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[Cyke]

Venom can bench, what, 50 tons or so? And he'd still get smacked around by Donna.

[Arrjay]

If Venom is akin to Spider-Man in form and abilities, then it makes sense for Brock to be similar to Parker. I'm sure when he goes all CG then he'll be bulky and tendrilly.

That's more or less what I was thinking.

[BoosterBronze]

If this is legit, and I'm slightly suspect of it, then I'm stoked. Venom is awesome, and should make a great villain, with Grace or Church playing him.

Sam Raimi gave us two of the best movies EVER. I have faith in the man to earn my $7.50 and then my $19.99 for DVD.

[HomerJay]

If they're making Venom to be a bizarro version of Spidey then Grace is a good choice.

[Magneto_X]

You know,this may sound weird,but what if they could have Brock Lesnar as a sort of body double for whoever plays venom? The guy has the perfect build for it.

If they want to hire a wrestler to do it Lesner would be the last person they should hire for the part.

The Rock is a good enough actor for Brock, IMO.

[VCreed32]

Body double, not actor.

[Magneto_X]

VCreed:

My mistake.

Perhaps both Grace and Church are Venom. Chutrch would be Brock but Grace could be an alias he shapeshifts into, via symbiote, to get close to Pete and/or Mary-Jane.

[Grant]

Unfortuntely she is an airhead. *sigh* It's such a waste, really. :(

How is she an airhead? She just made a silly little flub in an interview.

[Magneto_X]

How is she an airhead? She just made a silly little flub in an interview.

This isn't the first time I've heard her say stupid things in interviews.

Before Spider 2 started production she thought it should be a trilogy where Spidey dies in the end. :0

[Taltos]

Anyone think that Kirsten Dunst fell off? I dont know if she stopped taking care of herself or started using drugs or whatever. All I know is she doesnt look good anymore.

[Magneto_X]

Anyone think that Kirsten Dunst fell off? I dont know if she stopped taking care of herself or started using drugs or whatever. All I know is she doesnt look good anymore.

Alwasy a possibility in Hollywood, exspecially with celebs in the upper echelon like Dunst is.

[Grant]

This isn't the first time I've heard her say stupid things in interviews.

She's doesn't come across as an intellectual but I think saying she's a ditz is kind of harsh.

[SnowTrooper]

Im sure that you have already heard this before on IMDB or whatever but I figured that I would post it here anyway

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During an interview, Kirsten Dunst accidently revealed what villians will be in the new Spider-Man movie, Topher Grace will play Venom and Thomas Haden Church will play Sandman.

[Artemis1]

This has already been done twice.

[SlightlyMad]

Church & Grace are now officially listed as Sandman & Venom on the IMDB cast list. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0413300/)

[Iceman4v]

Im sure that you have already heard this before on IMDB or whatever but I figured that I would post it here anyway

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During an interview, Kirsten Dunst accidently revealed what villians will be in the new Spider-Man movie, Topher Grace will play Venom and Thomas Haden Church will play Sandman.

Topher Grace is more of a nerd that Toby. . . . Wasn't he a jock?

[Magneto_X]

Movie versions are usually altered from their comic-based counterparts.
Depends on what they want to do with said characters.

It can be good (the Scarecrow/Ra's al Ghul [Batman Begins], Mary-Jane/Aunt May/Spiderman/Dr.Octopus [Spiderman movies], Deacon Frost/Blade [Blade movies], Catwoman [Batman Returns], the Crow [movie], the Joker [Batman: The Movie], the Mystique/General Striker/Rogue/Jean Grey/Nightcrawler/Lady Deathstrike [X-men movie]) or bad (Robin/Mr.Freeze/Poison Ivy/Two-Face/Riddler/Bane/Batgirl [Batman & Robin], Hannibal King/Dracula [Blade: Trinity], Lex Luther [Superman movies], Catwoman [Halle Berry version]).

[Iceman4v]

Harry Osborn has to come into play some how. . .


