Avengers League: Taskmaster v. Zombienorthstar

[Jessica Drew]

Welcome to the next match of the Avengers League! If you haven't been following the league, it is a large scale series of battles where posters draft teams and pit their teams against that of other posters, and you vote to decide who wins. When voting, please consider the strategies the players have written, rather than just the team's roster.

Each match is taking place on an empty battlefield, 100 yards away, and each character (with few exceptions) depicted is in his/her most frequent incarnation (therefore, no Iron Spidey or Extremis Iron Man), and the characters have to act in character (meaning that the heroes cannot kill if they aren't normally wont to do so).

If you have any questions about the strategies, please feel free to post these questions here, and the players will answer. The match will last twenty-four hours. After that time period, the player with the largest number of votes wins.

!!! - For your vote to count, you must have a post count of no lower than fifty.

Taskmaster's team: Invisible Woman, Count Nefaria, Sandman, Fixer, Executioner, Taskmaster, Brothers Grimm, Gorilla Man, Henry Peter Gyrich

Zombienorthstar's team: Hyperion, Scarlet Witch, Crystal, Machine Man, Marvel Boy, Klaw

[Jessica Drew]

Taskmaster's strategy:

Immediately upon entering the battle field Count Nefaria engages Hyperion (his near equal), Nefaria should be able to easily take on and at least stalemate Hyperion due to the fact that he has more fight training (for example his phenomenal fencing skills). At the same time Invisible Woman encases Klaw in a soundproof forcefield, slowly draining all the air from the field and leaving Klaw inside, she also encloses herself in one to keep herself form being attacked, Gyrich’s job at this point are to keep watch over Invisible Woman just incase somebody tries to get through her personal forcefield and warn her in advance, what Invisible Woman is doing is, to paraphrase Quasar, her fields are an electromagnetic phenomenon, but sound is a mechanical radiant energy transmitted through a medium such as air and it cannot exist in a vacuum that Invisible Woman is creating, forcing Klaw to collapse his sound generated body into his prosthetic device, defeating Klaw. While this is going on Fixer’s job is to assault Scarlet Witch with sonics, tranquilizer darts and anything else he can think of to keep her from casting a hex while Executioner creates a dimensional rift with his mystical axe and supprising Scarlet witch from behind, rendering her unconscious and out of this battle. Sandman’s first attack is against Marvel Boy who has no powers that Sandman hasn’t faced and defeated, his light blasts, enhanced strength and limited telepathy cannot affect Sandman and Sandman easily overpowers Marvel Boy, filling his mouth, throat and lungs with sand until Marvel Boy is taken out of the battle. The Brothers Grimm’s opening attack is against Crystal and their purpose is to keep her occupied and through an onslaught of paralyzing dust, acid filled eggs and exploding pies from all different directions (of them is in the air on an ethereal mist and one of them is on a flying star/trapeze) keeping Crystal form doing anything more than protecting herself and some brief attacks on the Brothers. Taskmaster and Gorilla Man’s first attacks are against Machine Man, hopelessly attacking the robot knowing that they only need distract him temporarily.

The next major step is up to Fixer and now that he and Executioner have taken out Scarlet Witch, Fixer attacks Machine Man. The strength of Gorilla Man and skills of Taskmaster distract X-51 for plenty of time to allow Fixer to use his tech pack (which can communicate with any mechanical device) and easily take control of Machine Man (considering the machines, alien tech and robots Fixer has taken control of in the past this should be little challenge) and shutting the mechanical man down, taking Machine Man out of the battle. Nefaria brings his battle with the closely matched Hyperion to the ground where Executioner can aid him and aided by the Asgardian’s additional strength, as well as his mystical axe, the two men finally defeat Hyperion. After defeating Marvel Boy, Sandman enters the attack of Crystal alongside the Brothers Grimm and together the three men keep her occupied long enough that she doesn’t notice Invisible Woman’s attack who, without releasing the inert Klaw, creates invisible force fields withing Crystal’s lungs, cutting off her air supply and knocking Crystal out.

The only possible member of the opposing team still standing at this point is a slight possibility that Executioner and Nefaria haven’t completely defeated Hyperion. There is only a 5% chance that Hyperion could take on a Far ABOVE AVERAGE Asgardian (class 75) as well as a physical equal, but just in case anybody believes it possible at this point, if that slight possibility has occurred, the rest of the team joins the attack and adding the enhanced strength of Sandman (class 85), gorilla strength of Gorilla Man and force fields of Invisible Woman added to the already massive amount of power that has destroyed Hyperion should finish him off easily.

