Pretty cool, huh?

[Brian Cronin]

Our very own forum!

Howdy, CBR!

-Brian

[Arrjay]

Our very own forum!

Howdy, CBR!

-Brian

Awesome man.

Good one!!


Isn't it "Comics should be good" though?

Y'know. Pluralized.

:confused:

:D

[Jonah Weiland]

Awesome man.

Good one!!


Isn't it "Comics should be good" though?

Y'know. Pluralized.

:confused:

:D I have already been scolded by Mr. Cronin. I will never live it down.

[Brian Cronin]

Awesome man.

Good one!!


Isn't it "Comics should be good" though?

Y'know. Pluralized.

:confused:

:D

Which is what it says and has ALWAYS said.

Always.

Always.

No edit there.

No sir.

-Brian

[Super Sonic]

....ugh, and these forums continue to go downhill.





I kid, of course.

Congrats brian and good look with it. ^_^



P.S................where's my damn chat room?

[Brandon Hanvey]

He's taking over CBR. Someone must stop Brian before it's too late.


At least you are now using WordPress. I bet you like the post edit features, Brian.

[Pól Rua]

Awesome man.

Good one!!


Isn't it "Comics should be good" though?

Y'know. Pluralized.

:confused:

:D

Hey man, let's start small. You can't expect ALL comics to be good.
We're gonna do it ONE AT A TIME!
Oh YEAH!!!

Today, Infinite Crisis... next week, NFL Superpro!
Bet yer ass!

[Dizzy D]

And another forum absorbed by the Croninator. Unstoppable like... an... uhm.. unstoppable thing. It's 3 AM, metaphores went to bed hours ago.

Anyway cool that it moved. Too bad that all comments are still on the old blog. And now I have to link to the other three blogs that I usually used to access via CSBG.

[Ultraman Max]

So is the forum for commenting on posts, discussing possible urban legend suggestions and other topics, or a combo of both?


Edit: And yeah this is pretty cool actually.

.....
JR

[Brian Cronin]

And another forum absorbed by the Croninator. Unstoppable like... an... uhm.. unstoppable thing. It's 3 AM, metaphores went to bed hours ago.

Anyway cool that it moved. Too bad that all comments are still on the old blog. And now I have to link to the other three blogs that I usually used to access via CSBG.

It IS too bad that all the comments are on the old blog, but at least they ARE still there, ya know?

We're not deleting the old blog or anything.

And I'll eventually be adding to the blogroll (Wordpress requires a little more effort for their links, as I actually have to come up with short descriptions for each blog I link to), so you can still get to all the same blogs via Comics Should Be Good!

-Brian

[Gordon Smith]

Congrats, Brian. I may even start reading your site now, though I promise nothing in advance.

[Brian Cronin]

So is the forum for commenting on posts, discussing possible urban legend suggestions and other topics, or a combo of both?


.....
JR

A combo, but probably leaning more towards the latter.

In fact, I probably should create an "urban legend suggestion" thread.

-Brian

[Ronald Bryan]

My god, Cronin's head will never fit through doors now.

[Jake V]

Congrats. I've been waiting for CSBG to join the big leagues. It was always a bit too indy for me.

Are there rules to this forum?

[Sir Tim Drake]

I knew about this already, but I'm still very happy to see that this excellent blog has found a home at CBR. I look forward to reading both the blog and the board.

(rewritten to remove pointless sarcasm)

[stealthwise]

Cool. One of the few comic sites that I visit, so it's nice to see you guys connected to CBR. Laziness yeah!

[FunkyGreenJerusalem]

Congrats. I've been waiting for CSBG to join the big leagues. It was always a bit too indy for me.


See, I'm the exact opposite - bring back the indyness already I say!
I have true fan mentality dammit, I don't want to share it with the mainstream!

That said, now that you boys are big time, can we bring back the thing where we make suggestions and Brian has to buy the book and do a review?
Or even better, an old series we are curious in, and Greg has to then track it down on e-bay, get a good deal on it, read it, and then get his class to review it?

[Sean Whitmore]

See, I disagree. I think comics should just be okay.

Stick THAT in your pipe and smoke it, Cronin!


SEAN

[ocelotrevs]

Oh ummm ok.

What's this about?