Spider-man has always had three different focuses

SM1- Mary Jane, Day to day life, And the big Green

SM2- Mary Jane (again), Harry, and Doc

SM3- (MJ should be done with) Venom (bad choice on actor), Sandman (O.K. choice), And GG2

I just hope they don't do what I heard they might do and have lame (Smallville like) cameo's. . .

[Magneto_X]

From what I've heard at movie sites (Chud, JoBlo, AICN etc) Harry won't be a main villain until the third movie.

They probaly want to stretch his character arc more with the second movie to set up where he becomes the Hobgoblin.

[Iceman4v]

From what I've heard at movie sites (Chud, JoBlo, AICN etc) Harry won't be a main villain until the third movie.

They probaly want to stretch his character arc more with the second movie to set up where he becomes the Hobgoblin.
you do know that is someone else right. . .

[Dennis K]

Venom (bad choice on actor)


I wouldn't be so quick to judge.

[Jared]

you do know that is someone else right. . .

I pretty much expect that if and when Harry becomes a villain, he go by the name Hobgoblin and have a different costume, rather than be known as the new Green Goblin.

IIRC, by finding Norman's secret stash, he's already taken on part of the original Hobgoblin's origin.

What concerns me is how Venom *and* Sandman can be fit into the same movie. A basic Venom story, even without the Secret Wars stuff, seems like it would be enough for its own movie. The first half would have Spidey dealing with the symbiote suit himself, the second would be Venom.

[ragnarok_2012]

From what I've heard at movie sites (Chud, JoBlo, AICN etc) Harry won't be a main villain until the third movie.

They probaly want to stretch his character arc more with the second movie to set up where he becomes the Hobgoblin.

Do you mean the fourth Spider-man movie, because the next one would be Spider-man 3. The Hobgoblin was my favorite Spider-man villain, so I'd love to see him on the big screen. Harry as the Hobgoblin works for me.

I know this topic has been discussed at length before, but I think it'll be a challenge to include two villains in the next film. I hope it doesn't lead to the villain inflation of the Bat franchise.

And I'd love to see Connors turn into the Lizard in a future Spider-man film.

[Dennis K]

I pretty much expect that if and when Harry becomes a villain, he go by the name Hobgoblin and have a different costume, rather than be known as the new Green Goblin.

IIRC, by finding Norman's secret stash, he's already taken on part of the original Hobgoblin's origin.

What concerns me is how Venom *and* Sandman can be fit into the same movie. A basic Venom story, even without the Secret Wars stuff, seems like it would be enough for its own movie. The first half would have Spidey dealing with the symbiote suit himself, the second would be Venom.


I'm kind of uneasy about the whole "two villain" plan, it's too Schumachery if you know what I mean. I'm going to be pretty suprised if the Venom movie origin is going to match the comics one. Like you said, I just don't see how they can work it in.

[Jared]

The most sensible way for two villains to work would be for one to be a henchmen for another. Now I could see that working with a pairing such as Rhino and Hobgoblin, but not Sandman and Venom. The only other thing I can think of is that Sandman won't actually be a huge part, he'll just be a villain that Spidey stops after getting the symbiote.

[Iceman4v]

The most sensible way for two villains to work would be for one to be a henchmen for another. Now I could see that working with a pairing such as Rhino and Hobgoblin, but not Sandman and Venom. The only other thing I can think of is that Sandman won't actually be a huge part, he'll just be a villain that Spidey stops after getting the symbiote.
Henchman or Sandman coulld be the villain that is defeated in the start of the movie which leads Spider-Man to discovering the Suit.

[Magneto_X]

Do you mean the fourth Spider-man movie, because the next one would be Spider-man 3.

That's correct.

And I'd love to see Connors turn into the Lizard in a future Spider-man film.

So would I.

[Erebus]

Question:How many Spider-Man movies are there going to be?

[Magneto_X]

Originally it was going to be a trilogy.

