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the film freak
05-21-2006, 09:16 PM
With the folks on the Batman board constantly posting "Who should play Joker" I figure it'd be nice to have a "Who should play Brainiac?" thread if Warner Bros and Brian Singer decides to make a Superman Returns sequel.
My pick: Singers original choice for Perry White and Dr. House himself... Hugh Laurie. He can play cold and calculating pretty well.
Ontir
05-22-2006, 12:09 AM
Jeremy Davies (Solaris) would give him a creepy, alien feel. Plus I like the idea of him being kind of wirey, as opposed to the bulkier look of the Man of Steel.
Love Machine
05-22-2006, 05:39 PM
why go with Brainiac? Darksied, Zod or Doomsday would make much better movie villians....
Gernot
05-22-2006, 06:04 PM
Zod's been done (though I WOULD like to see him used in a later sequel), Darkseid's not too well known with the public (though he WOULD be good to use later, too), and Doomsday should be used in about the 4th or 5th movie, if at all.
Brainiac is well known to the public thanks to his appearances in the 1960's Filmation cartoons, and SuperFriends, plus he also has had better selling toys, thanks to SuperPowers.
All that said, I'll leave it to you guys! I don't know enough about the current crop of actors, but I'd probably go with an unknown. ;)
Haunt
05-22-2006, 07:50 PM
Hugo Weaving, maybe. just need someone odd looking with a bulbous head or, otherwise, "intellectual" look.
NotSuper
05-22-2006, 11:07 PM
Hugo Weaving, maybe. just need someone odd looking with a bulbous head or, otherwise, "intellectual" look.
I agree. We already know he can play an unemotional, unstoppible bad guy too. Plus, he was even in a recent DC/Vertigo film.
NotSuper
05-22-2006, 11:09 PM
why go with Brainiac? Darksied, Zod or Doomsday would make much better movie villians....
Zod's been done before so I doubt they'll go back to him. The only reason Lex is in the new film is because he's Superman's number one villain. Darkseid would require the whole New Gods backstory so that would be a no-go. As for Doomsday, he's a walking plot device and would be a bad choice even for a minor movie villain.
I think Brainiac would be the next best choice. He's always been the number two Superman villain and has never been done on film before.
Ontir
05-23-2006, 12:03 AM
How about the guy who played "Pin-Head" in the Hellraiser movies?
I still like Jeremy Davies, though.
NotSuper
05-23-2006, 01:51 AM
You know, the people making the next movie (assuming Brainiac is in it) might just decide to make him fully CGI with a human voice. After all, there are many different portrayals of Brainiac.
I hope they go with something similar to the animated series version.
ShadowSonic
05-23-2006, 09:04 AM
Either make him CGI and have Corey Burton do the voice, or get Brent Spiner to do him.
LordEd1976
05-23-2006, 11:58 AM
Either make him CGI and have Corey Burton do the voice, or get Brent Spiner to do him.
Funny you should mention Data. I always thought Patrick stewart woudl make a good Brainiac. Hugo weaving also works well.
CGI body. "Voice" by Jeremy Irons ("Scar" from the Lion King, for you youngsters that don't know Brideshead Revisited), but with all his dialogue assembled from a "bank" of words and phrases, like how Stephen Hawking talks.
You've gotta admit, it would be surreal.
Astonishing X-Fan
05-23-2006, 01:07 PM
Heh, that's funny...I just watched The Lion King yesterday. I can see Irons.
But I'll have to go with a CG robotic Brainiac, with Corey Burton as the voice. He's just so perfect for it.
Joe Rice
05-23-2006, 01:11 PM
Ugh, no CG, please. I hate that stuff when it tries to reproduce actual living things. Let me think on this. Guy Pierce is pretty cold and intense at times. Hm. I want someone with a good jawline, piercing eyes, and some strong chops.
ChrisIII
05-23-2006, 01:14 PM
The Skeletal Brainiac might look cool, but I think if they did do the CG route that there'd be comparisons to the Terminator and General Grevious, both of whom resemble the Perez Brainiac.
It's not CGI trying to make it look like a living thing, it's trying to make it look like a robot, which isn't a living thing. ^_~
That said... Hmmm... I take it back. I want the voice that way, but not the CGI (maybe just a smidge to tweak things).
