View Full Version : Should Samuel L. Jackson worry about his career?
blackdragon6
06-17-2006, 04:54 PM
as much as we all are waiting for snakes on a plane i started thinking about something.i started to realize why we are looking forward to this fim.its actually for all the wrong reasons.basically we wan't to see sam act like a characture of himself like the the character "Gin Rummy" from the boondocks.i mean lets face it thats whats driving the buzz about this movie.should he be worried about this?
Super Sonic
06-17-2006, 05:01 PM
as much as we all are waiting for snakes on a plane i started thinking about something.i started to realize why we are looking forward to this fim.its actually for all the wrong reasons.basically we wan't to see sam act like a characture of himself like the the character "Gin Rummy" from the boondocks.i mean lets face it thats whats driving the buzz about this movie.should he be worried about this?
I've never read or seen the Boondocks, and I can't wait for this movie, because it's such a surreal concept and could be brilliant, plus the promos remind me of his character in Pulp Fiction more than anything else.
as much as we all are waiting for snakes on a plane i started thinking about something.i started to realize why we are looking forward to this fim.its actually for all the wrong reasons.basically we wan't to see sam act like a characture of himself like the the character "Gin Rummy" from the boondocks.i mean lets face it thats whats driving the buzz about this movie.should he be worried about this?
Jackson's the most profitable actor in the world. I think one of the refreshing things about the movie is that Jackson is outright stating from the getgo that he's doing the film strictly for the fun of it due to the premise.
As opposed to actors starring in sequels and mindless films, claiming the movie is the best thing since Citizen Kane, only to confess a few months later that they did it only for the cash.
people want to see this film, because the title is so damn stupid.
that's really what got the buzz going. . .
the fact Jackson is in the film is a bonus.
Ontir
06-17-2006, 05:20 PM
When Sherry Lansing ran Paramount, every script that got to her desk, got to Jackson, according to an acquaintance who works there. I'm told that if Lansing could've found a way to put him in every movie Paramount made, she'd have done it, and there certainly seems to be enough product to give the claim veractiy. He' a bit too ubiquitous for me at the moment, but he's damn good, and highly successful. I'm not going to pay to see Snakes on a Plain, but I imagine a screening will come up sooner or later.
I think the appeal, even to Jackson, is that it draws a visceral, animal response to a pure primal fear.
SUPERECWFAN1
06-17-2006, 05:24 PM
I think at some point he has to say " No " to scripts. I mean for gods sake " The Man " ? He's a great actor but he's someone who won't turn something down and he's hurt his career that way.
I think at some point he has to say " No " to scripts. I mean for gods sake " The Man " ? He's a great actor but he's someone who won't turn something down and he's hurt his career that way.
I think it's the William H. Macy Method. For every three 'Fargoes,' you get your choice of 'Mystery Men' or 'Jurassic Park III.'
Ontir
06-17-2006, 05:37 PM
A Jurassic Park III (which I think is the best of the three, BTW) provides the paycheck that allows an actor to do films like Fargo or Wool Cap, or Panic. He's also playing the President of the United States in House of Re-Animator. :D
Huzzah!
06-17-2006, 05:38 PM
Sam Jackson is to badass what Chris Walken is to Crazy. Nothing wrong with character actors
SUPERECWFAN1
06-17-2006, 05:52 PM
Lets count how many movies Jackson has made....
From what I've counted he's been in 67 movies and has 5 in various stages of filming and post production. He appeared in 41 movies in the 1990's.
Can anyone stop Samuel L Jackson ? :eek:
Tish-the-Scorpion
06-17-2006, 06:17 PM
i remember him criticising rappers for pretty much doing what he's doing.the irony of it all.he dug the hole so let him dig himself out.
Ontir
06-17-2006, 06:21 PM
THAT'S IT!
Tarantino has to do a film where Jackson and Walken duke it out! :evilsmile
DWEarhart
06-17-2006, 06:29 PM
THAT'S IT!
Tarantino has to do a film where Jackson and Walken duke it out! :evilsmile
He could have used Walken and Jackson's characters from True Romance. It'd have to be in the past, seeing as how Jackson was killed in that flick after only five minutes of screen time.
i remember him criticising rappers for pretty much doing what he's doing.the irony of it all.he dug the hole so let him dig himself out.
