Quasar... Let's make a book.

[aniscape]

Hello all cosmic true believers!

I think Annihilation is a great starting block to get the "Cosmic" back into Marvel. I have been away from comics for about 4-5 years for one reason or another. I am a father of 2 wonderful children a 4 year old boy (that thinks Quasar is as cool as i think he is) and darling 2 and a half year old girl. I wasn't planning on picking up any more comics for a while but I found my way into a comic store and saw the last page of Nova 2 with Quasar's bio and well... here I am today. In a matter of 2 days my heart went on a little roller coaster ride with the thrill of a possible future of Quasar making a come back and hopes shattered with the cover to Annihilation 1 and the blurb that 2 hereos died. So I searched the web for as much info as i possible could and found this site and a post with the cover to Annihilation 2 and Quasar on it. Before my research I thought i was the only one that truly cared about what happened to Marvel's Cosmic Avenger but luckily this site has proved me wrong with a buch of you having the same hopes that Quasar will find his way back into the Marvel frontline and stop warming the bench.

All this leads me to this thread which I presume fits right into what Annihilation is all about... Bringing our beloved cosmic characters into the limelight for all to see how wonderful it is to be Cosmic!

I would like to start this by putting in my 2 cents of what I think has gone wrong with Quasar in Marvel and what I beleive would correct and reastablish Quasar as dominant force for Marvel. I can't do this task alone so I am asking for all you out there with like minded ideas of what you think would work to make this a reality. Let's get started!

My first concern is first impressions. Everytime we see Quasar guest appear anywhere he is so underutilized that instead of me being excited I always come out thinking "what is Marvel trying to sink this character into obscurity?" If you are reading this then you know Quasar's past if you do not I hope to open it up throughout the posts in this thread.

Another item to discuss is Art! No matter how good the story is if the art isn't there then outside of the faithfull you will get nothing. Quasar needs to be drawn with some finess. I stumbled apun this site: http://www.baldguystudios.com/PIN-UPHTML/Quasar.html when searching for info on Quasar and I think his style is what Quasar needs to have to not only show his soft side which is all that seems to have been shown lately but also give the character a healthy appearance. And yes we need to get rid of the mullet. either all long (which I prefer or decent haircut).

This post is lengthy enough to start I will continue to add my opinions and hope you all join in as well. Together maybe we con show Marvel what we would like to see and hope that they here at least a little bit.

Side Note: Quasar is one of my favorite Characters which is why I want this thread to focus on him. I know everyone has thier favorites they would like to see on an ongoing series I would urge you to do the same by creating an ongoing series wishlist for a specific character. Marvel I have faith and hopes you do us Cosmic fans proud!

[ColdFury]

I picked up a couple of Quasar backissues the other day to fill a hole in my collection, and one thing that struck me was how much Quasar expositioned during his fights and monologues. Constantly. It really was written in a style that is very jarring from today. And it gave the book a campy feel that probably wouldn't play too well with today's crowd.

So that's one negative to a character whose powers are science based... Wolverine doesn't have to explain to the reader how his claws can cut through his enemies bones, but Quasar has to explain why his bands can manipulate the E-M spectrum.

But Quasar is also my bar-none favorite superhero, and I truly hope he survives Annhilation alive and prepared to be reused.

And if, say... Cammi gets the bands in the event of Q-Ball's death? I will be upset.

Meh.

[Ravenheart]

I have the entire run of his old series and it was always pretty good.I wouldn't mind seeing him come back in a new one.

[aniscape]

I picked up a couple of Quasar backissues the other day to fill a hole in my collection, and one thing that struck me was how much Quasar expositioned during his fights and monologues. Constantly. It really was written in a style that is very jarring from today. And it gave the book a campy feel that probably wouldn't play too well with today's crowd.

So that's one negative to a character whose powers are science based... Wolverine doesn't have to explain to the reader how his claws can cut through his enemies bones, but Quasar has to explain why his bands can manipulate the E-M spectrum.

But Quasar is also my bar-none favorite superhero, and I truly hope he survives Annhilation alive and prepared to be reused.

And if, say... Cammi gets the bands in the event of Q-Ball's death? I will be upset.

Meh.


Good point ColdFury! I think having something akin to what they are doing with Annihilation Worldmind Database at the end of Quasar's book. They should have "Epoch's Corner" or something (I am not good with names) where anything that happened in the book could be explained scientifically if need be or just info on the character and locales. If done right it could work especially since Epoch with be learning right along with us (Being just born a few years ago) Epoch should be brought out a little more too since he is the one with Cosmic Awareness and not Quasar kind of like eon was but just learning the ropes type of thing where it would take longer for Epoch to get the info Quasar needs. Could cause some narrowing escapes or victories :)

Also from reading around these boards it seems that not everyone has a good grasp of who Quasar really is, What does his station really signify, how powerful is he and/or how powerful could he possibly get if he learned to harness it more effectively.

I posted on another thread that he is what Captain Mar-vel should have been if he got the Quantum Bands instead of Marvel Boy. So I think Marvel needs to understand his importance and start writing him more seriously and really show people that he can become something that even Mar-vel would be proud!

I know you all got great ideas let's get them out :)

[Dark Soul # 7]

I never read the Quasar monthly, wasn't old enough, but I'm interested in the character.

Tell me what is it that is special about his personality. What are his likes, dislikes, flaws, strengths etc?

[Haunt]

i don't like his look. he looks like the nuclear man from the Superman movies.

[Will.S]

i don't like his look. he looks like the nuclear man from the Superman movies.
You know, hilariously I've never thought of it that way.

[aniscape]

i don't like his look. he looks like the nuclear man from the Superman movies.


Haha... you know his face in the Nova 3 cover kinda looks like but the rest well... you be the judge http://www.polarblairsden.com/superherosuperman401.jpg

that was a good laugh though :)

[aniscape]

I never read the Quasar monthly, wasn't old enough, but I'm interested in the character.

