Every comic issue made should be like Civil War?

[Effect]

The more and more I read issues #1 and #2 of Civil War the more and more I feel this is the type of quality at least pacing we should get in every single comic title issue. I've never felt an issue or issues be so much worth the money I've payed for them until now. Everytime I've bought a comic, since I started collectiong issues recently of certain titles, I've always felt underwhelmed or let down. Not all the time but most of the time because the story never went anywhere or I never felt there was enough going on in an issue. The Civil War issues have action, drama, story and moves the story along at a nice place by showing several views and locations.

Why can't normal title issues move things along? Why is it that some issues there is a bunch of nothing with only two or three pages matter and the rest feels like fluff or filler to fill out an issue?

Is it the quality of the writer? Trying to push a story 4 or 5 issues when it really can be told in 2 or 3 meaning more arcs have to be done?

What do you think that makes Civil War so much better? And why can't other comics feel like this?

[Tony Starkz]

Millar is the man.Plain and simple.

[Drakenred]

um not exactly



We have Sue and Reed haveing that talk that they always seem to have just where Sue leaves Reed or takes a break from the F4 or becomes that Malice persona because Reed was not realy listening to her so she walks off with a kicked/ignored puppy look.

We have Tony just before it becomes Law with a "God I need a drink because I think I screwed up" Look (Serisouly what did you think that Mister Freaking Team player was going to do when push comes to Shove?)

We have Sheild doing the incompitent Thugs all over the place. (Seriously they were going to blow up a building just because someone tried to stop a mugging?) Then theirs the whole lame ass chat that explains what "42" might be Just before Cap goes into lets Rescue the kids mode.

then Peter unmaskes

Granted I know why they have to use the "Idiot plot" for why things work in comic books, but shesh.

[filthysize]

Because every book has its own appropriate pacing?

Because writing a mini-series is not the same as maintaining a monthly title?

I dunno. Take your pick, really.

[Fenrir767]

I've been digging Civil War so far and am anxiously awaiting it to see where everyone ends up afterwards.

[Miss Kitty Fantastico]

I like all kinds of stories, fast-paced and slow-and-thoughtful. But yeah, no question Civil War is moving like a mofo - the visceral thrill of reading it is terrific. It's very much a best of both worlds situation so far, the main Civil War title is rocketing along in best thriller-style, and the other tie-ins are filling in the details each in their own way.

[Iron Syndicate]

I can only fantasize about reading it in hard-cover... you'd probably blow through the whole thing in under 45 minutes... and it will be the best 45 minutes of your life...

Despite having the individual issues, I'm seriously thinking about getting the HC for reading later on...

[XPac]

I'm loving Civil War and I've always liked Millar's work... but that said, I only agree that everybook should be like Civil War from the context of saying every book should be GOOD.

As far as style and pace and delivery and tone... certain books require a completely different approach. I wouldn't want She-Hulk for example written like Civil War. Some comics need a faster pace to better accomodate a lighter tone or a more classical superhero beat'em up.

Still, imagine if all comics were written like Civil War. Archie comics would be fun.... Betty vs Veronica, whose side are you on?

[Haunt]

i wouldn't mind every comic being drawn by an army of Steve McNiven clones, if that's what you meant.

[Tony Starkz]

um not exactly



We have Sue and Reed haveing that talk that they always seem to have just where Sue leaves Reed or takes a break from the F4 or becomes that Malice persona because Reed was not realy listening to her so she walks off with a kicked/ignored puppy look.

We have Tony just before it becomes Law with a "God I need a drink because I think I screwed up" Look (Serisouly what did you think that Mister Freaking Team player was going to do when push comes to Shove?)

We have Sheild doing the incompitent Thugs all over the place. (Seriously they were going to blow up a building just because someone tried to stop a mugging?) Then theirs the whole lame ass chat that explains what "42" might be Just before Cap goes into lets Rescue the kids mode.

then Peter unmaskes

Granted I know why they have to use the "Idiot plot" for why things work in comic books, but shesh.

No really,Millar is the man.It's science.:D

[Cavalry Tanker]

Editing, pure and simple.

Monthly books are constrained by how far they can advance large scale plots. This is why I think Joe Q is a good editor in chief, he's moving things instead of sitting in the present. When he talks about "if we change somethig, is it going to help or hinder future plots and stories," is an excellent example of what a good editor in chief should be thinking.

Now I don't agree with all his decisions, like the rewritting of the Morrison run on New XMen, and I think he pokes around inside peoples titles a little too much, but he's really made Marvel Comics important. I mean, who would have guessed a major news paper spoiling a book four or even ten years ago?

As long as Joe Q makes changes which work, that are have an impact. Then I'm good with it. I'm tired of reading the same stories, same character every month when there is no real true development.

I remember when Kang conquered Earth in a big multi-part Avengers story line a few years ago. Anything come of it? Are people still remembered that day when they were invaded and subjucted. Nope, just another day.

[Siddon]

Yeah it is exciting to see a company which has invested so much into continuity of a brand throw it out the window and actually try and create a new comic world. After all Marvel comics was orginally an answer to the watered down DC crap comics of the 50's and 60's. This is the best idea Marvel has come up with since the brand extension of 2000 and it should feel rewarding as we have been building to it for the past 3 years.

[agrich]

I guess I'm curious as to what comics you've been reading.

Over the past few years I've been reading lots of Marvel comics as good as or better than Civil War. Daredevil, Astonishing X-men, Ultimates, Powers, X-Factor, and Ultimate Fantastic Four (although it's tailed off lately), are ones that spring to mind. And lately, Hulk.

Stop buying the bad comics you've been buying and check out the past 14 issues of Astonishing X-Men, the entire run of Ultimates, and Bendis' Daredevil. Then buy current issues of Hulk, X-Factor, and Brubaker's Daredevil. Most of Ultimate Fantastic Four, too.

There's a lot of good comics out there, but people keep buying a lot of lame, drawn out stuff like New Avengers and House of M - and I'm actually a Bendis fan, but these comics were/are weak - and they don't give other things a try.

Other comics can and do feel like this, you just have to look past the stuff your comic shop gets 100 copies of and forces on readers because "everyone's reading it" and you might be surprised by what you find.

[big_dippin]

I'm also really digging Civil War. So much that I'm starting to check out other Marvels titles that I probably wouldn't have otherwise. Hopefully, the story continues to unfold. I'm so drawn in so far.