But Brainiac... I'd go with an actual, physical, reach out and touch it hunk of hydraulics, like we got in Judge Dredd.
http://www.members.tripod.com/~Johnnyrum/abccombatrobot.jpg
http://www.btinternet.com/~vizimbi/images/acbRobot.gif
Just picture some slightly smaller and more humanoid robot unfolding into something in between the skeleton Brainiac and the metal monstrosity in those images, accompanied by the cultured intellectual voice of Jeremy Irons, the three Brainiac "dots" pulsing menacingly on his forehead with each word.
NotSuper
05-23-2006, 03:25 PM
Funny you should mention Data. I always thought Patrick stewart would make a good Brainiac. Hugo weaving also works well.
Say, that's a good idea. Plus, he's been in two super-hero movies with Singer before.
Mike Smith
05-23-2006, 04:43 PM
Christopher Walken must play Brainiac.
the film freak
05-23-2006, 06:50 PM
Ugh, no CG, please. I hate that stuff when it tries to reproduce actual living things. Let me think on this. Guy Pierce is pretty cold and intense at times. Hm. I want someone with a good jawline, piercing eyes, and some strong chops.
I'd prefer a puppet Brainiac.
And Rupert Everett can do the voice. A gay, British, robot puppet Brainiac.
NotSuper
05-23-2006, 07:26 PM
I'd prefer a puppet Brainiac.
And Rupert Everett can do the voice. A gay, British, robot puppet Brainiac.
Would he enjoy fighting polar bears?
the film freak
05-23-2006, 10:59 PM
Would he enjoy fighting polar bears?
You're thinking of L-Ron Brainiac's gay african american robot sidekick.
NotSuper
05-24-2006, 12:20 AM
You're thinking of L-Ron Brainiac's gay african american robot sidekick.
If they tried that today then Scientologists might sue the film. ;)
Ontir
05-24-2006, 01:08 AM
Patrick Stewart, along with Pierce Brosnan were the two names I heard bandied about for the aborted Kevin Smith re-written/Tim Burton directed/Nicholas Cage starring film. While I think either is capable, I wouldn't want to see Stewart in the part, specifically because he's been "Prof. X" for three films. He's THAT charater, I'd like to see someone else. Plus I'd like to see a little out-of-the-box thinking here. He needn't BE a bald guy, to play the part. I'm still stumping for Jeremy Davies, who I believe could create a truly disturbing and alien presence. Put him in green make-up, and a skull appliance with green screen spots which can be CGI'd as inputs to connect the cyborg to the cybernetic death's-head starship. I'd also update, and expand upon the Bottle City of Kandor idea. What it was about, why he absconded with the city - which would be the reason he's now come to Earth - for Superman!
Kara Zor El
05-24-2006, 05:56 PM
Brainiac won't work in the style of movie the current Superman is. So I very much doubt he'll arive on our screens.
They'll either come up with something new.
Or go with a terrestrial based supervillian like Metallo, parrasite, or Magog.
Unless they make Brainiac terrestrial.
Mr. Croup
05-25-2006, 09:04 PM
Do him CGI, and have Clancy Brown be the voice.
lonewolf23k
05-25-2006, 09:10 PM
Hmm.. Why limit Brainiac to one body? He's a computer, after all, why not have him be a disembodied intelligence who uses robotic bodies to "interface" with the real world, like in the cartoon?
You could get an actor in make-up to play the "humanoid" Brainiac, and have the skeletal robot Brainiac be a CGI "combat form" he uses for his climactic battle against Superman..
Haunt
05-25-2006, 10:10 PM
I'd prefer a puppet Brainiac.
http://muppet.wikia.com/images/9/92/Bunsen.jpg
:confused:
Kara Zor El
05-26-2006, 05:03 AM
http://muppet.wikia.com/images/9/92/Bunsen.jpg
:confused:
Tee hee!!!!
Effect
05-26-2006, 08:24 AM
While on the subject, what do you guys think of the Smallville Brainiac done by James Masters?
Granted it isn't the original version in that he is more T1000ish but wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the new season he ends up as he's orgininally suppose to appear. Think he's doing a good job tormenting Clark the way he's done and tying him to Zod was a nice as well.
