. Supergirl and the legion- this last issue put me to sleep,; I picked it up beccause of Supergirl, and who knows what's going on in her title, but i can't get into her here. Blue Beetle- well, this issue was a little better, but this thing is moving at a snail's pace, and i have no clear idea about who's after him, and why. Also, this burden of the armor thing has got to go. He feels the heroes hate him becasue they abandoned him? I'd really like this book to be not so heavy on the angst, please. and how about some real super villains, huh? I mean, what direction is this book going in, anyway? Wonder Woman, I'm reading as long as Donna Troy is WW; after that, we'll see. Shadowpact- the art and boring plot lost me at issue #1.
That leaves Aquaman, Teen Titans, and Green Lantern, and I'm only reading the last one because of the Global Gaurdians subplot.Looking forward to JLA, and JSA relaunches; Once i found out who the new Flash was, i didn't even waste time on the book. I'm not sure about Uncle Sam and the Freedom Fighters- the art is too different, and the political subtext is putting me to sleep. I like the new Atom, but I'm not sure how long I'll be interested in this "weird science" angle the book has going for it. I may pick up Action comics again once Johns comes on board.

nuclearman

06-29-2006, 10:33 PM

Birds of Prey. I was hoping for some big change but it's just the same old same old.

I dropped birds of prey.. just didn't like it. Art work was kinda cool though.

Merey

06-30-2006, 08:24 AM

Robin
Green Arrow
Wonder Woman

Tempted to drop Nightwing until the new writer (whomever that may be) starts.

DLH1970

06-30-2006, 10:01 AM

Catwoman
Hawkgirl
Nightwing
Superman

geordiesteve

07-03-2006, 03:27 AM

Tried - Aquaman, Nightwing, Robin, Birds of Prey, Wonder Woman, Flash, Blue Beetle, 52, All Star books, (technically not OYL but still) Green Lantern

Dropped all but Green Lantern, (only had one WW and Flash, so giving them time yet) Can only see myself continuing with either of them if they change, as in Flash doesn't become him vs Rogues gallery every week. I was very bored by that, and I hope Heinberg can make WW fascinating and interesting.

Tequilamokinbrd

07-05-2006, 12:23 PM

I bought the first OYL issue of every book they put out, and only Blood of The Demon didn't make it to a second buy for me. I just couldn't get into it.

Aquaman, Ion, Shadowpact, Hawkgirl, and Supergirl and the Legion of Superheroes made it to issue 2. Gave them an extra ish to see where they were taking it, and that's all they got.

Blue Beetle, Catwoman, Birds of Prey, Outsiders, Teen Titans, Firestorm, Batman/'Tec, Superman/Action, Robin, Secret Six, The Spectre are all still enjoyable reads for me, with Blue Beetle being the nice suprise that I didn't expect to enjoy as much as I do, reads a lot like the new Firestorm to me.

Bought Flash and Wonder Woman's new #1's, enjoyed Wonder Woman, Flash not so much. Still getting #2 of both, Flash because I like Bart as a character even though there was nothinig wrong with the Jay/Wally/Bart Dynamic IMHO, and Wonder Woman because I'm digging it plain and simple.

Which brings me to Nightwing.....

Eaisily my least favorite OYL book, but I love Dick Grayson as a character so I keep coming back because I want it to turn around. Just when I think it can't get any worse things that make me cringe keep happening. If you're not reading, here's what you're missing....

-Dick Grayson, who led the Titans, and Fought Friggin Amazo hand to hand alongside batman not all that long ago, who went to take on Superboy Prime and Alex Luthor and only brought Conner Kent with him even though he knew full well that they were casually creating and destroying earths, freaks out because he kicks a guy in the face only to find out he's a (gasp!) metahuman.

-Jason Todd started stalking Dick and going out to fight crime as Nightwing

-Dick started working as a male model, did a runway show dressed as Nightwing, and then jumped off stage and fought Jason Todd in front of God knows how many people

-Dick's also sleeping with his boss, who has superpowers and didn't want to know Dick's last name after they were together

-Then we meet a midget psychic shapeshifting monster who put Jason Todd in a bubble

-And when all that wasn't enough, Dick's metahuman boss decided to fight crime as Nightwing, which brings our grand total of Nightwings to 3

I'm sorry, that really turned into a rant.....

Tequilamokinbrd

07-05-2006, 12:34 PM

In ranting about Nightwing, I forgot about a few

Battle For Bludhaven has been almost unreadable for me, but I've been sticking with it because I like Captain Atom and I don't want to miss anything that happens regarding him.

