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lboinyamouf4sho

08-01-2004, 03:17 AM

i read about this book and it sounds very good, have you guys read it?? is it really good or overrated?? what does it go for?? i don't need mint condition or anything. 1 more thing is, there a sequal, if so what is it called??

i'm not a dc guy so forgive my ignorance, please

Brian Cronin

08-01-2004, 03:25 AM

I believe it's JSA Liberty Files, right?

And it's pretty good.

The art is AWESOME.

The story is...a little less than awesome. :)

-Brian

lboinyamouf4sho

08-01-2004, 03:36 AM

I believe it's JSA Liberty Files, right?

And it's pretty good.

The art is AWESOME.

The story is...a little less than awesome. :)

-Brian

you're probly right, i read about it awhile back. i thought the story sounded good, do you know if there was a sequal??

Brian Cronin

08-01-2004, 03:39 AM

you're probly right, i read about it awhile back. i thought the story sounded good, do you know if there was a sequal??

There was, and lucky for you, BOTH stories are collected in a trade TOGETHER!

Here (http://tfaw.com/gn/profile.html?&sku=TFAW76194124113500111) is some info about the trade. :)

-Brian

PS...the sequel is a good deal worse....although the art is still awesome. :)

lboinyamouf4sho

08-01-2004, 04:03 AM

Brian Cronin

08-01-2004, 08:58 AM

thanx, care to eloborate on why you feel the story sucks?? i agree the art is great, but the story sounds like something i would like. do you just not care for this type of story or is it poorly written??

The sequel is built almost entirely around a twist.

And I don't think the twist is all that interesting/clever.

So that sorta colored my opinion of the sequel. :)

The original is written better, more like a standard World War historical fiction...only with superheroes!

-Brian

The Adventurer

08-01-2004, 09:53 AM

I found the entire thing to be one of the greatest Elseworld ever writen. The Sequal (The Unholy Three) was fraking AWESOME. Tony Harris's art is top of his game on both.

I HIGHTLY recomend the trade to all.

Tadhg Adams

08-01-2004, 10:38 AM

The original is written better, more like a standard World War historical fiction...only with superheroes!

Except if you examine the plot at all, it all falls apart. It's a cute little elseworlds and I like the designs and absolutely adore the art but the plots are crap and character moments are a bit cheesy, especially in the 2nd one. Sub-par story saved by incredible art.

And I think, the more into WWII history you are, the less you'll like it.

lboinyamouf4sho

08-02-2004, 12:19 AM

Except if you examine the plot at all, it all falls apart. It's a cute little elseworlds and I like the designs and absolutely adore the art but the plots are crap and character moments are a bit cheesy, especially in the 2nd one. Sub-par story saved by incredible art.

And I think, the more into WWII history you are, the less you'll like it.

sounds good to me, it is a comic not a history book after all. so would the trade be cheaper, or should i hunt down the 4 books at the next con??

Brian Cronin

08-02-2004, 12:21 AM

sounds good to me, it is a comic not a history book after all. so would the trade be cheaper, or should i hunt down the 4 books at the next con??

Definitely the trade.

The individual issues were VERY expensive at cover price (something like $7 a pop).

-Brian

lboinyamouf4sho

08-02-2004, 12:38 AM

Definitely the trade.

The individual issues were VERY expensive at cover price (something like $7 a pop).

-Brian

jesus!! is the trade old enough that i might find a used copy?(yes i am a cheap bastard)

Brian Cronin

08-02-2004, 12:51 AM

jesus!! is the trade old enough that i might find a used copy?(yes i am a cheap bastard)

I'm afraid it's fairly recent.

-Brian

cactusmaac

08-02-2004, 06:08 AM

Except if you examine the plot at all, it all falls apart. It's a cute little elseworlds and I like the designs and absolutely adore the art but the plots are crap and character moments are a bit cheesy, especially in the 2nd one. Sub-par story saved by incredible art.

And I think, the more into WWII history you are, the less you'll like it.

How so? I'm a WW2 buff and thought both stories were excellent. Rank up there with the best EWs.

meethraa

08-02-2004, 06:22 AM

The trade with both mini-series is probably my favorite DCU book these days.

Seriously, get it!

meethraa

08-02-2004, 06:36 AM

And I think, the more into WWII history you are, the less you'll like it.
What do you mean? We see how the existence of super-beings changed the dynamics of the war (the fact that it's a Elseworld might have had something to do with it), so they were clearly not going for historical accuracy.

lboinyamouf4sho

08-02-2004, 07:29 AM

The trade with both mini-series is probably my favorite DCU book these days.

Seriously, get it!

is there any xtras in the trade?, i really prefer to have the seperate issues for some reason call me old fashioned.

meethraa

08-02-2004, 07:36 AM

is there any xtras in the trade?, i really prefer to have the seperate issues for some reason call me old fashioned.
Not that I can think of. I mentioned the trade because that's what I own and I'm more of a trade person these days, but if the singles issues are what you want, go for it. I think it's well worth it.

EDIT: I just checked, and there are no extras.

lboinyamouf4sho

08-02-2004, 07:41 AM

Not that I can think of. I mentioned the trade because that's what I own and I'm more of a trade person these days, but if the singles issues are what you want, go for it. I think it's well worth it.

EDIT: I just checked, and there are no extras.

thanx, now that i know there are no xtras i will simply let price determine which i buy

Tadhg Adams

08-02-2004, 04:45 PM

What do you mean? We see how the existence of super-beings changed the dynamics of the war (the fact that it's a Elseworld might have had something to do with it), so they were clearly not going for historical accuracy.

