The Ten Commandments

[ragnarok_2012]

Last week, on the Colbert Report, I saw a segment where Stephen Colbert interviewed a Republican Congressman named Lynn Westmoreland. Westmoreland is in favor of posting the Ten Commandments in public buildings, so Colbert asked him to name all Ten Commandments.

Westmoreland got 3.

So I've been doing a little informal survey. I've asked various people on my blog and on MSN Messenger how many they can name. Without looking them up, post all the Commandments you can name. For simplicity's sake, you don't have to quote them verbatim. Just simply and clearly state the commandment.

So far: I've asked Spike-X, Stony, Mike Smash, and Darkblade. I got 8. Spike-X got 8. Mike Smash, who is of course an atheist, got 7. Stony, in order to best Mike, managed 8. Bouncing Boy got either 7 or 8. Darkblade so far is the only one who can name all 10 from memory.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/06/15.html#a8728 Here's a link to the interview.

EDIT: Please use spoiler tags when posting the Commandments.

[Michael P]

Going from memory, the Protestant version:

1. I am the Lord thy God. Thou shalt have no other gods before Me.

2. Thou shalt not worship any graven images.

3. Remember the Sabbath day, and keep it holy.

4. Honor thy father and thy mother.

5. Thou shalt not kill.

6. Thou shalt not steal.

7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.

8. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.

9. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife.

10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's ass, nor his house, nor his cart, nor anything that is thy neighbor's.

[Michael P]

Incidentally, that interview makes the ending scene of the pilot episode of The West Wing a lot funnier now.

[shadowraven]

I'm probably not going to get them all, but I'll give it a try. Keep in mind I'm athiest and from a non-religious family. I'm going to state them in general terms, since I don't know the actual wording.


don't kill
don't steal
no adultery/fornication
don't covet what your neighbour's possessions
honour your parents
worship god
don't worship any other gods
don't bear false witness


I can't remember the other two, and wouldn't know the order.

[ragnarok_2012]

Going from memory, the Protestant version:

1. I am the Lord thy God. Thou shalt have no other gods before Me.

2. Thou shalt not worship any graven images.

3. Remember the Sabbath day, and keep it holy.

4. Honor thy father and thy mother.

5. Thou shalt not kill.

6. Thou shalt not steal.

7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.

8. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.

9. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife.

10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's ass, nor his house, nor his cart, nor anything that is thy neighbor's.

I'd give you a 9.

You didn't include "Thou Shalt Not Take the Lord's Name in Vain" as a Commandment. To my albeit limited knowledge, I think coveting thy neighbor's wife, ass, house, etc. is all one commandment.

Wikipedia's entry for the Ten Commandments, protestant version, seems to back me up.

[Spike-X]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v235/Spike-X/westmorelandpwned.jpg

Man, I love seeing hypocrites like this get their comeuppance. Love it.

[ragnarok_2012]

I'm probably not going to get them all, but I'll give it a try. Keep in mind I'm athiest and from a non-religious family. I'm going to state them in general terms, since I don't know the actual wording.


don't kill
don't steal
no adultery/fornication
don't covet what your neighbour's possessions
honour your parents
worship god
don't worship any other gods
don't bear false witness


I can't remember the other two, and wouldn't know the order.

An 8 isn't bad.


I'll give you "worship god" for "Keep the Sabbath holy."

[Michael P]

I'd give you a 9.

You didn't include "Thou Shalt Not Take the Lord's Name in Vain" as a Commandment. To my albeit limited knowledge, I think coveting thy neighbor's wife, ass, house, etc. is all one commandment.

Wikipedia's entry for the Ten Commandments, protestant version, seems to back me up.

Yeah, I realized I didn't get that one a few minutes after I posted.

The memory from my bible had "No other gods" and "graven images" combined, and the two coveing commandments split. But I think that's Lutheran-specific.

[ragnarok_2012]

Yeah, I realized I didn't get that one a few minutes after I posted.

The memory from my bible had "No other gods" and "graven images" combined, and the two coveing commandments split. But I think that's Lutheran-specific.


Going by wikipedia, that's the way Lutherans & Catholics split them up. You still missed taking the Lord's name in vain, but you still bested my score of 8.

You could be ready for a Congressional run.

[Michael P]

Going by wikipedia, that's the way Lutherans & Catholics split them up. You still missed taking the Lord's name in vain, but you still bested my score of 8.Wasn't disputing my score, just offering my people's perspective.

You could be ready for a Congressional run.

http://www.ecranlarge.com/images/dossiers/contenu/firefly_jayne.jpg

"That's just unsettlin'."

[Grazzt]

Do we need them in order?

My out of order list:

Thou shalt not steal.
Thou shalt not lie.
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbours wife.
Thou shalt not kill.
Thou shalt have no other God before me.
Thou shalt not take my name in vain.
Honour thy father and mother.

All I got, sadly.

[Spike-X]

See, the thing with people like this is, they're usually the first to vote down any kind of social programs, welfare, etc. "We don't need to be in the charity business," they'll say, "There's plenty of fine church-run charities that are very good at this kind of thing." But give these mealy-mouthed holier-than-thou hypocrites a chance to use Government money to shove their religion down other people's throats, and they're all over it.