[Jessica Drew]

Zombienorthstar's strategy:


Hyperion flies full pelt at Nefaria. Now whilst I expect Sue Storm to put up a shield Hyperion can fly in excess of 25,000 mph which means he’ll probably get to Nefaria before she can ever blink. He’ll take Nefaria into the air. Now both Nefaria and Hyperion are in excess of class level 100 and both go at the speed of escape velocity. Therefore their fight should be evenly matched. However, to shift probability in Hyperion’s favour the Scarlet Witch will be hex bolting the hell out of Nefaria. Some may think this will make very little difference, however, due to the Scarlet Witch’s experience with beings of an ionic nature (having once channelled Wonder Man in his ionic form) I think she’s more than able to tip the balance of the fight. Hyperion will keep fighting and the Scarlet Witch will keep using her bolts to

Crystal is going to use her control of the earth and seismic tremorsup to 6.7 on the Richter scale to destabilise the Invisible Woman (I know she doesn’t need to have someone in her line of sight to use her powers but she must have to concentrate). Once sues disorientated Crystal will use her wind powers…If Sue has raised herself or the team onto a platform Crystal will use her wind powers straightaway instead. (being able to create winds of approximately 115 mph…its more than enough to at least send Sues team-mates flying around which would at the very least prove a distraction)

Marvel Boy will anticipate the Fixers plan to try to harm Machine Man…therefore Marvel Boy will telepathically take control of the Sandman…he will use his prodigious abilities to blitz Fixer…damaging his circuitry and stripping away his parts.

Meanwhile Machine Man is using his gas abilities to take out the Brothers Grimm. If they are using their levitation cloud of ethereal mist Machine Man will simply follow them using his anti gravity floats.

Klaw will take on Taskmaster and Gorilla Man. While highly skilled these characters are essentially just human (or human like in the case of Gorilla Man) Klaw will focus his powers into concussive force (with a maximum force equivalent to 3,000 pounds of TNT) Klaws a villain so he’s really going to let loose. He will kill Taskmaster with such a blast…and at least knock the immortal Gorilla Man into unconsciousness.

After this initial blast Klaw will create sonic constructs of a predatory animal (doesn’t really matter which) to take down Gyrich.

The he’s going to round on the Executioner (I know Klaw’s taking on a lot but they should all just be recovering for Crystals disorientation) Klaw is going to concussive blast The Executioner repeatedly. If the Fixer has been destroyed by this time or at least incapacitated, Marvel Boy will calm him with images of Amora, the Enchantress, convincing him to stop fighting and fall asleep.

Now, this may all have taken about twenty minutes with Crystal continuing to keep the Invisible Woman in motion throughout (not a problem as she can maintain her abilities for up to an hour) By this time Brothers Grimm, Taskmaster, Gorilla Man, Fixer, Gyrich and hopefully Nefaria should either be unconscious or dead. This leaves Sand Man and Invisible Woman. Hyperion will be poised above where Crystal is throwing Sue Storm around. As will Machine Man and the Scarlet Witch. Crystal lets Sue drop…Hyperion hits her with death ray, Machine Man hits her with electricity blasts and the Scarlet Witch hexes the hell out of her. The sheer fore of Hyperion’s beams should at least exhaust Sue quite quickly…forcing her into unconsciousness.

While Marvel Boy keeps Sandman at bay through a mixture of telekinesis and telepathy Crystal uses her powers to mix the hydrogen and oxygen particles in the air to create a large volume of water (about 15,000 gallons is what she can control) she then uses it to wash Sandman away. A tactic that has been used on him many times before.

[Nightcrawler]

-Sue Storm is definately above distraction. She has so much experience, I don't think Crystal's attacks are going to affect her much.

-I don't think Sandman can be mentally controlled, because he is sand. And if he's not controlled, zombienorthstar's strategy kinda falls apart.

-You both had the Nefaria/Hyperion fight, and I agree that it's about equal.

I give this one to Taskmaster. His strategy took out a lot of key players quickly.

