X-Crescence XXII: Lily, Rosemary and the Jack of Hearts

[Jake V]

Madeline Pryor?

[Dizzy D]

Madeline Pryor?

Nope, still dead as far as we know.

[Flight]

I just noticed that some motherfucker called "Guts/Batman" has stolen my avatar.

I demand that the douchebag be destroyed. He's a deadman.

*punches fist*

[Cayman]

Just read the end of Greys storyline. Ha, but there is still a third Grey-genes carrier! (unless he/she was killed off-panel) (Not Jean, not Cable and not Rachel)

Cookie for the person who knows.

Firebird!

Cay

[Dizzy D]

Firebird!

Cay

OK, tips:

a) Drew will never guess, because it was in a title he didn't read.

b) The character in question has no name and no sex is known. In fact it may be even more than one character.

[Cayman]

OK, tips:

a) Drew will never guess, because it was in a title he didn't read.

b) The character in question has no name and no sex is known. In fact it may be even more than one character.

Hyperstorm?

Cay

[Zombienorthstar]

OK, tips:

a) Drew will never guess, because it was in a title he didn't read.

b) The character in question has no name and no sex is known. In fact it may be even more than one character.



WHA! lol....ummm....i dunno....tell us!

[Dizzy D]

Hyperstorm?

Cay

Hey, another possibility I didn't think off.

No, I was referring to Threnody getting knocked up by Nate Grey and then disappearing into comic limbo. THough off-panel abortions are common in Marvel (eh, Dazzler?)

[Zombienorthstar]

Hey, another possibility I didn't think off.

No, I was referring to Threnody getting knocked up by Nate Grey and then disappearing into comic limbo. THough off-panel abortions are common in Marvel (eh, Dazzler?)


Ooooh...

this is an interesting development...could the kid be in sinsiters care now?

[Hi-Fi]

Hey, another possibility I didn't think off.

No, I was referring to Threnody getting knocked up by Nate Grey and then disappearing into comic limbo. THough off-panel abortions are common in Marvel (eh, Dazzler?)

Didn't Madelyne kill her in X-Man 25??

[Dizzy D]

Didn't Madelyne kill her in X-Man 25??

She got better.

[Flight]

Oh my godz!!! I've been invited to Meet Joe Black!!
Yayzzzz!!!

[Gaveedra 6]

Hey X-Cres! How's everybody?

[Mikl C]

Lol I'm drunk and made a very silly phonecall.

[Brian M.]

Well I'm out for the night X-Cres, y'all have a good one.

[Citizen V]

^I always wondered why your title said "A woman touched me".

I suppose some steriotypes of comic readers are true..

[Cayman]

Oh my godz!!! I've been invited to Meet Joe Black!!
Yayzzzz!!!

Does that mean you have an appointment with Death incarnated?

Don't leave us, Flight. Don't go towards the light!


He was so young. :(

Cay

[Jake V]

^I always wondered why your title said "A woman touched me".

I suppose some steriotypes of comic readers are true..
Maybe it's meant to be sarcastic.

Is retarded eurotrash familliar with the term?

[Cayman]

Is Example Otherwise on the X-Cres MySpace group ForTheGoodOfX?

Cay

[Cayman]

I just noticed that some motherfucker called "Guts/Batman" has stolen my avatar.

I demand that the douchebag be destroyed.

*imagines Sue Storm singing The Crystals's "He Hit Me And It Felt Like A Kiss"*

Cay

[Faded]

^I always wondered why your title said "A woman touched me".

I suppose some steriotypes of comic readers are true..

You should try building bridges, not burning them. ;)

[Cayman]

You should try building bridges, not burning them. ;)

Pretty avatar, Faded. Is it Catseye?

Cay

[Hi-Fi]

Who is Juice Stain in myspace?? He's i the X-Cres group and request me to add him.

[Cayman]

Who is Juice Stain in myspace?? He's i the X-Cres group and request me to add him.

That's Uncle Nobs. Add him!

Cay

[Hi-Fi]

That's Uncle Nobs. Add him!

Cay

I just did!:)

The thing is he was on wait for a long time without me even realizing it!! I didn't got an e-mail warning me.

I just added Jake as well.

[Cayman]

I just did!:)

The thing is he was on wait for a long time without me even realizing it!! I didn't got an e-mail warning me.

I just added Jake as well.

Do you have AIM, Hi-Fi?

Cay

[Hi-Fi]

Do you have AIM, Hi-Fi?

Cay

No, just msn.


Man, I miss Lost.

I wanna watch season 3 like right now!!

I'm worried for our heroes!

[Jack Flash]

I woulda guessed it right Dizzy! damn.

[Cayman]

I woulda guessed it right Dizzy! damn.

What's your AIM again?

Cay

[Cayman]

No, just msn.


Man, I miss Lost.

I wanna watch season 3 like right now!!

I'm worried for our heroes!

Me too!

Hurley's gonna be at the San Diego convention.

Cay

[Hi-Fi]

Me too!

Hurley's gonna be at the San Diego convention.

Cay

Well I'm gonna be in Brazil. :evilangry :evilangry :evilangry

[Cayman]

Well I'm gonna be in Brazil. :evilangry :evilangry :evilangry

I'm gonna ask him to write "Dude, you've got some Arzt on you" on my shoulder with magic marker.

Cay

[Hi-Fi]

I'm gonna ask him to write "Dude, you've got some Arzt on you" on my shoulder with magic marker.

Cay

:D

Ask him if he miss Libby:(

[Jack Flash]

What's your AIM again?

Cay

jaqueflash or jacqueflash or jacque flash.

i can't get the damn thing to work latle.y/

[Jack Flash]

and yea, ftgox is eo.

[Cayman]

and yea, ftgox is eo.

I sent him a friend request. Dunno if he'll accept though, I don't think he liked me.

Cay

[Faded]

Pretty avatar, Faded. Is it Catseye?

Cay

Yes it is, from Generation X #55.

And thanks. :)

[Cayman]

Ooh, I thought of another X-Men pick-up line.

This one only works if you're chatting up an Asian woman.

"Baby, you must be The Hand because I suddenly want to find myself in the body of an Asian woman".

Cay

[rilokyle]

Ok, so I definitely just joined the x-cres myspace group, for kicks. I feel kinda dorky, but whatevs, I'm proud of my love for comics/cbr.

In other news, I just worked all night at the movie theatres, and damn I'm tired. Ugggg, and I get to it all over again tomorrow! But at least I'm going to a party tomorrow night with Catholic school boys- should be interesting. If you know what I mean. :D

[Cayman]

Ok, so I definitely just joined the x-cres myspace group, for kicks. I feel kinda dorky, but whatevs, I'm proud of my love for comics/cbr.

In other news, I just worked all night at the movie theatres, and damn I'm tired. Ugggg, and I get to it all over again tomorrow! But at least I'm going to a party tomorrow night with Catholic school boys- should be interesting. If you know what I mean. :D

Will there be uniforms? Like a Britney Spears video? :eek:

Cay

[rilokyle]

Will there be uniforms? Like a Britney Spears video? :eek:

Cay
Nawww, although I suppose they did wear uniforms at one point. It's my friend's party and he's inviting all his friends from his private catholic high school that they all graduated from last year. I'm intrigued if there will be any hotties there lol. :D

PS: I totally got your friend request on myspace. Loves it. :)

[streator]

He's SEVENTEEN? are you SERIOUS? i assumed he was at least late 30s. I want my hair to be blonder.
http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4348/cream8rm.png (http://imageshack.us)


no relevance

[Mariah]

http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/4348/cream8rm.png (http://imageshack.us)


no relevance
Are you pregnant?(i'm assuming that's a pickle, and not a piece of crap)

[Rachel Grey]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/IantistarI/hayguyz.jpg

That is the most cheerful-looking snake I have ever seen. I want whatever it's on.

[streator]

Are you pregnant?(i'm assuming that's a pickle, and not a piece of crap)
http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/1820/nakeddude9gf.th.jpg (http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nakeddude9gf.jpg)

I'M GRAEME

[Cayman]

That is the most cheerful-looking snake I have ever seen. I want whatever it's on.

Reallly good mouse.

Cay

[rilokyle]

Alright, I'm off to bed. Good night everyone!! :)

[Mariah]

http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/1820/nakeddude9gf.th.jpg (http://img81.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nakeddude9gf.jpg)

I'M GRAEME
so, you're pregnant with puck's baby? Are you gonna have the girl puck from the crappy Alpha Flight series?

[streator]

so, you're pregnant with puck's baby? Are you gonna have the girl puck from the crappy Alpha Flight series?
i am just bored and drinking, that's all.
those were both old pictures that made me laugh for whatever reason.

that second picture in particular, i used to always send it to my girlfriend instead of whatever real pic i claimed to be sending and seeing her get pissed that it was that guy again.
i enjoy doing weird stuff sometimes, i guess.


and i'm not pregnant; my name is kellen, i am male, nearly 22 and about to start law school.

[Rachel Grey]

Just read the end of Greys storyline. Ha, but there is still a third Grey-genes carrier! (unless he/she was killed off-panel) (Not Jean, not Cable and not Rachel)

Cookie for the person who knows.

Alex. How'd they forget him?

Edit: Nevermind. My bad.

[The Lucky One]

*checks out Mariah's new avatar*

Ah... so what are you ashamed of, kiddo? Hmmm?
:cool:

Anyway, I'm off to sleep. Night, gang!

-D

[Mariah]

*checks out Mariah's new avatar*

Ah... so what are you ashamed of, kiddo? Hmmm?
:cool:

Anyway, I'm off to sleep. Night, gang!

-D
Because of some of the stuff people we're posting about me. It was like I was in high school again, and the girls who didn't like me, would treat me like a social leper. Don't worry, I'll be over it in a day or two, I bounce back fast.

Night Drew

[Foley]

Bad day? I'm catching up on some alcoholism in knoxville and haven't been on the boards

[twilight]

You wusses couldn't even kill this thread during the time I was away?