So basically, they want to make churches responsible for people's physical well-being, while making the Government responsible for their spiritual well-being. What's wrong with this picture?

[Expletive Deleted]

Let's see here. How well do I remember catechism? In a mix of vernacular and mangled Thor-speak . . .
1. I am the Lord Your God, you shall have no other god before me.
2. Remember the Sabbath Day and keep it holy.
3. Don't take the Lord's name in vain.
4. No graven images
5. Honor thy father and thy Mother.
6. Thou shalt not kill.
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
8. Thou shalt not steal.
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness.
10. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife, house, or ass.
I think I may have conflated one or two of those and split one or two others. I was raised UCC, if that matters.

[Winslow]

1. Have no other gods
2. Make no graven image
3. Do not take the Lord’s name in vain
4. Remember the Sabbath
5. Honor your Father and Mother
6. Do not commit adultery
7. Do Not Lie (swear falsely
8. Do not Murder
9. Do not steal
10. Do Not Covet

Not sure I got the order right.

[ragnarok_2012]

As far as I'm concerned, Expletive is now the second person to get 10 out of 10!

Yeah, different groups split them up differently, but you still got them IMHO.

Grazzt got 7. Which is again still better than the Congressman.

[Solaris]

Last week, on the Colbert Report, I saw a segment where Stephen Colbert interviewed a Republican Congressman named Lynn Westmoreland. Westmoreland is in favor of posting the Ten Commandments in public buildings, so Colbert asked him to name all Ten Commandments.

Westmoreland got 3.

So I've been doing a little informal survey. I've asked various people on my blog and on MSN Messenger how many they can name. Without looking them up, post all the Commandments you can name. For simplicity's sake, you don't have to quote them verbatim. Just simply and clearly state the commandment.

So far: I've asked Spike-X, Stony, Mike Smash, and Darkblade. I got 8. Spike-X got 8. Mike Smash, who is of course an atheist, got 7. Stony, in order to best Mike, managed 8. Bouncing Boy got either 7 or 8. Darkblade so far is the only one who can name all 10 from memory.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/06/15.html#a8728 Here's a link to the interview.

EDIT: Please use spoiler tags when posting the Commandments.


spoiler hope I got the color right....


Not necessarily in the correct order here...


1. Thou shalt have no other God before Me.
2. Honor thy father and mother.
3. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. (I'm not sure if this one is right; may be confusing Jesus's sermons with this one.)
4. Thou shalt not take the Lord's name in vain.
5. Covet not thy neighbor's wife.
6. Something about not using/worshiping graven images of the Lord.
7. Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy.
8. Thou shalt not commit murder.
9. Thou shalt not steal.
10. Thou shalt not bear false witness (lie).


How'd I do?

[Solaris]

And, may I add, I find it VERY AMUSING (and rather pathetic) that the congresswoman in question could only name three of them. Clearly illustrative of the ignorance behind her movement, IMO.

:mad:

[Grazzt]

spoiler hope I got the color right....

You should probably use the tag. Otherwise, if someone quotes you, the people reading the response post will see what you want to say.

[spoil]See how easy that was?

[SOGG]

1.) I'm god. There can be only one.
2.) Keep my day holy.
3.) Don't say stuff like 'goddamnit', goddamnit
4.) Honour your mum and dad
5.) Don't kill
6.) Don't steal
7.) No Adultery
8.) Don't lie about other people
9.) Your neighbour's Porsche is off limits
10.) As is his model wife. (It actually says wife in the bible, so I guess it's ok to covet the menfolk.)

[ragnarok_2012]

spoiler hope I got the color right....


Not necessarily in the correct order here...


1. Thou shalt have no other God before Me.
2. Honor thy father and mother.
3. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. (I'm not sure if this one is right; may be confusing Jesus's sermons with this one.)
4. Thou shalt not take the Lord's name in vain.
5. Covet not thy neighbor's wife.
6. Something about not using/worshiping graven images of the Lord.
7. Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy.
8. Thou shalt not commit murder.
9. Thou shalt not steal.
10. Thou shalt not bear false witness (lie).


How'd I do?

Solaris got 9!

You did a wonderful job matching the color of the text, but you can also use
[ spoil ]
[ / spoil ]

(without the spaces) to get the same effect.


Number 3 isn't a commandment. So far, the most common non-commandment I've heard is "Love Thy Neighbor As Thyself."

Coveting thy neighbor's wife, house & property is a distinct commandment from "Do not commit adultery." Some groups divide "Do not covet thy neighbor's wife" and "Do not covet thy neighbor's property" and lump "No graven images" & "Thou Shalt Have No Other Gods Before Me" into one commandment.


Winslow got 10 out of 10!

[ragnarok_2012]

SOGG has gotten 10 out of 10.

And Lynn Westmoreland is a male, Solaris. I highly recommend the video.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/06/15.html#a8728 has the video and a partial transcript.

[SOGG]

SOGG has gotten 10 out of 10.