What's he guilty of?
He criticized rappers who had zero acting experience yet were getting top billing in major studio films. Rappers like Ice Cube and LL Cool J he had no problems with since they were in TV and movies before they co-starred in a film with Jackson.
Jared
06-17-2006, 07:14 PM
He's unquestionably one of ten most popular actors working today, and is one of the few black actors who can garner multi-million dollar paydays if he chooses.
I'd say he's doing pretty well for himself. I really don't think Snakes on a Plane would have anywhere near the hype it does if it starred someone other than him. It's not just that the premise is having snakes on a plane, it's having snakes on a plane...with Sam Jackson!
And he does still do solid acting roles. Whereas with Christopher Walken, I can't remember the last time I saw him in something other than a supporting role or cameo where he'd clearly been cast just for that crazy Walken Factor he brings to the screen.
Is Jackson actually trying to get the record for most film credits? Who has that now, Christopher Lee?
Donald Stone
06-17-2006, 07:32 PM
Is Jackson actually trying to get the record for most film credits? Who has that now, Christopher Lee?I think so.
Currently Sir Christopher Lee has over 200 films to his credit.
As for Sam, the guy likes making movies, and is more than willing to make a movie if he thinks its cool, screw the Oscars and all that junk. This is the guy who called George Lucas and said he play Luke's slave, he just wanted any part in a Star Wars movie. This is the guy who agreed to be in Deep Blue Sea because he though him getting eaten by a shark half way through would be funny.
Athena Bast
06-17-2006, 07:46 PM
He's a working actor.
I can bet if the internet was as prominant now as say when Michael Caine did Jaws 4 we'd have the same opinions of him too.
Gene Hackman is another actor who likes to work.
I dunno. The more they work for me the more they are an actor and not just wanting to be famous.
Jared
06-17-2006, 08:11 PM
I thought Michael Caine has disavowed alot of the older stuff he did like Jaws 4, which were just for paychecks. At least, I seem to remember him joking about it a few times.
rondre sleazde
06-17-2006, 08:28 PM
I like jackson. He does great movies and anything he is in is gold.
Huzzah!
06-17-2006, 08:46 PM
Well Sam Jackson is also hyping the snakes
they tried to change the title he was all like, hells nah
Its motherF&$*ing snakes on a plane. We are totally changing that back. Its like he saved the movie 2wice already by being in it and saving the name
Popgun
06-17-2006, 08:57 PM
Currently Sir Christopher Lee has over 200 films to his credit.
But no knighthood.
SAMAS
06-17-2006, 09:02 PM
I think so.
Currently Sir Christopher Lee has over 200 films to his credit.
As for Sam, the guy likes making movies, and is more than willing to make a movie if he thinks its cool, screw the Oscars and all that junk. This is the guy who called George Lucas and said he play Luke's slave, he just wanted any part in a Star Wars movie. This is the guy who agreed to be in Deep Blue Sea because he though him getting eaten by a shark half way through would be funny.
You know what one movie made Samuel L. Jackson one of my favorite actors?
Formula 51. a.k.a.: The 51st State.
As a movie in and of itself, it's alright. But I love it for two things.
When It first came out, I read a review of it. The review said that, while the movie itself was really nothing special, Jackson looked like he was having the time of his life making it.
So one day, it came up on cable, and I got a chance to look at it. And dammit, the reviewer was right. Sam looked like he was having fun in his role the whole time.
Plus, it had Jackson in cornrows and a kilt.
davids
06-17-2006, 09:28 PM
I believe a john Goodman Sketch!
Huzzah!
06-17-2006, 09:39 PM
Indeed it was an snl bit.
Buzz Dixon
06-17-2006, 09:47 PM
I think so.
Currently Sir Christopher Lee has over 200 films to his credit.
If we're just talking about living actors, yeah, Chris Lee is the current champ. Among those living and dead, however, you gotta rank John Carradine, John Vernon, and John Wayne, all of whom had over 200 films to their credit. (What is it with "John" and mega movie roles...?) Carradine is probably the champ with 400+ feature films to his credit -- some of them actually good!