[Brian Cronin]

I thought it was funny that Brian came to the same conclusion I did about him posting on the Comm Board. :)

-Brian

[Jake V]

You wusses couldn't even kill this thread during the time I was away?
I was BUSY doing IMPORTANT THINGS like DRINKING and MAKING OUT WITH GIRLS I DON'T KNOW.

But I am here now.


You think we can do 200 posts tonight?

[Rachel Grey]

Enough is enough! I've had it with these motherfucking snakes on this motherfucking plane!

[Jake V]

Enough is enough! I've had it with these motherfucking snakes on this motherfucking plane!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/IantistarI/hayguyz.jpg

[Uncle Nobs]

Oh my godz!!! I've been invited to Meet Joe Black!!
Yayzzzz!!!
Stop being funny!! :mad: :mad:

My heart can only take so much.

[Rachel Grey]

lol, you know, I hate snakes but I love that pic. :D

[Jake V]

Oh, and Mariah, if you think I was making fun of you, I wasn't. I was making fun of the ridiculous reaction to you.

I'm sure you're very nice and attractive, but there's some guys in here that treat girls like potential sex objects instead of people.

And that's worth making fun of.

[Uncle Nobs]

Oh, and Mariah, if you think I was making fun of you, I wasn't. I was making fun of the ridiculous reaction to you.

I'm sure you're very nice and attractive, but there's some guys in here that treat girls like potential sex objects instead of people.

And that's worth making fun of.
Yeah, that's pretty much what I was trying to say earlier, too. A few guys can get carried away talking about sex in here, and they only get worse when a pretty girl shows up. It's all fun, but sometimes it just goes on too long. It's nothing you did.

[Uncle Nobs]

Also, I like vodka.

[Jake V]

Nobs, did you get my friend request?

[Uncle Nobs]

Also, why isn't Quick Reply working?

[Uncle Nobs]

Nobs, did you get my friend request?
You're IN, bitch!

[Jake V]

You're IN, bitch!
FUCKIN RIGHT!!!

I drink to celebrate!!

[Uncle Nobs]

If you're looking for a friend, you could do a lot worse than vodka.

[Uncle Nobs]

Also, lest I forget: vodka.

[Jake V]

If you're looking for a friend, you could do a lot worse than vodka.
In Soviet Russia, Vodka does worse than friend!!

[Uncle Nobs]

In Soviet Russia, Vodka does worse than friend!!
What a country!!

[twilight]

I think he should quit comics for a year. Discover music and girls. Get a trendy haircut and do some recreational drugs. At least a normal teenage summer.

Sounds like my Saturday night.

[Jake V]

Sounds like my Saturday night.
Sounds like most normal people's saturday nights.

But I bet he's pouring over some issue of Uncanny from the mid 80's and taking notes.

I quit reading comics at like 15 and then I started getting laid and drunk and I had a great time. If I kept reading from then up until now, I'd be the most miserable nerd on the planet. And I wouldn't have discovered vodka.

[Uncle Nobs]

Sounds like most normal people's saturday nights.

But I bet he's pouring over some issue of Uncanny from the mid 80's and taking notes.

I quit reading comics at like 15 and then I started getting laid and drunk and I had a great time. If I kept reading from then up until now, I'd be the most miserable nerd on the planet.
You forgot to say vodka.

[Jake V]

You forgot to say vodka.
I have no idea what you're talking about.

[Uncle Nobs]

I have no idea what you're talking about.
That's okay. Vodka knows. Idn't dat wight, vodka? Yes it is! You're my widdle--


FUCK! Creeped myself out with baby talk again! Why do I try this shit?!

[The Fury]

It is official. I have always though that go a guy I was not that great at bowling. I had 2 games yesterday, first I got 139, the second I totally crumbled and scored 79. about 120 is my average when ever playing. This thought of not being great was due to brother and cousin who all could bowl more then me. Still can.

But then looking arround I realised that I am good due to the fact I didn't see any of the near by rows and the groups of guys on them get over 100.

Weird that.

[Flight]

dirtycashiwantyou
dirtycashineedyouall~~~

[twilight]

dirtycashiwantyou
dirtycashineedyouall~~~

You know all the right things to say.

[Mikl C]

I suck at bowling. Unless they put those big inflatable sides on, in which case i ROCK! lol.

[Zombienorthstar]

Sounds like most normal people's saturday nights.

But I bet he's pouring over some issue of Uncanny from the mid 80's and taking notes.

I quit reading comics at like 15 and then I started getting laid and drunk and I had a great time. If I kept reading from then up until now, I'd be the most miserable nerd on the planet. And I wouldn't have discovered vodka.

I just read comics while downing vodka and having sex...its a happy medium,

All you Buddhists out there will appreciate my adoption of the middle way ;)

[Sentinel K]

Ahhhhh....having sex.

*wistful smile*

I used to do that.

[Zombienorthstar]

Ahhhhh....having sex.

*wistful smile*

I used to do that.


We've changed it now..you wanna know the new way? It involves cherryade.

[Sentinel K]

We've changed it now..you wanna know the new way? It involves cherryade.

Oh you crazy kids!

Its not as good anymore. Not like in the old days.

[Zombienorthstar]

Oh you crazy kids!

Its not as good anymore. Not like in the old days.


We still do the old stuff but only on 'Golden Oldies' night


I hate my head...if i try and wear a beanie hat it just looks like ive strched a condom over my head.

[Sentinel K]

We still do the old stuff but only on 'Golden Oldies' night


I hate my head...if i try and wear a beanie hat it just looks like ive strched a condom over my head.

I never wear hats.

I get to avoid looking like a tosser that way.

[The Fury]

I suck at bowling. Unless they put those big inflatable sides on, in which case i ROCK! lol.
Cheat.

Never used those.

Thinking about it, my whole family is good. if you count most getting over 100 good?...200 plus though, never.

[The Fury]

cherryade.
*change of subject time*

Cherryade alwasy reminds me of parties when I was a kid. We never had cherryade unless it was someone's party.

[Cayman]

Ugh. Police and emergency vehicle sirens all through the night. Groggy, I am.

Cay

[Zombienorthstar]

*change of subject time*

Cherryade alwasy reminds me of parties when I was a kid. We never had cherryade unless it was someone's party.


the additives in that shit...my god im surprised i can still see colours....plus have you ever tasted a cherry that was remotley like that...

[The Fury]

...plus have you ever tasted a cherry that was remotley like that...
Your talking to a guy who grew up on a farm that produced cherries and ate few hundred every year... so no.

[Zombienorthstar]

How do you guys read your comics?

Do you read your favourites first and then get around to the other stuff later.
Or do you do as i do and arrange the pile so that you save the best for last....is this a sign of OCD?

[Zombienorthstar]

Your talking to a guy who grew up on a farm that produced cherries and ate few hundred every year... so no.


My nan used to make us pick cherrys from a tree in her garden to make a pie.....i literallly only found out a few months ago that she actually used to just cook a frozen pie...my sister and I were genuinley pissed off.

[Cayman]

Eep. I clicked on a friend request I got on MySpace and it immediately took me to a porn page. I didn't know they could do that.

Cay

[Sentinel K]

How do you guys read your comics?

Do you read your favourites first and then get around to the other stuff later.
Or do you do as i do and arrange the pile so that you save the best for last....is this a sign of OCD?

I just pick whatever has got me most excited that week.

Unless there is a certain chronological order i should take into account (this weeks Uncanny, annual, excalibur)

This week i went straight for NA #20.

Next week will be YA #12. Can't wait.


Anyone heard the new Razorlite single? It's bollocks.

[Sentinel K]

Eep. I clicked on a friend request I got on MySpace and it immediately took me to a porn page. I didn't know they could do that.

Cay

Yeah I've had 2 of those.

They're deleted fairly quickly though.

I loathe spammers.

[Cayman]

Yeah I've had 2 of those.

They're deleted fairly quickly though.

I loathe spammers.

It wasn't even good porn

Cay

[Zombienorthstar]

Anyone heard the new Razorlite single? It's bollocks.

Yeah i liked their first album alot...but i get annoyed when the group gets overshadowed by the super-ego of the lead singer....same with the Libertines and Doherty....

The new single is a massive letdown...

[The Fury]

Happy Birthday Shadow Crawler.

[Zombienorthstar]

heres some good quotes to inspire you guys. Comments?:


"If I had only known, I would have been a locksmith."- Einstein


"Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. "- Mark Twain


"The weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong. "- Mahatma Gandhi


"The first step to getting the things you want out of life is this: Decide what you want."- Ben Stein


"Its just like the story of the grasshopper and the octopus. All year long the grasshopper kept burying acorns for winter while the octopus mooched off his girlfriend and watched TV. Then the winter came, and the grasshopper died, and the octopus ate all his acorns and also he got a racecar. Is any of this getting through to you?"- Phillip J Fry 'Futurama'


"Acts of men are better than Acts of God!" - Misato Katsuragi


Buffy: I think it's maybe some kind of scythe. The only thing I know for sure is that it made Caleb back off in a hurry.
Willow: [to Giles] So it's true. Scythe matters.


You're alive. Do something. The directive in life, the moral imperative was so uncomplicated. It could be expressed in single words, not complete sentences. It sounded like this: Look. Listen. Choose. Act- Barbara Hall


Perhaps the feelings that we experience when we are in love represent a normal state. Being in love shows a person who he should be- Anton Chekhov


A positive attitude may not solve all your problems, but it will annoy enough people to make it worth the effort- Herm Albright


What's money? A man is a success if he gets up in the morning and goes to bed at night and in between does what he wants to do- Bob Dylan


My Homer is not a communist. He may be a liar, a pig, an idiot, a communist, but he is not a porn star. - Abe Simpson


No, "Through the Looking Glass". That poem, "The Walrus and the Carpenter" that's an indictment of organized religion. The walrus, with his girth and his good nature, he obviously represents either Buddha, or... or with his tusk, the Hindu elephant god, Lord Ganesha. That takes care of your Eastern religions. Now the carpenter, which is an obvious reference to Jesus Christ, who was raised a carpenter's son, he represents the Western religions. Now in the poem, what do they do... what do they do? They... They dupe all these oysters into following them and then proceed to shuck and devour the helpless creatures en masse. I don't know what that says to you, but to me it says that following these faiths based on mythological figures ensure the destruction of one's inner-being. Organized religion destroys who we are by inhibiting our actions... by inhibiting our decisions, out of... out of fear of some... some intangible parent figure who... who shakes a finger at us from thousands of years ago and says... and says, "Do it - Do it and I'll fuckin' spank you. " Loki 'Dogma'.