Checkmate is on the bubble, there are a lot of elements that I like(Mr. Terrific), but just as many that I can't stand, with Alan Scott instantly coming to mind. It feels like he's a character that they didn't get to use in the old Amalgam Universe so they just stuck him here; Alan Fury: Agent of Checkmate.

And brave new world was terrible, grabbing All New Atom because it's a morrison idea written by Gail Simone using a character concept I've always liked. Did anyone get that Martian Manhunter story? Yikes, after that and what he did with Hush in Gotham Knights, I'm really starting to dislike A.J. Leiberman.

Hellstormer

07-05-2006, 01:28 PM

Checkmate is on the bubble, there are a lot of elements that I like(Mr. Terrific), but just as many that I can't stand, with Alan Scott instantly coming to mind. It feels like he's a character that they didn't get to use in the old Amalgam Universe so they just stuck him here; Alan Fury: Agent of Checkmate.
.Hey Alan had a Amalagam counter-part
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/allstrwn5.jpg
Behold the Human Lantern

Sean Walsh

07-05-2006, 02:07 PM

Oh yeah, forgot about CHECKMATE.

CHECKMATE is the one new OYL book I've tried. It's good.

And with the Suicide Squad on the way in, it's staying right where it is on my pull list. :)

ocelotrevs

07-05-2006, 02:13 PM

Jeff F

07-05-2006, 02:26 PM

The only books I'm not really feeling thus far are Hawkgirl and Blue Beetle.

I like Kendra, but I really feel like more stuff should be happening. Lots of character, not so much plot I suppose.

Blue Beetle is a bit of the same. I'm really interested in what the constume is all about and what it can do, I just want to find out faster. I suppose I don't really care about the kid's home life that much.

-Jason Todd started stalking Dick and going out to fight crime as Nightwing

-Dick started working as a male model, did a runway show dressed as Nightwing, and then jumped off stage and fought Jason Todd in front of God knows how many people

-Dick's also sleeping with his boss, who has superpowers and didn't want to know Dick's last name after they were together

-Then we meet a midget psychic shapeshifting monster who put Jason Todd in a bubble

-And when all that wasn't enough, Dick's metahuman boss decided to fight crime as Nightwing, which brings our grand total of Nightwings to 3

Thank you for reminding me why I've been loving the new Nightwing run!

Sean Walsh

07-05-2006, 02:56 PM

Which brings me to Nightwing.....

Eaisily my least favorite OYL book, but I love Dick Grayson as a character so I keep coming back because I want it to turn around. Just when I think it can't get any worse things that make me cringe keep happening. If you're not reading, here's what you're missing....

-Dick Grayson, who led the Titans, and Fought Friggin Amazo hand to hand alongside batman not all that long ago, who went to take on Superboy Prime and Alex Luthor and only brought Conner Kent with him even though he knew full well that they were casually creating and destroying earths, freaks out because he kicks a guy in the face only to find out he's a (gasp!) metahuman.

-Jason Todd started stalking Dick and going out to fight crime as Nightwing

-Dick started working as a male model, did a runway show dressed as Nightwing, and then jumped off stage and fought Jason Todd in front of God knows how many people

-Dick's also sleeping with his boss, who has superpowers and didn't want to know Dick's last name after they were together

-Then we meet a midget psychic shapeshifting monster who put Jason Todd in a bubble

-And when all that wasn't enough, Dick's metahuman boss decided to fight crime as Nightwing, which brings our grand total of Nightwings to 3

I'm sorry, that really turned into a rant.....

No worries. Marv Wolfman is on his way to NIGHTWING to save you. And us. :)

Hellstormer

07-05-2006, 08:24 PM

52.
I just thought "why am i buying filler?", and £1.70 a week over a year builds up. I'm just gonna read it in the shop.

I'm getting Wonder Woman, because of Heinberg, but I don't know how long i'll last on that.
Who's suppose to be on the new SS?

Deadshots a given and maybe Catman? Green Arrow would be cool since heroes have been in the Squad but he'll be busy with the new League.

chriskenny

07-05-2006, 10:11 PM

I am following the Batman books, Batman and Detective Comics. They are extremely predictable, story-wise, but I like the direction the books are taking. The direction in Batman seems more focused and I am glad to see Batman and Robin as partners. I think Paul Dini and Grant Morrison are going to be great.

I am going to be collecting the Superman books too. I wish they would announce the writer for Action Comics, I hope it is Geoff Johns and Richard Donner, the rumored writing team.

I am going to give the All-New Atom a try. Looks pretty good.