And Lynn Westmoreland is a male, Solaris. I highly recommend the video.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/06/15.html#a8728 has the video and a partial transcript.

Believe it or not. (And most people here will be shocked at this) I was a sacristan AND an Opus Dei initiate when I was young.

The whole 'Can't enjoy sex.' just killed it for me.

[Guapo Méndez]

Roman Catholic version.


Last time I posted what I remembered of my commandments, I got a lot of heat. So, here they are in spanish, from 20 years ago.

1.- Amarás a Dios sobre todas las cosas.
2.- No usarás el nombre de tu Dios en vano.
3.- Santificarás las fiestas.
4.- Honrarás a tu padre y a tu madre.
5.- No matarás
6.- No fornicarás
7.- No robarás
8.- No levantarás falso testimonio ni mentirás
9- No codiciarás la mujer de tu prójimo.
10.- No codiciarás las cosas ajenas.

[ragnarok_2012]

Roman Catholic version.


Last time I posted what I remembered of my commandments, I got a lot of heat. So, here they are in spanish, from 20 years ago.

1.- Amarás a Dios sobre todas las cosas.
2.- No usarás el nombre de tu Dios en vano.
3.- Santificarás las fiestas.
4.- Honrarás a tu padre y a tu madre.
5.- No matarás
6.- No fornicarás
7.- No robarás
8.- No levantarás falso testimonio ni mentirás
9- No codiciarás la mujer de tu prójimo.
10.- No codiciarás las cosas ajenas.

Looks good to me.

10 out of 10!


I didn't realize "fiesta" could be used to refer to the Sabbath.

[SOGG]

you know, the spanish version sounds like it makes more sense (and might be truer to the latin.)

For ex: 'matar' vs 'kill'

Also, I find it cool that commandment #1, spanish type sort of removes the jealous aspect.

-- agnostic, btw. In case Ragnarok is tabulating data or something.

[ragnarok_2012]

you know, the spanish version sounds like it makes more sense (and might be truer to the latin.)

For ex: 'matar' vs 'kill'

Also, I find it cool that commandment #1, spanish type sort of removes the jealous aspect.

-- agnostic, btw. In case Ragnarok is tabulating data or something.

I'm certainly curious.

For the record, I'm an agnostic who finds religion fascinating. I went to a Catholic School for 4 years, and I've even been to the Vatican. So I tend to know a bit more about the Catholic Church than, say, the Lutherans.

For that matter, thanks to South Park I know more about the Mormons than a lot of protestant faiths.


Yeah, I do like the distinction between "Do not murder" vs. "Do not kill." I think it makes a lot more sense.

[Cosmic Average]

Do not boil a baby goat in his mother's milk

Don't disrespect god's name

Worship no other gods because god is literally jealous. That's his name. And if you do worship anyone else, he'll mess you, your kids, your grand kids, AND your great grand kids up majorly.

Don't work on the sabbath, work only six days a week.

Eat unleavened bread for seven days a week, once a year, maybe.

Don't kill anyone.

Don't steal

Don't fantasize about your neighbor's wife.

Honor your mom and dad

[Roquefort Raider]

Oh, dear... I'm afraid I'll have to do this in French!

Tu ne tueras point
Tu ne commettras pas de faux témoignage
Tu ne convoiteras point la femme de ton voisin
Tu honoreras to père et ta mère
Tu ne fabriqueras point d'idoles et ne te prosterneras point devant elles
Tu ne voleras point
Tu garderas saint le jour du sabbat
Tu ne commettras pas l'adultère
Tu n'utiliseras pas le nom du Seigneur en vain
Tu n'auras pas d'autre Dieu que moi.

which (roughly) translates as...

You shall not kill;
You will not be a false witness;
You'll honor you father and mother;
You will not covet your neighbour's wife;
You will not make graven images to worship them;
You will not steal;
You'll keep the day of the shabbat holy;
you will not commit adultery;
You won't use the name of the Lord in vain;
You will have no other God than me.

Not sure about the order, though.

[ragnarok_2012]

Do not boil a baby goat in his mother's milk

Don't disrespect god's name

Worship no other gods because god is literally jealous. That's his name. And if you do worship anyone else, he'll mess you, your kids, your grand kids, AND your great grand kids up majorly.

Don't work on the sabbath, work only six days a week.

Eat unleavened bread for seven days a week, once a year, maybe.

Don't kill anyone.

Don't steal

Don't fantasize about your neighbor's wife.

Honor your mom and dad

I'd say you got 7.

[ragnarok_2012]

Oh, dear... I'm afraid I'll have to do this in French!

Tu ne tueras point
Tu ne commettras pas de faux témoignage
Tu ne convoiteras point la femme de ton voisin
Tu honoreras to père et ta mère
Tu ne fabriqueras point d'idoles et ne te prosterneras point devant elles
Tu ne voleras point
Tu garderas saint le jour du sabbat
Tu ne commettras pas l'adultère
Tu n'utiliseras pas le nom du Seigneur en vain
Tu n'auras pas d'autre Dieu que moi.

which (roughly) translates as...