Kara Zor El
05-27-2006, 04:57 AM
Do you have a picture of him?
botch
05-28-2006, 06:59 PM
James Marsters. This was a more serious Brainiac with some actual intentions rather than the brainiac of the comics who had just about no purpose.
The thing is most of you guys are geeks and want the cheesy green skinned version with diodes. Sometimes thing should be changed since the creators didn't have a good enough imagination when they created these things.
NotSuper
05-28-2006, 08:40 PM
While on the subject, what do you guys think of the Smallville Brainiac done by James Masters?
Granted it isn't the original version in that he is more T1000ish but wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the new season he ends up as he's orgininally suppose to appear. Think he's doing a good job tormenting Clark the way he's done and tying him to Zod was a nice as well.
I don't like the fact that he has Kryptonian powers. He's supposed to be a machine, not a biological being like a Kryptonian.
the film freak
05-28-2006, 10:31 PM
Brainiac won't work in the style of movie the current Superman is. So I very much doubt he'll arive on our screens.
They'll either come up with something new.
Or go with a terrestrial based supervillian like Metallo, parrasite, or Magog.
Unless they make Brainiac terrestrial.
The new Superman movie is far from terrestial. Superman travels through space and Lex uses Kryptonian technology. Brainiac could easily fit in.
Personally I'd want to see the supercomputer Brainiac from the cartoon. Hands down the best Brainiac.
NotSuper
05-28-2006, 11:31 PM
The new Superman movie is far from terrestial. Superman sppace travels and Lex use Kryptonian technology. Brainiac could easily fit in.
Indeed. Lex is going to use the K-tech to create entire continents on Earth--that's much grander than any other movie super-villain.
As for Brainiac, he could easily work if they give him the animated origin. They could introduce a retcon that reveals Brainiac as the reason the Kryptonians didn't believe Jor-El.
stealthwise
05-29-2006, 12:54 AM
Ugh, no CG, please. I hate that stuff when it tries to reproduce actual living things. Let me think on this. Guy Pierce is pretty cold and intense at times. Hm. I want someone with a good jawline, piercing eyes, and some strong chops.
Hell yeah! But I'd prefer to see him play Two-Face in the Batman Begins trilogy.
Catman
05-29-2006, 07:54 AM
Hell yeah! But I'd prefer to see him play Two-Face in the Batman Begins trilogy.
I will agree with you on that one.
Kara Zor El
05-29-2006, 08:21 AM
The new Superman movie is far from terrestial. Superman travels through space and Lex uses Kryptonian technology. Brainiac could easily fit in.
Personally I'd want to see the supercomputer Brainiac from the cartoon. Hands down the best Brainiac.
The reason why I said make Brainiac Earth based was because his origional origin brings in another alien world besides Krypton and that's hard to pull off credibly. But if they go for the animated version then that would easily work.
But then I prefer the Eradicator over a Kryptonian Brainiac.
the film freak
05-29-2006, 12:24 PM
The reason why I said make Brainiac Earth based was because his origional origin brings in another alien world besides Krypton and that's hard to pull off credibly. But if they go for the animated version then that would easily work.
But then I prefer the Eradicator over a Kryptonian Brainiac.
Actually I think it would be a bigger lapse in credibility if Brainiac came from Krypton. The universe is a big place why does everything in the movie have to come from Krypton or Metropolis.
PatrickG
05-29-2006, 12:54 PM
My take on Brainiac is a unique one. I think he should be a Shakespearian heavy, whoever plays him, not an unemotional machine. He should be more like Magneto from the X-films than Hal from 2001. Give him an emotional performance. Give him a solid actor. Save the CG robot body for the climax of the film.
Just because he's a machine doesn't mean he should be a droning robot who exists to exterminate organic life. I would much rather see him as a machine who savors the taste of wine, who lusts for knowledge. He should be charismatic, not mechanical.
Visually, I'd reference the "Panic in the Sky" model. Textually, I'd draw from all eras but most heavily from his pre-robot appearances in the 60s where he's an alien trying to save his homeworld. Of course, he WOULD be a robot but he would be a sophisticated robot with emotions.