[Sean Whitmore]

I'm gonna need to see more discussion before I can choose one over the other. I like Zombie using Scarlet Witch to aid Hyperion against Nefaria, but Taskmaster did know to take her out early. Some talking points:

Taskmaster's strat
Does Nefaria's fencing ability really come into play during a hand-to-hand-to-laser battle? He's really just a powerful dandy, isn't he?

Can Sue maker her force fields soundproof? Has she ever?

Why can't Sandman be mind controlled? He's been brainwashed, after all.


Zombie
Does Marvel Boy really have the juice to control Sandman and knock out Executioner? Alone, neither of these tasks can be easy.

Can Klaw take out Taskmaster and Gorilla Man before Executioner can get to his feet?

Crystal alone can't keep Sue from acting for all that time, can she?


SEAN

[Taskmaster]

-Sue Storm is definately above distraction. She has so much experience, I don't think Crystal's attacks are going to affect her much.

-I don't think Sandman can be mentally controlled, because he is sand. And if he's not controlled, zombienorthstar's strategy kinda falls apart.

-You both had the Nefaria/Hyperion fight, and I agree that it's about equal.

I give this one to Taskmaster. His strategy took out a lot of key players quickly.

Nope Sandy can't be mentally controlled due to his unique physical attributes and plus it's been stated that in the Marvel Universe Marvel Boy doesn't have Telepathic abilities any claim that he did was a mistake(most recently in the Agents of Atlas previews), certainly not at the level to take over anyone

[Zombienorthstar]

Nope Sandy can't be mentally controlled due to his unique physical attributes and plus it's been stated that in the Marvel Universe Marvel Boy doesn't have Telepathic abilities any claim that he did was a mistake(most recently in the Agents of Atlas previews), certainly not at the level to take over anyone


I dont think we can count previews....why do most sources list him as having telepathy much like the Uranians then?

[Sean Whitmore]

I don't see why Sandy can't be mentally controlled. He has a mind, after all. And he was brainwashed.


SEAN

[Taskmaster]

I'm gonna need to see more discussion before I can choose one over the other. I like Zombie using Scarlet Witch to aid Hyperion against Nefaria, but Taskmaster did know to take her out early. Some talking points:

Taskmaster's strat
Does Nefaria's fencing ability really come into play during a hand-to-hand-to-laser battle? He's really just a powerful dandy, isn't he?

Can Sue maker her force fields soundproof? Has she ever?

Why can't Sandman be mind controlled? He's been brainwashed, after all.


Zombie
Does Marvel Boy really have the juice to control Sandman and knock out Executioner? Alone, neither of these tasks can be easy.

Can Klaw take out Taskmaster and Gorilla Man before Executioner can get to his feet?

Crystal alone can't keep Sue from acting for all that time, can she?


SEAN

The way I looked at it a skill in fencing provides at least basic comba skills and that is more than Hyperion even himself has said he possesses. Hyperion by his own words has basically said he is only brute force and in a battle so evenly matched even a basic fighting skill would give Nefaria an advantage. IMO nothing Marvel Boy could do would even phase Skurge, he is no ordinary Asgardian and has show far above average skill and durability for an Asgardian (not to mention his strength. Sandman's brainwashing came at the hands of a mechanical genius who was specifically targeting Sandman, no telepathy involved just technology specifically geared to take out Sandy's unique mind (think about how it has to be since he can control each grain of sand individually at the very least if a telepath could affect him it would take a Professor Xavier level power and skill to even begin to work on Flint and even that would barely scratch the surface).

Taskmaster could easily avoid Klaw since he is just a notch below Klaw's arch enemy Black Panther in skill (even having some of the same moves). Crystal wouldn't have a chance at handling the much more experienced Invisible Woman, who has easily avoided most of Crystal's attacks in any battles they have ever had.

[Taskmaster]

I dont think we can count previews....why do most sources list him as having telepathy much like the Uranians then?

They list it incorrectly, he was given the Bands by the Uranians, no inherant powers in any of the appearances I know of

[Zombienorthstar]

They list it incorrectly, he was given the Bands by the Uranians, no inherant powers in any of the appearances I know of


He develops strength and telepathy from living amongst the Uranians

Marvel Boy #1-2.

Astonishing #3-6


The reason his history is vague is because he is such an old character.

[Taskmaster]

He develops strength and telepathy from living amongst the Uranians

Marvel Boy #1-2.

Astonishing #3-6


The reason his history is vague is because he is such an old character.