Recently they wnat to do as many as they want.

[Grant]

I'm kind of uneasy about the whole "two villain" plan, it's too Schumachery if you know what I mean. I'm going to be pretty suprised if the Venom movie origin is going to match the comics one. Like you said, I just don't see how they can work it in.

People get all touchy about the two villans things but I don't see it as a big deal as long as it serves the story. Batman Begins had more the one villan and people didn't get upset about that. The X-Men movies had three or four villans. James Bond movies usually have multiple villans.

[Grant]

Question:How many Spider-Man movies are there going to be?

As long as they keep making money probably as many as Sony can make. If Spider-man 3 makes over 200 million I doubt they will stop there.

[Captain Sarcasm]

Question:How many Spider-Man movies are there going to be?

They're hoping to do as many as six. And Sam Raimi hopes to do them all.

[Jared]

They're hoping to do as many as six. And Sam Raimi hopes to do them all.

I hope they locked Toby down for one helluva contract.

[Captain Sarcasm]

I hope they locked Toby down for one helluva contract.

Nah, if he wants out, they'll just clone him.

[Grant]

I hope they locked Toby down for one helluva contract.

Or just recast. Who knows. I heard as long as Raimi stays Toby will do the movies. And vice versa. But things could change.

[wingsofdamnation]

uhh i wouldnt be so quick to beleive dunst. she's not what i would call official evidence about the future events. seriously she wanted peter to die in the third one after getting MJ pregnate and have the forth about the children and them being the sons of spiderman. it seems a little to obvious that they would have her spill the beans about the villains and give people hope for their villains and then have sony or marvel officially announce the villains. so i guess im saying wait before marvel or sony confirms it before you get your hopes high

awe crap i just saw the official picture of sandman....so maybe Dunst IS legit.
well i guess forget every thing i just said

[wingsofdamnation]

What concerns me is how Venom *and* Sandman can be fit into the same movie. A basic Venom story, even without the Secret Wars stuff, seems like it would be enough for its own movie. The first half would have Spidey dealing with the symbiote suit himself, the second would be Venom.

i dont see how the two will fit in the movie either. unless like spiderman fights sandman and loses really really badly. and then spidey gets the symbiot suit and beats sandman to a complete pulp...which is when he realizes the suits taking over and he gets rid of it and then brock gets it and becomes venom. so the half of the movie where sandman is the main villain they build on brocks hatred for spiderman and then when sandmans out of the picture brock becomes the main villain

[Watchman]

Am I the only one who thought the Spiderman movies sucked?

[Captain Sarcasm]

Am I the only one who thought the Spiderman movies sucked?

Yes. Yes you are.

[zombie]

Am I the only one who thought the Spiderman movies sucked?

Nah, for the most part they bored me. But I'm just not a big fan of Spiderman to begin with, so I went in not really caring.

[Magneto_X]

Or just recast. Who knows. I heard as long as Raimi stays Toby will do the movies. And vice versa. But things could change.

If Topher Grace wasn't in Spiderman 3 he would have been perfect to take over from Toby.

[Venoman]

you probably have to be a spiderman fan to really like the films... i loved the films but ill admit they arnt the greatest films ever... all my friends are ike "so spidermans your faviourite movie right?" but its never gonna make it onto my toplist because its not a classic peice of cinema... its a very entertining film and both the spiderman films are in my opinion the greatest comic book adaptations ever to make it on screen... but they certainly arnt scarface or citizen kane.

[Grant]

you probably have to be a spiderman fan to really like the films... i loved the films but ill admit they arnt the greatest films ever...

I know people who aren't a fan of the comics (or even comics in general) who like the movies.

[Venoman]

oh yeah plenty of people i know like the films but not many REALLY like them... u know?

[kmeyers]

oh yeah plenty of people i know like the films but not many REALLY like them... u know?

um...no.

The movies were incredibly popular...and made millions of dollars...so someone was going to see them...and probably not because they disliked them.