And taking a cue from how villains are handled in the X-movies, I would make Lobo his loose cannon enforcer and Mongul his scheming, sadistic right-hand man.
Off the top of my head...
Ron Perlman or Michael Dorn as Mongul. Jude Law as Lobo, taking a cue from his Captain Jack persona... played to the hilt. Phillip Seymour Hoffman as Brainiac.
This upcoming movie plays with the Kryptonian angle alot and the "are we alone?" angle. I think it would actually work naturally for the sequel to feature Superman fighting other aliens, if the stakes and dramatic structure warrant it.
Kara Zor El
05-29-2006, 01:07 PM
Actually I think it would be a bigger lapse in credibility if Brainiac came from Krypton. The universe is a big place why does everything in the movie have to come from Krypton or Metropolis.
Because for me a superman Movie shouldn't be Science Fiction but fantasy. The threats he comes up against from Earth. Once you start having aliens then it's a stretch to have Kryptonians the same as us to look at and then to have another alien from somewhere else humanoid too is not good science fiction.
So If they do Brainiac and he's from some far of planet then I think it would be more believable to have him very alein indeed. Not humanoid at all. Really go to town on the imagining of a space computor monster.
the film freak
05-29-2006, 02:23 PM
Because for me a superman Movie shouldn't be Science Fiction but fantasy. The threats he comes up against from Earth. Once you start having aliens then it's a stretch to have Kryptonians the same as us to look at and then to have another alien from somewhere else humanoid too is not good science fiction.
So If they do Brainiac and he's from some far of planet then I think it would be more believable to have him very alein indeed. Not humanoid at all. Really go to town on the imagining of a space computor monster.
I think you're contradicting yourself.
Various unrelated humonoid aliens are common in science fiction and fantasy. Star Wars (which leans more towards fantasy) had them, Star Trek had them, Farscape had them, etc etc. The average movie goer is used to seeing a variety of humonid aliens. It's nothing new.
Plus nowhere I said Brainiac had to be humanoid. If it was a robot skeleton Brainiac that'd be pretty cool. It's could be a shapeshifting Brainiac like from Smallville. Heck he could a HAL like Supercomputer like in the Superman cartoon pilot.
The Brainiac concept is pretty flexiable. His definitive traits basically include really smart, likes to collect things (be it knowledge, shrunken cities or whatever) and he's from outer space. It's probably why he's lasted so long as a villan.
Kara Zor El
05-29-2006, 04:14 PM
I think you're contradicting yourself.
Various unrelated humonoid aliens are common in science fiction and fantasy. Star Wars (which leans more towards fantasy) had them, Star Trek had them, Farscape had them, etc etc. The average movie goer is used to seeing a variety of humonid aliens. It's nothing new.
Plus nowhere I said Brainiac had to be humanoid. If it was a robot skeleton Brainiac that'd be pretty cool. It's could be a shapeshifting Brainiac like from Smallville. Heck he could a HAL like Supercomputer like in the Superman cartoon pilot.
The Brainiac concept is pretty flexiable. His definitive traits basically include really smart, likes to collect things (be it knowledge, shrunken cities or whatever) and he's from outer space. It's probably why he's lasted so long as a villan.
I don't think I'm contradicting myself. I said what I'd prefer and then spoke of a compromise.
Humanoid aliens are common in science fiction you're right but I've always been very dissapointed in them on the whole. I like some of the shows you mention, like Star Trek because I'm a Sci fi nut and had to make do. But I'd have enjoyed those shows more if the aliens were more alien and didn't speak english and all that crap.
And i never said that you didn't want a non humanoid Brainiac. I just said what I'd like to see if Brainiac was done and was from another world other than Krypton or Earth.
I'll bet they don't do Brainiac. The name alone won't work in a modern movie.
the film freak
05-29-2006, 04:32 PM
I don't think I'm contradicting myself. I said what I'd prefer and then spoke of a compromise.
Humanoid aliens are common in science fiction you're right but I've always been very dissapointed in them on the whole. I like some of the shows you mention, like Star Trek because I'm a Sci fi nut and had to make do. But I'd have enjoyed those shows more if the aliens were more alien and didn't speak english and all that crap.