Tell me what is it that is special about his personality. What are his likes, dislikes, flaws, strengths etc?


To be honest i think the most important thing i like about Quasar is his morality and normalness.

Most cosmic heroes are all with the Mightier then thou attitude but Quasar is like a normal person.

It is easy to put yourself in his place and and really feel like maybe that's what it would be like if someone like us were to get this crazy amount of power and responsibility.

At the same time I think his will and determination is stronger than what I could muster i mean if you go back and read the stuff that he has been through and he can still put a smile on his face and be normal and not totally wacked out that is saying something.

The biggest weakness that Quasar has is self doubt. If he can begin to accept that he is the one that should be in that station as "Protector of the Universe" and still be as humble as he is he would be a force to be reckoned with. As it stands and unless something changes in Annihilation he is this normal guy with an incredible sense of what is good and decent (His hero is Captain America) and he strives to be the man that Cap is, with a big stint of self doubt.

I really hope he can get past that and start beleiving in himself some more. I guess that would be one request for his ongoing series is deal with it have him more confident but no too confident where he is too cocky. But don't loose it entirely kinda like Tony Stark and the bottle just something Quasar has to deal with but doesn't need to be in everybook.

[Haunt]

To be honest i think the most important thing i like about Quasar is his morality and normalness.

Most cosmic heroes are all with the Mightier then thou attitude but Quasar is like a normal person.

It is easy to put yourself in his place and and really feel like maybe that's what it would be like if someone like us were to get this crazy amount of power and responsibility.

At the same time I think his will and determination is stronger than what I could muster i mean if you go back and read the stuff that he has been through and he can still put a smile on his face and be normal and not totally wacked out that is saying something.

The biggest weakness that Quasar has is self doubt. If he can begin to accept that he is the one that should be in that station as "Protector of the Universe" and still be as humble as he is he would be a force to be reckoned with. As it stands and unless something changes in Annihilation he is this normal guy with an incredible sense of what is good and decent (His hero is Captain America) and he strives to be the man that Cap is, with a big stint of self doubt.

I really hope he can get past that and start beleiving in himself some more. I guess that would be one request for his ongoing series is deal with it have him more confident but no too confident where he is too cocky. But don't loose it entirely kinda like Tony Stark and the bottle just something Quasar has to deal with but doesn't need to be in everybook.


just my opinion but i think Wendell needs a team to hang with. because he's this normal guy it's really easy to write him in a way that's "boring." i think he needs stronger personalities to play off of. just my opinion.

btw, i don't want to frighten you but you might want to read the latest issue of Marvel Team-Up. Kirkman's new character Freedom Ring is a very normal guy with exceptionally high-morals who gets his powers from a reality-altering ring (made from a fragment of the cosmic cube). the main difference is that he's 1) gay and 2) mullet-less.

http://images.comicbookresources.com/previews/marvelcomics/marvelteamup/021/4.jpg

[marshal99]

I should think that Quasar got past his self doubts a long time ago , when he was first appointed the protector of the universe by Eon , he was still pretty much a superhero rookie as far as the universe goes , after all these years , he should be a veteran by now , having gone through so many cosmic experiences and having done so many things.
He is pretty underrated though even though he is potentially one of the most powerful humans on earth.

[twilight]

I'd like to see a book where Quasar is adventuring in space but also spends some
time on Earth and has some time to develop a supporting cast.

One of the other things I feel is missing from a lot of comics is the job aspect.How is Quasar meant to eat?Give Quasar a job he doesn't have to turn up to everyday(so he still has spare time for crime-fightin'/adventurin') but still one that gives him an income.

[Haunt]

I'd like to see a book where Quasar is adventuring in space but also spends some
time on Earth and has some time to develop a supporting cast.

One of the other things I feel is missing from a lot of comics is the job aspect.How is Quasar meant to eat?


i figure that he's been nibbling on his arm fungus over the years; chockful of vitamins, don'tcha know.

[ColdFury]

I'd like to see a book where Quasar is adventuring in space but also spends some
time on Earth and has some time to develop a supporting cast.

One of the other things I feel is missing from a lot of comics is the job aspect.How is Quasar meant to eat?Give Quasar a job he doesn't have to turn up to everyday(so he still has spare time for crime-fightin'/adventurin') but still one that gives him an income.


Actually, that was the sort of thing Quasar's book was very concerned about early on.

[riotgear]

I would make the book more of an ensemble, even though Quasar would be the main character. The perfect writer to do this would be Dan Slott. He seems closest to Gruenwald's writing when he was at his best. Quasar would be the main character, Kismet would be the romantic lead/foil, Epoch is a dichotomy as both an information source and endless naivete (which Kismet would play off sometimes, since she, too, is naive), and Beta Ray Bill would be the traveling companion. They seemed to go well together during the StarMasters storyline. For an artist, I would have Ron Lim, Jeff Johnson, or Scot Eaton.

[aniscape]

I would make the book more of an ensemble, even though Quasar would be the main character. The perfect writer to do this would be Dan Slott. He seems closest to Gruenwald's writing when he was at his best. Quasar would be the main character, Kismet would be the romantic lead/foil, Epoch is a dichotomy as both an information source and endless naivete (which Kismet would play off sometimes, since she, too, is naive), and Beta Ray Bill would be the traveling companion. They seemed to go well together during the StarMasters storyline. For an artist, I would have Ron Lim, Jeff Johnson, or Scot Eaton.

Agree. I beleive that outside of Cosmos in Collision some of the best of Quasar were the interactions between his other cosmic friends. Really enjoyed Makkari

I am not too crazy about some of your artist choices though they are great artist especially Ron Lim but i don't think they could portray Quasar in the right way. My personal favorite for the artist on the book would be Steve Lightle i beleive he can capture Quasars look and essence and has great attention to detail. When I have some more time I will provide links to examples of his work.