[Venoman]

obviously YOU dont know... when i say really i mean like a big big big fan of the film... i mean plenty of average joes were like "that was a great movie" but i think mostly only the comic book fans went "wow! that is the best film i ever saw... amazing" and if they werent comic book fans when they saw the films they should be by now..

[Grant]

oh yeah plenty of people i know like the films but not many REALLY like them... u know?

Quite a few. Least in my circle of non comic reading fans.

[cable guy]

Really none of my friends and family read comics, yet they all loved the movie.

[Grazzt]

I found a pic of Sandman from the new Spider-Man movie on Superdickery. (http://s8.invisionfree.com/Superdickery_Forum/index.php?showtopic=1649) He seems perfectly cast, and they didn't even have to change his costume that much (if they have changed it, I can't tell what they've changed). What does everyone think?

[Grant]

Hah! I beat you to it THREE DAYS AGO!!! (http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=90362&page=1&pp=15)

:p

[Watchman]

Yes, someone's a bit slow. :)

[Venoman]

yeah... can you at least take the time to check for these sorts of threads before you post them? i usually do quick check.. but seriously this is the 3rd or 4th one

[Paradox]

Same here. This is probably the most well-recieved comic book movie ever, as a movie, not as a comic book thing. I have no idea what Venoman is talking about, unless he's expecting that people who really like something will walk around all foaming at the mouth and constantly talking about it. If so, that's only comic fans that do that. ;)

I'm lying, of course. Plenty of other geeky fan groups do it, too. :D

[Venoman]

i quite simply mean they would place it in their top 5 film list..... that would be someone that REALLY liked the movie.. i fear this is just a confusion of definitions...

[Paradox]

It's...not really the kind of movie anyone would put on a Top 5 of all time, no. Hardly anything is.

And anyone that would probably hasn't seen very many movies.

[Venoman]

that what im saying... that what i was trying to say all along... its not a good film in the sense that it would come highly in a film buffs top list.... but it is very entertaining... and i just thought that only comic book fans or people who didnt watch many movies would put it in their top list

[SoulOnIce]

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=22217

[nervmeister]

Spider-man 1: Slightly depressing but upbeat.

Spider-man 2: Even more depressing.

Spider-man 3 (ft. Gwen Stacy): Whoa boy.....

[StoneGold]

Crazy. THey get a blonde to play a redhead, and a redhead to play a blond.

[Grant]

So is Gwen going to be Venom?

[StoneGold]

So is Gwen going to be Venom?
No, Sandman.

[AceOfSpades]

Gwen? Please don't tell me we have to watch a whole lot more of Peter/MJ drama unfold now

[Grant]

Didn't Gwen date Eddie Brock in the Ultimate Marvel U?

[BlairH]

So, how they going to kill her? Can we have a repeat of what happened in the first movie (except with Spiderman actually failing)?

[Spiff]

Didn't Gwen date Eddie Brock in the Ultimate Marvel U?

They went on one "date" I believe, to which Gwen came back angry at Brock. I forget exactly what happened, but it's not difficult to guess.

[KenK]

Crazy. THey get a blonde to play a redhead, and a redhead to play a blond.

Don't you just love irony?!?!

[Nate Grey]

Bryce Howard would have made a great MJ. Hmmm...

[Chiasm]

Is she going to be a zombie? In Spiderman her name was on one of the graves.

[Murrocko]

Really, I never knew that. How'd you notice something like that?

[Grant]

Is she going to be a zombie? In Spiderman her name was on one of the graves.

I kind of doubt it.

[Chiasm]

Really, I never knew that. How'd you notice something like that?

Its an easter egg they put in there. I wouldn't have known it if I hadn't read it.

[Grant]

You know I was reading Essential Spider-man Vol. 5 the other thinking "James Cromwell would be a great Captain Stacy."

And it turns out he's been cast. (http://www.superherohype.com/news/spider-mannews.php?id=3824)

I must be psychic.