You shall not kill;
You will not be a false witness;
You'll honor you father and mother;
You will not covet your neighbour's wife;
You will not make graven images to worship them;
You will not steal;
You'll keep the day of the shabbat holy;
you will not commit adultery;
You won't use the name of the Lord in vain;
You will have no other God than me.

Not sure about the order, though.

Raider got 10 out of 10!

I'm seeing a lot more perfect scores than I expected.

[Cosmic Average]

I'd say you got 7.

I wrote nine. Which two did I list that weren't accurate?

[Jade_GL]

This is all I can think of, and it's all out of order. But this is all I can recall at the moment. Highlight to be spoilerized.

1. I am the Lord, your God, you shall have no other gods before me.
2. Honor your mother and father.
3. Thou shalt not kill.
4. Thou shalt not steal.
5. Do not bear false witness.
6. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
7. Don't covet your neighbors stuff.
8. Honor the sabbath day and keep it holy.

[Forefinger]

Last week, on the Colbert Report, I saw a segment where Stephen Colbert interviewed a Republican Congressman named Lynn Westmoreland. Westmoreland is in favor of posting the Ten Commandments in public buildings, so Colbert asked him to name all Ten Commandments.

Westmoreland got 3.

So I've been doing a little informal survey. I've asked various people on my blog and on MSN Messenger how many they can name. Without looking them up, post all the Commandments you can name. For simplicity's sake, you don't have to quote them verbatim. Just simply and clearly state the commandment.

So far: I've asked Spike-X, Stony, Mike Smash, and Darkblade. I got 8. Spike-X got 8. Mike Smash, who is of course an atheist, got 7. Stony, in order to best Mike, managed 8. Bouncing Boy got either 7 or 8. Darkblade so far is the only one who can name all 10 from memory.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/06/15.html#a8728 Here's a link to the interview.

EDIT: Please use spoiler tags when posting the Commandments.
That guy's a dumbass. I would have responded with "That's why they should be posted!"

[ragnarok_2012]

Do not boil a baby goat in his mother's milk

Don't disrespect god's name

Worship no other gods because god is literally jealous. That's his name. And if you do worship anyone else, he'll mess you, your kids, your grand kids, AND your great grand kids up majorly.

Don't work on the sabbath, work only six days a week.

Eat unleavened bread for seven days a week, once a year, maybe.

Don't kill anyone.

Don't steal

Don't fantasize about your neighbor's wife.

Honor your mom and dad


To my knowledge, there's nothing about boiling goat's milk in the 10 Commandments.

Likewise, there's nothing about unleavened bread.

[ragnarok_2012]

This is all I can think of, and it's all out of order. But this is all I can recall at the moment. Highlight to be spoilerized.

1. I am the Lord, your God, you shall have no other gods before me.
2. Honor your mother and father.
3. Thou shalt not kill.
4. Thou shalt not steal.
5. Do not bear false witness.
6. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
7. Don't covet your neighbors stuff.
8. Honor the sabbath day and keep it holy.

Jade_GL got 8!


You left out graven images & taking the lord's name in vain.

[Cosmic Average]

To my knowledge, there's nothing about boiling goat's milk in the 10 Commandments.

Likewise, there's nothing about unleavened bread.


Sure there is.

"Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk."

Found here (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Exd/Exd034.html#26)

"The feast of unleavened bread shalt thou keep. Seven days thou shalt eat unleavened bread, as I commanded thee, in the time of the month Abib: for in the month Abib thou camest out from Egypt."

Link (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Exd/Exd034.html#18)

God gave this second set to Moses because Moses smashed the first copy.

"And the LORD said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon [these] tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou brakest."

Link. (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Exd/Exd034.html#1)

[SOGG]

Sure there is.

"Thou shalt not seethe a kid in his mother's milk."

Found here (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Exd/Exd034.html#26)

"The feast of unleavened bread shalt thou keep. Seven days thou shalt eat unleavened bread, as I commanded thee, in the time of the month Abib: for in the month Abib thou camest out from Egypt."

Link (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Exd/Exd034.html#18)

God gave this second set to Moses because Moses smashed the first copy.

"And the LORD said unto Moses, Hew thee two tables of stone like unto the first: and I will write upon [these] tables the words that were in the first tables, which thou brakest."

Link. (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Exd/Exd034.html#1)


I think this is moving into Morts' territory. There were far, far more than 10 commandments, but the 10 'common' ones don't have those two.

[Cosmic Average]

I think this is moving into Morts' territory. There were far, far more than 10 commandments, but the 10 'common' ones don't have those two.

By 'common' you mean more well known?

I mean, the bible describes them as the ten commandments.

"And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments." (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Exd/Exd034.html#28)

They're also intended as a replacement set. Shouldn't they take precedent over the earlier variation?

[ragnarok_2012]

Okay, from what I've read, there's an alternate list of 10 rules in Exodus 34 that include those two that I had thrown out.

If you want to stick to the standards of that list and that list alone, then you got 3 right. If you want to mix & match those two sets, then you got 9.

In the end, it's really up to you. You still beat the Congressman's paltry 3 commandments.