[aniscape]

I'd like to see a book where Quasar is adventuring in space but also spends some
time on Earth and has some time to develop a supporting cast.

One of the other things I feel is missing from a lot of comics is the job aspect.How is Quasar meant to eat?Give Quasar a job he doesn't have to turn up to everyday(so he still has spare time for crime-fightin'/adventurin') but still one that gives him an income.


That is a great point twilight... it would interesting to see how they would handle that. I really don't want to see to much time spent on earth since i beleive he should be mostly space based but as long as they don't have him made into a delivery service, like in one of Nova's series, we shoudl be okay :)

A supporting cast is very important. with a great supporting cast they can help in bringing out the main character.

I think this would be one of the most difficult parts in writting a great Quasar book.

[riotgear]

I am not too crazy about some of your artist choices though they are great artist especially Ron Lim but i don't think they could portray Quasar in the right way. My personal favorite for the artist on the book would be Steve Lightle i beleive he can capture Quasars look and essence and has great attention to detail. When I have some more time I will provide links to examples of his work.

I know Steve Lightle, and he might be a good pick, depending on who is inking him. As for attention to detail, Scot Eaton would be ideal. I loved his Quasar in the StarMasters storyline, and he has grown so much since then. Look at his aliens when he was doing CrossGen. He has the chops for it. Jeff Johnson would be good, in my opinion, but he was at his best when Terry Austin was inking him. Unfortunately, according to one of the senior Marvel artists I talked to while at ECCC (I won't put his name, so that it can't potentially hurt him), he's pretty much been drummed out of Marvel. That was suprising to me, considering he's one of the best all-time inkers in comics, period.

[marshal99]

Scott Eaton would be a good choice . He can draw a good thanos as well , he was the one that drew the thanos vs tyrant fight if i'm not wrong.

I missed tyrant and Morg. They were really cool characters , especially Tyrant who is one power level higher than Surfer and even more powerful than thanos.

Jeff Johnson is the guy that drew Wonder man , right ? No thanks to him , his art doesn't appeal to me.

[aniscape]

I know Steve Lightle, and he might be a good pick, depending on who is inking him. As for attention to detail, Scot Eaton would be ideal. I loved his Quasar in the StarMasters storyline, and he has grown so much since then. Look at his aliens when he was doing CrossGen. He has the chops for it. Jeff Johnson would be good, in my opinion, but he was at his best when Terry Austin was inking him. Unfortunately, according to one of the senior Marvel artists I talked to while at ECCC (I won't put his name, so that it can't potentially hurt him), he's pretty much been drummed out of Marvel. That was suprising to me, considering he's one of the best all-time inkers in comics, period.


Post some recent things Scott Eaton has done... you have made me curious...


Lightle pic of Quasar in 2005 (http://comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=79436&GSub=0&GCat=1&UCat=461) he seems a bit young there but he could draw him older.

[J'onn J'onzz]

Agree. I beleive that outside of Cosmos in Collision some of the best of Quasar were the interactions between his other cosmic friends. Really enjoyed Makkari

I am not too crazy about some of your artist choices though they are great artist especially Ron Lim but i don't think they could portray Quasar in the right way. My personal favorite for the artist on the book would be Steve Lightle i beleive he can capture Quasars look and essence and has great attention to detail. When I have some more time I will provide links to examples of his work.

Yeah, Cosmos in Collision was a great story. Issue #22 of Quasar (part 4 of Cosmos in Collision) is to me the perfect comic. Suicide Squad # 19 is the only other comic to share that honor. Oh and Justice League Europe #6. I have quite varying tastes: a cosmic, down to Earth, and a comedy... hm...But I've only read up to issue 25 of Quasar's series.

[pmpknface]

At the end of the Maximum Security storyline this happened (got this word for word from the Marvel.com site (http://www.marvel.com/universe/Quasar_%28Wendell_Vaughn%29):

When the creature known as Ego attempted to swallow up the Earth into itself, Quasar absorbed Ego into his Quantum Bands. To guard against Ego being released, Quasar has been forced to exile himself into space.

Is this going to be dealt with in this story?

[aniscape]

At the end of the Maximum Security storyline this happened (got this word for word from the Marvel.com site (http://www.marvel.com/universe/Quasar_%28Wendell_Vaughn%29):

When the creature known as Ego attempted to swallow up the Earth into itself, Quasar absorbed Ego into his Quantum Bands. To guard against Ego being released, Quasar has been forced to exile himself into space.

Is this going to be dealt with in this story?


If it doesn't get addressed in the Annihilation series it would be a great way to start A Quasar Ongoing... maybe??

[pmpknface]

I just keep waiting for him to just throw-up a planet. That'll have to be a 1st in comics (although Galactus did get a bit sick trying to eat the Elders once).

God bless the person who ends up drawing that!

[marshal99]

At the end of the Maximum Security storyline this happened (got this word for word from the Marvel.com site (http://www.marvel.com/universe/Quasar_%28Wendell_Vaughn%29):

When the creature known as Ego attempted to swallow up the Earth into itself, Quasar absorbed Ego into his Quantum Bands. To guard against Ego being released, Quasar has been forced to exile himself into space.

Is this going to be dealt with in this story?

I hope not , that maximum security storyline was crap , i hope it never gets mentioned ever again. Let them retcon it away , it is absolutely dire. If you never read that storyline , be glad you didn't.

[The Adventurer]

Speaking of Ego....wouldn't it be killer if the Annihilation Wave ran into the Living Planet....and tryed to consume him?

[Quasar's Bands]

How awesome - I've loved this character since he was "Marvel Man." I used to play "Marvel Man" on the playground as a kid - using my wrist bands to stop bad guys.

Anyway, I agree that his "normalcy", but in space, is what makes him a true hero - Peter Parker meets Thanos kind of thing. I hate to say it, but it makes him possibly the most "Superman - like" character in Marvel. Does that make sense?