[darkkeeperjr]

Its an easter egg they put in there. I wouldn't have known it if I hadn't read it.

I've read that too,but had yet to see the headstone when i watch the movie :confused:

[Magneto_X]

www.chud.com/index.php?type=news&id=5856

I'm glad if this is true.

Grace just doesn't have the physique for Eddie Brock.

And we got James Cromwell! :)

[Legato]

Makes me wonder how are they gonna introduce Gwen Stacy at this point since it's kinda late to go with the "best friend since high school" idea.

[Nate Grey]

www.chud.com/index.php?type=news&id=5856

I'm glad if this is true.

Grace just doesn't have the physique for Eddie Brock.

And we got James Cromwell! :)

Followed the link to countingdown.com where the guy spoils the whole movie. Sorry, I don't believe a word of it. Great fanfiction, though.

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Makes me wonder how are they gonna introduce Gwen Stacy at this point since it's kinda late to go with the "best friend since high school" idea.Since the movie version of MJ has more than a little Gwen to her, I'd imagine we're going to see a very MJ-ish Gwen.

And I'm still hoping Grace is Brock. Being musclebound isn't critical to the character.

[Nate Grey]

Since the movie version of MJ has more than a little Gwen to her, I'd imagine we're going to see a very MJ-ish Gwen.

And I'm still hoping Grace is Brock. Being musclebound isn't critical to the character.

I agree on both points. I think the casting is good all around. And even if there's doubts, Raimi gave us two good Spidey movies already, no reason not to trust him now.

[Magneto_X]

I agree on both points. I think the casting is all around. And even if there's doubts, Raimi gave us two good Spidey movies already, no reason not to trust him now.

Agreed.

Riami's Spiderman films have always been great.

It'll be *way* better then X3.

[Dr. Banner]

It'll be *way* better then X3.

I don't know, after watching the 2 of them, I thought the effects were much better in X3, along with the fighting choreography (that Woverine/Juggernaut fight was insane!!), but, you're right, the character moments in Spider-Man 3 had more emotion and power to them (though the X-3 funeral scene was very well done). And I'll admit, I even shed a tear or two at the end when Peter gave that speech to Gwen at her father's grave.

[Legato]

It'll be *way* better then X3.

Im not even gonna go that far until I have actually seen X-3. If it could top the greatness that was X-2 then I would have got my moneys worth.

[IamtheRock3]

Brock doesnt have to be muscle bound

But he is supsose to be an intimidating Brutish kind of charcter..not sure Topher can pull that off.

[Legato]

With these new characters and villains coming out I hope Harry becoming the next Green Goblin story doesn't get putt off so that the new characters could be developed.

I wanna see the aftermath of Harry dicsovering his father's secret chamber.

[Magneto_X]

I don't know, after watching the 2 of them, I thought the effects were much better in X3, along with the fighting choreography (that Woverine/Juggernaut fight was insane!!), but, you're right, the character moments in Spider-Man 3 had more emotion and power to them (though the X-3 funeral scene was very well done). And I'll admit, I even shed a tear or two at the end when Peter gave that speech to Gwen at her father's grave.

I'm not talking about the special effects. Riami can deliver those (just not on the same scale) but the overall movie should make X3 look one dimensional in comparison.

Unlike Fox the Spider-franchise values quality over quantity. The script is one of the top priorities in their production---and they won't be rushing it to be there when Superman Returns is released.

Legato:

My guess is Riami is bringing Gwen in to start a love triangle between Gwen, Pete and MJ.

[Chintzy Beatnik]

With these new characters and villains coming out I hope Harry becoming the next Green Goblin story doesn't get putt off so that the new characters could be developed.

I wanna see the aftermath of Harry dicsovering his father's secret chamber.

It'll be hard enough with the two villians, let alone a third.