Here's the list you're citing:

1. Worship no other god than Yahweh: Make no covenant with the inhabitants of other lands to which you go, do not intermarry with them, and destroy their places of worship.
2. Do not make molten idols.
3. Observe the Feast of Unleavened Bread for seven days in the month of Abib.
4. Sacrifice firstborn male animals to Yahweh. The firstborn of a donkey may be redeemed; redeem firstborn sons.
5. Do no work or even kindle a fire on the seventh day. Anyone who does so will be put to death.
6. Observe the Feast of First Fruits and the Feast of Ingathering: All males are therefore to appear before Yahweh three times each year.
7. Do not mix sacrificial blood with leavened bread.
8. Do not let the fat of offerings remain until the morning.
9. Bring the choicest first fruits of the harvest to the Temple of Yahweh.
10. Do not cook a goat in its mother's milk.

[SOGG]

I dunno man. Goat milk is tasty!

[Night]

(Not Sure on order of some of these)
1:No God Other Than Me
2: No Idols
3: No Taking God's name in vain
4: Keep the Sabbath Holy
5: Honor Mother and Father
6: No Adultery
7: No Lieing
8: No Stealing
9: No Murder
10: Do Not Covet Nieghbor's stuff

[Night]

By 'common' you mean more well known?

I mean, the bible describes them as the ten commandments.

"And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments." (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Exd/Exd034.html#28)


Well, that Exd 34:28, go back to Exd 34:1 at the beginning of the conversation,

Yahweh said to Moses, "Chisel two stone tablets like the first: and I will write on the tablets the words that were on the first tablets, which you broke.

So God made an exact copy of the first tablets. Then God had Moses write some more things down.

If you want to check yourself on the first list Spoiler warning (http://www.blueletterbible.org/Exd/Exd020.html#1)

They're also intended as a replacement set. Shouldn't they take precedent over the earlier variation? If anything it would be an addendum set. As in Christs "For most certainly, I tell you, until heaven and earth pass away, not even one smallest letter or one tiny pen stroke shall in any way pass away from the law, until all things are accomplished. "

[Cosmic Average]

Well, that Exd 34:28, go back to Exd 34:1 at the beginning of the conversation,

Yahweh said to Moses, "Chisel two stone tablets like the first: and I will write on the tablets the words that were on the first tablets, which you broke.

Yes, and if you noticed, I quoted almost the same thing.


Then god goes on to tell Moses when and where they should meet, and under what circumstances, so that he can dictate to Moses what goes on those commandments:

"And be ready in the morning, and come up in the morning unto mount Sinai, and present thyself there to me in the top of the mount.

And no man shall come up with thee, neither let any man be seen throughout all the mount; neither let the flocks nor herds feed before that mount."

Only then, when god's not around, does Moses make the tablets, before going up to the mountain top.

"And he hewed two tables of stone like unto the first; and Moses rose up early in the morning, and went up unto mount Sinai, as the LORD had commanded him, and took in his hand the two tables of stone."

Then god dictates the list, starting off the whole worship nobody but me spiel.

"For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name [is] Jealous, [is] a jealous God:"

Exodus 34:14

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me."

Exodus 20:3

Now, why would god make a new copy on nonexistent tablets, since Moses hadn't hewed anything yet, have Moses make a new set, arrange another meeting, then start it off with a commandment that had already been written on the fresh stone tablets? Then go on about the Sabbath, which had also been covered in that second stone tablet set?

"Six days thou shalt work, but on the seventh day thou shalt rest: in earing time and in harvest thou shalt rest."

Exodus 34:21

"Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

But the seventh day [is] the sabbath of the LORD thy God: [in it] thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that [is] within thy gates:"

-Exodus 20:9-10

And they're described as the ten commandments:

"And the LORD said unto Moses, Write thou these words: for after the tenor of these words I have made a covenant with thee and with Israel.

And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the words of the covenant, the ten commandments."

Exodus 34:27-28

[Boldido]

delete duplicate post

[Boldido]

I'll take a shot too.

1. I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have any god before me.
2. Thou shalt not take the lord's name in vain.
3. Keep holy the sabbath
4. Honor thy mother and father.
5. Thou shalt not kill.
6. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
7. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
8. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house.
9. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife.

I think I missed the graven images one in their somewhere.

[Michael P]

You guys have your facts and timeline wrong.

1. God calls Moses to Sinai and tells him the Ten Commandments. (Exodus 19:20-20:16.)

2. Moses delivers the Commandments to the Israelites orally. (Exodus 20:17-20:20)

3. God calls Moses back to the Mount, and delivers unto him the Law beyond the Commandments. When He is finished, he presents Moses with two tablets containing the words of his covenant with Israel. (Exodus 20:21-31:18)

4. While Moses is on the Mount the second time, the Israelites reject God and his Commandments; Moses breaks the tablets of the covenant in anger. (Exodus 32:1-32:19)

5. Some of the Israelites repent, and Moses builds a tabernacle, in which he entreats with God on their behalf. God relents, and orders Moses to carve two new tablets. Moses does so, and ascends Sinai again. (Exodus 32:20-34:4.)