Anyway, I like the idea of team-ups with Nova, I'd like him to meet Frankie Raye someday (I think there could be "sparks" between them) and yes, he needs a supporting cast - something all 60 pages of his books really didn't deliver in the early 90s. If ever there was a character with a great deal of potential - it is Quasar.

[pmpknface]

Anyway, I like the idea of team-ups with Nova, I'd like him to meet Frankie Raye someday (I think there could be "sparks" between them) and yes, he needs a supporting cast - something all 60 pages of his books really didn't deliver in the early 90s. If ever there was a character with a great deal of potential - it is Quasar.

Well, the first think he'll have to do is dig her up. She died in the Silver Surfer's Herald Quest, I believe. But check out this mini-bust coming out soon:

http://www.bowendesigns.com/images/sculptures/Frankie%20Raye%20bust2.jpg

[Haunt]

"mini" bust?! could have fooled me. :eek:

[pmpknface]

HA! Yeah, not so mini, huh? ;)

But Bowen is finally getting around to doing more cosim characters. Terrax is up for sale, the Super Skrull may already be sold out, Nova (R. Rider) was out last year, Annihilus will be for sale soon, so if I can just get a Ronan I'll be set! :D

[Dark Soul # 7]

To be honest i think the most important thing i like about Quasar is his morality and normalness.

Most cosmic heroes are all with the Mightier then thou attitude but Quasar is like a normal person.

It is easy to put yourself in his place and and really feel like maybe that's what it would be like if someone like us were to get this crazy amount of power and responsibility.

At the same time I think his will and determination is stronger than what I could muster i mean if you go back and read the stuff that he has been through and he can still put a smile on his face and be normal and not totally wacked out that is saying something.

The biggest weakness that Quasar has is self doubt. If he can begin to accept that he is the one that should be in that station as "Protector of the Universe" and still be as humble as he is he would be a force to be reckoned with. As it stands and unless something changes in Annihilation he is this normal guy with an incredible sense of what is good and decent (His hero is Captain America) and he strives to be the man that Cap is, with a big stint of self doubt.

I really hope he can get past that and start beleiving in himself some more. I guess that would be one request for his ongoing series is deal with it have him more confident but no too confident where he is too cocky. But don't loose it entirely kinda like Tony Stark and the bottle just something Quasar has to deal with but doesn't need to be in everybook.Ok so he's the "everyman in space".

If that's true then I think there should be some sort of conflict where his Earth morals and normality is considered to be alien. Have him try to do something good on some other planet but the culture and morality of that planet is conflicting with his own so the inhabitants shunn him or something for doing what he considered was a good deed. Stuff like that would make him question himself and what is right and wrong in the universe. I think it could be pretty interesting.

[Quasar's Bands]

Maybe - the question is whether it would sell comics? Again, maybe. This kind of idea beckons back to the Adam Warlock "in search of meaning" comics from the 70s. Interesting to have Quasar fill that role.

Personally, I'd like some mega huge thing in which Quasar is a "general" who is in charge of many, many troops of different backgrounds and talents all fighting one major baddie. He's a natural leader if you let him lead.

[aniscape]

You know after reading the responses on this thread there are some really great ideas. I like:

DARK SOUL #7:

Ok so he's the "everyman in space".

If that's true then I think there should be some sort of conflict where his Earth morals and normality is considered to be alien. Have him try to do something good on some other planet but the culture and morality of that planet is conflicting with his own so the inhabitants shunn him or something for doing what he considered was a good deed. Stuff like that would make him question himself and what is right and wrong in the universe. I think it could be pretty interesting.

I think it is a good way to get him exposed to other cultures and become more universal. A universal protecter needs to understand what he is protecting to do the job well.

Another good point is:

QUASAR'S BANDS:

Personally, I'd like some mega huge thing in which Quasar is a "general" who is in charge of many, many troops of different backgrounds and talents all fighting one major baddie. He's a natural leader if you let him lead.

I like this idea but not have the series too focused on it. Maybe kind of having all these people around the universe with the ability to come and help Quasar if need be or able to contact him if there is trouble in that sector. Along with the listning stations he has positioned he could investigate the worlds in that area to get more in touch with the inhabitants of other worlds.

Quasar has more history especially in the future. What I mean by that is that in one possible future he and Kismet (Her) Get together and have a child which is hte Guardians of the Galaxy Starhawk. I think it would be great to have that love blossom and turn into something cool and have some cameos or maybe a lengthy stay by Starhawk. The universal Family in a way... Quasar, Kismet and Starhawk. Maybe a good way for Starhawk to know some happiness by fighting alongside his mother and father. Wether Quasar and Kismet know that he is their son in the book could be played with for a while. Until Quasar knows that he is his son there could be some cool scenerios:

1. Epoch knows but can't say anything cause Starhawk doesn't want it revealed.

2. An angst in Starhawk if Quasar notices someone else instead of Kismet and him trying to ruin it so he focus on Kismet.

3. Quasar helps Starhawk and starhawk replies with " Thanks for the help Daa...Quasar"

Could be some cool stuff if done right. Any thoughts?

[Dark Soul # 7]

What kind of supporting cast did Quasar have?
A good supporting cast is almost as important as a great main hero.

[Expletive Deleted]

What kind of supporting cast did Quasar have?
A good supporting cast is almost as important as a great main hero.Aside from Eon and Epoch (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/epochcosmic.htm), he had . . . His secretary-turned-girlfriend-turned-threat-to-reality Kayla Ballantine (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/ballank.htm) His friend and roommate Makkari (http://www.marveldirectory.com/individuals/m/makkari.htm) His friend and business partner Ken Tanaka (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/tanakake.htm) His stalker-turned-partner Kismet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kismet_(comics)) His employee-who-was-really-someone-else H.D. Steckley (Moondragon and Ereshkigal (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/ereshkgl.htm)). His father Gilbert Vaughn (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/vaughngi.htm).Eon, Gilbert, and Ereshkigal are dead and Kayla's lost in the New Universe. I forget Kismet's current status quo, but I think she's unavailable. Makkari is in ETERNALS. Moondragon is in ANNIHILATION.