StoneGold
06-18-2006, 12:39 AM
I'm so worried for Sam.
http://static.flickr.com/52/169399948_9518796a69.jpg
GRANT!
06-18-2006, 03:09 AM
If we're just talking about living actors, yeah, Chris Lee is the current champ. Among those living and dead, however, you gotta rank John Carradine, John Vernon, and John Wayne, all of whom had over 200 films to their credit. (What is it with "John" and mega movie roles...?) Carradine is probably the champ with 400+ feature films to his credit -- some of them actually good!
I'm sure there is some guy in Bollywood who has that beat.
Aggie
06-18-2006, 12:13 PM
Sam Jackson is to badass what Chris Walken is to Crazy. Nothing wrong with character actors
i wish that had this analogy on the SAT....:D
sam jackson, bless his heart, is the hardest working man in hollywood and will probably be that way until he gets tired of the grind...barring any real calamity such as a physical injury or getting caught w/ midget male hookers, his career is more than fine...so, snakes on a plane huh??...looked way better than ghost rider that's for sure...hey you think nic cage should start worrying about his career??...:evilsmile
Michael P
06-18-2006, 12:22 PM
No, Nic Cage should have started worrying about his career when he signed the contract for "National Treasure 2."
DubipR
06-18-2006, 01:23 PM
Let's see:
The Man
Star Wars, Eps 1,2,3
XXX- both crap films
SWAT
Basic
Coach Carter
Changing Lanes
Formula 51
Freedomland
Yeah, Jackson needs to worry about his career. Pick better films instead of shit
rondre sleazde
06-18-2006, 01:51 PM
Star wars no problem
Basic was good
Formula 51 was ok.
Can you name any other black actors besides Denzel washington, Will Smith, Halle Berry, Jamie Foxx, Ving Rhames or Don Cheadle who can draw movies like him.
Huzzah!
06-18-2006, 02:13 PM
Changing lanes was pretty good
And there are "good" Sammy Jackson movies out there. See things like the Red Violin
But honestly i like the whole big explosions action stuff Sam does. Its fun. Fun movies are in many ways superior to good ones
Grazzt
06-18-2006, 04:43 PM
Fun movies are in many ways superior to good ones
I wouldn't say that, simply because it implies a good movie can't also be fun.
Sanagi
06-18-2006, 05:39 PM
I wonder what the sequel will be called. My suggestion is "Wombats on a Dirigible."
Aggie
06-18-2006, 08:53 PM
Star wars no problem
Basic was good
Formula 51 was ok.
Can you name any other black actors besides Denzel washington, Will Smith, Halle Berry, Jamie Foxx, Ving Rhames or Don Cheadle who can draw movies like him.
ving rhames draws movies??...;)
let's be honest here...sam isn't exactly laurence olivier...i think he's a descent actor...but he's more of the cool, bad ass guy in all the movies he's in...most of the films he was in weren't exactly ibsen plays..there were a few really good ones here and there, but i think sam knows what works for him and doesn't really try to change that...unlike other actors who shall remain namelss but should really stop jumping up and down on couches...my point is...so what if does movies like the man or XXX...he's still sam m***af***kin' jackson...:D
Huzzah!
06-18-2006, 09:01 PM
I wonder what the sequel will be called. My suggestion is "Wombats on a Dirigible."
I think the only way you can take this is to up the ante
Werewolves on a spaceship
Black Atom
06-18-2006, 09:20 PM
I don't think Sam has to be worried. As others have mentioned, he's got enough credibility in the movie biz that he can turn out a stinker once in a while and people will still respect him as an actor. Bruce Willis does the same thing. He was the voice of the dog in the !@#$in Rugrats movie.
OTOH, I saw Minhunters the other day. Everyone in that film should be worried about their careers. Boy what a shitter. And LL Cool J got top billing in a cast with Val Kilmer and Christian Slater (star of direct-to-video Hollow Man to and the first to die in this flick. Ouch
Huzzah!