6. Over forty days and nights, God renews the covenant, reinforcing certain of the Commandments which are most important to Him. Moses descends with the tablets, on which are rewritten the covenant. (Exodus 34:5-35.)

[Cosmic Average]

We're only discussing parts five and six of your list. His assertation is that god replaced the ten commandments after Moses broke them, down laid down even more rules on the mountain top.

[ragnarok_2012]

Night got 10 out of 10!

I'll take a shot too.

1. I am the Lord thy God, thou shalt not have any god before me.
2. Thou shalt not take the lord's name in vain.
3. Keep holy the sabbath
4. Honor thy mother and father.
5. Thou shalt not kill.
6. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
7. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
8. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's house.
9. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife.

I think I missed the graven images one in their somewhere.

Boldido got 9.


You left out "Thou Shalt Not Steal." Usually, when you divide coveting into two distinct commandments (neighbor's property as one & neighbor's wife as another) you combine "no graven images" & "Thou Shalt Have No Other God Before Me" as one commandment.

[Night]

Yes, and if you noticed, I quoted almost the same thing. Sorry I didn't see it in the spoiler."And he hewed two tables of stone like unto the first; and Moses rose up early in the morning, and went up unto mount Sinai, as the LORD had commanded him, and took in his hand the two tables of stone."

Then god dictates the list, starting off the whole worship nobody but me spiel.
"For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name [is] Jealous, [is] a jealous God:"

Exodus 34:14

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me."

Exodus 20:3 But in a whole new way, this one emphasizes how other cultures can seduce you away from said commandment. The language there is more of a warning tens than in Exd 20. Lots of “take head”’s and less “thou shalts”

Now, why would god make a new copy on nonexistent tablets, since Moses hadn't hewed anything yet, have Moses make a new set, arrange another meeting, then start it off with a commandment that had already been written on the fresh stone tablets? Then go on about the Sabbath, which had also been covered in that second stone tablet set?

"Six days thou shalt work, but on the seventh day thou shalt rest: in earing time and in harvest thou shalt rest."

Exodus 34:21

"Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

But the seventh day [is] the sabbath of the LORD thy God: [in it] thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that [is] within thy gates:"

-Exodus 20:9-10 And why would you repeat yourself and elaborate on things you already said…. Because I didn’t read it good enough the first time. :D And commandments are repeated thoughout the bible, because people didn't listen. They don't listen today. That's why Mr Congressman could quote only 3.
And they're described as the ten commandments: But there’s not 10 of them there…. From the list ragnarok_2012 gave in post #39… 3 &6 are in the same verse (ok in the same area, not separated) the “Feast of Unleavened Bread” of 3 is one of the three events mentioned in 6. That’s a hard one gone; down to nine of them. If you look carefully 7,8,9 Somewhat pertain to the things happening in 6. 10 is in the same verse as 9 and may or may not pertain to 6…. And if you go further on how these things were brought out 4 somewhat pertains to the things happening in 6 as well. 1, 2, and 5 are further explanations of commandments of the first set. So we’re down to 3 repeats, and 7 things that somewhat link to each other. This is different from 10 distinct commandments.

[Citizen V]

"Those who refuse to obey the rights of the Lord are doomed to spend all eternity in flaming purgatory."

[Stony]

So far: I've asked Spike-X, Stony, Mike Smash, and Darkblade. I got 8. Spike-X got 8. Mike Smash, who is of course an atheist, got 7. Stony, in order to best Mike, managed 8. [/b]
Well I wasn't going to let some mangy guilt-free heathen beat me at my own Commandments! Nossir

[ragnarok_2012]

Well I wasn't going to let some mangy guilt-free heathen beat me at my own Commandments! Nossir

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v374/Ragnarok_2012/GreenPartybadass1a_closeup.jpg
Who's scruffy looking? :D

[Mike Smash!]

Man, I look horrible in black and white.

[Jeff Brady]

Okay, here's the only two I know by heart:

1)Thou shalt always be honest and faithful, particularly to the provider of thy nookie;

2) Thou shalt try real hard not to kill anyone, unless they pray to a different invisible man that lives in the clouds than thou.

[ragnarok_2012]

Okay, here's the only two I know by heart:

1)Thou shalt always be honest and faithful, particularly to the provider of thy nookie;

2) Thou shalt try real hard not to kill anyone, unless they pray to a different invisible man that lives in the clouds than thou.

I'll give you two :)

[Jeff Brady]

I'll give you two :)

Works for me!

*knows Pullmann will get it*

[Nikita]

Do unto others, as you would have others do unto you. That's more important to me these days...

[leigh_ann1982]

Cripes ... I used to fantasize about sex during catechism to stay awake; I probably broke one right there. I'm not sure if these are right:

1. Thou shalt have no other gods but me.
2. Honor thy father and mother.
3. Thou shalt not kill.
4. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife.
5. Keep holy the sabbath.
6. Thou shalt not steal.
7. Thou shalt not lie.
8. Thou shalt not worship any false idols.

I could only think of 8.