[Quasar's Bands]

The better answer is "these were ATTEMPTS at a cast of characters." He was always shown flying into space or fighting some villain, so his cast never really grew close to him (besides Makkari - the only hero in the bunch). He was given a "clark kent" position, wore glasses, had the female co-worker he dated a couple of times - it was lame. His father died early on, his mother has cancer, and he has a sister. If you ask me, this is how it should be done:

Quasar tools around the universe until a big threat is detected - and it's heading to EARTH. He heads back home. Stops by to see his mother and sister, then goes off to set up some big station on the North Pole. He collects some "B" heroes - such as Makkari, but also Monica "Pulse/Photon/ Captain Marvel," and some "A" heroes - like Thor and Iron Man - that can help defend Earth from such a threat. After a major battle in which he leads Earth's forces, he takes some time off and - with his sister - sits through the tearful death of his mother. His sister tells him she wants to assist him in fighting the cosmic fight and somehow (I don't know) she gets the opportunity and becomes a new hero.

They head off into space, where they encounter the grave of Frankie Raye. Something happens, Frankie comes back to life and befriends the brother and sister team. Over time, Quasar and Frankie fall in love, and then the three end up on some wild adventures. Eventually, they find themselves interacting with other cosmic heroes - like, for example, Drax and others - and over time build up a supporting cast of their own having cosmic adventures. Frankie eventually gets pregnant and has Quasar's son - who later becomes Starhawk. (Yes, I know Starhawk is supposedly Kismet's child with Quasar - but those two characters had absolutely NO Chemistry).

Now we have a whole cosmic family - dad, sister, wife, son - and if the sister marries somebody and has kids - you get the point. This would be a new concept for Marvel - a family of heroes out in space.

[Expletive Deleted]

I agree that the workplace was mishandled, but I liked the general idea that he had a relatively normal support system to keep him grounded. If it's all cosmic beings (even formerly human ones), all the time, the whole thing's less relatable.

Having his father and Eon guiding him through the first year or two made for a great dynamic. Once they were out of the picture, things went downhill pretty fast supporting cast-wise.

[aniscape]

The better answer is "these were ATTEMPTS at a cast of characters." He was always shown flying into space or fighting some villain, so his cast never really grew close to him (besides Makkari - the only hero in the bunch). He was given a "clark kent" position, wore glasses, had the female co-worker he dated a couple of times - it was lame. His father died early on, his mother has cancer, and he has a sister. If you ask me, this is how it should be done:

Quasar tools around the universe until a big threat is detected - and it's heading to EARTH. He heads back home. Stops by to see his mother and sister, then goes off to set up some big station on the North Pole. He collects some "B" heroes - such as Makkari, but also Monica "Pulse/Photon/ Captain Marvel," and some "A" heroes - like Thor and Iron Man - that can help defend Earth from such a threat. After a major battle in which he leads Earth's forces, he takes some time off and - with his sister - sits through the tearful death of his mother. His sister tells him she wants to assist him in fighting the cosmic fight and somehow (I don't know) she gets the opportunity and becomes a new hero.

They head off into space, where they encounter the grave of Frankie Raye. Something happens, Frankie comes back to life and befriends the brother and sister team. Over time, Quasar and Frankie fall in love, and then the three end up on some wild adventures. Eventually, they find themselves interacting with other cosmic heroes - like, for example, Drax and others - and over time build up a supporting cast of their own having cosmic adventures. Frankie eventually gets pregnant and has Quasar's son - who later becomes Starhawk. (Yes, I know Starhawk is supposedly Kismet's child with Quasar - but those two characters had absolutely NO Chemistry).

Now we have a whole cosmic family - dad, sister, wife, son - and if the sister marries somebody and has kids - you get the point. This would be a new concept for Marvel - a family of heroes out in space.

That's sounds a bit "Lost in Space" but cool nonetheless. Maybe if we combine some of your ideas with a bit of what I posted above.

I like the idea of Stakar (Starhawk) being invilved somehow. Now wether he is Frankie's or Kismet's son I am leaning towards Kismet. I gather you like Frankie cause she is from earth and such but so is Kismet. The cool thing is Quasar could kinda help Kismet see what it truly means to be human. And in the process fall in love with her (no pun intended) ;)

I have been trying to get all of Quasar's appearances and picked up Marvel 2 in 1 #74 today and flipping threw the pages ... Wendell had a Fiancee??

I did not know that and I don't think it was never discussed in the ongoing series.

[Quasar's Bands]

Kismet and Wendall never hit it off - they were just far too different. Fact is, she would never be an interesting mate - she's a very boring character, being essentially a child with child-like motivations. She might work for a mentally slow guy, or an alien with a 9th grade education, but she's basically dumb - and has never been depicted any other way. (Kind, loving at times, but dumb and simple minded). There is no way I'd wish that on Quasar - he's college educated, intelligent and forward-thinking. Frankie was much the same - THAT is wny I think these characters would work well together.

[aniscape]

Kismet and Wendall never hit it off - they were just far too different. Fact is, she would never be an interesting mate - she's a very boring character, being essentially a child with child-like motivations. She might work for a mentally slow guy, or an alien with a 9th grade education, but she's basically dumb - and has never been depicted any other way. (Kind, loving at times, but dumb and simple minded). There is no way I'd wish that on Quasar - he's college educated, intelligent and forward-thinking. Frankie was much the same - THAT is wny I think these characters would work well together.