Yeah, but that was in his none Marvel/Avengers appearnces, the Marvel Universe version seen in What If #9, Avengers Forever 4-5, soon to be Agents of Atlas and his Fantastic Four appearance as the Crusader seem to have different abilities to my knowledge and wouldn't that technically be the majority of his apperances (especially Avengers appearances)

[Zombienorthstar]

Yeah, but that was in his none Marvel/Avengers appearnces, the Marvel Universe version seen in What If #9, Avengers Forever 4-5, soon to be Agents of Atlas and his Fantastic Four appearance as the Crusader seem to have different abilities to my knowledge and wouldn't that technically be the majority of his apperances (especially Avengers appearances)


Well im just saying what ive learned...everytime ive looked for info on the Crusader/Marvel Boy they've listed him as a telekinetic/telepath...i posted that as one of his abbilities and NO ONE disputed it...

So therefore i feel it should be allowed. Its not like ive fabricated an abbility...

[Sean Whitmore]

-Sue Storm is definately above distraction.


Ironically, distraction would work best against Hyperion.

Nefaria: "Hyperion, look at that rock! It's evil!"

Hyperion: "I'LL get it!"


SEAN

[Taskmaster]

Well im just saying what ive learned...everytime ive looked for info on the Crusader/Marvel Boy they've listed him as a telekinetic/telepath...i posted that as one of his abbilities and NO ONE disputed it...

So therefore i feel it should be allowed. Its not like ive fabricated an abbility...

I still can't find where you posted Marvel Boy or Klaw's abilities and did my own research and going by the fact that we go by the most well known and commonly shown abilities of the character I feel i'm free to debate it, but even if he did I still stand by my above argument of why this attack wouldn't work anyways even if he did have those abilities

[Taskmaster]

Well im just saying what ive learned...everytime ive looked for info on the Crusader/Marvel Boy they've listed him as a telekinetic/telepath...i posted that as one of his abbilities and NO ONE disputed it...

So therefore i feel it should be allowed. Its not like ive fabricated an abbility...

Just did a double and triple check of the thread and there is no mention of Klaw or Marvel Boys abilities that I can find posted by you in a description thread

[kentonator]

he makes mention of marvel boys abilities he even posts a link to them

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/m/marvelboyatlas.htm

[Taskmaster]

he makes mention of marvel boys abilities he even posts a link to them

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/m/marvelboyatlas.htm

In this thread yes, but not in the main Avengers league thread where he describes all his other team members (except Klaw)

also that link is for the Atlas, not marvel, version

[Zombienorthstar]

In this thread yes, but not in the main Avengers league thread where he describes all his other team members (except Klaw)

also that link is for the Atlas, not marvel, version


You are aware the Atlas, Timely and Marvel are considered the same universe....right?

[the invincible ironfran-cis]

Klaw was a villian--the master of sound.

He was originally just human with a ray gun of sorts on on arm--alla Bruce Campell--hence the name "Klaw."

Then somehow his body was transformed into solidified sound--and he got scray looking.

I liked Claw as one of the Masters of Evil.

Last I remember him: he was being cut up into little pieces by Dr. Doom after Doom acquired the Beyonder's powers in the Secret Wars.

[Llamablaster]

Whoops... Disregard my vote... didn't notice the fifty post restriction.

I suppose that's in place to eliminate multiple account shenanigans, eh?

[Sean Whitmore]

Whoops... Disregard my vote... didn't notice the fifty post restriction.

I suppose that's in place to eliminate multiple account shenanigans, eh?



Didn't stop me. I'm also Will S. :)


SEAN

[Sean Whitmore]

I think I gotta go with Tasky. He took the Witch out early, leaving Zombie unable to perform his teammup against Nefaria.


SEAN

[Zombienorthstar]

Whoops... Disregard my vote... didn't notice the fifty post restriction.

I suppose that's in place to eliminate multiple account shenanigans, eh?


Ahh crap...you were voting for me! lol

[Taskmaster]

You are aware the Atlas, Timely and Marvel are considered the same universe....right?

True, but there are variances, little differences and continuity differences, much of the Timely stuff isn't considered cannon in the Marvel Universe

[Taskmaster]

Klaw was a villian--the master of sound.

He was originally just human with a ray gun of sorts on on arm--alla Bruce Campell--hence the name "Klaw."

Then somehow his body was transformed into solidified sound--and he got scray looking.

I liked Claw as one of the Masters of Evil.