I will be reading Justice League of America and I will give Justice Society of America a try. I am trying to keep my load light and there isn't a lot of books out there that is demanding my attention.

BTW, this is only my OYL list. I plan on buying the trade for both All-Star Superman and Justice.

smoothjokes

07-06-2006, 03:49 PM

Batman
Detective Comics
Action Comics
Superman
Blue Beetle
Catwoman
Firestorm, the Nuclear Man
Nightwing
Robin
Shadowpact
Supergirl
Supergirl & the Legion of Super-Heroes

The only ones I kept reading were Batman & Detective Comics, everything else was dropped. I'm considering picking up Supergirl again, but S&LSH was really bad. Green Lantern I need to catch up on and I'm thinking of collecting the Aquaman Series as I heard it was extremely well written. Other than I haven't been impressed.

Nick Kal

07-06-2006, 04:03 PM

I tried most I think... I'm keeping all except Blue Beetle (It just isn't holding on to me), Shadowpact (Eh...) and that's it.

geordiesteve

07-07-2006, 02:12 AM

Tried:-

Aquaman - dropped it after 3 issues. I did like it but, something just didn't click with me,

Blue Beetle - tried one issue, that was enough.

Robin - hmmm, it's ok, but there again, didn't agree with some things in it so dropped it.

52 - didn't like it for a whole host of other reasons I've mentioned elsewhere.

Nightwing - no.....just no, no, no. Ugh.

Birds of Prey - read the first three issues......it was ok, but that's about all I can say about it. No zing or wow factor for me.

Only had one issue of Wonder Woman and Flash, so can't say yet about them.

estee

07-07-2006, 02:22 AM

Most of OYL is pretty meh...

-Titans is suddenly boring. Don't like any of the new characters.
-Hawkgirl needs a shot in the arm, as far as plot movement goes.
-Catwoman is lame without Selina in the lead role
-52, I just dropped. I can't stand the fact that I have to buy this title every week for a year. It pissed me off.
-Supergirl is keeping me interested, and the art is off the scale.
-Wonder Woman. Its too early to tell.
-Superman/Batman, its too early to tell on this title as well. There is a new creative team, so I'll reserve judgement for now.

I'll probably never drop Birds of Prey as long as Gail Simone is writing it. Even a bad issue of BoP is better than most of what's out there.

Looking forward to Morrison's Batman.

Bored at 3:00AM

07-07-2006, 02:28 AM

I tried the first OYL issue of every DC comic, I think. There may have been one or two that I missed...

Nightwing was, by far, the worst of the bunch. I simply don't understand how Bruce Jones continues to get comics work. His writing is pretentious, dull and moves at a snail's pace.

Outsiders also got the chop after the first issue. I enjoyed the first couple storyarcs of the book when it started up a few years back, but it quickly turned into the same generic grim n' gritty/"realistic" superhero stuff that'd been driven into the ground more than a decade ago.

Hawkgirl I had high hopes for, but did nothing for me.

I was really enjoying Catwoman prior to OYL, but my interest in it evaporated with the OYL jump.

The Flash was a complete dud for me. I didn't hate it, but it didn't work for me on any level.

I had high hopes for Shadowpact after the wonderfully quirky Day of Vengeance mini, but the first issue squashed that.

Ion didn't work for me, but I wasn't really expecting it to. I was hoping it would surprise me, but it didn't.

James Robinson's Batman/Detective arc left me cold.

Busiek, Johns & Woods' Superman/Action started off great, then ended with a resounding "meh" by the end. Great first half. Underwhelming second half.

However, I will definitely continue to pick up Superman & Batman titles thanks to the additions of Morrison, Pacheco, Dini & Donner.

Levitz, Rags & Ross' JSA was pretty decent, but not really spectacular.

So, that leaves Green Lantern & GLCorps, both of whom I'm absolutely loving, and Heinberg & the Dodson's Wonder Woman, which is the best Wonder Woman comic I've seen since Perez's first storyarc twenty years.

Oh, and I forgot about Aquaman: Sword of Atlantis, which I think is the strongest OYL later thus far. A big change that has paid off creatively.

Panjea

07-07-2006, 01:00 PM

So far, I have not been impressed by:

OYL:
-Nightwing (ugh)
-Hawkgirl
-JSA (Levitz and the gentleman ghost is almost making me forget how much I normally like JSA. Thankfully, Geoff John wil be back)
-Supergirl

Brave New World:
-Omac (I have noticed that Bruce Jones does not seem to be doing it for me)

That's all that I can think of at the moment...there is only so much pain that I can take...and thinking about the quality of some of the OYL books is very, very painful. ;)