I see what you are saying. One of the reasons I think Kismet would work is because of all the reasons you listed. Essentially they could write her however they wanted. Wha thas she been doing these last few years?

Maybe they could bring back "Anti-Body" (think that's how it's spelled) the small version of him and get into all kinds of trouble. Kinda of the silent comedic sidekick :) he would sit on Quasar's shoulder and such and show his displeasure in whatever is happening physically and Quasar would have to Quantum Buble him to chill him out.

[marshal99]

Kismet and Wendall never hit it off - they were just far too different. Fact is, she would never be an interesting mate - she's a very boring character, being essentially a child with child-like motivations. She might work for a mentally slow guy, or an alien with a 9th grade education, but she's basically dumb - and has never been depicted any other way. (Kind, loving at times, but dumb and simple minded). There is no way I'd wish that on Quasar - he's college educated, intelligent and forward-thinking. Frankie was much the same - THAT is wny I think these characters would work well together.

Wendell already had his girlfriend , Kismet was like a puppy tagging along , there was never any romantic spark between them. It was a one way street.

As for Frankie Raye , she's dead , leave it alone , i never found her character that engaging , like Kismet to Wendell , Nova is to Surfer .

As for the supporting casts in Quasar's book , you can count the squadron supreme as one of them as they drop in from time and time while they are stuck on the marvel earth.

[aniscape]

Wendell already had his girlfriend , Kismet was like a puppy tagging along , there was never any romantic spark between them. It was a one way street.

As for Frankie Raye , she's dead , leave it alone , i never found her character that engaging , like Kismet to Wendell , Nova is to Surfer .

As for the supporting casts in Quasar's book , you can count the squadron supreme as one of them as they drop in from time and time while they are stuck on the marvel earth.

Yes, the Squad definitely need to make appearences in Quasar. Also, The Thing! Quasar and Ben have a huge history together and that was bearly touched on in the last Quasar ongoing book. I would like to see the Ben go on some wild adventures with Quasar from time to time.

[Quasar's Bands]

[QUOTE=Expletive Deleted]I agree that the workplace was mishandled, but I liked the general idea that he had a relatively normal support system to keep him grounded. If it's all cosmic beings (even formerly human ones), all the time, the whole thing's less relatable.

That's the rub - Wendall can't be defending the universe most of the time AND be at home having a family and human cast of characters. What marvel does NOT have at the moment is a character that has both - but in space. So, Wendall goes out for a long day of defending the universe, comes home tired to wherever in the universe their spaceship/home now is, kisses his human wife from Earth who also happens to be superpowered (why I like the idea of Frankie), their child comes running in and jumps on his Dad's lap, and their intersteller dog barks like something out of Norman Rockefeller. OK - maybe that is taking it too far, but the idea is something that would WORK for Wendall (he'd be a great dad), give the character a more reliable supporting cast, and add a new element to the Marvel universe that doesn't currently exist (have the kid be powerful as well and also fighting the fight, and give him a super sexy robot nanny who makes teenage boys drool).

[Quasar's Bands]

OK - if not Frankie (my first choice) then what about Monica? After all, she WAS in the space station with him for many hours at a time during the Avengers Kang story a few years ago.

[aniscape]

OK - if not Frankie (my first choice) then what about Monica? After all, she WAS in the space station with him for many hours at a time during the Avengers Kang story a few years ago.

I just picked up Ms. Marvel and I starting thinking about her past. Quite a histroy with Ms. Carol Danvers. I think She would be great for Quasar. She knew Captain Mar-vel and Quasar is always trying to live up to him plus she is ALIVE (sorry Frankie) and has a bit more personality then Kismet. I really feel that Carol and Wendell with make a great Cosmic couple!

[marshal99]

I always find that Carol and Simon Williams are more compatible and had good chemistry , all the way back in the classic avengers when Ms Marvel was hanging out with the avengers and Simon was fumbling trying to impress her. I guess one of the reasons why they paired them up in JLA/Avengers as well.
I hoped that they will reflect that relationship in the ms marvel book. Wonder man is too seldom seen nowadays.

[aniscape]

You know with the Eternals book set to bring them back to the forefront it would not be impossible to see Quasar and Makkarri team up again! I really enjoyed the chemistry between those 2 and they became great friends.

Speaking of girls ... I know she would probably drive him crazy but Sersi and Quasar could have a chance. With a mutual character as a mainstay in the Quasar book it would be easy to have the eternals popin from time to time and the way Sersi is looking in the Eternals mini ... you never know :cool:

[twilight]

Quasar Two-in-One

Every issue contains two stories.
The first story is about Quasar defeating a villian with relative ease and the second story is about Quasar's latest sexual conquest.

I'd buy it.

[marshal99]

Speaking of girls ... I know she would probably drive him crazy but Sersi and Quasar could have a chance. With a mutual character as a mainstay in the Quasar book it would be easy to have the eternals popin from time to time and the way Sersi is looking in the Eternals mini ... you never know :cool:

Unlikely , Sersi is a wild party animal and she regarded Quasar as very much a overgrown boyscout as shown in her remarks in both the thor and avengers comics.

[Deadpooligan]

I always like Quasar because he was a very humble hero with powers along that of Green Lantern. He only had to face moral judgement of criminals and not having to deal within a code or specific area of heroics. Considering his energy projections are made of yellow, you could suffice he has the potential to even take down several lanterns by himself.

That's a crossover I'd love to see. Green Lantern/Quasar.

[Dussan]

Quasar may have been the most self aware heroes out there. He seemed so ordinary, until you looked at his origins. Guy was a S.H.E.I.L.D. agent for crying out loud. He goes on a 8 month trip to Saturn to speak to Eon and learn about his powers, then comes back with full mastery.

What I liked was that he was so humble yet he was just awesome. He had some truly awesome enemies, and even stranger collection of cosmic friends. Moondragon being in love with him was interesting as hell. Also his comic book was penciled by Greg Capullo before he went to X-Factor and later Spawn. The guys stuff was great. It was almost like a Tenchi Muyo comic but believable.