[Pól Rua]

I'll give it a burl:

1. Don't wizz on the electric fence,
2. Don't take any wooden nickels,
3. Whatever knows fear burns at the touch of the man-thing,
4. Don't call me late for dinner,
5. Don't touch that, you don't know where it's been,
6. Look out below,
7. Beware the jabberwock, my son,
8. Don't rollerskate in a buffalo herd,
9. Watch out where the huskies go, and
10. Don't eat the yellow snow.

[ragnarok_2012]

I'll give it a burl:

1. Don't wizz on the electric fence,
2. Don't take any wooden nickels,
3. Whatever knows fear burns at the touch of the man-thing,
4. Don't call me late for dinner,
5. Don't touch that, you don't know where it's been,
6. Look out below,
7. Beware the jabberwock, my son,
8. Don't rollerskate in a buffalo herd,
9. Watch out where the huskies go, and
10. Don't eat the yellow snow.

lmao.

Best. Commandments. Ever.

[ragnarok_2012]

Cripes ... I used to fantasize about sex during catechism to stay awake; I probably broke one right there. I'm not sure if these are right:

1. Thou shalt have no other gods but me.
2. Honor thy father and mother.
3. Thou shalt not kill.
4. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's wife.
5. Keep holy the sabbath.
6. Thou shalt not steal.
7. Thou shalt not lie.
8. Thou shalt not worship any false idols.

I could only think of 8.

You got 8!


"Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery" is a distinct commandment from "Thou Shalt Not Covet." The other one was "Thou Shalt Not Take the Lord's Name in Vain."

[Sanagi]

Thou Shalt Not:
Worship other gods
Kill
Covet thy neighbor's wife
Steal
Commit Adultery
Bear false witness
Open soda cans with your teeth

[leigh_ann1982]

Man, I look horrible in black and white.

I think you're man pretty. *hugs*

[Spike-X]

Let's just whittle it down to one - "Don't be an asshole."

[StoneGold]

You're all short 5.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a59/stonegold/15_commandments.jpg

[ragnarok_2012]

Thou Shalt Not:
Worship other gods
Kill
Covet thy neighbor's wife
Steal
Commit Adultery
Bear false witness
Open soda cans with your teeth

You got six!

Not opening soda cans with your teeth is just good sense!
You left out "graven images", keeping the sabbath holy, honoring your parents & "Do not take the Lord's Name in Vain."

Every time I say that last one, I have the urge to shout "Dammit!"

[FunkyGreenJerusalem]

1. Honor Thy Father.

2. Do not worship false idols.

3. Do not commit murder.

4. Do not commit adultery.

5. Do not covet thy neighbours wife.

6. Remember the Sabbath, and keep it holy.

7. Do not blaspheme.

8. Do not put anything before god.

9. Do unto others as thou would do unto one self (or was that a Jesus thing?).

[Night]

FunkyGreenJerusalem was close he got 8. You missed the lieing and murdering. Your 9 was Jesus... which reminds me... If you want the "Jesus Notes" version: "(J1) Love God with everything you got (J2) Love your neighbor as yourself" Matt 37-39 (paraphased) If you truly understand these two, you got all 10 as well as all the other things mentioned. (J1) covers 1-4, (J2) covers 5-10. (also why I don't like the "second list" as the 10: it goes nowhere into (J2). and yes I do see where the second list could be used sorry for going on and on about it:) )

[FunkyGreenJerusalem]

FunkyGreenJerusalem was close he got 8. You missed the lieing and murdering. Your 9 was Jesus... which reminds me... If you want the "Jesus Notes" version: "(J1) Love God with everything you got (J2) Love your neighbor as yourself" Matt 37-39 (paraphased) If you truly understand these two, you got all 10 as well as all the other things mentioned. (J1) covers 1-4, (J2) covers 5-10. (also why I don't like the "second list" as the 10: it goes nowhere into (J2). and yes I do see where the second list could be used sorry for going on and on about it:) )
I got murdering. it's number two. it's one of the three that I've actually kept in life

[SOGG]

Let's just whittle it down to one - "Don't be an asshole."

I dunno man, Pol's commandments are pretty boss.

[Pinball]

I'm going by the movie here; i'm surprised no one else has
I am the Lord your God; thou shalt have no other gods before me
Thou shalt not create any graven images
Thou shalt remember the Sabbath and keep it holy
Thou shalt honor thy father and mother
Thou shalt not kill
Thou shalt not commit adultury
Thou shalt not steal
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor
Thou shalt not covet anything of thy neighbor's

I considered splitting the last one in two like some versions do...but nah.

[Shades0077]

1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

2. Don't worship false idols.

3. Don't lie.

4. Don't murder.

5. Don'y kill.

6. Don't covet thy neighbor's wife.

7. Honor thy father and mother.

8. Don't covet thy neighbor's possessions. (or is that the same as don't steal?)

9. Remember the sabbath?

That's all I've got.

[ragnarok_2012]

1. Honor Thy Father.

2. Do not worship false idols.

3. Do not commit murder.

4. Do not commit adultery.

5. Do not covet thy neighbours wife.

6. Remember the Sabbath, and keep it holy.

7. Do not blaspheme.

8. Do not put anything before god.

9. Do unto others as thou would do unto one self (or was that a Jesus thing?).

FGJ got 8!