Harry becoming the Green Goblin is the storyline I'm most interested in seeing and I too hope it doesn't get lost along the way. I always hear Raimi and Franco saying that we're going to see the unexpected from that plot point, but I hope that doesn't mean that by finding out that his father was the Goblin will make Harry into a better person, or something like that.

I want to see him in the costume, battling his "brother" Spider-Man.

[elheffe]

I think I prefer to see Grace as Electro rather than Venom. The symbiote costume is just to far fetched for the Spider-Man movies.

[David Walton]

Brock doesnt have to be muscle bound

But he is supsose to be an intimidating Brutish kind of charcter..not sure Topher can pull that off.

It would be a departure from the comic books, but it's feasible that Venom could be a dark mirror Spider-Man. Grace has been suggested as an alternative for the role of Peter Parker if it ever came up because of the resemblance, as well as his snarky sense of humor in "That 70s Show". Grace's perverse sense of humor as Eddie might bring out more of Spidey's humor, which hasn't really been as strong as I'd like in the movies to date.

I really don't think that the muscle-bound Eddie has too much to offer in the way of character. He's a one-trick pony. It'd be great to see a dark Spidey, who has his powers without the sense of responsibility.

On a side note, wouldn't it be great if "That 70s Show" parodied Spider-Man similar to their Star Wars bit? I mean, it's a no-brainer. Red Foreman would make a great, dark Uncle Ben come to think of it.

"You just let that burglar shoot me, dumbass!"

[David Walton]

DUPLICATE

SORRY

[Dennis K]

Brock doesnt have to be muscle bound

But he is supsose to be an intimidating Brutish kind of charcter..not sure Topher can pull that off.


I was thinking the guy from those Transporter movies might make a good Eddie Brock.

[kalorama]

I find it hard to see Topher Grace as a villain of any kind. He projects no aura of menace or threat whatsoever. His name is "Topher" for god's sake. Who's afraid of a guy named Topher?

[Dennis K]

I find it hard to see Topher Grace as a villain of any kind. He projects no aura of menace or threat whatsoever.


That's why they call it acting.

[kalorama]

That's why they call it acting.

He's not that good an actor.

[Dennis K]

He's not that good an actor.


Oh really? I thought he was pretty good on That 70's Show as well the movie he did with Dennis Quaid, In Good Company (I think that was the name of it).

[David Walton]

Oh really? I thought he was pretty good on That 70's Show as well the movie he did with Dennis Quaid, In Good Company (I think that was the name of it).

He did great on both counts, so he's already proven his comic timing and dramatic capabilities. That's one reason why so many have pegged him for the Peter Parker role.

[kalorama]

Oh really? I thought he was pretty good on That 70's Show as well the movie he did with Dennis Quaid, In Good Company (I think that was the name of it).

I found him annoying on That 70's Show. Never saw In Good Company. He was pretty effective in P.S., but he was basically playing a variation on his TV character.

He did great on both counts, so he's already proven his comic timing and dramatic capabilities. That's one reason why so many have pegged him for the Peter Parker role.

He'd actually make a pretty good Peter Parker, because Peter Parker's personality falls into the same narrow range he's displayed on 70's show and in the films he's done. But nothing he's done up to now has given any hint that he's capable of effectively playing a truly menacing, fear-inspiring villain.

Then again Electro (if that's who he's playing) has often been portrayed for comic effect as a bumbling hard-luck loser whose ambition far exceeds his ability. I think that's a character Grace could probably pull off.

[David Walton]

He'd actually make a pretty good Peter Parker, because Peter Parker's personality falls into the same narrow range he's displayed on 70's show and in the films he's done. But nothing he's done up to now has given any hint that he's capable of effectively playing a truly menacing, fear-inspiring villain.

Well, since he's proved effective in both comedy and drama, I certainly don't discount the possibility that he could be a believable, intimidating villain. Some of it will be CGI anyhow. But putting that aside, I'd rather see a Venom who is the perverse mirror image of Spider-Man. I think it would work better, and make Venom more enduring.