That's just you though. Not the audience as the whole. Most people don't mind. If they did they wouldn't be watching Star Wars or Star Trek or whatever sci fi series that has humanoid aliens. Heck even X-Files had humonoid aliens (bipedal, two eyes, nose).
I think humanoid aliens are used because people can relate more and take them seriously. I guess they could use a green cloud monster like they used in Star Trek a couple times or something more abstract. I remember Marlon Brando wanted Jor El to look like a floating bagel. I don't think bagel Jor El would have generated as much gravitas. Even the most alien looking characters in sci fi have some human characteristics. Yoda basically looks like a little green Japanese guy with big ears.
I'll bet they don't do Brainiac. The name alone won't work in a modern movie.
Brainiac doesn't sound any lamer then Magneto, Scarecrow, Doc Ock, Green Goblin, Juggernaut, Sabretooth or Cyclops. And those movies strive for more of a realistic atomosphere then Superman does.
Brainiac's real name in the comics is Vril Dox which is much more alien sounding. Someone else can call him Brainiac like Lex or Lois.
PatrickG
05-29-2006, 04:49 PM
Movie Lex is perfectly suited to coining the name "Brainiac".
lonewolf23k
05-29-2006, 06:56 PM
Movie Lex is perfectly suited to coining the name "Brainiac".
Heck, using Lex, you could have a very good reason to include Brainiac to begin with.. Consider..
Still stewing over his defeat in the latest movie, Lex decides that if he can't exploit Superman's K-Tech, then he'll find his own Alien ally with technology to exploit. So he hacks into the SETI program and, with his genius, does what nobody else could: he contacts an alien intelligence and invites it to Earth.
Now, this alien intelligence, which calls itself Vril Dox, is very alien in appearance indeed, a disembodied artificial intelligence in a metallic casing resembling the classic "Brainiac Skull Ship" form, only smaller. Due to it's superb intellect, Lex calls it Brainiac, and he tells it about the last son of Krypton, which naturally intrigues the alien.
It would make for a good visual if, over the course of the movie, Brainiac would "evolve" from skull-ship to skeleton robot to a more human-like form..
Ontir
05-29-2006, 10:36 PM
Brainiac won't work in the style of movie the current Superman is. So I very much doubt he'll arive on our screens.
Based upon what?!?:rolleyes:
I'd play him as a cyborg, charged with collecting endangered specimens, as he did on Krypton, with Kandor. This, of course, has the potential to raise some questions, as Krypton didn't appear to be endangered when he collected the city. His motivation, in coming to Earth, is to collect Superman, a stray from his collection. Superman, having liberated Kandor from Brainiac's control, sets up a reason for him to return. He wouldn't be an emotionless machine, he'd be someone very driven, kind of enigmatic, terribly powerful, and more than a little creepy. He'd also be from Colu. There's no reason, especially since Singer's involoved more space travel in this new film, that Superman can't deal with more extra-terrestrials in future films.
Bishop_Proudstar
05-29-2006, 10:44 PM
I believe that WB/DC will push for "The World's Finest" Cross-over film (depending on how well The Superman films does..).
If it blows "X3' out of the water.. They will continue with Batman and Superman sequels seperately..
(Let's face it...It's a "legacy franchise", and a re-launch. Curiousity about how they compare to the first films will get them alot of profits).
The Batman crew aren't even in pre-production yet... They don't have a Joker..
I think they do the joint venture to out-do the coming release of "Spiderman 3".
Thats my opinion, and not fact.
Bishop_Proudstar
05-29-2006, 10:51 PM
Superman II (vol. 2)... (If they do not film "World's Finest/Superman vs. Batman")
Luthor
Toyman
Metallo (who was popular in the recent Superman cartoon...and if Lex doesn't don his own green kryptonite armor in these films)
Ontir
05-29-2006, 10:55 PM
From what Nolan said, the next Batman film is going to have a villain that's not been used in a previous film, which eliminates the Joker, and that film's been green-lighted already. I wouldn't be surprised to see a "World's Finest" film @ some point, but it'll be in addition to the two properties moving forward separately. After they get "Wonder Woman" off the ground, I'd like to see a "Trinity" movie of some sort.
