Whats the best Wolverine story lines of all time?

[im399unot]

....and lets not include the Miller mini. Love it or hate it everyone already knows about this one.

Wolverine has been around forever and used almost more than any other character so there has to be some great storylines out there, what are they.

They can be from any series or appearance. What are your top 5 story lines with issue #'s please? Here is you chance to give all the non-Wolvie lovers out there a reason to care.

I am asking this because I am loosing interest in my favorite character. I am 30 years old and I grew up with this great, gritty and mysterious character and for some reason I don’t really care anymore. My first exposure to Wolverine was the cartoon "Pride of the X-Men" I loved the character and started collecting all his X-men books. I just love his X-men stuff from issue 120- 250. After this period the character has never felt the same. Every year he is less and less of what made him great. I just think that no one knows how to write his character. I am just asking that you fine people refresh our memories on why we all grew to love this wild Canadian in the first place.

I feel like such a turncoat. My sons name is Logan *amn it.

Please, just refresh my memory on what this guy used to be like. Give me the be-all-and end-all Wolverine stories that made me love this character in the first place.

... and I hated Millars run on the new series so please, leave that pile off the list :)

[Affinity]

AHHHH, WOLVERINE THREAD EXPLOSIONNNNNN GRARGHHAHRGHRG!!!

No, really, like three within a half an hour.

[bagheera]

Weapon X storyline where he is implanted with the adamantium!

[Huzzah!]

Lets hijack this thread and start talking about the worst wolverine story lines of all time.

Even though i have read nothing about it, i nominate bucky killing his wife.

[crusader33x]

i am in the same boat as you, although i have never read miller's nor millar's take on wolvie. what issues were those? and what did you Like and NOT like about their takes?

also, how do u feel wolvie has changed? how do u feel his character should be?

[Huzzah!]

Frank Milla(e)rs run was a mini with Chris Claremont. It was very good. Really developed the character into an interesting mythos..something other than just a badass, the character looked more internally as a failure to himself. That i liked. I didnt like the fact it was short/...thats about it. It was pretty masterful

As for Mark Milla(e)rs run, that was..........god i dont remember. Anyway i havent read it all, only the first bit. There were some intersting little moments...like a superhero who was killed by the hand/wolveirne and no one knew his name, but it seemed from the first bit a bit fanfictionesk, wolverine was protrayed a bit too badass for my taste. Also.,...he killed Northstar, which i dont really see as that possible...but i seem to recall some self sacrifice thing or some such ...

the art was by Romita Jr. i think, and it was as blocky as always.

others have spoken highly about it..so perhaps there was some big turn around with the second half, but i lost interest quickly

[Citizen V]

Wolverine has been around forever and used almost more than any other character so there has to be some great storylines out there, what are they.

They can be from any series or appearance. What are your top 5 story lines with issue #'s please? Here is you chance to give all the non-Wolvie lovers out there a reason to care.

I am asking this because I am loosing interest in my favorite character. I am 30 years old and I grew up with this great, gritty and mysterious character and for some reason I don’t really care anymore. Every year he is less and less of what made him great. I just think that no one knows how to write his character. I am just asking that you fine people refresh our memories on why we all grew to love this wild Canadian in the first place.

I feel like such a turncoat. My sons name is Logan *amn it.

Please, just refresh my memory on what this guy used to be like. Give me the be-all-and end-all Wolverine stories that made me love this character in the first place.

... and I hated Millars run on the new series so please, leave that pile off the list :)

The Geihina Stone arc,it was good.But mostly any Wolverine story by Chris Claremont or Larry Hama is good.Yes..Wolverine is not what he usto be..

[im399unot]

i am in the same boat as you, although i have never read miller's nor millar's take on wolvie. what issues were those? and what did you Like and NOT like about their takes?

also, how do u feel wolvie has changed? how do u feel his character should be?




Frank Millers 4 issue mini was good. I don’t think it is as good as most people but it was far better than the norm. This was the time period that almost everything Frank did was great.

The Mark Millar stuff was just Bad, just my two cents. I can’t even really tell you what it was really about. It was that BLAAA.

I liked how Wolverine was almost an Anti-hero. Not the same way as the Punisher is but sort of. He took no prisoners. He made no excuses for his actions and he let his claws do the talking. His reluctant team mates known as the X-Men did not really seem to totally trust or accept him but they let him stick around because they knew that he was the one guy that could really get down and dirty when the others did not have the stomach to do it themselves. Wolverine was not a typical good guy hero he was an anomaly that sort of skated a fine line between bad and good. I think that this has been completely lost in the last few years. I think that this concept has been completely ignored in the recent past or just done really bad.