Do unto others isn't a commandment, but it's a damn fine moral principle. Solaris also thought it was a commandment.

The other common non-commandment I've seen is "Love Thy Neighbor As Thyself"-which is, I believe, from Leviticus & mentioned by Jesus as the most important thing.

You left out "Thou Shalt Not Steal" & "Thou Shalt Not Bear False Witness"

[ragnarok_2012]

I'm going by the movie here; i'm surprised no one else has

I am the Lord your God; thou shalt have no other gods before me
Thou shalt not create any graven images
Thou shalt remember the Sabbath and keep it holy
Thou shalt honor thy father and mother
Thou shalt not kill
Thou shalt not commit adultury
Thou shalt not steal
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor
Thou shalt not covet anything of thy neighbor's

I considered splitting the last one in two like some versions do...but nah.

You got 9!

You left out blaspheming/taking the Lord's name in vain.

[ragnarok_2012]

1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

2. Don't worship false idols.

3. Don't lie.

4. Don't murder.

5. Don'y kill.

6. Don't covet thy neighbor's wife.

7. Honor thy father and mother.

8. Don't covet thy neighbor's possessions. (or is that the same as don't steal?)

9. Remember the sabbath?

That's all I've got.

Shades got 8!


You left out the commandment against adultery & the one against blaspheming.

Some versions lump "Don't covet somebody else's property" into one commandment, and some divide it into "Don't covet the wife of another" and "Don't covet the property of another." At any rate, coveting is distinct from "Don't steal" and "Don't commit adultery."

When you lump coveting into one commandment, you divide up "No God Above me" & "No graven images" as two separate commandments.

I hope that wasn't an overly complicated explanation :D



The vast majority of posters on this thread seem to be overqualified for a Congressional Run. :D

[Michael P]

Some versions lump "Don't covet somebody else's property" into one commandment, and some divide it into "Don't covet the wife of another" and "Don't covet the property of another."
I'd just like to point out that the Lutherans are the only Protestant denomination who don't lump women in with personal property in the commandments.

Also, "Lutherans do it 99 times on the church door."

[Sir Tim Drake]

I'm not sure of the exact order, but:


1. I am the Lord your God
2. Thou shalt have no other gods before me
3. Thou shalt make no graven images
4. Honor thy father and thy mother
5. Remember the Sabbath day
6. Thou shalt not commit adultery
7. Thou shalt not murder
8. Thou shalt not steal
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness
10. Thou shalt not covet

[SOGG]

I'd just like to point out that the Lutherans are the only Protestant denomination who don't lump women in with personal property in the commandments.

Also, "Lutherans do it 99 times on the church door."

That's really cool. Step in the right direction, that is.

[ragnarok_2012]

All in all, from this thread, my blog and MSN Messenger I've had 26 people participate.

The average score is 8.19.

Republican Congressman Lynn Westmoreland's score was 3.

I've had a lot of fun with the thread. Thanks guys!

[ragnarok_2012]

I'm not sure of the exact order, but:


1. I am the Lord your God
2. Thou shalt have no other gods before me
3. Thou shalt make no graven images
4. Honor thy father and thy mother
5. Remember the Sabbath day
6. Thou shalt not commit adultery
7. Thou shalt not murder
8. Thou shalt not steal
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness
10. Thou shalt not covet

You got 9!


"I am the Lord your God. Thou shalt have no other gods before me" is one commandment.

You left out "Do not blaspheme/take the Lord's Name in vain."


Sir Tim has raised the average to 8.22!

[Rallura]

Thou shalt have no other gods before me
Thou shalt not murder
Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain
Honor thy mother and father
Thou shalt not bear false witness
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife or his ass his ox his nintendo, etc...
Thou shalt not steal
Thou shalt not raise false idols
Thou shalt not commit adultry

and, I am blanking...
How about: Thou shalt take thy complaints about the King James Bible elsewhere cause I don't want to hear it...

[ragnarok_2012]

Thou shalt have no other gods before me
Thou shalt not murder
Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain
Honor thy mother and father
Thou shalt not bear false witness
Thou shalt not covet thy neighbors wife or his ass his ox his nintendo, etc...
Thou shalt not steal
Thou shalt not raise false idols
Thou shalt not commit adultry

and, I am blanking...
How about: Thou shalt take thy complaints about the King James Bible elsewhere cause I don't want to hear it...


Rallura got 9! Perhaps not surprisingly, she beat her husband Bouncing Boy :D


You left out one. I forget the exact wording. Something about keeping Black Sabbath in holding.


Rallura has raised the average to 8.25!

[Rallura]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

I am so dumb. Sheesh.

[ragnarok_2012]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGHGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

I am so dumb. Sheesh.

Hardly

One trick that might help.

There are three commandments saying "do this."

There are seven commandments saying "don't do this."

Do:
Honor God Above All Others
Keep the Sabbath Holy
Honor your parents

Don't:
Murder
Steal
Bear false witness
Commit adultery
Covet
Worship graven idols
Blaspheme

More or less. Some groups divide "don't covet" into two commandments and lump graven idols in with "honor god above all others"