I still remember when he killed Eon. And when he had his arms cut off to get his quantum bands off. He went through some real stuff. I liked that he met people and they stuck in the book. It wasn't just one shots.

[aniscape]

Quasar may have been the most self aware heroes out there. He seemed so ordinary, until you looked at his origins. Guy was a S.H.E.I.L.D. agent for crying out loud. He goes on a 8 month trip to Saturn to speak to Eon and learn about his powers, then comes back with full mastery.

What I liked was that he was so humble yet he was just awesome. He had some truly awesome enemies, and even stranger collection of cosmic friends. Moondragon being in love with him was interesting as hell. Also his comic book was penciled by Greg Capullo before he went to X-Factor and later Spawn. The guys stuff was great. It was almost like a Tenchi Muyo comic but believable.

I still remember when he killed Eon. And when he had his arms cut off to get his quantum bands off. He went through some real stuff. I liked that he met people and they stuck in the book. It wasn't just one shots.

Yeah... he has had an amazing history and he's still a nice guy :)

One of the reasons i created this thread is to get as many ideas for an ongoing book and hopefully Andy(Cosmic editor for Marvel) Stumbles through here and gets some good ideas to use.

Here's hoping we get a book at the end of Annihilation *crosses everything*

[Dark Soul # 7]

Yeah... he has had an amazing history and he's still a nice guy :)He needs a sidekick. No that's a bad word.

He needs an annoying room-mate, let me explain.

While I'm all for the "down-to-earth-guy-with-big-cosmic-powers-who-saves-the universe" approach to Quasar it would get boring after sometime. Now there are two ways of fixing this. Either you give him some sort of angst issue that's a bit more extreme than what I proposed before to give him a "deeper personality". Or you link him to a creature with a cynical and less all around less "boy-scoutish" look on the world to appeal a bigger audience. Of course the two can be affected by eachother and rub off of one another's personalities.

That's just me talking.

[aniscape]

He needs a sidekick. No that's a bad word.

He needs an annoying room-mate, let me explain.

While I'm all for the "down-to-earth-guy-with-big-cosmic-powers-who-saves-the universe" approach to Quasar it would get boring after sometime. Now there are two ways of fixing this. Either you give him some sort of angst issue that's a bit more extreme than what I proposed before to give him a "deeper personality". Or you link him to a creature with a cynical and less all around less "boy-scoutish" look on the world to appeal a bigger audience. Of course the two can be affected by eachother and rub off of one another's personalities.

That's just me talking.

Just thought of something. Quasar has been dead enough times that he is in first name basis with his own angel of death. How about Kid Reaper. There could be some really cool things happening with that. For one Reaper would want to just kill anything and he would have the inside track to the Death side of things. You know how Thanos is always talking to Mistress Death well.. what if this were to happen:

Reaper: Hey... Goldielocks!
Quasar: What is it now Reaper...I really don't have th...
Reaper: (cutting off Quasar) Yeah...whatever... listen I just over heard something by the blood cooler today. Wanna know what it was??
Quasar: If this is another attempt at trying to convince me that killing is bett...
Reaper: (cutting off Quasar again) No... i mean yeah killing is better...but no i got some news you might find useful (looking all smug)
Quasar: Even if I said no you would just tell me anyw...
Reaper: (cuts Quasar off again) hehe... you've gotten smarter since the last time I killed you... anyway, I was talking to the reaper in charge of getting those poor soles that Thanos leaves behind. Man I am sure glad I odn't have his job poor thing is working himself to the bone!! Ha I kill me!! Ha too late! Anyway I digress...
Quasar: *Smirks and is about to Quantum Jump the Reaper to another quadrant to get some rest from his constent rumblings...*
Reaper: Hey now Quaz... know that look... Last time you did that it took me 2 earth hours to find my way back! You really wanna hear this!
Quasar: okay...okay... get on with it then!
Reaper: Your lucky I like you Ken doll...(Quasar rolls his eyes)... See Mistress left the realm to ge see Thanos and...

Anyone else buy this book? ;)

[Elegance Liberty]

I'd buy that! =D

In all seriousness, the character is really fascinating. His personality is endearing, and with all the grim 'n gritty (not that there's anything wrong with it... it's just overdone IMO) characters in comics these days, Quasar seems like a breath of fresh air.

It's been a while since he's had an ongoing or appeared in anything pre-'Annihilation', right? If so, it might take a bit of work to reintroduce him to the comic book reading populace, especially newer readers these days as well. I dunno, I'd like to see an ongoing starring Quasar go on for at least a couple years.

[The Mirrorball Man]

I'd buy that! =D

In all seriousness, the character is really fascinating. His personality is endearing, and with all the grim 'n gritty (not that there's anything wrong with it... it's just overdone IMO) characters in comics these days, Quasar seems like a breath of fresh air.
Heh. That's funny, I was thinking the exact opposite! With all the uber-traditional super-heroes we've got these days, Quasar just seems like one more bland old-fashioned character with a cape.

[Dussan]

He needs a cosmic powered, hot female ex villain as his roommate. Trying to redeem her, but she is like screw that, I wanna blow up something, so you got a nemesis/potential love interest/comedic relief in one.

Can't think of a villain cause I don't keep tabs on this stuff. But Quasar is WAY too nice a guy to have a stable girlfriend that is equally nice. He needs someone in his life that makes the bad boy inyou say.

"Nail that bitch now!"

But Quasar isn't a bad boy. He is a Capt America fanboy, so he should be

"no, I want to help heal her emotional wounds and make her a happy person, but god she is a bitch, and smoking hot"

Conflict. One thing I liked was that Quasar had a collection of the hottest Marvel babe rejects. Like that golden skinned hottie. He needs something like that but make her out to rule the universe, but she gets screwed up and somehow has to share her life with a total good guy who could own her in two seconds flat. But he is such a wuss that he won't do it. So she tries to manipulate, or just makes his normal life miserable.