There is a fine line that needs to be walked with this character and I think it’s been a long time since it has been done really well.

[im399unot]

The Geihina Stone arc,it was good.But mostly any Wolverine story by Chris Claremont or Larry Hama is good.Yes..Wolverine is not what he usto be..


I agree that this was Pretty good but I still think that things were changing at this point in time for him as well. I dont think I have really been wowed by anything since Hama. I am in no way saying that all his stuff was great but I think that it was much better than the last 8 or so years.

I do think that Claremont wrote most of the classic Wolverine stories. These were the ones that I fell in love with.

[Mister Mets]

For me the best Wolverine stories (in no order) are...

Wolverine VS The Hellfire Club....Uncanny X-Men #132-134
Wolverine solo story..........Uncanny X-Men #162
The Alpha Flight Stories..........Uncanny X-Men #110, 120-121, 139-140
The Miller/ Claremont mini series
Silver Samurai/ Wedding of Logan........Uncanny X-Men #172-173
Weapon X (Marvel Comics Presents #72-84)
The Spider-Man VS Wolverine one shot
Incredible Hulk) #340- Wolverine VS Hulk, their greatest battle.
Wolverine Volume 2 #1-6: Rucka & Robertson's first arc. Great beserker rage/ meeting with nightcrawler.
New X-Men #142-150: Assault on Weapon Plus, Planet X
Wolverine Volume 2 #20-31: Millar's 12 issue epic. Includes battles with Elektra, the Fantastic 4, the X-Men, Daredevil, the Hand, Hydra, SHIELD, and an impossibly fast mutant powerhouse called Gorgon.

Note- Marvel collected "Weapon X", the Miller/ Claremont mini series, a decent Cap/ Wolverine crossover by Gruenwald/ Zeck, a Lady Deathstrike story by Barry Windsor Smith & Chris Claremont, and Wolverine's first appearance into a "Best of Wolverine Hardcover." It's probably the best single introduction to the character. And dcbs has it for 15 bucks.
http://www.dcbservice.com/trade.aspx?id=10a&h=b&b=68

Wizard made their own best of Wolverine hardcover, with a rare Classic X-men tale, the Byrne/ Claremont two-parter w/ Wolverine, Nightcrawler, and Alpha Flight VS Wendigo, the Claremont/ Jim Lee World War 2 Logan & Captain America tale, the Peter David/ Todd Mcfarlane Wolverine VS Hulk tale, Claremont/ Smith's two part sequel to the Wolverine mini series, and a 4 part epic by Steve Skroce. Also excellent stuff, if you can find it. Amazon.com has a few copies.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/097432535X/sr=8-3/qid=1148434698/ref=sr_1_3/102-1890632-9563363?%5Fencoding=UTF8

[20yrslater]

Along with the wedding arc (anyone else love Paul Smith's X-Men as much as I did?), I really enjoyed the mini-arc when Logan confronted Peter after Secret Wars, when Peter was all mopey. While the story is really about Peter growing up, and an awesome fight with an unarmored Juggernaut and Selena lurking about, I think it really underscores Logan's worldliness, and how much he does care for his teammates. No Logandickery, here. I also liked the storylines that focused on Logan and Kurt's friendship, as they always played well off each other.

[im399unot]

For me the best Wolverine stories (in no order) are...

Wolverine VS The Hellfire Club....Uncanny X-Men #132-134

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/097432535X/sr=8-3/qid=1148434698/ref=sr_1_3/102-1890632-9563363?%5Fencoding=UTF8




Now this is Wolverine at his best. This is how he should be written. Like I said before, Wolverine was great from this point to the Mid 200's

Some stuff was ok from his solo series but it never matched this point in the characters history

[Angel of Death]

like a superhero who was killed by the hand/wolveirne and no one knew his name,

http://www.comiccovers.com/watermark.php?src=comiccovers-280/Sensational%20Hornet%20%5bMarvel%5d%20OS1/0001.jpg

[Mister Mets]

Along with the wedding arc (anyone else love Paul Smith's X-Men as much as I did?), I really enjoyed the mini-arc when Logan confronted Peter after Secret Wars, when Peter was all mopey. While the story is really about Peter growing up, and an awesome fight with an unarmored Juggernaut and Selena lurking about, I think it really underscores Logan's worldliness, and how much he does care for his teammates. No Logandickery, here. I also liked the storylines that focused on Logan and Kurt's friendship, as they always played well off each other.

It wasn't really a mini arc. It was a single issue.
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/97792366288.183.gif

[Jack Flash]

warren Ellis's run was great. no idea on the ish #s. and I liked the Skroce run too.