Well Historical accuracy in the events is not to be expected, but in the setting, it should be better. I Remember there wern't any MAJOR things, but it still annoyed me. Not as much as the actual plots though. The plots are so illogical that they border on nonsensical.

meethraa

08-02-2004, 04:56 PM

Well Historical accuracy in the events is not to be expected, but in the setting, it should be better. I Remember there wern't any MAJOR things, but it still annoyed me. Not as much as the actual plots though. The plots are so illogical that they border on nonsensical.
I don't really know what you're talking about, so I can't respond. I just noticed that some things were obviously different because it was a different reality.

Paradox

08-02-2004, 09:17 PM

Tadhg Adams thought it was silly:
Not as much as the actual plots though. The plots are so illogical that they border on nonsensical.

Now you've got ME curious, as I don't have a clue as to what you're talking about. Can you elaborate? I didn't see any huge glaring lack of logic anywhere, but, I wasn't exactly looking for it, either.

lboinyamouf4sho

08-03-2004, 01:06 AM

thats it, i'm going to borders on my day off to find out for myself

Brian Cronin

08-03-2004, 01:08 AM

Is "elbow in your mouth, for sure" FROM something (a TV show or something) or is of your own devising?

-Brian

lboinyamouf4sho

08-03-2004, 01:28 AM

Brian Cronin

08-03-2004, 01:29 AM

its L (my 1st initial) bo(short for bones,elementry school nick name that stuck because i'm still skinny) inya mouf, and 4sho are just things i tend to say quite often. btw, thanx for all your input on this thread

Hehe...I like the history of screen names. :)

My screen name is after the great Irish cellist, Brian Cronin.

Or it's my actual name.

Whichever. ;)

-Brian

lboinyamouf4sho

08-03-2004, 01:32 AM

i won't be able to sleep until i know the truth!! whats a cellist?

Brian Cronin

08-03-2004, 01:35 AM

i won't be able to sleep until i know the truth!! whats a cellist?

Someone who plays the cello.

-Brian

Paradox

08-03-2004, 01:38 AM

Brian Cronin gets us all worked up:
My screen name is after the great Irish cellist, Brian Cronin.

Or it's my actual name.

Whichever. ;)

Damned tease! :)

lboinyamouf4sho

05-27-2005, 01:00 AM

finally read the 1st 2 books, i really enjoyed it, more so the art but i liked the story too. i was hoping for a better ending though, all in all it was worth it 4sho!! gotta checkout the sequel still

Mr. Jixx

05-28-2005, 04:59 AM

Harris and Jolley had talked about doing a prequel, with Clock, Bat, and Cat. But, with the seeming end of Elseworlds as a format, it seems like a dead subject, now.

lboinyamouf4sho

05-28-2005, 05:01 AM

Harris and Jolley had talked about doing a prequel, with Clock, Bat, and Cat. But, with the seeming end of Elseworlds as a format, it seems like a dead subject, now.

well that sux, i'd be interested to see the cat, don't know much about his regular dcu character but he looks cool to me

The Adventurer

05-28-2005, 06:49 AM

Sk8maven

05-28-2005, 06:55 AM

Actualy it was going to be about The Cat, The Clock, and The Owl. Since The Bat didn't join the Unholy Three until The Liberty Files. Which would/will be cool, as anything that doesn't thump us over the head with Batman and Superman is ace in my book.
That's why it'll never happen. DC doesn't take that kind of risk any more - EVERYthing has to have something to do with Batman, Superman, or both. :p

It'd be nice to see a Wonderwoman analog though (The Wonder perhaps?)
Oh, they'd probably just have killed her off, preferably gruesomely. :p

That's basically why I stopped being interested in Elseworlds - they became rote formula killfests centered on Supes and/or Bats. "Unholy Three" was particularly offensive because James Robinson in "The Golden Age" had taken the same basic idea, twisted it harder, come up with a more effective "Gotcha!", and written a better story - all WITHOUT explicitly referencing the Big Two. (But it was still a killfest and I emphatically detested that aspect of it.)

Maven

Mr. Jixx

05-28-2005, 10:40 AM

Whoops. The Owl. My bad.

SuperManny

05-29-2005, 07:29 PM

Harris and Jolley had talked about doing a prequel, with Clock, Bat, and Cat. But, with the seeming end of Elseworlds as a format, it seems like a dead subject, now.

Damn shame, at that. :(

Hopefully they'll get around to doing it under another format....maybe re-collect all 3 ? :D

One can wish!

K'Nort

05-30-2005, 09:47 AM

Harris and Jolley had talked about doing a prequel, with Clock, Bat, and Cat. But, with the seeming end of Elseworlds as a format, it seems like a dead subject, now.

Maybe now that there is a JSA Classified, they can do it as an arc there. Like they put ICBINTJL in JLA Classified.

The Shadow

05-30-2005, 10:18 AM

with the seeming end of Elseworlds as a format
WHAT? Who? WHEN??? Where? and most importantly... WHY???????

Was this announced or something because if so I TOTALLY missed it.

I LOVE the Elseworlds books... especially when done right like the Liberty Files or Golden Age.

Mr. Jixx

05-30-2005, 10:22 AM

I can't remember when and who I read that from. It was awhile back. I think it was when Another Nail came out. That was the reason The New Frontier didn't get the tag, even though it was obviously not in continuity.