06-18-2006, 09:48 PM
Werewolves on a SpaceShip
Starring Sam Jackon, bruce campbell, jackie chan and various big breasted women folk
Plotline
Its the year 2013 and mankind has conquered space. But this has unstablized the world economy and gold is now being used for fuel, for the space wormhole drives. There is now a platinum standard
So, check it out. A secret conglomerate of gold millionares devise a plan to regain prominence. Knowing they could never top Platinuim, they have their sights set on the second best, silver. And what better villain of silver is there, than werewolves? Knowing mankind would use all its silver to fight the beast, gold would become the second precious metal.
On a routine space cruise Sam Jackson and his partner Jackie Chan finds himself in charge of protecting the presidents smoking hot daughters. Knowing the public interest in this voyage the evil gold companies realize that to make people fear the werewolves they must attack here.
Other than the president''s daughters the rest of the passengers are simply everyday folks, one such couple is Bruce Campbell and is wife. This sets up a hilarious sidestory with Campbell arguing with his wife over wether the necklace he got his wife was platinuum or silver. And in one climatic battle, sam looking for silver after having already used the silver underwear of the hot female daughters takes the necklace and uses it, but alas it is platinuum
The wife is pissed.
The villain would be Jeremy Piven naturally
500 million dollar opening weekend
I don't think Sam has to be worried. As others have mentioned, he's got enough credibility in the movie biz that he can turn out a stinker once in a while and people will still respect him as an actor. Bruce Willis does the same thing. He was the voice of the dog in the !@#$in Rugrats movie.
That's right! And if Hostage and 16 Blocks have taught us(or more appropriately, reminded us) anything, it's that nobody plays "burnt-out cop" better than Bruce Willis!!
OTOH, I saw Minhunters the other day. Everyone in that film should be worried about their careers. Boy what a shitter. And LL Cool J got top billing in a cast with Val Kilmer and Christian Slater (star of direct-to-video Hollow Man to and the first to die in this flick. Ouch
I can't believe Christian Slater's career has taken such a dive. I think another movie with Wynona Ryder might kickstart both their careers!
Let's see:
The Man
Star Wars, Eps 1,2,3
XXX- both crap films
SWAT
Basic
Coach Carter
Changing Lanes
Formula 51
Freedomland
Yeah, Jackson needs to worry about his career. Pick better films instead of shit
IIRC, all three Star Wars flicks and the first XXX made record-breaking returns. That's a go.
Changing Lanes got Jackson two nominations for acting. Not a bad show.
SWAT was your basic Hollywood fare but it grossed over $100 mil. It stays.
Coach Carter got Jackson another acting trophy.
That just leaves XXX 2, Formula 51, and Basic (which bored the hell out of me), and the pattern is still maintained: for every two or three profitable or good movies he makes, he makes a dud. And, as others have pointed out, Formula 51 sucked pretty bad but Jackson looked like he was having a blast on the set nonetheless.
I can't believe Christian Slater's career has taken such a dive. I think another movie with Wynona Ryder might kickstart both their careers!
I think the only work Christian Slater has to put food on the table these days are his voiceovers for Panasonic commercials.
As for Wynona Ryder, I'd love to see Slater as a cop trying to bust the mysterious, zombie-like serial-shoplifter. :)
Dennis K
06-19-2006, 10:22 AM
Should Jackson worry about his career? If we're looking at his bank account only, my answer would be no because he's getting paid for all these films he's doing. If we're looking at credibility then yeah, I would have to say that there was some reason for concern. His choice of roles and his performances in said roles has him becoming dangerously close to a parody of what he once was.
Jared
06-19-2006, 02:05 PM
Christian Slater is still holding out hope that somebody will make The Jack Nickolson Story.
blackdragon6
06-19-2006, 05:25 PM
His choice of roles and his performances in said roles has him becoming dangerously close to a parody of what he once was.exactly my point...
The Punished
06-19-2006, 09:33 PM
One word
MotherFu*&)#%SnakesonthePlane!
Buzz Dixon
06-21-2006, 11:17 PM
Every actor's career goes through five stages:
1: "Who's Samuel L. Jackson?"
2: "Get me Samuel L. Jackson."
3: "Get me a Samuel L. Jackson type."
4: "Get me a young Samuel L. Jackson."