As for who should play Brainiac, my first choice is Jeremy Davies, but given the financial issues of "local hires," and probably requirements for a certain number of Aussies to be cast, as well as Singer's like of working with people again, I think Hugh Jackman would be a good and likely choice!
Bishop_Proudstar
05-29-2006, 11:19 PM
From what Nolan said, the next Batman film is going to have a villain that's not been used in a previous film, which eliminates the Joker, and that film's been green-lighted already. I wouldn't be surprised to see a "World's Finest" film @ some point, but it'll be in addition to the two properties moving forward separately. After they get "Wonder Woman" off the ground, I'd like to see a "Trinity" movie of some sort.
As for who should play Brainiac, my first choice is Jeremy Davies, but given the financial issues of "local hires," and probably requirements for a certain number of Aussies to be cast, as well as Singer's like of working with people again, I think Hugh Jackman would be a good and likely choice!
No way Fox/Marvel allows Jackman to appear on any Superman film..
Singer snatched the actor who portrays "Cyclops" away near the pre-production phases of "X3". It won't happen again..
I wouldn't be shocked if they've already stopped the plans "007"..They signed him to this new deal around the time those rumors began..
Ontir
05-29-2006, 11:23 PM
Who's to say Fox has any say in what he does, so long as he's not signed to a "Wolverine" movie, which they've talked about, but I don't know that anything's been signed. IIRC, he was signed for 3 movies, which he's done!
I don't know what the last line means. Casino Royale, the new "Bond" film is on its way (I saw the trailer yesterday.) it stars Daniel Craig as "007."
Bishop_Proudstar
05-29-2006, 11:38 PM
Who's to say Fox has any say in what he does, so long as he's not signed to a "Wolverine" movie, which they've talked about, but I don't know that anything's been signed. IIRC, he was signed for 3 movies, which he's done!
I don't know what the last line means. Casino Royale, the new "Bond" film is on its way (I saw the trailer yesterday.) it stars Daniel Craig as "007."
he's signed as a one of the producers of "X3"... So, I'd assume he's the primary producer of "Wolverine". He's even mentioned that he is working with a writer to create the script.
I'm not saying he won't be able to star in any films by Warner Brohers films, just never "Superman", "Batman", and "Wonder Woman"..
If they didn't place "blocks" from those films in his new contract, Fox/Marvel would be making a stupid mistake..
I believe that they have stipulations that will keep Jackman away from these franchises..
Ontir
05-29-2006, 11:41 PM
Maybe. We'll see.
Kara Zor El
05-30-2006, 04:03 PM
Based upon what?!?:rolleyes:
Intuition. Nothing more. I should have said that I don't think it Brainiac will work rather than Brainiac won't work.
But I'll have you a wager right here and now that Brainiac as space alien will not be in Superman Returns 2.
I'd play him as a cyborg, charged with collecting endangered specimens, as he did on Krypton, with Kandor. This, of course, has the potential to raise some questions, as Krypton didn't appear to be endangered when he collected the city. His motivation, in coming to Earth, is to collect Superman, a stray from his collection. Superman, having liberated Kandor from Brainiac's control, sets up a reason for him to return. He wouldn't be an emotionless machine, he'd be someone very driven, kind of enigmatic, terribly powerful, and more than a little creepy. He'd also be from Colu. There's no reason, especially since Singer's involoved more space travel in this new film, that Superman can't deal with more extra-terrestrials in future films.
Haunt
05-30-2006, 04:17 PM
From what Nolan said, the next Batman film is going to have a villain that's not been used in a previous film, which eliminates the Joker, and that film's been green-lighted already.
that doesn't eliminate the Joker. it just means that there will be more than one villain ex. Black Mask and the Joker.
As for who should play Brainiac, my first choice is Jeremy Davies, but given the financial issues of "local hires," and probably requirements for a certain number of Aussies to be cast, as well as Singer's like of working with people again, I think Hugh Jackman would be a good and likely choice!
Hugo Weaving
Ontir
05-30-2006, 11:21 PM
A clarification, he said the film wouldn't feture a villain who's been in a previous film.