He gets in trouble, and she comes along and WTFOWNS the hell out of them, by ripping off limbs and blowing up stuff. She has to be absolutely badass.

That maybe my Buffyverse kicking in. I liked the idea that a total wimp was nailing a demigod that could rip him in two.

[Shellhead]

Quasar Two-in-One

Every issue contains two stories.
The first story is about Quasar defeating a villian with relative ease and the second story is about Quasar's latest sexual conquest.

I'd buy it.

Quasar's sexual conquests? Who says he was the conqueror?

http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/large/66321580692.29.gif

I was a fan of Quasar at first, until the art started making him look like a girl with a mullet. Then this cover came out, and I dropped Quasar for good.

[aniscape]

Quasar's sexual conquests? Who says he was the conqueror?
I was a fan of Quasar at first, until the art started making him look like a girl with a mullet. Then this cover came out, and I dropped Quasar for good.

You shoulda held out... that was actually a really cool story and there where a few more great stories in the following issues especially with the new universe. but then around issue 41-42 the art went downhill and so did the stories which lead to cancellation.

Now is the time of rebirth and let all the Quasar fans whom have remained quiet stand now and let Andy know how much Quasar means to all of us!

[Dussan]

You shoulda held out... that was actually a really cool story and there where a few more great stories in the following issues especially with the new universe. but then around issue 41-42 the art went downhill and so did the stories which lead to cancellation.

Now is the time of rebirth and let all the Quasar fans whom have remained quiet stand now and let Andy know how much Quasar means to all of us!

Agreed, that was the Epoch storyline right?

[The Mighty Musnud]

Conflict. One thing I liked was that Quasar had a collection of the hottest Marvel babe rejects. Like that golden skinned hottie. He needs something like that but make her out to rule the universe, but she gets screwed up and somehow has to share her life with a total good guy who could own her in two seconds flat. But he is such a wuss that he won't do it. So she tries to manipulate, or just makes his normal life miserable.

Hmmm...interesting thought. Perhaps we could see a Magus version of Kismet. That could be a very compelling storyline...

At any rate, I also would like to see a Quasar ongoing. I thought he was handled really well in the Operation: Galactic Storm storyline, and I'd like to see him in that type of team setting more often.

[aniscape]

Agreed, that was the Epoch storyline right?

It was when Kismet was testing most of earth's hereos to figure out who would be worthy to mate with her :)

[Quasar's Bands]

I think Quasar's connection to Earth needs to be weakened and he needs to have connections in space - alien comerades, Earth folk that are in space fighting the fight, etc. If he is going to be protecting Earth and the whole freakin universe, we need to see supporting characters out there in the vastness of Space. I also think he needs SOME edge - not much, but he needs to suffer some loss - you know, Captain America (kinda) lost Bucky while fighting bad guys. Quasar needs to lose someone and be a little edgier as a result - maybe a very good friend who sacrifices himself for Wendall. Just an idea.

[aniscape]

I think Quasar's connection to Earth needs to be weakened and he needs to have connections in space - alien comerades, Earth folk that are in space fighting the fight, etc. If he is going to be protecting Earth and the whole freakin universe, we need to see supporting characters out there in the vastness of Space. I also think he needs SOME edge - not much, but he needs to suffer some loss - you know, Captain America (kinda) lost Bucky while fighting bad guys. Quasar needs to lose someone and be a little edgier as a result - maybe a very good friend who sacrifices himself for Wendall. Just an idea.

Like Nova maybe??

[Satyrquaze]

Like Nova maybe??

Naaw, but Cammi is a distinct possibility. :D

There is something to that thought of Quasar suffering a loss... anyone else notice that Epoch has been fairly quiet as of late?

[aniscape]

I posted this in Andy's thread but I though it would be appropriate t move it here as well:

How is this for an off the wall Galactic Team:

Lead: Quasar
Number 2: A new Powerful Character that Quasar encounters while dealing with the Ego problem.
Comedic relief: Kid Reaper (Devil on Quasar's left shoulder)
Information Keeper(secondary comedic releif):Epoch (Angel on Quasar's right Shoulder)
Love Interest: All the women I listed ealier :P
Best Friend: Makkari (I think they were good together)
Mystery Character: Starhawk (Quasar's possible future son) of course redone with the Andy Cosmic flavor
Location: Space... earth visits very limited.
Primary Threat: Dealing with Ego the living planet while creating the basis of a much greater threat towards the end of the first year's run.
Secondary and prolonged threat:Deathurge, to keep Quasar focused and know that if he gives in the fear, and self doubt he will be there to claim him.

I think something like this would give the book a very unique feel to it?

Yes?

No?

What are your thoughts?

[Mysterio's Helmet]

I kind of agree and kind of don't . Even if the villian was "smokin' hot" and a foil it comes down to whether she's evil enough. If she is (Thanos-Infinity Gauntlet level) then he's going to contain or depower her first or if it gets that bad, end her, no questions asked. He's not a very gray character. And the likeness to Cap's moral values is about right.

That being said, the way Cammi is right now....she'd be just a fairly good fit. Kind of "odd couple" relationship. Pretty much a cynic to Wendell's open-mind.

[aniscape]

I kind of agree and kind of don't . Even if the villian was "smokin' hot" and a foil it comes down to whether she's evil enough. If she is (Thanos-Infinity Gauntlet level) then he's going to contain or depower her first or if it gets that bad, end her, no questions asked. He's not a very gray character. And the likeness to Cap's moral values is about right.

That being said, the way Cammi is right now....she'd be just a fairly good fit. Kind of "odd couple" relationship. Pretty much a cynic to Wendell's open-mind.

Only problem with that is Cammi is only 12! :eek: