View Full Version : Essential X-Men's cover issues #1-54, then 94-current, but what about 55-93???
daletron
05-24-2006, 08:13 PM
Essential Uncanny X-Men 1 (1-24)
Essential Classic X-Men 2 (25-54)
Essential X-Men 1 (94-119)
looking at tplist.com, I see that X-Men Masterworks 6 has issues #54-66...
but what about issues 67-93??? does anyone know if they have plans to make a 3rd Essential Uncanny X-Men?
these essentials are the perfect bathroom book and i would hate to not have read all those issues
well just incase they never plan to print those issues, can anyone tell me if anything rather significant or important happens during that time span? thanks
Beast
05-24-2006, 08:14 PM
67-93 were just reprints. And yes, they'll eventually do a 3rd Essential Classic X-Men with 55-66.
The book will also likely contain the Beast solo issues as well as some of the other solo stuff.
daletron
05-24-2006, 08:16 PM
are you serious? wait. you mean reprints of the earlier issues??
shadowraven
05-24-2006, 08:22 PM
are you serious? wait. you mean reprints of the earlier issues??
X-men was suffering from bad sales early on and the series was cancelled. Since reprints were cheaper than comissioning new stories, they ran those instead but kept the numbering going.
The series relaunched with Giant-sized X-men #1 (followed by UWM 94) and sales have been pretty peachy since.
Beast
05-24-2006, 08:24 PM
are you serious? wait. you mean reprints of the earlier issues??
Yes. X-Men was cancelled at #66 due to sales. It went into reprints due to the sales still being fairly positive, but the book didn't start doing new stories until Issue #94.
The Lucky One
05-24-2006, 09:32 PM
Just as an add-on: the X-Men kept busy during that time guest starring in other people's books. Havok and Polaris fought the Hulk, Beast had his own solo run in Amazing Adventures (and then he and the Mimic fought the Hulk, with Mimic "dying"), Angel had a back-up solo story in Ka-Zar Quarterly, and the whole team was involved in a big Marvel crossover where the Secret Empire captured many Marvel heroes, including members of the X-Men. Here's the chronological list of their appearances between X-Men (vol. 1) #67 and Giant-Size X-Men #1, along with X-Men: The Hidden Years, a series by John Byrne from a few years back that told tales set right after issue 67:
Ka-Zar 2-3, Marvel Tales 30 (3-part Angel solo story; part 1 published same month X-Men was cancelled, but chronologically must occur pre-Hidden Years)
X-Men: The Hidden Years 1-22 (whole team)
Amazing Spider-Man 92 (Iceman)
Amazing Adventures 11-17 (Beast solo run; X-Men cameo in 12, 15; Angel guest star in 15)
Incredible Hulk 150 (Havok, Polaris)
Marvel Team-Up 4 (original team, minus Beast)
Incredible Hulk 161 (Beast, Mimic)
Avengers 110-111 (whole team, Magneto)
Shanna the She-Devil 5 (Professor X)
Incredible Hulk 172 (Cyclops, Marvel Girl, Professor X)
Fear 20 (whole team in flashbacks)
Captain America 172-175 (Banshee, whole team)
Incredible Hulk 180-181 (first Wolverine, pre-joining X-Men)
Marvel Team-Up 23 (original team, minus Beast... leave at end for "special mission," possibly Krakoa mission)
Defenders 15-16 (Magneto, Professor X)
Giant-Size Fantastic Four 4 (Professor X, first Madrox the Multiple Man)
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The Sword Is Drawn
05-25-2006, 02:03 AM
67-93 were just reprints. And yes, they'll eventually do a 3rd Essential Classic X-Men with 55-66.
The book will also likely contain the Beast solo issues as well as some of the other solo stuff.
Now that might actually be worth buying.
I really struggled reading through the early issues of Uncanny X-Men. It's exceptionally dated now. The latter end of the run was better, but by with Count Nefaria, The Purcupine, The Cobalt Man, and was it The Locust? It was a struggle...
But if it contained solo stuff I'd buy it for that, just to patch some gaps between the original run and the start of Claremont's.
Ryan K
05-26-2006, 10:15 AM
67-93 were just reprints. And yes, they'll eventually do a 3rd Essential Classic X-Men with 55-66.
The book will also likely contain the Beast solo issues as well as some of the other solo stuff.
Have we actually heard they WILL do another volume? Or is it just speculation?
Beast
05-26-2006, 01:07 PM
Have we actually heard they WILL do another volume? Or is it just speculation?
Yes, they've said as much in posts over on Marvel Masterwork's forums.
Ryan K
05-26-2006, 04:16 PM
Yes, they've said as much in posts over on Marvel Masterwork's forums.
Excellent! Did they also mention the inclusion of the Beast stuff?
Beast
05-26-2006, 04:19 PM
Excellent! Did they also mention the inclusion of the Beast stuff?
Yes, that's one of the things that they plan to include. Both in it, and Marvel Masterworks X-Men #7.
Ryan K
05-26-2006, 04:25 PM
Yes, that's one of the things that they plan to include. Both in it, and Marvel Masterworks X-Men #7.
Nice. Always wanted to read those. Thanks for the heads up.
Beast
05-26-2006, 04:26 PM
Nice. Always wanted to read those. Thanks for the heads up.
Did you get the Marvel Milestone: Beast & Kitty Pryde issue? :)
Ryan K
05-26-2006, 07:41 PM
Did you get the Marvel Milestone: Beast & Kitty Pryde issue? :)
No. I must have missed that. What was included in there?