[OzBat!]

It's about Comics! that Should be Good (goodcomics.comicbookresources.com). And their older site, http://goodcomics.blogspot.com (goodcomics/blogspot.com)!

[Jack Flash]

totally cool Brian! Congrats Congrats Congrats!

[Kid Seven]

Brian,
Welcome to CBR! I've been checking out your blog for the last couple months and been realy digging it; I'm completely addicted to the Urban Myths. Awesome to have you guys at CBR and to see that you have a forum as well.

The End Is Near.

[J'onn J'onzz]

It's about Comics! that Should be Good (goodcomics.comicbookresources.com). And their older site, http://goodcomics.blogspot.com (goodcomics/blogspot.com)!


If you're going to type a link out spell it right! It's http://goodcomics.blogspot.com (goodcomics.blogspot.com).

[DarthAstuart]

congrats on the new site...longtime reader following you over here. good stuff.

[Justin Davis]

Holy frickin' a, Brian. This is very cool. I'm filled with envy. Glowing, green envy. Oh, no, wait, that's last night's dinner.

[Greg Hatcher]

Or even better, an old series we are curious in, and Greg has to then track it down on e-bay, get a good deal on it, read it, and then get his class to review it?

Chances are I probably already have it lying around here somewhere. I dunno about the kids though. I tried to talk a couple of them into doing capsule reviews but the complained that it sucked all the fun out of reading comics at school if they had to do a book report about them. Apparently, even if it's a cool comic you like, and it's being done for publication, a book report is still a pain in the ass if you are twelve.

[Brian Cronin]

Chances are I probably already have it lying around here somewhere. I dunno about the kids though. I tried to talk a couple of them into doing capsule reviews but the complained that it sucked all the fun out of reading comics at school if they had to do a book report about them. Apparently, even if it's a cool comic you like, and it's being done for publication, a book report is still a pain in the ass if you are twelve.

Yeah, I can see that being a pain.

-Brian

[Stephane Garrelie]

:) That's a good move.

[FunkyGreenJerusalem]

Chances are I probably already have it lying around here somewhere. I dunno about the kids though. I tried to talk a couple of them into doing capsule reviews but the complained that it sucked all the fun out of reading comics at school if they had to do a book report about them. Apparently, even if it's a cool comic you like, and it's being done for publication, a book report is still a pain in the ass if you are twelve.

Any chance of seeing any of the kids books, or even just samples online?

Kinda hard for some of us to get to the cons you take them too and all.

[OzBat!]

If you're going to type a link out spell it right! It's http://goodcomics.blogspot.com (goodcomics.blogspot.com).Cut'n'paste is my friend. G'wan... put your cursor over that link. See anything not right? You'll note there's no underline to that "!" either. So how is what I posted wrong?

[Dan Apodaca]

See, I'm the exact opposite - bring back the indyness already I say!
I have true fan mentality dammit, I don't want to share it with the mainstream!

I'm just afraid of the kind of crowd that CBR attracts. I mean, we all got a nice little taste of the new audience in the comments to the Whedon/X-Men post.

I'm forseeing many frustrating trolls.

[Greg Hatcher]

Any chance of seeing any of the kids books, or even just samples online?

Kinda hard for some of us to get to the cons you take them to and all.

As it happens, probably sometime in the next couple of weeks I will probably post some scans in a Friday column. I just have to get pages scanned, which is a hassle because I don't have a scanner here at home.

In the meantime, interested parties can PM me an address and I'd happily send you one of the convention books. We have a few left over.

[Lex]

Dangit. All the good "Cronin is taking over CBR" jokes were already taken.

Congrats, gang! I look forward to reading the blog... which I already did anyway.

[Ultraman Max]

I'm just afraid of the kind of crowd that CBR attracts. I mean, we all got a nice little taste of the new audience in the comments to the Whedon/X-Men post.

I'm forseeing many frustrating trolls.


I was going to say something on that too, it's odd how the audience has changed or at least added some more combative/defensive elements since the move. The first taste of it seemed to be in the "What I bought" entry.




-JR

[Dan Apodaca]

Whenever I try to to view the comments, it sends me to this page that says I'm not allowed in. I'm too computer-illiterate to figure out how to fix it. Any help?

[Brian Cronin]

I think I banned you from reading comments, because I hate you.

-Brian (who'll ask Jonah about it...sounds like a weird problem)

[Dan Apodaca]

I think I banned you from reading comments, because I hate you.

-Brian (who'll ask Jonah about it...sounds like a weird problem)

I knew it! Fascist!


Let me see if I can get you a better description of what it's showing me.



..... And now it's working.

[algertman]

Hey man, let's start small. You can't expect ALL comics to be good.
We're gonna do it ONE AT A TIME!
Oh YEAH!!!

Today, Infinite Crisis... next week, NFL Superpro!
Bet yer ass!


LONG LIVE NFL SUPER PRO!

[Dan Apodaca]

And now it's working.

And now it's not again. Here's what it says on the page I'm getting redirected to:

Precondition Failed

We're sorry, but we could not fulfill your request for /2006/06/01/breaking-down-event-comics-part-one-identity-crisis-1-7-or-why-you-should-always-stop-one-issue-short-of-your-goal/ on this server.
We have established rules for access to this server, and any person or robot that violates these rules will be unable to access this site.
To resolve this problem, please try the following steps:

Ensure that your computer is free of viruses, Trojan horses, spyware or any other sort of malicious software.
If you are using any sort of personal firewall or browser privacy software, check to ensure that its settings do not cause your web browser to inadvertently violate any of the rules listed below.
If you are behind a Web proxy or corporate firewall, the proxy must conform to the HTTP specification (http://www.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2616.txt) with respect to proxy servers. Contact your network administrator if the trouble persists, or bypass the proxy and connect directly if possible.
Disable any download accelerators you may be using. They don't speed up your downloads anyway; in most cases, they actually run slower!
If all else fails, try using a different Web browser, such as Firefox (http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id=32135&t=71).If you still need assistance, please contact smoovyg at 4colorreview.com (smoovyg+nospam@nospam.4colorreview.com).
More Information

For your reference, the conditions for access to this server are:
Robots:


MUST read and obey robots.txt (http://www.robotstxt.org/).
MUST identify themselves properly; for example MUST NOT identify as Mozilla.
MUST NOT pretend to be a human.Humans:


MUST NOT pretend to be a robot.
MUST NOT use a computer infected with viruses, Trojan horses or other malicious software.Both:


MUST NOT harvest email addresses.
MUST NOT attempt to send spam.
MUST NOT attempt to compromise server security.
MUST NOT use excessive amounts of bandwidth or other server resources.The precondition on the request for the URL /2006/06/01/breaking-down-event-comics-part-one-identity-crisis-1-7-or-why-you-should-always-stop-one-issue-short-of-your-goal/ evaluated to false.
<ADDRESS>Apache/1.3.33 Server at goodcomics.comicbookresources.com Port 80</ADDRESS>

[Ronald Bryan]

It's because you like to pretend to be a robot, Dan.

[Dan Apodaca]

It's because you like to pretend to be a robot, Dan.

I was hoping somebody would say that.

[DubipR]

Cronin and Deutscheland Uber Alles go together like Peanu Butter & Chocolate!
The Cronin Reich is growing. Bee-Cee must be thwarted.



Nah. Congrats, man. Already bookmarked.

[Ryan K]

Oh. So who's gonna write about and defend the bad comics then?

[Brian Cronin]

Bad comics are discussed on the blog!

-Brian

[Ryan K]

Bad comics are discussed on the blog!

-Brian

I really should read the damn thing before making smart ass comments huh?

[atoningunifex]

Oh. So who's gonna write about and defend the bad comics then?

I'm working opn a post about how much I am jsut in love with All Star Batman and Robin the Boy Wonder.

it's coming.

[Greg Hatcher]

Oh. So who's gonna write about and defend the bad comics then?

I think everyone on the crew has their personal list of Bad Comics they love blindly. Mine is anything to do with the 70's Kung Fu craze... sure, a lot of good stuff came out of that like Shang-Chi and the Claremont/Byrne Iron Fist, but I get just as excited and giddy over the original Richard Dragon books, or the Karate Kid solo book, or even Charlton's Yang. Probably my single favorite comics purchase this last year was an eBay win of a bunch of old Deadly Hands of Kung Fu magazines with the serialized adventures of the Sons of the Tiger, by Bill Mantlo and a young George Perez. Almost nobody will even admit to liking Bill Mantlo at all but I ADORED that run.

Comics Should Be Good, absolutely, but my personal feeling is that if you haven't got at least some affection for the goofball weirdness of the whole superhero genre, you really shouldn't be in the business of writing about mainstream comics from DC or Marvel. I always wondered about the gang at the Journal in the 80's, writing screed after screed about how superhero comics weren't striving to be High Art. To me that's like screaming at Vince McMahon about his total lack of interest in giving professional wrestling storylines with literary merit and an awareness of the Aristotlean Unities.

Which isn't to say that we shouldn't hold creators to high standards. I'm just saying let's hold them to the standards of the genre they're already working in and not scream at them for not doing something that's clearly not even on the table.

[Bright-Raven]

Greg Hatcher writes:

(This)isn't to say that we shouldn't hold creators to high standards. I'm just saying let's hold them to the standards of the genre they're already working in and not scream at them for not doing something that's clearly not even on the table.

Sorry, Greg, but given how many comics writers write outside of comics on a regular basis and even more importantly how many of today's writers are coming in with reputations earned outside of the field, the expectations of these people is deservedly higher, and the sad fact is, most of them can't and don't live up to expectations.

Is that the limitations of the genre or the medium, or is it the limitations of the writer? Actually, it's all of the above. Most of today's most successful comics writers are overworked and overexposed, which lessens the quality of their efforts. Then there are of course differences between being a prose fiction author writing pretty much whatever the hell they want (a la Greg Rucka or Neil Gaiman with their own creator owned novels), and writing comics or even prose featuring corporate owned properties. The original materials will surpass the corporate materials nine times out of ten.

Then there's the audience. I'm outspoken, but I know there are a lot of people out there like me who are just sick of seeing the same people everywhere they turn and have simply boycotted anything associated with a given writer or artist simply because they're tired of that talent and want something - someone - different. And that doesn't mean digging up established writers from other mediums. I don't know about you, but I pay attention to the writers of the books I choose to read, or the films / tv shows I choose to watch. And I want DIFFERENT creators in ALL of the different entertainment venues I support.

So does the majority of the real world, I'd wager.

But you couldn't put that notion past corporate entertainment.

[Brian Cronin]

I'm working opn a post about how much I am jsut in love with All Star Batman and Robin the Boy Wonder.

it's coming.

But that comic isn't bad!

I probably wouldn't recommend it, but I wouldn't call it bad!

-Brian

[atoningunifex]

But that comic isn't bad!

I probably wouldn't recommend it, but I wouldn't call it bad!

-Brian

Nor would I. But the majority of the people you see talking about it online seem to think it's bad.

And I never recommend anything. That's why it is so hard for me to write for CSBG.

[Dan Apodaca]

I can't read anything!

[Dan Apodaca]

Well, until I can figure out how to circumvent this weirdness that I'm experiencing, it looks like I won't be able to read CSBG for a while.

Or make any useless comments.

So, bye for now everyone. I'll miss you!

[Brian Cronin]

Tell me what the problem is, and I will ask Jonah about it!

-Brian

[Dan Apodaca]

Every time I try to check out the page, it sends me to this a page with this on it:

Precondition Failed

We're sorry, but we could not fulfill your request for /2006/06/01/breaking-down-event-comics-part-one-identity-crisis-1-7-or-why-you-should-always-stop-one-issue-short-of-your-goal/ on this server.
We have established rules for access to this server, and any person or robot that violates these rules will be unable to access this site.
To resolve this problem, please try the following steps:

Ensure that your computer is free of viruses, Trojan horses, spyware or any other sort of malicious software.
If you are using any sort of personal firewall or browser privacy software, check to ensure that its settings do not cause your web browser to inadvertently violate any of the rules listed below.
If you are behind a Web proxy or corporate firewall, the proxy must conform to the HTTP specification (http://www.isi.edu/in-notes/rfc2616.txt) with respect to proxy servers. Contact your network administrator if the trouble persists, or bypass the proxy and connect directly if possible.
Disable any download accelerators you may be using. They don't speed up your downloads anyway; in most cases, they actually run slower!
If all else fails, try using a different Web browser, such as Firefox (http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliates&id=32135&t=71).If you still need assistance, please contact smoovyg at 4colorreview.com (smoovyg+nospam@nospam.4colorreview.com).
More Information

For your reference, the conditions for access to this server are:
Robots:


MUST read and obey robots.txt (http://www.robotstxt.org/).
MUST identify themselves properly; for example MUST NOT identify as Mozilla.
MUST NOT pretend to be a human.Humans:


MUST NOT pretend to be a robot.
MUST NOT use a computer infected with viruses, Trojan horses or other malicious software.Both:


MUST NOT harvest email addresses.
MUST NOT attempt to send spam.
MUST NOT attempt to compromise server security.
MUST NOT use excessive amounts of bandwidth or other server resources.The precondition on the request for the URL /2006/06/01/breaking-down-event-comics-part-one-identity-crisis-1-7-or-why-you-should-always-stop-one-issue-short-of-your-goal/ evaluated to false.
<ADDRESS>Apache/1.3.33 Server at goodcomics.comicbookresources.com Port 80</ADDRESS>

[Jonah Weiland]

Dan,

Are you logging in behind a corporate firewall, or maybe a proxy? I've got one of my guys looking into it, but at the moment we're not able to recreate the problem on our side.

[Jonah Weiland]

OK, so Stephen, the dude who set the whole thing up, said it's being caused by an anti-spam plug-in we're using on the blog. Details can be found here:

http://www.homelandstupidity.us/software/bad-behavior/bad-behavior-faq/

And here's an important bit:

I have been blocked by Bad Behavior! What do I do?

In extremely rare circumstances, Bad Behavior may block actual human visitors. Bad Behavior was designed to target robots, not people. If this happens, the profile presented by your browser matched that seen from actual malicious robots. In most cases, this is caused by over-aggressive personal firewall/browser privacy software. In some cases, this is caused by improperly configured Web proxy server software.


Try disabling the browser privacy settings in your personal firewall/browser privacy software, and/or bypassing the Web proxy and making a direct connection. Disable any download accelerators in use, especially if you are on dialup and your ISP provided you one. (These so-called accelerators rarely speed up anything; our analysis of these accelerators indicate they usually slow things down!) If all else fails, try a different Web browser with a new user profile.


If you continue to have trouble, contact me (badbots%40ioerror.us) and provide a copy of the logs which Bad Behavior stores in the database showing where your IP address was blocked. I will provide further assistance until the trouble is resolved.


Stephen's looking into it to see if we can solve this problem for you without having to remove the plug-in entirely. We'll keep you posted.

[Bald Steve]

This is awesome for you guys. I can't live without those urban legends...

[Harvey Jerkwater]

Holy crap, we have a forum now?

Man, sleep through one board meeting of CSBG and you miss everything.

Kickass.

[FunkyGreenJerusalem]

I'm outspoken, but I know there are a lot of people out there like me who are just sick of seeing the same people everywhere they turn and have simply boycotted anything associated with a given writer or artist simply because they're tired of that talent and want something - someone - different.

I only stop reading a creator when I feel their quality drops or they just become repetitive - hence I can no longer just buy some Bendis or Ellis and know that it's going to be good.

But you couldn't put that notion past corporate entertainment.

Then don't go corporate.

Get your comics from the smaller companies or self publishers.
There's some brilliant stuff coming out from them at the moment.

[Dan Apodaca]

Dan,

Are you logging in behind a corporate firewall, or maybe a proxy? I've got one of my guys looking into it, but at the moment we're not able to recreate the problem on our side.

I'm not too sure, as I'm fairly retarded when it comes to that kind of stuff. It must be something in the security settings for the computer, though, because I tried firefox and had the same problem.

I'll see if I can get this worked out.

And thanks for the help! By some stroke of luck, I was able to see the front page when I tried today, and there's so much I want to read!

[Citizen V]

Our very own forum!

Howdy, CBR!

-Brian

I dont understand.

"Comics Should Be Good".........are they not good already?

[Brian Cronin]

Some are, some aren't.

We like to point out the ones that are, and the ones that aren't, with the hope that folks are steered towards the good ones and know why the bad ones aren't good.

-Brian