Ontir
05-30-2006, 11:24 PM
Kara,
I still can't imagine what, in a film about a guy from another planet, who's just returned to Earth, from a comicbook in which aliens are comonplace, would lead you to make such an assumption.
I don't know who WILL be the next villain, but Brainiac was meant to be the villain in the Salkind produced Superman V many years ago, and if Singer does anything form film to film, he ups the ante.
Kara Zor El
05-31-2006, 01:00 PM
Kara,
I still can't imagine what, in a film about a guy from another planet, who's just returned to Earth, from a comicbook in which aliens are comonplace, would lead you to make such an assumption.
I don't know who WILL be the next villain, but Brainiac was meant to be the villain in the Salkind produced Superman V many years ago, and if Singer does anything form film to film, he ups the ante.
I understand your confusion with what I'm saying.
I don't want to get bogged down with this because if you don't see it, you don't see it.
Krypton works even though it shouldn't because the people are just like us and so you don't have to create an alien race that is completely different and believable, which is hard to pull off. I know Superman is an alien, and so why should it bother me that other different aliens turn up so he can battle them but it just does for me and I think a lot of other people too. Superman is at his best when he's stopping lava flows and diverting hurricanes. If I want alien monster machines, I'll go see War of the Worlds. With a Superman Movie I want realism. I want the stiories to be human, emotional, thought provoking. The best bit about Superman 4 was Superman forcably destroying all the Worlds Nukes against the wishes of their owners. I loved that concept, the worst bit is Nuclear Man. Once we are off Kryptoon in the first movie its all about his interaction with our world. It's arguably the best of the four movies, and yet he never even fights anybody.
If Brainiac turns up it's just another version of the alien invasion story but this time instead of dieing of germs or Will Smith they die of Superman.
I just think it would be hard to pull off without being cheesey and you could wreck the whole thing, and they will fear that. That's why if they do Brainiac I think he'll either be a creation of Earth or Krypton.
A lot of women, unlike me, are turned off by aliens and robots but can buy into Superman because he so human and when he's up against the world he lives in they can follow it happilly. I know my girlfriend won't want to go and see Brainiac but she'll want to see Lex Luthor.
Ontir
05-31-2006, 01:20 PM
I think you're in the minority on this one. I don't want a Superman movie to be Lassie's Rescue Rangers I want him to battle powerful, bad-ass villains who show how super he is. With a plethora of comic book movies, Superman has to be the biggest, toughest of all, because that's who he is. People have no problem dealing with Spock and Vulcan, or Chewbacca and Wookies, or even Jabba the Hutt. You don't have to introduce an entire world, to make Brainiac an extra-terrestrial. HE has to be alien, and his ship needs to be noticeably different from Kryptonese technology, so it conveys a different point of origin. That's not so tough, it's done in film and TV all the time.
Kara Zor El
05-31-2006, 04:11 PM
I think you're in the minority on this one. I don't want a Superman movie to be Lassie's Rescue Rangers I want him to battle powerful, bad-ass villains who show how super he is. With a plethora of comic book movies, Superman has to be the biggest, toughest of all, because that's who he is. People have no problem dealing with Spock and Vulcan, or Chewbacca and Wookies, or even Jabba the Hutt. You don't have to introduce an entire world, to make Brainiac an extra-terrestrial. HE has to be alien, and his ship needs to be noticeably different from Kryptonese technology, so it conveys a different point of origin. That's not so tough, it's done in film and TV all the time.
I'm in a minority? You're probably right when it comes to comic fans. But otherwise I'm not so sure.
Bet it doesn't happen though. So lets leave it here and when part 2 comes out, if there is an extraterestrial Brainiac you can lourde it over me deservedly so. Deal?
Ontir
05-31-2006, 06:38 PM
Of the people who are now, prior to June 30th, looking forward to who the villain is going to be in the NEXT film, I believe you to be in a minority. Of people who's worlds would be rocked if Superman fought an extra-terrestrial, I believe you to be in a minority, and (and I mean this in the friendliest possible way) your opinion on the subject is truly "alien" and incomprehensible to me, which is why I continue to respond, I guess. That said, I try not to be the lourding type. I might not always succeed, but I do try!:D
BTW, I like your "tanning lotion," "Little Annie Fannie" Supergirl icon!
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