Huzzah!
05-26-2006, 08:04 PM
i always thought they should do new "old" issues to fill in those reprint issues
Hell get Neal Adams back
Beast
05-26-2006, 08:06 PM
No. I must have missed that. What was included in there?
Amazing Adventures #11 (First Furry Beast), and Kitty's Fairy Tale. :)
Beast
05-26-2006, 08:07 PM
i always thought they should do new "old" issues to fill in those reprint issues
Hell get Neal Adams back
That's what they were sorta doing with X-Men: Hidden Years. :)
Huzzah!
05-26-2006, 08:11 PM
X-men hidden years was all new all different wasnt it? Eh. Not really the same. I mean really get into there and explore the space with that cowbell. tell some fun classic x-men stories, use it to set up new old villains, etc
jaguarshark
05-26-2006, 08:16 PM
Originally posted by Huzzah!X-men hidden years was all new all different wasnt it? Eh. Not really the same. I mean really get into there and explore the space with that cowbell. tell some fun classic x-men stories, use it to set up new old villains, etc
Like Beast said, that's what they were doing with 'Hidden Years'. It was set between the Thomas/Adams issues and the All New, All Different relaunch. I've only got a couple of 'Hidden Years' issues, if they're easy and inexpensive to track down I'll get the rest.
Huzzah!
05-26-2006, 08:33 PM
Well even then. I want the numbering. And the Adams
The Lucky One
05-27-2006, 09:10 AM
Well even then. I want the numbering. And the Adams
It had the numbering. Each issue had hidden on the cover the number of what issue it would have been if it'd been a direct continuation from 66. Since THY was cancelled with 22, there are still 5 issues unaccounted for.
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Cicero
05-27-2006, 11:04 AM
Do the Masterworks volumes share the dimensions of Marvel's oversized hardcovers (New X-Men 1-3, Astonishing X-Men, etc.)?
Beast
05-27-2006, 11:08 AM
Do the Masterworks volumes share the dimensions of Marvel's oversized hardcovers (New X-Men 1-3, Astonishing X-Men, etc.)?
No. They're basically Trade Paperback size.
Cicero
05-27-2006, 11:19 AM
Oh. That's too bad ... I was hoping to collect a fair number of important X-Men stories in this size. Do you know of any collections of the Masterworks-included issues which are of the oversized dimensions?
Beast
05-27-2006, 11:23 AM
Oh. That's too bad ... I was hoping to collect a fair number of important X-Men stories in this size. Do you know of any collections of the Masterworks-included issues which are of the oversized dimensions?
The $100 X-Men Omnibus which has Giant Sized X-Men #1, Uncanny X-Men #94-131, and Uncanny X-Men Annual #3 is in the Oversized Hardcover format. And oversized it is, at 848 pages. :D
Cicero
05-27-2006, 11:42 AM
The $100 X-Men Omnibus which has Giant Sized X-Men #1, Uncanny X-Men #94-131, and Uncanny X-Men Annual #3 is in the Oversized Hardcover format. And oversized it is, at 848 pages. :D
Thanks. :)
Huzzah!
05-27-2006, 04:04 PM
It had the numbering. Each issue had hidden on the cover the number of what issue it would have been if it'd been a direct continuation from 66. Since THY was cancelled with 22, there are still 5 issues unaccounted for.
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Well didnt John Bryne write it?
Only Wein or whoever was writing it when Neal Adams was drawing it should.
There. Since im almost 100 percent positive that didnt happen none of you can show up my x-spinoff ignorance.
Roy Thomas maybe?
Whoever.. only those 2 get to do it. With Cockrum or Neal adams.
jaguarshark
05-27-2006, 10:07 PM
Originally posted by Huzzah!
Well didnt John Bryne write it?
Only Wein or whoever was writing it when Neal Adams was drawing it should.
There. Since im almost 100 percent positive that didnt happen none of you can show up my x-spinoff ignorance.
Roy Thomas maybe?
Whoever.. only those 2 get to do it. With Cockrum or Neal adams.
Under those rules, Stan Lee and Jack Kirby would be the only people allowed to write and draw X-Men comics. :)
david r
05-27-2006, 10:14 PM
Well didnt John Bryne write it?
Yes, Byrne wrote X-Men: The Hidden Years. He used the original X-Men. Though Storm does appear. The first 13 issues are quite good.
Only Wein or whoever was writing it when Neal Adams was drawing it should.
Roy Thomas wrote nearly all of the Neal Adams era. There is not a chance in Hell that Thomas is returning to X-Men, though.
For hardcore X-fans, I recommend "X-Men: The Hidden Years". The first 13 issues are pure fun (the highlight is #12, when Magneto battles Sauron.) After #13, the series gets bogged down in heavy continuity and Byrne's personal eccentricities.
Huzzah!
05-27-2006, 10:15 PM
no the rules are there because one of those writers gets to bridge the gap in the story cuz they were on at the time. Its layers upon layers
david r
05-27-2006, 10:33 PM
no the rules are there because one of those writers gets to bridge the gap in the story cuz they were on at the time. Its layers upon layers
Unfortunately, Marvel doesn't play by your rules. I doubt Roy Thomas would even be interested in returning to write X-Men now.
Sure it makes more sense. But it's a moot point really, because lovable Joe cancelled X:TE because it was inaccessible to newbies and there were too many "similiar books". Byrne and Quesada cussed each other out on the phone and now Byrne and Marvel despise each other.
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