"Theology is never any help; it is searching in a dark cellar at midnight for a black cat that isn't there. Theologians can persuade themselves of anything." - Robert A. Heinlein

'Always forgive your enemies, nothing annoys them as much.'- Oscar Wilde

[twilight]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Guess what I'm crowing about.

[Zombienorthstar]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Guess what I'm crowing about.


Your abbility to carry vowel sounds on for a long time?

Do tell...

[twilight]

Your abbility to carry vowel sounds on for a long time?

Do tell...

Okay...it's this;
http://www.impawards.com/1986/posters/care_bears_movie_ii.jpg

[Mariah]

Oh, and Mariah, if you think I was making fun of you, I wasn't. I was making fun of the ridiculous reaction to you.

I'm sure you're very nice and attractive, but there's some guys in here that treat girls like potential sex objects instead of people.

And that's worth making fun of.
Thanks Jake and Unca Nobs, I know you guys were mostly talking to the guys, but I just felt mabye it was my fault, for going along with it. But that's alright, I'm fine now.

[Brian M.]

Thanks Jake and Unca Nobs, I know you guys were mostly talking to the guys, but I just felt mabye it was my fault, for going along with it. But that's alright, I'm fine now.

I think I missed something this weekend.

[Zombienorthstar]

I think I missed something this weekend.


I got drunk...so i did too...i love alkie-hol


Hey guys its my last alevel exam tomorrow....i need X-Cres shaped support.

[Brian M.]

I got drunk...so i did too...i love alkie-hol


Hey guys its my last alevel exam tomorrow....i need X-Cres shaped support.

Shaped support? Right now I'm gonna go downstairs and make a kick, kick ass breakfest. Eggs, bacon, english muffins, hash browns. It's gonna be awesome and cure my hangover.

[Mariah]

I think I missed something this weekend.
some of the other posters got sick of some of the online flirting on here. But it's alright, they said they're sorry.

[Mariah]

I got drunk...so i did too...i love alkie-hol


Hey guys its my last alevel exam tomorrow....i need X-Cres shaped support.
What shape of support do you need baby? Mmmm...I had a daquiri last night, ooh, baby, that tasted so good after the night I had

[Brian M.]

some of the other posters got sick of some of the online flirting on here. But it's alright, they said they're sorry.


Oh ok. Well I know a lil is fun but it had been getting pretty strong, I know I wasn't helping either, so I'm sorry.

[Zombienorthstar]

What shape of support do you need baby? Mmmm...I had a daquiri last night, ooh, baby, that tasted so good after the night I had


i was only making with the funny...im not an emotional wreck...yet


Hey Mariah UTV what you think of my inspirational quotes?

[Brian M.]

What shape of support do you need baby? Mmmm...I had a daquiri last night, ooh, baby, that tasted so good after the night I had


Hey I had about 14 shots of rum and 6 beers at the bar. I was feeling allllllllllllllllllriiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

[Mariah]

i was only making with the funny...im not an emotional wreck...yet


Hey Mariah UTV what you think of my inspirational quotes?
I loved the one about the Walrus and the Carpenter. Probably because Alice in Wonderland is probably my favorite disney cartoon next to Sleeping Beauty.

[Brian M.]

i was only making with the funny...im not an emotional wreck...yet


Hey Mariah UTV what you think of my inspirational quotes?

I use to have a webpage bookmarked that had a ton of them. Some really good ones.

This is my favorite quote of all time though, it's from a book I've read, Heart of a Soldier. I highly recommend it. The main character was talking about what it means to be a man and a soldier.

"In everything that can be called art there is a quality of redemption. It may be pure tragedy, if it is high tragedy, and it may be pity and irony, and it may be the raucous laughter of the strong man. But down these mean streets a man must go who is not himself mean, who is neither tarnished nor afraid. He is the hero; he is everything. He must be a complete man and a common man and yet an unusual man. He must be, to use a rather weathered phrase, a man of honor---by instinct, by inevitability, without thought of it, and certainly without saying it. He must be the best man in his world and a good enough man for any world."

~Raymond Chandler


I love it.

[Mariah]

Hey I had about 14 shots of rum and 6 beers at the bar. I was feeling allllllllllllllllllriiiiiiiiiiiiiight.
I bet you we're feeling alllllllllllrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. I was by myself as my roommates we're all sleeping. So, what fun is it to get drunk if you're by yourself?

[Brian M.]

I bet you we're feeling alllllllllllrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. I was by myself as my roommates we're all sleeping. So, what fun is it to get drunk if you're by yourself?

I was drunk enough to start dancing. Trust me, I don't dance.

[Mariah]

I use to have a webpage bookmarked that had a ton of them. Some really good ones.

This is my favorite quote of all time though, it's from a book I've read, Heart of a Soldier. I highly recommend it. The main character was talking about what it means to be a man and a soldier.

"In everything that can be called art there is a quality of redemption. It may be pure tragedy, if it is high tragedy, and it may be pity and irony, and it may be the raucous laughter of the strong man. But down these mean streets a man must go who is not himself mean, who is neither tarnished nor afraid. He is the hero; he is everything. He must be a complete man and a common man and yet an unusual man. He must be, to use a rather weathered phrase, a man of honor---by instinct, by inevitability, without thought of it, and certainly without saying it. He must be the best man in his world and a good enough man for any world."

~Raymond Chandler


I love it.
Wow, you guys are talking about some really deep stuff this morning. I gotta fully wake up to absorb it all. *lays head against 'puter screen to absorb through osmosis.*

[Brian M.]

Also this one right here is a good one from the movie Dazed and Confused. I forget the character name who said it but it was the "dumb jock type".

"Well, all I'm saying is that I want to look back and say that I did it the best I could while I was stuck in this place. Had as much fun as I could while I was stuck in this place. Played as hard as I could while I was stuck in this place. Dobbed as many girls as I could while I was stuck in this place."

-Dazed and Confused

[Mariah]

I was drunk enough to start dancing. Trust me, I don't dance.
hahahahhahahaha I bet you got white boy syndrome. Got two left feet. That's alright babe, one day I'll teach you how to dance. You gotta feel the music.

[Zombienorthstar]

I bet you we're feeling alllllllllllrrriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. I was by myself as my roommates we're all sleeping. So, what fun is it to get drunk if you're by yourself?

isnt that a sign of alcoholism...:confused:


Im only joshin Mariah....i heard a comic shop guy telling some poor dude he should buy like three copies of the new civil war as it would be worth loads of money by the end of the year....i felt like i was witnessing a robberey and couldnt stop it :(

[Brian M.]

Wow, you guys are talking about some really deep stuff this morning. I gotta fully wake up to absorb it all. *lays head against 'puter screen to absorb through osmosis.*


Well since I missed out on the yelling and everything I figure I'd help out ZN and bring in something mature :)

[Mariah]

Also this one right here is a good one from the movie Dazed and Confused. I forget the character name who said it but it was the "dumb jock type".

"Well, all I'm saying is that I want to look back and say that I did it the best I could while I was stuck in this place. Had as much fun as I could while I was stuck in this place. Played as hard as I could while I was stuck in this place. Dobbed as many girls as I could while I was stuck in this place."

-Dazed and Confused
It was the character that was played by Jason London...my boyfriend used to watch that movie all the time, fricken useless pot smoker that he was. Did you guys seen Matt Damon make a cameo when they we're at the fast food restaurant.

[Brian M.]

hahahahhahahaha I bet you got white boy syndrome. Got two left feet. That's alright babe, one day I'll teach you how to dance. You gotta feel the music.

I do the white boy shuffle. Move my feet, slightly move my hips and nothing with my arms. Unless it's a Bon Jovi song and then I'm going nuts.

[Novaya Havoc]

HAPPY GAY PRIDE EVERYONE!!!!

http://embruns.net/images/gp-2005/gay-pride-2005-08.jpg

[Zombienorthstar]

hahahahhahahaha I bet you got white boy syndrome. Got two left feet. That's alright babe, one day I'll teach you how to dance. You gotta feel the music.


not to blow my own horn (and believe me ive tried;) ) But i dance really well for a white guy...i get complimented on it all the time...and i am a tall man that should diminish my abbility to but seriosuly im good at spinnign people roudn the dance floor...and i dont require alcohol lol

[Brian M.]

It was the character that was played by Jason London...my boyfriend used to watch that movie all the time, fricken useless pot smoker that he was. Did you guys seen Matt Damon make a cameo when they we're at the fast food restaurant.


Yea. I love the movie. That quote, minus the dobbing part I think is really good.

[Zombienorthstar]

HAPPY GAY PRIDE EVERYONE!!!!

http://embruns.net/images/gp-2005/gay-pride-2005-08.jpg


Am i a really bad gay man for not knowing it was gay pride?

[Brian M.]

HAPPY GAY PRIDE EVERYONE!!!!

http://embruns.net/images/gp-2005/gay-pride-2005-08.jpg


Isn't that going on in Atlanta? Or is it a National thing going on everywhere?

[Mariah]

isnt that a sign of alcoholism...:confused:


Im only joshin Mariah....i heard a comic shop guy telling some poor dude he should buy like three copies of the new civil war as it would be worth loads of money by the end of the year....i felt like i was witnessing a robberey and couldnt stop it :(
lol, yes it is.

Eek!! I would have handed the boy some brass knuckles and punch that fat nerd behind the counter.

[Fatguy]

My Homer is not a communist. He may be a liar, a pig, an idiot, a communist, but he is not a porn star. - Abe Simpson

HAHA! I had one of those spit water moments

[Brian M.]

Am i a really bad gay man for not knowing it was gay pride?


I think they revoke your Gay Card, back to women for you.

[Mariah]

I do the white boy shuffle. Move my feet, slightly move my hips and nothing with my arms. Unless it's a Bon Jovi song and then I'm going nuts.
Sigh, you straight white boys need soo much help lol.

[Zombienorthstar]

i havent had sex for a week...i feel bad....seriously i need sex.

my dudes busy with work at the moment and hes moving and im busy with exams...not much time for the loving.:(

[Zombienorthstar]

HAHA! I had one of those spit water moments


I know. I think its funnier when its hidden amongst all those sensible quotes about life.

[Mariah]

Yea. I love the movie. That quote, minus the dobbing part I think is really good.
What the heck is dobbing?

[Brian M.]

Ok well I need to go wash the scent of bar off my body. After that I need to eat.

[Novaya Havoc]

Isn't that going on in Atlanta? Or is it a National thing going on everywhere?

June is Gay Pride Month, so it can happen on any weekend. There isn't a universal date. Here in Chicago (and back in my hometown in Lansing), it was this weekend.

http://www.shanghaiist.com/attachments/shang_dan/The_More_You_Know.jpg

[Zombienorthstar]

June is Gay Pride Month, so it can happen on any weekend. There isn't a universal date. Here in Chicago (and back in my hometown in Lansing), it was this weekend.

http://www.shanghaiist.com/attachments/shang_dan/The_More_You_Know.jpg



Is it an american thing or an international thing? Am i a bad gay men for not knowing once again...

[Brian M.]

June is Gay Pride Month, so it can happen on any weekend. There isn't a universal date. Here in Chicago (and back in my hometown in Lansing), it was this weekend.

http://www.shanghaiist.com/attachments/shang_dan/The_More_You_Know.jpg

Well thank you for that information.

[Fatguy]

I do the white boy shuffle. Move my feet, slightly move my hips and nothing with my arms. Unless it's a Bon Jovi song and then I'm going nuts.

That is so unbelievably tragic.

I am terrible unless you get me into a mesh tanktop and cutoff jean shorts, then suddenly the music just takes control. Believe me, its sexy.

[twilight]

HAPPY GAY PRIDE EVERYONE!!!!

http://embruns.net/images/gp-2005/gay-pride-2005-08.jpg

Watch out for that killer rainbow Homosexualists!

[Mariah]

Isn't that going on in Atlanta? Or is it a National thing going on everywhere?
It's a national thing. What I don't understand is how some guys go buck wild and walk through the streets naked on Gay Pride day?

[Brian M.]

It's a national thing. What I don't understand is how some guys go buck wild and walk through the streets naked on Gay Pride day?


Yea, I get in trouble when I do it drunk.

[Zombienorthstar]

It's a national thing. What I don't understand is how some guys go buck wild and walk through the streets naked on Gay Pride day?


See the negative thing about gay pride is that some people use it as an excuse to showcase things that DONT make me proud to be a gay man...


I dont fit comfortbaly into the gay subculture unfortunatley...

[Mariah]

See the negative thing about gay pride is that some people use it as an excuse to showcase things that DONT make me proud to be a gay man...


I dont fit comfortbaly into the gay subculture unfortunatley...
I know not all gay men are like that, as a lot of my friends are gay men, but I just don't understand this. If I wanted to take my kids to show them a very nice parade, full of people who deserve to be recognised for the hardships they have to endure, I can't as I don't want them exposed to someone's genitalia. But I love the fact that they give themselves a parade, it's too awesome, especially when the current head of state is trying to pass a law forbidding them to get married. Total horse crap.

[Brian M.]

I thought it was funny that Brian came to the same conclusion I did about him posting on the Comm Board. :)

-Brian



Yea, please, don't ever lift that ban. Make that one permanent. I'll stick to the Marvel Board and be just fine.

[Mariah]

Yea, I get in trouble when I do it drunk.
lol, that's why you do it in the privacy of your home:p

[Brian M.]

lol, that's why you do it in the privacy of your home:p

Yea my mirror was getting pretty tired of it though.

[Zombienorthstar]

I know not all gay men are like that, as a lot of my friends are gay men, but I just don't understand this. If I wanted to take my kids to show them a very nice parade, full of people who deserve to be recognised for the hardships they have to endure, I can't as I don't want them exposed to someone's genitalia. But I love the fact that they give themselves a parade, it's too awesome, especially when the current head of state is trying to pass a law forbidding them to get married. Total horse crap.


I agree its positive that we are recognised as a community...but thats the thing...gay men are so diverse and different that we rarely fit into one community....

I dont need a parade to serve as an example of how it isnt shameful to be gay. I do that in my everyday life by beign a good person who happens to be gay. Personally i think your more likely to change prejudices by doing that rather than having a flashy parade.

[Zombienorthstar]

So to follow up my mature sombre post...

...
...



...


...


Of the X-Cres boys who do you think has the biggest wang?

Anyone wanting to know mine ;) May just ask...ive got nothing to hide.

[Novaya Havoc]

I know not all gay men are like that, as a lot of my friends are gay men, but I just don't understand this. If I wanted to take my kids to show them a very nice parade, full of people who deserve to be recognised for the hardships they have to endure, I can't as I don't want them exposed to someone's genitalia. But I love the fact that they give themselves a parade, it's too awesome, especially when the current head of state is trying to pass a law forbidding them to get married. Total horse crap.

Yeah, there's a lot of people within the community who discourage that for the same reasons. But, at the same time, it's a complex social issue. It's tantamount to openly criticising racial minorities within the community for being "too ghetto," "to inarticulate," et cetera, et cetera, because they compromise the social face of the larger community.

For gays, it happens to be sex. But people freak the F out when you go out and derail them. I've been called a (looks at UT) republican because I'm more of a "colorblind" rather than "race conscious" person when it comes to gays in the broader spectrum of society. So it's not an easy thing to say "Have gay pride... in a limited, small fashion."

For a lot of people who have lost families, careers, and most everything else except the gay subculture, it's offensive to sort of "stuff them back into the closet." They resent it. And MOST people at these gay pride rallies and such are normal, everyday people wearing everyday clothing and just being a part of the celebration. And I think that is totally overshadowed in the media by the "gay pride = assless chaps and people fornicating in YOUR streets" sensationalist angle.

There's hope though. My family went to gay pride in Lansing yesterday(!) just to go and had a great time. And my family is a super-nuclear white, Christian family (2 parents, one son, one daughter, and a dog). And they went without me, the gay one they support. So... there's hope. :D

[Zombienorthstar]

There's hope though. My family went to gay pride in Lansing yesterday(!) just to go and had a great time. And my family is a super-nuclear white, Christian family (2 parents, one son, one daughter, and a dog). And they went without me, the gay one they support. So... there's hope. :D



My grandfather is what i call an armchair bigot...prejeudiced against most minorities but not to the extent of hate but of mild distrust that he is quite vocal about. He has however supported me in my coming out.

My 15 year old sister's boyfriend is black.


The other day he said 'Im a racist homophobe...are you kids testing me?' it made me laugh for a good twenty minutes.

[Novaya Havoc]

My grandfather is what i call an armchair bigot...prejeudiced against most minorities but not to the extent of hate but of mild distrust that he is quite vocal about. He has however supported me in my coming out.

My 15 year old sister's boyfriend is black.


The other day he said 'Im a racist homophobe...are you kids testing me?' it made me laugh for a good twenty minutes.

My family is a lot of blue-collar Michigan Democrats. Post-war, post-depression generation. They're far more interested in the economy, social security, and foreign policy than, say, abortions and gay marriage. And this doesn't take into account religion, which has been a staple of my family, but they have the good sense to bifurcate religion and politics.

They decidedly aren't hippie-liberals, so it's good to know there are sensible people in the world. :)

[Zombienorthstar]

My family is a lot of blue-collar Michigan Democrats. Post-war, post-depression generation. They're far more interested in the economy, social security, and foreign policy than, say, abortions and gay marriage. And this doesn't take into account religion, which has been a staple of my family, but they have the good sense to bifurcate religion and politics.

They decidedly aren't hippie-liberals, so it's good to know there are sensible people in the world. :)


Well my sisters boyfriend is muslim which i thinks concerns my parents (despite them not being religious, i think its the way women are treated[i dont share their view]). My boyfriend is Hindu

My dads fairly old fashioned but as my mother says that his kids making alternative choices has meant hes had to examine his prejudices and realise they're based on fear not any logical reason. So hes a better person for having had us. :D

[Brian M.]

People use Republican as an insult now? Does anyone even know what it means to be a Democrat or Republican these days?

[Novaya Havoc]

People use Republican as an insult now? Does anyone even know what it means to be a Democrat or Republican these days?

When you're talking about gay rights, republican is most assuredly an insult.

[Brian M.]

When you're talking about gay rights, republican is most assuredly an insult.


Yea I know, it's not a strong point of that belief system.

[Zombienorthstar]

When you're talking about gay rights, republican is most assuredly an insult.


Its hard to be gay and still see a party that fails to agknowledge you as a good thing.

The Conservative party in Britain are pushing equal rights for gay couples when it comes to tax which boggles the mind when you consider 15 years ago they were publically saying that children should not be taught 'that this abomination is a legitimiate lifestyle choice'.

I always resent it being reffered to as choice.

[Cayman]

Yeah, there's a lot of people within the community who discourage that for the same reasons. But, at the same time, it's a complex social issue. It's tantamount to openly criticising racial minorities within the community for being "too ghetto," "to inarticulate," et cetera, et cetera, because they compromise the social face of the larger community.

For gays, it happens to be sex. But people freak the F out when you go out and derail them. I've been called a (looks at UT) republican because I'm more of a "colorblind" rather than "race conscious" person when it comes to gays in the broader spectrum of society. So it's not an easy thing to say "Have gay pride... in a limited, small fashion."

For a lot of people who have lost families, careers, and most everything else except the gay subculture, it's offensive to sort of "stuff them back into the closet." They resent it. And MOST people at these gay pride rallies and such are normal, everyday people wearing everyday clothing and just being a part of the celebration. And I think that is totally overshadowed in the media by the "gay pride = assless chaps and people fornicating in YOUR streets" sensationalist angle.

There's hope though. My family went to gay pride in Lansing yesterday(!) just to go and had a great time. And my family is a super-nuclear white, Christian family (2 parents, one son, one daughter, and a dog). And they went without me, the gay one they support. So... there's hope. :D

There were a billion kids at the Seattle one yesterday.

Damn it.

Cay

[scott_torino]

I've got no problem with anybody ...until they draw attention to themselves. I don't know why, but something in my character just gets a bad taste in mouth when people attempt to draw attention to themselves. I dislike the whole Hollywood culture, and when groups of any political/social subculture make a point of saying we have overcome I can't help but think..."Overcome what?!" Laws in America are preferential to minority groups right now, and I don't see much overt discrimination... except that it is socially acceptable to discriminate against lower class whites. Every minority picks on "rednecks" and NASCAR. I mean I don't really care what anyone in America says is sooooo hard. We are not having hard times here, not blacks, gays, latinos, whites, and saying look at me, look at me, I am being discriminated against seems like whining to me. We aren't in Iraq, Sierra Leone, or the Sudan. Even countries that are supposed to be first world have massive areas with huge unemployment and crazy violence. How are WE soooo oppressed over here? Do some people get the short end of the stick because of what they are? Yes. What's my answer to that. Adapt and overcome. Some asshole won't hire gays, look for work elsewhere. I am sure there are plenty of homosexual friendly workplaces. Somehow I doubt I could get hired to work at a hip hop night club or even a gay night club... I don't think of that as a problem that the Supreme Court MUST address. I just feel that we all face some adversity in our lives, but not as much adversity as Iraqi school children, and if they can do what they have to as CHILDREN we should be able to get by with a HUGE THANKFUL SMILE. Maybe I am wrong, but the Civil Rights Movements of the 60's are history, and there is currently nothing analogous with what was happening to blacks in the South. Simply stated while gays may face some discrimination, they are not waking up to gays hanging from nooses with tacit goverment support. Hell, I'm a white dude in Fort Lauderdale and I face some discrimination. Trust me you do not want to be white on Sistrunk Blvd after the sun goes down. The cops will pull you over so quick, because you must be a carck head to be there. And that's not including the young black men who look at you the way a lion looks at a gazzelle. So we all have adversity, and definitely not as much as others, so whining about it just looks....whiny. But, I could be wrong.

[Cayman]

We're mere days from Superman Returns!

Cay

[Brian M.]

I've got no problem with anybody ...until they draw attention to themselves. I don't know why, but something in my character just gets a bad taste in mouth when people attempt to draw attention to themselves. I dislike the whole Hollywood culture, and when groups of any political/social subculture make a point of saying we have overcome I can't help but think..."Overcome what?!" Laws in America are preferential to minority groups right now, and I don't see much overt discrimination... except that it is socially acceptable to discriminate against lower class whites. Every minority picks on "rednecks" and NASCAR. I mean I don't really care what anyone in America says is sooooo hard. We are not having hard times here, not blacks, gays, latinos, whites, and saying look at me, look at me, I am being discriminated against seems like whining to me. We aren't in Iraq, Sierra Leone, or the Sudan. Even countries that are supposed to be first world have massive areas with huge unemployment and crazy violence. How are WE soooo oppressed over here? Do some people get the short end of the stick because of what they are? Yes. What's my answer to that. Adapt and overcome. Some asshole won't hire gays, look for work elsewhere. I am sure there are plenty of homosexual friendly workplaces. Somehow I doubt I could get hired to work at a hip hop night club or even a gay night club... I don't think of that as a problem that the Supreme Court MUST address. I just feel that we all face some adversity in our lives, but not as much adversity as Iraqi school children, and if they can do what they have to as CHILDREN we should be able to get by with a HUGE THANKFUL SMILE. Maybe I am wrong, but the Civil Rights Movements of the 60's are history, and there is currently nothing analogous with what was happening to blacks in the South. Simply stated while gays may face some discrimination, they are not waking up to gays hanging from nooses with tacit goverment support. Hell, I'm a white dude in Fort Lauderdale and I face some discrimination. Trust me you do not want to be white on Sistrunk Blvd after the sun goes down. The cops will pull you over so quick, because you must be a carck head to be there. And that's not including the young black men who look at you the way a lion looks at a gazzelle. So we all have adversity, and definitely not as much as others, so whining about it just looks....whiny. But, I could be wrong.


*walks out of the room and shuts the door*'

Whether I agree w/ him or not, I'm not engaging in that.

[Brian M.]

We're mere days from Superman Returns!

Cay

I thought he was at the Gay Pride parades?

[Zombienorthstar]

I've got no problem with anybody ...until they draw attention to themselves. I don't know why, but something in my character just gets a bad taste in mouth when people attempt to draw attention to themselves. I dislike the whole Hollywood culture, and when groups of any political/social subculture make a point of saying we have overcome I can't help but think..."Overcome what?!" Laws in America are preferential to minority groups right now, and I don't see much overt discrimination... except that it is socially acceptable to discriminate against lower class whites. Every minority picks on "rednecks" and NASCAR. I mean I don't really care what anyone in America says is sooooo hard. We are not having hard times here, not blacks, gays, latinos, whites, and saying look at me, look at me, I am being discriminated against seems like whining to me. We aren't in Iraq, Sierra Leone, or the Sudan. Even countries that are supposed to be first world have massive areas with huge unemployment and crazy violence. How are WE soooo oppressed over here? Do some people get the short end of the stick because of what they are? Yes. What's my answer to that. Adapt and overcome. Some asshole won't hire gays, look for work elsewhere. I am sure there are plenty of homosexual friendly workplaces. Somehow I doubt I could get hired to work at a hip hop night club or even a gay night club... I don't think of that as a problem that the Supreme Court MUST address. I just feel that we all face some adversity in our lives, but not as much adversity as Iraqi school children, and if they can do what they have to as CHILDREN we should be able to get by with a HUGE THANKFUL SMILE. Maybe I am wrong, but the Civil Rights Movements of the 60's are history, and there is currently nothing analogous with what was happening to blacks in the South. Simply stated while gays may face some discrimination, they are not waking up to gays hanging from nooses with tacit goverment support. Hell, I'm a white dude in Fort Lauderdale and I face some discrimination. Trust me you do not want to be white on Sistrunk Blvd after the sun goes down. The cops will pull you over so quick, because you must be a carck head to be there. And that's not including the young black men who look at you the way a lion looks at a gazzelle. So we all have adversity, and definitely not as much as others, so whining about it just looks....whiny. But, I could be wrong.

I cant talk as an ethnic minority or as an American so bear with me.

By 'overcome' at least in the gay community i think its overcomign the culture that the majority still hold that being gay is a shameful thing. Being gay and 14 is still one of the hardest things ive had to do as your:
a) in an institution that doesnt agknowledge your exsistence let alone your needs or rights.
b) you are amongst other people who are still fairly insecure and unsure of themselves and therefore will latch on to anything to give them the sense that they are the 'normal', 'right' one.
c) for the most part you have to carry this on your own...fearing the reaction of those close to you like friends or family.
d) probably still experiencing some self hatred due to the ammount of low level homophobia which is still floating around in society.

Once you get out of that dark place and become comfortable with yourself you can get your life back...but about 98% of gay people have to go through that for at least a short period of time.

[Cayman]

Even in a good society, we should still always be striving to make things better. No society is ever without flaws or things that can be improved. We shouldn't become complacent because we're in better shape than another part of the world. To do so is to stagnate.

Cay

[Cayman]

I thought he was at the Gay Pride parades?

Well, he has to return from somewhere.

And who can blame him for wanting to see Taylor Dayne?

http://www.taylordayne.com/photos/td35.jpg

Cay

[Novaya Havoc]

There were a billion kids at the Seattle one yesterday.

Damn it.

Cay

That just made me laugh out loud at work. ;)

A gay owned business (cafe) here in Chicago has a sign in its window saying they like children, but to please be mindful, keep them under control, and have them use their indoor voices.

It drew so much controversy with parents and such. But I say: kudos. This may make me sound, like 82, but kids these days are out of control.

[Zombienorthstar]

That just made me laugh out loud at work. ;)

A gay owned business (cafe) here in Chicago has a sign in its window saying they like children, but to please be mindful, keep them under control, and have them use their indoor voices.

It drew so much controversy with parents and such. But I say: kudos. This may make me sound, like 82, but kids these days are out of control.


Lol i love the fact it caused controversey....what so if the parents were sitting in Starbucks they'd like someones kid shouting and running around of course not...this is social ettiquette not the gay community attacking children :D

[Cayman]

That just made me laugh out loud at work. ;)

A gay owned business (cafe) here in Chicago has a sign in its window saying they like children, but to please be mindful, keep them under control, and have them use their indoor voices.

It drew so much controversy with parents and such. But I say: kudos. This may make me sound, like 82, but kids these days are out of control.

There were two Prides here competing. They used to have Pride at this park in the area where I live and the Parade, but this year the Pride committee moved it to Seattle center. That caused some furor because this part of town is Seattle's heavily gay area so they did an offshoot one called Queerfest. Thus Seattle gets two parades. Yay, us!

Cay

[rilokyle]

I cant talk as an ethnic minority or as an American so bear with me.

By 'overcome' at least in the gay community i think its overcomign the culture that the majority still hold that being gay is a shameful thing. Being gay and 14 is still one of the hardest things ive had to do as your:
a) in an institution that doesnt agknowledge your exsistence let alone your needs or rights.
b) you are amongst other people who are still fairly insecure and unsure of themselves and therefore will latch on to anything to give them the sense that they are the 'normal', 'right' one.
c) for the most part you have to carry this on your own...fearing the reaction of those close to you like friends or family.
d) probably still experiencing some self hatred due to the ammount of low level homophobia which is still floating around in society.

Once you get out of that dark place and become comfortable with yourself you can get your life back...but about 98% of gay people have to go through that for at least a short period of time.
Agreed. Well said. Being in the closest is one of the hardest things I've been through, and I was in there for a long time. You are all alone because you don't have anyone you can talk to, because you fear their reaction and you don't know any better. But eventually, you realize who you are and who you can trust. I go to a college in gay-friendly Boston, where half the guys are gay, so once I felt like I wasn't alone and that I would be accepted I came out. Of course, everyone was like, "Uhhh yeah we already guessed that." :)

[Cayman]

Disclaimer: Taylor Dayne was actually only at 3 Gay Pride events this month, not at every single one.

But she was at Gay Disney!

http://static.flickr.com/28/46981270_85fd373aae_m.jpg

Cay

[Mariah]

Disclaimer: Taylor Dayne was actually only at 3 Gay Pride events this month, not at every single one.

But she was at Gay Disney!

http://static.flickr.com/28/46981270_85fd373aae_m.jpg

Cay
lol, you are so funny Cay. Tell it to my heart, tell me I'm the only one, is this real or just a game. Whatever happened to Taylor Dayne anyway?

[Brian M.]

Well, he has to return from somewhere.

And who can blame him for wanting to see Taylor Dayne?

http://www.taylordayne.com/photos/td35.jpg

Cay


I don't know who that is but...that use to be a dude didn't it?

[Cayman]

lol, you are so funny Cay. Tell it to my heart, tell me I'm the only one, is this real or just a game. Whatever happened to Taylor Dayne anyway?

I dunno, she kinda dropped out of the limelight really quickly after her 3rd album. Perhaps grunge killed off Taylor Dayne.

Cay

[Zombienorthstar]

Agreed. Well said. Being in the closest is one of the hardest things I've been through, and I was in there for a long time. You are all alone because you don't have anyone you can talk to, because you fear their reaction and you don't know any better. But eventually, you realize who you are and who you can trust. I go to a college in gay-friendly Boston, where half the guys are gay, so once I felt like I wasn't alone and that I would be accepted I came out. Of course, everyone was like, "Uhhh yeah we already guessed that." :)


Sometimes its all about self confidence...i mean my aunts a lesbian so i knew my mum should be fine with it...but still...i wasnt confident in myself....i still to a certain extent hated and was ashamed of myself...so it mine was a journey to a point where i accepted myself...usually when you get to that point you dont care what other people think. You've got you back after years of self doubt. And thats the most powerful feeling.

and for your pleasure 'The Singing Butler' By Jack Vetriano
http://dcartnews.blogspot.com/singingbutler.jpg

[Mariah]

I don't know who that is but...that use to be a dude didn't it?
NOOOOO!! lol. That's Taylor Dayne. She was the white girl who came out around the same time as Debbie Gibson and Tiffany. She's the white girl who sounds like a sista. Think of her as the model for Anastacia.

[Cayman]

Sometimes its all about self confidence...i mean my aunts a lesbian so i knew my mum should be fine with it...but still...i wasnt confident in myself....i still to a certain extent hated and was ashamed of myself...so it mine was a journey to a point where i accepted myself...usually when you get to that point you dont care what other people think. You've got you back after years of self doubt. And thats the most powerful feeling.

and for your pleasure 'The Singing Butler' By Jack Vetriano
http://dcartnews.blogspot.com/singingbutler.jpg

Say, that did please me.

Cay

[Mariah]

I dunno, she kinda dropped out of the limelight really quickly after her 3rd album. Perhaps grunge killed off Taylor Dayne.

Cay
Poor girl, she has a voice.

[Brian M.]

I'm gonna go lay back down. I'm tired. The Braves are on so I'm gonna nap while I watch them.

[Cayman]

'Twas the "singer" from Black Box who used to be a guy

http://www.bbc.co.uk/totp2/features/wallpaper/images/1024/black_box.jpg

Cay

[Mariah]

'Twas the "singer" from Black Box who used to be a guy



Cay
Really??? I never knew that. Huh.

[Cayman]

Eep! That was larger than I expected.

Cay

[Zombienorthstar]

Say, that did please me.

Cay

Jack Vetriano is my favourite...more? oh okay

http://ideiasemdesalinho.blogs.sapo.pt/arquivo/Night%20geometry_Jack%20Vettriano_AllPosters%20com .jpg

http://www.alphapix.com/Images/vettrianodancemelarge.jpg

http://jack-vettriano-art-prints.toffsworld.com/images/silkgame.jpg

http://www.posterunlimited.com/imagebase/ARG/jpgs/21102.jpg

[Cayman]

Hey, he stole the top one from the first Joe Casey Uncanny X-Men cover!

Cay

[Zombienorthstar]

Hey, he stole the top one from the first Joe Casey Uncanny X-Men cover!

Cay


the top one is incredibly sexy....

[scott_torino]

And Zombie Northstar tht all seems like very personal stuff... thank you for sharing. I was a little worried that i would be labeled "hatemonger" for that last post. Cayman I agree with your stagnation comment. But, here in America we have evolved oout of necessity into a very tolerant society. Perhaps, too tolerant in some spheres. But are we going to convince EVERYONE to act nice. I don't think so. It's unfortunate but I just don't see a time when every will "just get along". So the world has got some assholes I just think people should deal with it. (This does not refer to the passage of rite Zombie Northstar referred to) But in an adult's life he is going to come across people who for some reason will not like him/her for any number of reasons or prejudices. Women face prejudices every day, and I don't see anymore Suffrage parades. I personally don't get along with religious zealots, and PETA activists, and I consider myself a pretty good guy. So I guess I am trying to say sometimes I am apathetic to a LOT of causes because I think we should all try to get thicker skins. I remember being told a lot when I was a kid "Don't worry about what other people think." And I don't. I just try to be a good person, and keep on going.

Oh and just to let you all in on a story of mine. When I left the Corps I flew back to Miami. I tried to get a beer at a local bar. I ordered in Spanish (when in Rome....) and was denied service. I showed 2 forms of ID, and was still asked to leave. I hadn't done anything to offend these people... I was just white. Before leaving I told them I couldn't believe they were refusing me service after I just spent 4 years defending the freedom they floated over here for. What I didn't do was label the entire Cuban-American population as white haters and organize a rally. I never got my beer that night, but I never went back to that bar either.

[Cayman]

Off to watch one of our two, count 'em, two parades. It's what both Superman and Taylor Dayne would want me to do.


Later all.

Cay

[Novaya Havoc]

I've got no problem with anybody ...until they draw attention to themselves. I don't know why, but something in my character just gets a bad taste in mouth when people attempt to draw attention to themselves. I dislike the whole Hollywood culture, and when groups of any political/social subculture make a point of saying we have overcome I can't help but think..."Overcome what?!" Laws in America are preferential to minority groups right now, and I don't see much overt discrimination... except that it is socially acceptable to discriminate against lower class whites.

Lick my left nut. What this says to me is "I am affiliated with lower-class whites; therefore, I am offended." Same argument... different perspective. This type of battle happens a lot: whether its racial minorities who condemn gays as not suffering as they have, or young college-aged men saying women receive preferential treatment in employment, or any other perspective-dependent opinion, it's the same. old. horse.

If you honestly do not see how gays are discriminated against in this country, I daresay you need more gay friends and/or read a newspaper. If you can honestly say that there is no passive racism, I dare you to go out with a group of black men to a mid-scale restaurant, and see how you're serviced. Walk a mile in someone else's shoes, and THEN come back and talk to me like you're an authority on anything aside from your own niche.

Every minority picks on "rednecks" and NASCAR. I mean I don't really care what anyone in America says is sooooo hard. We are not having hard times here, not blacks, gays, latinos, whites, and saying look at me, look at me, I am being discriminated against seems like whining to me. We aren't in Iraq, Sierra Leone, or the Sudan.

Paper tiger argument. No, we are not in the Sudan. But, at the same time, when a country like South Africa can enshrine protections for gays and lesbians into their constitution -- while we talk about placing prohibitions on them in ours -- I fail to see the relevancy of that point.

And of course you don't see blacks, gays, or latinos facing hardships if you're not looking at it from their social perspective. And if you're going to equate those groups as not having "hard times," but victimize fans of NASCAR as facing the worst ridicule of all, I really think you need to re-evaluate your definition of adversity. Or just STFU. Pick your poison, though the former would be far more becoming.

Even countries that are supposed to be first world have massive areas with huge unemployment and crazy violence. How are WE soooo oppressed over here? Do some people get the short end of the stick because of what they are? Yes. What's my answer to that. Adapt and overcome. Some asshole won't hire gays, look for work elsewhere.

Oh, give me a BREAK. That is the point of a constitution and Bill of Rights. Equal under the law. Pay taxes, contribute to society, and likewise the society should treat you equally. The only person talking about "opression" is you -- a sensationalist troll who obviously has not thought these social issues through aside from possibly a few pop editorials and jingoistic bull.

I am sure there are plenty of homosexual friendly workplaces.

Again, demonstrating that you don't have any knowledge of the culture or community at all.

Somehow I doubt I could get hired to work at a hip hop night club or even a gay night club... I don't think of that as a problem that the Supreme Court MUST address.

Well, set the bar low enough for yourself, and then everyone else will follow. Personally, I would rather set the bar HIGHER for everyone, but, you know -- I'm an inclusive optimist. C'est la vie.

And for the record: I know quite a few straight guys (and especially women) who work at gay-owned businesses or bartend at gay nightclubs. Oops.

I just feel that we all face some adversity in our lives, but not as much adversity as Iraqi school children, and if they can do what they have to as CHILDREN we should be able to get by with a HUGE THANKFUL SMILE.

Well, that's nice. We're pulling better than a 3rd world country. Keep setting that bar lower, brother.

Maybe I am wrong, but the Civil Rights Movements of the 60's are history, and there is currently nothing analogous with what was happening to blacks in the South. Simply stated while gays may face some discrimination, they are not waking up to gays hanging from nooses with tacit goverment support.

Again with the relativist argument. No. They're beaten and murdered, intimidated, attacked, mugged, disowned, fired, teased, ridiculed, and shunned. Not everyone (I wasn't), but a good deal are. Last I remember, black families didn't cut off their children for being black. Seems like we still have a way to go.

Hell, I'm a white dude in Fort Lauderdale and I face some discrimination. Trust me you do not want to be white on Sistrunk Blvd after the sun goes down. The cops will pull you over so quick, because you must be a carck head to be there. And that's not including the young black men who look at you the way a lion looks at a gazzelle. So we all have adversity, and definitely not as much as others, so whining about it just looks....whiny. But, I could be wrong.

Ah. So now we see the true colors. A white guy, in the south, who feels he is discriminated against. And he's tired of those "uppity blacks/gays/women/latinos" from whining because -- heaven forbid! -- he has to suffer such trauma as a person who knows NASCAR fans and gets pulled over because he's in a high-traffic area for drugs.

Never mind that last time I rode a cab with my black friends, the abbie drove away with one guy in the car, saying "his kind never pays," and after he had to jump from the moving cab, was harrassed by the cabbie with shouts of "Ha! I made you WALK, n*****. I made you WALK!"

And the cabbie was Pakistani.

Yeah. My heart bleeds for you. Go crawl back in your skankhole, assnut.

[Zombienorthstar]

My main concern as far as gay teens goes...ist that schools dont recognise them and with most things in school if the administration isnt FORCED to deal with something it rarely does. My school has anti-racist policies. All very good. But they did that because 64% of my school belongs to an ethnic minority. If gay youngsters arent visible or represented then schools dont provide for them. Which means low level homophobia such as 'queer' and 'fag' is allowed to slide by teachers as its not provided for in the school charter. You can be expelled for saying the n-word under your breathe...but you cant even be given detention for screaming 'faggot' in someones face.

This may all seem trivial until we consider that the highest suicide rate is amongst gay teenage men.

[Brian M.]

Well I'm a sucker for fine Cuban cigars
The problem is I can't afford 'em
But last year I went and got myself a whole box
And just to be safe I insured 'em

I took out a policy against fire and theft
And then I hurried home
With a thirty-cent lighter I sat on my back steps
And I smoked 'em one by one

Two weeks later I went to see that insurance man
And I handed in my claim
With a straight face I told him that through a series of small fires
They'd all gone up in flames

They reviewed my case and they had no choice
But to pay me for what I'd done
And I took that check and bought a whole new box
And I smoked 'em one by one

Two weeks later this detective shows up
Tells me that company's pressin' charges
One speedy trial later they locked me up
On twenty-four separate counts of arson

And now I sit and I stare at a blank brick wall
Lookin' back on what I've done
To pass the time I've got some ten-cent cigars
And I smoke 'em one by one
Yeah, I smoke 'em one by one

[The Fury]

My spoiler-sense is tingling.

[Uncle Nobs]

heres some good quotes to inspire you guys. Comments?:


"If I had only known, I would have been a locksmith."- Einstein
Me likey, but I'm not sayin' which ones I like. It's too personal.

I thought Einstein thing was about being a watchmaker, not a locksmith. :confused:

WANT MORE QUOTES!! :D

[Brian M.]

We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done.

-Henry Wadsworth Longfellow (1807-1882)

"I always prefer to believe the best of everybody; it saves so much trouble."
-Rudyard Kipling

[Jack Flash]

Jake I love your snake!

[Uncle Nobs]

Yea, please, don't ever lift that ban. Make that one permanent. I'll stick to the Marvel Board and be just fine.
Is this a political rage thing?

[Brian M.]

Is this a political rage thing?

Yea. Pretty much.

I met a kid from Pakistan last night and had a cool conversation w/ him. He pretty much disagreed w/ me on everything but we were able to have a good conversation never the less. It's when people try and force their reasoning on you that I get pissed about.

[Brian M.]

The moment we begin to fear the opinions of others and hesitate to tell the truth that is in us, and from motives of policy are silent when we should speak, the divine floods of light and life no longer flow into our souls.
- Elizabeth Cady Stanton

Tell me and I forget; show me and I remember; involve me and I understand.
- unknown

Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power.
- unknown

To reach a port we must sail, sometimes with the wind and sometimes against it. But we must not drift or lie at anchor.
- Oliver Wendell Holmes

The toughest part of getting to the top of the ladder, is getting through the crowd at the bottom.
- unknown

Elections belong to the people. It is their decision. If they decide to turn their back on the fire and burn their behinds, then they will just have to sit on their blisters.
- Abraham Lincoln

There Nobs, some more for you.

[Mikl C]

I've somehow managed to combine a hangover and food poisoning into the most unpleasant day of my life. And I have 2 exams tomorrow.

[Zombienorthstar]

Im gonna give a load of Oscar Wilde quotes...cause they are my favourite:

"The aim of life is self-development. To realize one's nature perfectly - that is what each of us is here for."

"Selfishness is not living as one wishes to live, it is asking others to live as one wishes to live."

"Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth"


The middle one is my favourite.

[Zombienorthstar]

I've somehow managed to combine a hangover and food poisoning into the most unpleasant day of my life. And I have 2 exams tomorrow.


Ive got English Literature: The Gothic Tradition tomorrow morning. Oy!

[Mikl C]

Last test? Come party with me :) I'll try not to vomit in your shoes.

[Zombienorthstar]

Last test? Come party with me :) I'll try not to vomit in your shoes.

Yep its me last one! Roll on tomorrow...i could come to ireland and party...darker phoenix i thought i was sure but your avatar confuses me...are you gay?



More quotes:

"I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent. " Gandhi

"I'm glad I didn't have to fight in any war. I'm glad I didn't have to pick up a gun. I'm glad I didn't get killed or kill somebody. I hope my kids enjoy the same lack of manhood. " Tom Hanks


"I wanted you to see what real courage is, instead of getting the idea that courage is a man with a gun in his hand. It's when you know you're licked before you begin but you begin anyway and you see it through no matter what. " Atticus Finch 'To Kill a Mockingbird' by Harper Lee

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. This is not a way of life at all in any true sense. Under the cloud of threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron" Dwight D Eisenhower

[Mikl C]

Yep its me last one! Roll on tomorrow...i could come to ireland and party...darker phoenix i thought i was sure but your avatar confuses me...are you gay?




I'm not particularly happy right now, no. :cool:

[Zombienorthstar]

I'm not particularly happy right now, no. :cool:


An enigma wrapped in a conundrum rolling in ambiguous filth arent you?

I was ill the other day...


...



...


...

i got better.

[Mikl C]

I'm bisexual. Any hole's a goal and the like. ;)

[Uncle Nobs]

Yea. Pretty much.

I met a kid from Pakistan last night and had a cool conversation w/ him. He pretty much disagreed w/ me on everything but we were able to have a good conversation never the less. It's when people try and force their reasoning on you that I get pissed about.
I would love to see you control your anger when you're confronted by morons who just don't know how to express themselves. You're a bright, articulate guy who actually enjoys talking politics. I hate to see you shut down and stop listening to the content of an argument as soon as someone acts like a jackass.

I don't mean to sound like your dad or anything here. I just see potential that's going unused.

[Zombienorthstar]

I'm bisexual. Any hole's a goal and the like. ;)


ROFLOL


Always good....I wish i was bisexual...seems so much easier...but i cant help but like the mens...lol

I cant even see seriously hot girls in a sexual way.

http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j183/Zombienorthstar/100_6638.jpg

Me (the headboy) and my friend (the head girl)

[Mikl C]

Head as in.... :| ?

[Zombienorthstar]

Head as in.... :| ?


As in appointed by the head teacher to represent the students at all school politics style stuff.

I'm not sure if my teacher appreciated the irony of a gay guy being called 'head boy'...i know my friends sure couldnt live it down.

[Mikl C]

I appreciated the irony! I was too badass to be head boy, plus there was the incident in the girls toilets... *shuts up*

[Zombienorthstar]

I appreciated the irony! I was too badass to be head boy, plus there was the incident in the girls toilets... *shuts up*


Well i was always so goody goody that despite not being the highest achiever in my year i got headboy.

They regretted it. They assumed cause i was good id do as i was told. But instead i got quite idealistic and actually- get this- tried to change things for the better!!! It was actually quite good for me...because the head girl was an even more goody goody person than i was that i got a reputation as being the slightly rebellious one...lol....

The gay thing helped as well...like will and grace says with gay sex 'the kinks built in'

[Zombienorthstar]

*sigh* i love school politics...

I never used to like screwing authority over until i got taller...coincedence?

[Zombienorthstar]

double post.

[Brian M.]

I would love to see you control your anger when you're confronted by morons who just don't know how to express themselves. You're a bright, articulate guy who actually enjoys talking politics. I hate to see you shut down and stop listening to the content of an argument as soon as someone acts like a jackass.

I don't mean to sound like your dad or anything here. I just see potential that's going unused.

What got me was that they would sit there and toss out links and cite stuff and just completely shut out anything that I would say. A lot of them didn't act like they had actually put thought into what was being cited, they looked for something to say they were right and used it as the Bible and we all know the Bible could never say something that's wrong. The whole thread about the article on WMD's found in Iraq was a big detractor for me. They really wanted to say that it was ok for Saddam to just forget he had the WMD's hidden but it's wrong for Bush to be wrong about Intel.

Another thing that got to me was a duchebag who came in there and said something along the lines, "Doesn't Compassionate Conservative really mean that you just don't wear the hood and sheets anymore?". This wasn't a poster who had 1000- posts, the guy had more then me. Great thing about it too, I didn't read any posts on anyone correcting him. It's that kind of ignorance that I can't stand.