5: "Who's Samuel L. Jackson?"
blackdragon6
08-21-2006, 08:04 PM
Every actor's career goes through five stages:
1: "Who's Samuel L. Jackson?"
2: "Get me Samuel L. Jackson."
3: "Get me a Samuel L. Jackson type."
4: "Get me a young Samuel L. Jackson."
5: "Who's Samuel L. Jackson?"well i wish him the best
shades of eternity
08-21-2006, 08:44 PM
Werewolves on a SpaceShip
Starring Sam Jackon, bruce campbell, jackie chan and various big breasted women folk
Plotline
Its the year 2013 and mankind has conquered space. But this has unstablized the world economy and gold is now being used for fuel, for the space wormhole drives. There is now a platinum standard
So, check it out. A secret conglomerate of gold millionares devise a plan to regain prominence. Knowing they could never top Platinuim, they have their sights set on the second best, silver. And what better villain of silver is there, than werewolves? Knowing mankind would use all its silver to fight the beast, gold would become the second precious metal.
On a routine space cruise Sam Jackson and his partner Jackie Chan finds himself in charge of protecting the presidents smoking hot daughters. Knowing the public interest in this voyage the evil gold companies realize that to make people fear the werewolves they must attack here.
Other than the president''s daughters the rest of the passengers are simply everyday folks, one such couple is Bruce Campbell and is wife. This sets up a hilarious sidestory with Campbell arguing with his wife over wether the necklace he got his wife was platinuum or silver. And in one climatic battle, sam looking for silver after having already used the silver underwear of the hot female daughters takes the necklace and uses it, but alas it is platinuum
The wife is pissed.
The villain would be Jeremy Piven naturally
500 million dollar opening weekend
make it happen :)
Taltos
08-21-2006, 10:55 PM
I've never read or seen the Boondocks, and I can't wait for this movie, because it's such a surreal concept and could be brilliant, plus the promos remind me of his character in Pulp Fiction more than anything else.
the appeal of Gin Rummy is pretty much the same as his character in pulp fiction, just in a different situation.
Jackson's the most profitable actor in the world.
Im pretty sure thats jackie chan.
Ontir
08-22-2006, 12:30 AM
I think it IS Samuel L Jackson. His movies have made a ton of money world-wide and I recall hearing that statement a year or two ago.
Jackson is still a well-respected, and highly regarded actor. He can be depended upon, and he likes to work. That continues to make him a favourite within the industry, and even though she doesn't run Paramount anymore, He's always got Sherry Lansing on his side!
(A)//(E)
08-22-2006, 12:44 AM
I think the only way you can take this is to up the ante
Werewolves on a spaceship
Sharks on a Tractor
Pól Rua
08-22-2006, 12:47 AM
I think it's the William H. Macy Method. For every three 'Fargoes,' you get your choice of 'Mystery Men' or 'Jurassic Park III.'
'Mystery Men' was awesome.
(A)//(E)
08-22-2006, 01:37 AM
Sharks on a Tractor
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/Tridge/SHARTRACTOR.jpg
kalorama
08-22-2006, 09:03 AM
His choice of roles and his performances in said roles has him becoming dangerously close to a parody of what he once was.
That's not an opinion Jackson himself shares. He's addressed this topic many times in interviews and has always been very upfront that his primary goals in taking a role (aside from getting paid) are to have fun and entertain an audience. In a recent interview (I think it was Entertainment Weekly) he said he often rubs his agents the wrong way by vetoing the Oscar-bait movies they try to steer him towards in favor of populist fare that people will actually want to pay money to see and enjoy. He knows exactly what he's doing with his career.
kalorama
08-22-2006, 09:32 AM
Whereas with Christopher Walken, I can't remember the last time I saw him in something other than a supporting role or cameo where he'd clearly been cast just for that crazy Walken Factor he brings to the screen.
Yeah, but that Walken Factor never fails to spice up even the lamest movie.
so, snakes on a plane huh??...looked way better than ghost rider that's for sure...hey you think nic cage should start worrying about his career??
Yep.
Donald Stone
08-22-2006, 02:24 PM
And it appears the Sam's next flick is titled Afro Samurai.
3 guesses what it's about? :)
Im pretty sure thats jackie chan.