[Will.S]

warren Ellis's run was great. no idea on the ish #s. and I liked the Skroce run too.
Yeah I keep forgetting about those, "Not Dead Yet" and "Blood Debt" are really awesome/action packed and put Wolverine in crazy ass situations.

Cyberman has a pretty definitive list right there as well.

[Mikl C]

kitty pryde wolverine limited series without a doubt the finest piece of wolverine literature ever :)

[Huzzah!]

http://www.comiccovers.com/watermark.php?src=comiccovers-280/Sensational%20Hornet%20%5bMarvel%5d%20OS1/0001.jpg

Jesus....i thought that guy was just made up


Millar really needs to try killing some of his own characters


Good moment though

[DDM]

Uncanny X-Men #133 (vs Hellfire Club mercanaries)
Uncanny X-Men #172-173 (w/Rogue vs Viper & Silver Samurai)
Uncanny X-Men #183 (w/Nightcrawler, Colossus vs Juggernaut)
Uncanny X-Men #205 (vs a newly transformed cyborg Lady Deathstrike)
Uncanny X-Men #212-213 (vs Sabretooth)
Uncanny X-Men #221-222 (Wolverine as the X-Men's leader due to Storm's absence, vs the Marauders)
Uncanny X-Men #225-226 (vs Freedom Force, the Adversary)
Uncanny X-Men #235-238 (w/Rogue as Carol Danvers vs Genoshan Magistrates)
Uncanny X-Men #251 (w/ Jubillee, vs the Reavers)
Uncanny X-Men #256-258 w/Psylocke & Jubilee, vs the Hand & the Mandarin)
Uncanny X-Men #268 (flashback story with Captain America during World War II, vs the Hand)
Uncanny X-Men #271 (w/ Jubilee & Psylocke, vs Genoshan Magistrates & Commander Hodge)

Wolverine #1-4 by Chris Claremont & Frank Miller
Kitty Pryde & Wolverine #1-8 by Chris Claremont & Al Milgrom
Havok & Wolverine: Meltdown #1-4 by Louise Simonson, Walter Simonson, & Jon J. Muth
Incredible Hulk #340 by Peter David & Todd McFarlane (vs the Hulk, cameo of the X-Men)

Wolverine #1-10 (1988) by Chris Claremont & Sal Buscema
X-Men: True Friends #1-3 (w/Shadowcat & Phoenix, vs the Shadow King)

[Huzzah!]

You forgot hardcase and the harriers DDM

[Will.S]

Jesus....i thought that guy was just made up


Millar really needs to try killing some of his own characters
He killed off the Gorgon.

[Jake V]

Jesus....i thought that guy was just made up


Millar really needs to try killing some of his own characters


Good moment though
He's killed tons of his own characters. He just makes sure he owns them before doing it.

[Hombre]

Wolverine #1-10 (1988) by Chris Claremont & Sal Buscema



I think it's worth noting, those issues were penciled by John.

[THANOS/WOLVERINE]

I love Wolverine probobly more than most so it just makes me sad to think some of the ones named are being considered his best by people on this board. What a shame because some of the stuff is nothing great.

Here are some of Wolverine's best stories:

Wolverine stories:
Wolverine #34- Hunter in Darkness, Wolverine in WW2 and Doolin
Wolverine- #102- possibly one of the best Wolverine stories ever, Logan does not speak. Hama's last issue on Wolverine.
Wolverine/Kitty Pryde mini 1-6
Uncanny X-men #205- Wolverine loses his humanity when fighting the new Deathstrike and Reavers
Origin mini 1-6
Days of the Future Past
What If Wolverine vs Weapon X
What If Wolverine became Lord of the Vampires
X-men/Wildcats Golden Age- Wolverine in WW2
Uncanny X-men #251-253- Wolverine is crucifed and is the last X-men still active
Uncanny X-men#256-258- Wolverine, Jubille, Psylocke vs Mandirin
Uncanny X-men- #268- Logan and Captin America vs nazi's, Black Widow makes a cameo in WW2
Uncanny X-men- The Brood storyline- Wolverine against all the Brood with his teammates on the brink of becoming the Brood.
Wolverine Annual 95- Wolverine vs the Nigari, sets in motion for X-men #75
Wolverine vs the Hellfire Club
Marvel Comics Presents Wolverine vs Cyber
Uncanny X-men #235-238- Wolverine dying with Carol Danvers
Wolverine #32 vol.2- Wolverine in WW2 in a nazi concentration camp never dying. Awesome story, best out of the entire new series

This is only some of his best stories, there are plenty more.

[Hombre]

I love Wolverine probobly more than most so it just makes me sad to think some of the ones named are being considered his best by people on this board. What a shame because some of the stuff is nothing great.