The kid from last night. Omer, was cool. He was telling me why he didn't like Bush and he was asking me all kinds of questions. I tried to understand how he came to his point of view and he tried to do the same for me, it was fun, I mean I was a lil drunk and it was before we all went to the bars but it was still cool. I do enjoy talking politics, I like wondering how someone came to their point of veiw, I like to try and share mine w/o trying to persaude them into my way of thinking. It's weird but it's fun.

[Mikl C]

School politics? The biggest problem we had was with people consistently microwaving the kettle. What type of politics you mean?

[Uncle Nobs]

What got me was that they would sit there and toss out links and cite stuff and just completely shut out anything that I would say. A lot of them didn't act like they had actually put thought into what was being cited, they looked for something to say they were right and used it as the Bible and we all know the Bible could never say something that's wrong. The whole thread about the article on WMD's found in Iraq was a big detractor for me. They really wanted to say that it was ok for Saddam to just forget he had the WMD's hidden but it's wrong for Bush to be wrong about Intel.

Another thing that got to me was a duchebag who came in there and said something along the lines, "Doesn't Compassionate Conservative really mean that you just don't wear the hood and sheets anymore?". This wasn't a poster who had 1000- posts, the guy had more then me. Great thing about it too, I didn't read any posts on anyone correcting him. It's that kind of ignorance that I can't stand.

The kid from last night. Omer, was cool. He was telling me why he didn't like Bush and he was asking me all kinds of questions. I tried to understand how he came to his point of view and he tried to do the same for me, it was fun, I mean I was a lil drunk and it was before we all went to the bars but it was still cool. I do enjoy talking politics, I like wondering how someone came to their point of veiw, I like to try and share mine w/o trying to persaude them into my way of thinking. It's weird but it's fun.
That's what I pick up on with you. You actually dig it, as long as people keep it real.

But you must know that blowing up at their fallacies and snide remarks doesn't help you get your point across, right? In fact, it just reinforces their negative perception of conservatives in general.

[mattbib]

What a long weekend. The DMB/O.A.R. show Friday night was a lot of fun. Afterward we did a little drinking but it rained and we all ended up going to bed early. Our campsite was right next to a railroad, so yeah, not the greatest situation but still okay.

Saturday we went to Hershey Park itself and did all the rides and stuff. I'd never been there but definitely enjoyed it. Some really fun coasters. Afterward we went back to camp, dried some wet clothes, got pizza for dinner, and then drank. Well past the "quiet" hour of 11PM. I think I went to sleep around 3:30 AM. This morning was hard...it was raining and I was tired but we went to breakfast and then drove home. And here I am. I think I'm going to sit on the couch and watch TV for the rest of the day. And new Entourage tonight!

[Jack Flash]

me and the boys are going to the pool!! wah-Hoo!

[Zombienorthstar]

School politics? The biggest problem we had was with people consistently microwaving the kettle. What type of politics you mean?

Well its more school politics...they mainly wantd me as a figurehead but i keep forcing my opinionn in...examples

the last three meetings i had

1) On the 'vision' for the new school buildings
2) On anti-prejudice push (where i expressed my opinion that it was insufficent as they were only targeting racism and not other types eg. sexism and homophobia)
3) On a fundraising day for cancer research.

[Mikl C]

Ooh getchu :D What do y'all think of my new phoenix-slutty avatar?

[Zombienorthstar]

Love it^^^




Guys the weirdest thing is happening on my 'Famous Quotes' section of the Community Forum..me and another poster seemed to have started an arguement about whether guns are good or bad...but neither of us have actually verbalised it yet...just gone back with various quotes...its the weirdest thing ever...go take a look.

[Zombienorthstar]

Or am i just imagining it?

[Finn]

Yeah I think you are imagining it, I really dont see it:confused:

[Cayman]

I've returned!

Disappointment is when the gay firefighters pass by in the parade...and they are all lesbians. :(

Cay

[Zombienorthstar]

I've returned!

Disappointment is when the gay firefighters pass by in the parade...and they are all lesbians. :(

Cay


Thanks Finn,

It's always dissapointing when someone either turns out to be a woman or turns out to fancy women...either way i get nothing:D

[Novaya Havoc]

I hate when people PM me a bunch of bullshit.

[Cayman]

I hate when people PM me a bunch of bullshit.

Who was the offender?

Cay

[Novaya Havoc]

Who was the offender?

Cay

Scott Torino. Apparently, if I cannot find work where I live in a gay-friendly environment, I can move to Fort Lauderdale and work for Disney or Carnival Cruises.

... Because, you know, if you're gay, you should have to move across the damn country to find an accepting work environment. Touche. :rolleyes:

[Zombienorthstar]

Scott Torino. Apparently, if I cannot find work where I live in a gay-friendly environment, I can move to Fort Lauderdale and work for Disney or Carnival Cruises.

... Because, you know, if you're gay, you should have to move across the damn country to find an accepting work environment. Touche. :rolleyes:


I did find his 'if people dont accept you jsut leave' approach quite insensitive. As if we should all work in gay bars just so not to offend the straight workers...i work in a coffee house with a VERY homophobic manager...why should her ignorance cause me the problem of having to find another job, beign out of work etc...

[Brian M.]

That's what I pick up on with you. You actually dig it, as long as people keep it real.

But you must know that blowing up at their fallacies and snide remarks doesn't help you get your point across, right? In fact, it just reinforces their negative perception of conservatives in general.

Yea your 100% right on that. I gotta keep my cool at all times.

[Novaya Havoc]

I did find his 'if people dont accept you jsut leave' approach quite insensitive. As if we should all work in gay bars just so not to offend the straight workers...i work in a coffee house with a VERY homophobic manager...why should her ignorance cause me the problem of having to find another job, beign out of work etc...

Yes. As a gay man, I have SO MANY career options!!:

1. Gay bar
2. Prostitute
3. Florist
4. Hairdresser
5. Stylist
6. Retail
7. Live performing drag queen
8. Barista
9. Sex columnist
10. Waiter (at select locations)
11. Flight attendant
12. Professor of gender/queer studies

With so many choices, how could I possibly ask for anything more?! :D :D :D

[Uncle Nobs]

Yeah I think you are imagining it, I really dont see it:confused:
Then you're not looking. It's pretty obvious.

[Zombienorthstar]

Yes. As a gay man, I have SO MANY career options!!:

1. Gay bar
2. Prostitute
3. Florist
4. Hairdresser
5. Stylist
6. Retail
7. Live performing drag queen
8. Barista
9. Sex columnist
10. Waiter (at select locations)
11. Flight attendant
12. Professor of gender/queer studies

With so many choices, how could I possibly ask for anything more?! :D :D :D


Its funny when i came out to my dad he asked if i wanted to be a florist and that hed support me.

I laughed and told him no. I'm an english literature student! LOL

I dont like the suggestion that i've got to 'keep out of the way' otherwise im just asking for trouble. What next? Seperate sections on the bus?

[Zombienorthstar]

Then you're not looking. It's pretty obvious.


Thanks for the vote of confidence Nobs...that guy shoots me down in every post because in our intial meeting i said i thought guns were unnecessary and caused more harm than they did good.

He now pretty much attacks me for being to liberal everytime i post over there

[Novaya Havoc]

http://images.cafepress.com/product/10005615_240x240_F.jpg

[Dizzy D]

Bon soir, mes amis du X-cres (de la?).

So anything happening today?

[Uncle Nobs]

http://images.cafepress.com/product/10005615_240x240_F.jpg
As a white man partial to wearing stars-n-stripes suits and slapping faggots silent, I find that offensive! :mad:

[Uncle Nobs]

Bon soir, mes amis du X-cres (de la?).

So anything happening today?
We're bashing 'mos. Grab a bat. Then pretend it didn't happen in Amerika.

[Dizzy D]

We're bashing 'mos. Grab a bat. Then pretend it didn't happen in Amerika.

Eh, I'm dutch. We put them on trains to the East in 40-45, but we have given them Amsterdam in return.

[Novaya Havoc]

As a white man partial to wearing stars-n-stripes suits and slapping faggots silent, I find that offensive! :mad:

;) I love you again, Nobs. Not that I didn't before, but I wanted to reaffirm it.

[Uncle Nobs]

;) I love you again, Nobs. Not that I didn't before, but I wanted to reaffirm it.
Keep it straight, gaywad. Mwah! Mwah! Kissies!!!

[Jake V]

I have awaken, X-Cres.

What will you do to entertain me?

[Brian M.]

I have awaken, X-Cres.

What will you do to entertain me?

I'm sure I can think of something.

I've got a rabbit, a pool stick, some poker chips and a volleyball.

[Novaya Havoc]

Jaaaake V!!!!!

[Jake V]

I'm sure I can think of something.

I've got a rabbit, a pool stick, some poker chips and a volleyball.
we'll save the rabbit for later.

and the pool stick.

[Dizzy D]

I'm sure I can think of something.

I've got a rabbit, a pool stick, some poker chips and a volleyball.

Together, they are the ingredients for the eight deadly sin.

Wait, do you have a soundproof motel room?

[Brian M.]

Together, they are the ingredients for the eight deadly sin.

Wait, do you have a soundproof motel room?

No but I have cotton balls, we can just soundproof everyone else.

[Uncle Nobs]

No but I have cotton balls, we can just soundproof everyone else.
Dude... You just said you have cotton balls.

[Jake V]

If anything, we'll need to soundproof the rabbit.

[scott_torino]

I have better things to do than fight over the internet with a person who is angry with the world because somebody doesn't like him. When I didn't like my job (or the people at it) I quit. Some advice, if you aren't happy... find something that makes you happy. Everything I said was attempting to make analogies and or examples to prove a point. I didn't want a scrap, I like this board and don't want any problems with anyone, but of course here comes "suck my left nut" N. Havoc. Well dude, I am sorry not EVERYONE likes you, not everyone likes me... and I don't cry about it. I will say one more thing... perhaps you are not as tolerant as you would like me to be.

Have a nice day.