About 2-5 years ago, that would be true. However, Jackson's been consistently making films that pull in a variety of grosses (either bombs or megahits), while Chan's recent movies have drawn in either mediocre profits (America) or as cameos in which he's not credited for their success (Asia).
However, though, it was only *this* year in which Jackson gained the title of most profitable actor in cinematic history. It was fairly big news that he beat out Harrison Ford and Chan himself in that category.
'Mystery Men' was awesome.
It was still a popcorn flick, though. I'm not saying that popcorn flicks are bad, but my point was that guys like William H. Macy can do like two or three really indepth, high-profile flicks, then move into a popcorn flick either for sheer fun, money, or both.
Silliw 2
08-22-2006, 03:18 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/Tridge/SHARTRACTOR.jpg
You bastard, I laughed so hard I damn near choked on a sunflower seed!
the film freak
08-22-2006, 06:26 PM
And it appears the Sam's next flick is titled Afro Samurai.
3 guesses what it's about? :)
I thought it was a cartoon show.
Murrocko
08-22-2006, 07:46 PM
Yeah it is. Close to an anime I believe.
Sam Jackson can make films as different as Snake On A Plane to The Cavemans Valentine.
He is brilliant, talented and charismatic.
I don't think that he is sweating the career too much.
Valmore
08-22-2006, 08:28 PM
Yes, but really, the man should have more taste than to do stupid flicks like Snakes on a Plane.
the film freak
08-22-2006, 08:42 PM
Yes, but really, the man should have more taste than to do stupid flicks like Snakes on a Plane.
Why? Plenty of actors do stupid flicks. Not everyone can be Russel Crowe and just wait for some project to come along. At least Jackson picks stupid projects that he finds entertaining.
Yeah, I appreciate actors willing to work in any genre, rather than limit themselves for the purposes of fishing for awards (Sean Penn and Leoardo "I only work with Martin Scorcese, now" DiCaprio, in particular).
Yes, but really, the man should have more taste than to do stupid flicks like Snakes on a Plane.
Jackson said in an interview that he remembers watching films when he was a kid, and then would later pretend that he was the hero of the film every saturday afternoon. His basic motivation is to recreate that feeling for others, the same kind of entertainment and escapism that he used to feel when he himself was a kid.
I'm not sure of the sincerity of the answer, but it's such a well-thought answer that I'd have to respect it.
The Foreigner
08-23-2006, 12:05 AM
Yes, but really, the man should have more taste than to do stupid flicks like Snakes on a Plane.
Why? He probably got paid a lot, and had an absolute blast making it.
"Taste" is subjective.
Valmore
08-23-2006, 05:19 AM
Why? Plenty of actors do stupid flicks. Not everyone can be Russel Crowe and just wait for some project to come along. At least Jackson picks stupid projects that he finds entertaining.
Why? Because stupid films like Snakes on a Plane should be left to actors I don't want to watch, so I'm not accidentally enticed to go see a stupid movie. With great acting comes great responsibility.
Clearly Ben Affleck should have been in Snakes on a Plane.
kalorama
08-23-2006, 09:14 AM
Why? Plenty of actors do stupid flicks. Not everyone can be Russel Crowe and just wait for some project to come along.
But that's just it. Jackson can afford to pick and choose his projects. He makes the movies he wants to make.
I'm not sure of the sincerity of the answer, but it's such a well-thought answer that I'd have to respect it.
I don't doubt the sincerity at all. Jackson doesn't come across as a guy who puts a lot of effort into telling people what he thinks they want to hear.
Silliw 2
08-23-2006, 10:02 AM
Caveman's Valentine may be my favorite Sam Jackson movie right after Pulp Fiction. Great flick.
-edit- I'd better add something useful to this post-
I get really tired of the way Sam Jackson is almost Expected to say something pertaining to MOTHER F***'N / F*CKER. Even when some dude on G4 interviewed him, he seemed to want to be taken more seriously.
It just gets really old, especially when the man is capable of so much more. Yeah, it's cool to see him get all Jules on us, but I think fans should give it a break after a while. Are we really Sam Jackson fans, or just fans of his badass-like character(s).
Why? Because stupid films like Snakes on a Plane should be left to actors I don't want to watch, so I'm not accidentally enticed to go see a stupid movie. With great acting comes great responsibility.
Clearly Ben Affleck should have been in Snakes on a Plane.
Um... how could you be tricking into seeing a stupid movie with a title like Snakes on a Plane?
A little perspective and title analysis is needed here, methinks.
Caveman's Valentine may be my favorite Sam Jackson movie right after Pulp Fiction. Great flick.
-edit- I'd better add something useful to this post-
I get really tired of the way Sam Jackson is almost Expected to say something pertaining to MOTHER F***'N / F*CKER. Even when some dude on G4 interviewed him, he seemed to want to be taken more seriously.
It just gets really old, especially when the man is capable of so much more. Yeah, it's cool to see him get all Jules on us, but I think fans should give it a break after a while. Are we really Sam Jackson fans, or just fans of his badass-like character(s).
Oh, I'm an old school "bit parts in Spike Lee movies" Sam Jackson fan! And I did very much enjoy Caveman's Valentine, as I think it's one of his best dramatic performances to date. But the whole reason the "mother f***in' snakes" line was even in the movie was because fans wanted it in. It's expected because the overall feel of the film calls for it. The film calls for the character to be somewhat of a badass, and if the badass in question is being played by Samuel L. Jackson, why wouldn't you want him to say it?
Valmore
08-23-2006, 12:34 PM
Um... how could you be tricking into seeing a stupid movie with a title like Snakes on a Plane?
A little perspective and title analysis is needed here, methinks.
Because Samuel L. Jackson is so darn good, he's making me want to watch what is clearly a dumb, internet-driven movie that I'd ordinarily have no interest in.
Thank goodness they didn't put Bruce Campbell in it with him, or I'd HAVE to see it.
kalorama
08-23-2006, 01:02 PM
Because Samuel L. Jackson is so darn good, he's making me want to watch what is clearly a dumb, internet-driven movie that I'd ordinarily have no interest in.
Two words. First word: FREE Second word: WILL.
the film freak
08-23-2006, 02:45 PM
Why? Because stupid films like Snakes on a Plane should be left to actors I don't want to watch, so I'm not accidentally enticed to go see a stupid movie. With great acting comes great responsibility.
With that sort of attitude we wouldn't get guys like Alec Guiness in Star Wars, Ian McKellen in X-Men and Roddy McDowell in Planet of the Apes. All three starred in goofy movies (yes Star Wars and X-Men are goofy from a non comic fan perspective) with scripts that weren't the greatest. But they ended up bringing something new and interesting to the table and made those movies better.
Silliw 2
08-23-2006, 05:42 PM
But the whole reason the "mother f***in' snakes" line was even in the movie was because fans wanted it in. It's expected because the overall feel of the film calls for it. The film calls for the character to be somewhat of a badass, and if the badass in question is being played by Samuel L. Jackson, why wouldn't you want him to say it?
I understand, but I think your missing my point. My comment was concerning how I think that it is possible that Sam Jackson may not become so popular once all of the "fans" get tired of hearing him rehash the same old lines over and over, therefore affecting his career. i hope that doesn't happen, because he has been one of favorites for a while now.
Then again, I'm no expert. Bruce Campbell and Mr. T still have their fans, and usually only because of a few memorable lines.
Valmore
08-23-2006, 06:10 PM
I'm not taking credit for that one. Ugh.
Yeah, that one was mine.
Really, I just would normally have little interest in a film like Snakes on a Plane. But then a good actor who I enjoy watching took a role in it and it almost makes me want to see it. Which is more of a testament to Sam Jackson being a good actor.
Buzz Dixon
08-24-2006, 06:25 AM
"Mutha-[love]in'" is Samuel L. Jackson's equvalent of "I'll be back," i.e., a catchphrase he was to say because everybody is waiting for him to say it and will be disappointed if he doesn't.
Jared
08-24-2006, 06:17 PM
Clearly Ben Affleck should have been in Snakes on a Plane.
But then we would all be rooting for the snakes.
In a Time article Jackson said he's always wanted to be in a Western and hopes to do one next. He's got enough money that he doens't have to choose parts based on that. He doesn't seem terribly interested in awards. And he loves seeing himself on-screen, so why not choose projects that he'll enjoy making?
Valmore
08-24-2006, 07:21 PM
But then we would all be rooting for the snakes.
A fun horror/action flick can involve rooting for the bad guys!
In a Time article Jackson said he's always wanted to be in a Western and hopes to do one next. He's got enough money that he doens't have to choose parts based on that. He doesn't seem terribly interested in awards. And he loves seeing himself on-screen, so why not choose projects that he'll enjoy making?
I would go watch a western flick with Samuel L. Jackson in it. Totally.
mistervader
08-26-2006, 11:39 AM
After having seen his movie, I don't think he has any cause to worry. I can say with conviction that he looked like he was genuinely enjoying himself in the movie, and he was going the "take myself seriously in this role" route precisely because he knows it's not something he's supposed to take seriously. :p
Waffles
08-26-2006, 12:38 PM
With every couple Snakes On A Plane there's a Black Snake Moan to quiet the dissenters. Just you wait.
Sam is fine. He has absolutely nothing to worry about. He's reached icon status and he has 100% control over his career. Poor Sam!
Pacino has long been a parody of himself and he still gets respect for past work. And the good thing about Sam is that he knows what's he doing when he picks a movie. He picks moments to parody himself. There is little to no pretentiousness in him and people respond to that.
kel25
08-26-2006, 12:48 PM
Sam is easily one of my favorite actors but I honestly have to question the sanity of anyone, not including desperate actors, who agrees to be in, help create, or watch a film called Snakes on a Plane. On second thought even a desperate actor would be insane to take this roll.
After watching the trailer for the first time in theaters the only thing I could think is “WTF?! Are they serious?!”
Valmore
08-26-2006, 01:26 PM
Sam is easily one of my favorite actors but I honestly have to question the sanity of anyone, not including desperate actors, who agrees to be in, help create, or watch a film called Snakes on a Plane. On second thought even a desperate actor would be insane to take this roll.
After watching the trailer for the first time in theaters the only thing I could think is “WTF?! Are they serious?!”
Well, as much as it's a dumb film that I still won't see despite Sam Jackson being in it and how I've been having my fun goofing on it, it's going to appeal to anyone looking for a sit-down, eat popcorn and don't think too hard film to watch. They can't all be Schindler's List. Heck, there's actually a need for films like that. Otherwise, Adam Sandler wouldn't have had a career.
Jackson has reached a point in his career where he can do a film he feels is fun and not really be hurt by it. Heck, the film made back over half of its production cost in its first weekend and will probably make money after its run is over and DVD sales/rentals are added in. So really, how insane can he be?
kel25
08-26-2006, 03:01 PM
Well, as much as it's a dumb film that I still won't see despite Sam Jackson being in it and how I've been having my fun goofing on it, it's going to appeal to anyone looking for a sit-down, eat popcorn and don't think too hard film to watch. They can't all be Schindler's List. Heck, there's actually a need for films like that. Otherwise, Adam Sandler wouldn't have had a career.Oh I completely agree the world needs popcorn flicks and I’m a huge fan of them. But this movie makes popcorn flicks look like Schindler's List.:evilsmile
Jared
08-26-2006, 03:13 PM
Sam is easily one of my favorite actors but I honestly have to question the sanity of anyone, not including desperate actors, who agrees to be in, help create, or watch a film called Snakes on a Plane. On second thought even a desperate actor would be insane to take this roll.
After watching the trailer for the first time in theaters the only thing I could think is “WTF?! Are they serious?!”
I have to admit that when I first read about it, I couldn't believe it was something ever concieved of as an actual movie. It *had* to be for the Sci-Fi channel. I just had to.
Waffles
08-26-2006, 06:13 PM
Sam is easily one of my favorite actors but I honestly have to question the sanity of anyone, not including desperate actors, who agrees to be in, help create, or watch a film called Snakes on a Plane. On second thought even a desperate actor would be insane to take this roll.
That's completely inaccurate. A desperate actor does what he can to get work.
After watching the trailer for the first time in theaters the only thing I could think is “WTF?! Are they serious?!”
And the answer would be no... no, they were not serious.
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