Seems like a lot of what you included is Wolverine as Claremont saw him. I and plenty of others seem to agree with that.

The shame is how much the character's strayed from his and Hama's stories over the years.

[THANOS/WOLVERINE]

Seems like a lot of what you included is Wolverine as Claremont saw him. I and plenty of others seem to agree with that.

The shame is how much the character's strayed from his and Hama's stories over the years.


I agree, Hama had him down perfect. Clarment also. Its just to bad we never got to see the real version of Wolverine: Agent of the Hand like Clarment wanted. WOuld have been so much better than Millers crap pile. In that storyline Wolverine killed only D list hero's and villians. Wow, what a great acheivment.

[fishtaco]

Alpha Flight (1st Series) #'s 33-34.
Havok and Wolverine: Meltdown
Kitty Pryde and Wolverine #'s 1-6.
Marvel Comics Presents #'s 1-10.
Marvel Comics Presents #'s 72-84.
Uncanny X-Men #'s 120-121.
Uncanny X-Men #'s 139-140.
Uncanny X-Men #'s 172-173.
Uncanny X-Men #205.
Uncanny X-Men #'s 215-216.
Uncanny X-Men #'s 235-238.
Uncanny X-Men #'s 256-258.
Uncanny X-Men #261.
Uncanny X-Men #268.
Uncanny X-Men Annual (1st Series) #11.
Wolverine (1st Series) #'s 1-4.
Wolverine (2nd Series) #10.
Wolverine (2nd Series) #'s 11-16.
Wolverine (2nd Series) #'s 17-23.
Wolverine (2nd Series) #'s 125-128.
Wolverine: Jungle Adventure
X-Men: True Friends #'s 1-3.

:) :) :)

[Huzzah!]

He killed off the Gorgon.


Pff. thats a villain. Those are easy to kill off. Kill of a hero you put a lot of time developing, then ill give you some props

Or just kill Hisako and Kate Bishop..


Really that would be fine for me

[Will.S]

Wolverine: Rahne of Terra.
That's actually another very good one by Peter David.

Very dark art by Andy Kubert but good stuff. I actually would like to check out Meltdown but Muth's art looks very odd at times.

[DDM]

Punisher War Journal #6-7 (1988) by Carl Potts & Jim Lee is a good story because the Punisher battles Wolverine for the first time:

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[Huzzah!]

I dont think there can be a 2 part saga

[Young Avenger]

Ultimate Wolverine vs Hulk is pretty good. That's if you don't mind delays.

[Dizzy D]

The Geihina Stone arc,it was good.But mostly any Wolverine story by Chris Claremont or Larry Hama is good.Yes..Wolverine is not what he usto be..

Eh, Hama has some really bad stories near the end of his run. About the Phalanx Covenant and onward is pretty awful. And he has some dips in the beginning. I have the feeling that Hama and Claremont both need an artist they have synergy with. In Hama's case a young Silvestri, Texeira or Yu. Anthony Winn also worked well with him, wonder what ever happened to him.

From the ones not mentioned yet:
The Wolverine/Nick Fury crossovers are generally good.

Of Rucka's run, issues #1 and 6 are some good character studies of Wolverine, #1 from the viewpoint of a stranger. #2-5 could have been told in 1-2 issues though and would made the storyline overall better.

And if you want to do intercompany crossovers, Deathblow/Wolverine is good as well.

For those who asked, Warren Ellis' Not Dead Yet was issues 119-122 and Skroce was 150-153 (sad that that run didn't last longer). Frank Tieri has some good issues in his run, but he has ups and downs accross the line. Avoid Matt Nixon's issues like the plague though.

[Herald of Asgard]

Well, I really enjoyed Fatal Attractions, but they screwed that story all to hell...shame too, the best thing they ever did to breathe new life into Wolvie, they end up retconing...damn shame.

[Marty4Magik]

For those who asked, Warren Ellis' Not Dead Yet was issues 119-122 and Skroce was 150-153
Agreed, two great tales.
Especially the one by Skroce was awesome. I was at the point of dropping the title, but Skroce made me put that on hold for a few months.

[Porcelain]

Well, I really enjoyed Fatal Attractions, but they screwed that story all to hell...shame too, the best thing they ever did to breathe new life into Wolvie, they end up retconing...damn shame.
Ditto that's when I first started reading, and it was my first 'big' story - really hit home. When he started going all feral and beast like it became abismal.

[20yrslater]

It wasn't really a mini arc. It was a single issue.
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/97792366288.183.gif

I think that was the culmination of a sub-story that ran through several issues.