Last I remember him: he was being cut up into little pieces by Dr. Doom after Doom acquired the Beyonder's powers in the Secret Wars.

I know who Klaw is, I was just stating that there was no descriptin of him in the main Avenger's League Thread (or Marvel Boy) to my knowledge, sorry for the confusion

[da noble savage]

I know who Klaw is, I was just stating that there was no descriptin of him in the main Avenger's League Thread (or Marvel Boy) to my knowledge, sorry for the confusion

he did here it is

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taskmaster
Quick question, is my fight tommorrow or Thursday because I thought we skipped Wed due to it being a day of mass importance (new comic day ) also did my noble opponent for this week post a description of Klaw and Marvel Boy on this list because I want to make sure we're talking about the same characters (especially in the Marvel Boy case)


This is a link for Marvel Boy

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/m/marvelboyatlas.htm


and Klaw is the Fantastic Four villain who uses sound.
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[da noble savage]

hmm well I guess it comes down to wheither or not sandman can be mentally controlled if he can marvel boy use's him to take out fixer with stop's him from distracting scarelt with and leaveing her open to the attack from excutioner and by the way I know I'm butchering this names but it's late and I got no spell check. Anyway if that happen's she help hyprion tag team the count. Puting taskmaster's team at a disadvantage also how does sue do while being dirstracted If crystal can distract her then that also really screw's up taskmaster's plan's.

[Zombienorthstar]

he did here it is

Quote:
Originally Posted by Taskmaster
Quick question, is my fight tommorrow or Thursday because I thought we skipped Wed due to it being a day of mass importance (new comic day ) also did my noble opponent for this week post a description of Klaw and Marvel Boy on this list because I want to make sure we're talking about the same characters (especially in the Marvel Boy case)


This is a link for Marvel Boy

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/m/marvelboyatlas.htm


and Klaw is the Fantastic Four villain who uses sound.
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Thats not what hes tlaking bout dude...hes talking bout the character specification thing..i defientley did one (spent ages copying stuff out of Marvel handbook:D ) but i have had soem problems with my computer and posts getting altered.

Ill be sure to check with jess whether Marvel Boy is allowed telepathy for the next battle...

[Zombienorthstar]

hmm well I guess it comes down to wheither or not sandman can be mentally controlled if he can marvel boy use's him to take out fixer with stop's him from distracting scarelt with and leaveing her open to the attack from excutioner and by the way I know I'm butchering this names but it's late and I got no spell check. Anyway if that happen's she help hyprion tag team the count. Puting taskmaster's team at a disadvantage also how does sue do while being dirstracted If crystal can distract her then that also really screw's up taskmaster's plan's.


Plus, its not so much being 'distracted' as being thrown around in the air by tornado like winds of 115 mph....due to the dust etc...not only would sue not be able to see crystal and the others, shed not be able to hear etc...it would leave her disorientate...probably vommiting :D I doubt whether sue would randomly lash out with her powers as she wouldnt want to risk killing someone.

[Taskmaster]

Plus, its not so much being 'distracted' as being thrown around in the air by tornado like winds of 115 mph....due to the dust etc...not only would sue not be able to see crystal and the others, shed not be able to hear etc...it would leave her disorientate...probably vommiting :D I doubt whether sue would randomly lash out with her powers as she wouldnt want to risk killing someone.

Yeah, but how could Invisible Woman get lifted when her forcefield could anchor her to the ground

[Zombienorthstar]

Yeah, but how could Invisible Woman get lifted when her forcefield could anchor her to the ground


Hence why right before i use the winds i destroy the ground beneath her using seismic tremors... So she may be attached to a piece of ground still...but thats just flying around with her...

[Taskmaster]

Thanks for a good fight Zombienorthstar and good luck for the rest of the League!

WHOOO HOO GO TEAM!

[Zombienorthstar]

Thanks for a good fight Zombienorthstar and good luck for the rest of the League!

WHOOO HOO GO TEAM!


Good fight man same for you.

Now that the fight is over i can admit...even in writing the strategey i knew the odds didnt look good for me...it wasnt who was on your team...but the sheer number of them...It was six against ten...which made it very hard for me...

Well done, you were very clever in the draft stage. If i hadnt been me i would have voted for you. The best man won.

[Sean Whitmore]

It was six against ten...which made it very hard for me...


Dude, story of my life. :)


SEAN