Then again Electro (if that's who he's playing) has often been portrayed as a bumbling hard-luck loser who's ambition far exceeds his ability. I think that's a character Grace could probably pull off.

And Electro's never had any wit, which is a shame given Grace's delivery. What a waste.

[Basara]

Makes me wonder how are they gonna introduce Gwen Stacy at this point since it's kinda late to go with the "best friend since high school" idea.

Actually, Pete met Gwen at ESU and she was quite cold to him at first. So, introducing her in SM3 isn't far fetched, as he probably still will be attending ESU.

You are probably thinking of Liz Allen, the cute blonde girl Pete knew in high school who had a secret crush on him.

[kalorama]

For a guy who was supposed to be a soacially awkward nerd, Parker sure had a lot of attractive women chasing him around.

[riotgear]

Makes me wonder how are they gonna introduce Gwen Stacy at this point since it's kinda late to go with the "best friend since high school" idea.

Actually, Peter didn't know Gwen until college. He had a crush on a different blonde, Liz Allen, in high school. She, of course, eventually married Harry.

Edit: Sorry, Basara, didn't see your post. :)

[The Batman]

i think that Grace could make for a good Venom as he might be a little more obvious as Peter's opposite number or darker counterpart than someone who is too musclebound or too far removed from Maguire. with that in mind i am very curious about how they plan to handle the Venom costume/powers situation.

[The Joker]

Nice little story on the countingdown website, but the probability of it being fan ficition is way too high for me to believe a word of it. Although I would actually prefer Grace to appear as Electro in the next Spider-Man movie than as Eddie Brock.
Grace could likely do a good job with the role, but I'm not at all a fan of the whole "dark mirror" thing that I keep hearing about on the net. Raimi has always tried to keep the villians as reasonably close as possible to the comic book counterpart version (achieved a so-so job on GG, but did a better job with Ock), and Venom shouldnt be an exception. I dont really care about the Ultimate version either, we are talking about THE marvel universe Venom and thats the one I would really, and honestly would prefer to see come to life in a future Spider-Man film

But it's been stated countless times that Raimi is no fan of Venom. As that character wasnt a villian back when Raimi was growing up. Raimi's disinterest with the character leads me to believe that, A. The introduction of Brock may possibly be forced by the studio, and if that is the case, thats really a damn shame. And B. That the franchise should wait on Venom until Raimi leaves and a suitable replacement can be found that actually likes the character of Venom, and also can provide some emotional investment towards the character so that Venom can be fully, and best realized on the silver screen.

My 2 cents.

[Grant]

Okay here's a real reveal...

Here's a blurb (http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7781779&postcount=18) on the Superherohype boards from Thomas Haden Church. He doesn't come out and say who it is but he says Dunst was right about who Topher is playing.

It's Venom. Definately Venom.

[meethraa]

Could it be that Spiderman has the black suit throughout the movie?

[Grant]

Could it be that Spiderman has the black suit throughout the movie?

Who knows. I'm sure we'll find out in the next few months. It'd be kind of neat if he did though.

[Super Sonic]

Could it be that Spiderman has the black suit throughout the movie?

Nope, because when asked if Spidey would wear the Armour spidey costume in the movie, whoever answered said it was the same as the others.

[Cerberus]

Damn. If the symbiote fight turns out well then I'm happy, regardless of who's in the outfit.

[venom029]

its an exclusive on superhero hype

http://www.superherohype.com/news/featuresnews.php?id=3892

[Grant]

Can not wait for this movie.

Looks cool.

[Ravenheart]

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=110495


;)

[Donald M.]

I dunno, the black costume just doesn't look right with the raised webbing. I wonder how they're gonna explain the costume in the film. The Venom story could work if he were the only villain, but with another villain in there, plus introducing Gwen Stacy and her father it sounds like they might be trying to put too much into one film.

Still, I have faith in Raimi to pull it off after the great job he did with the first two films.

[Grant]

I dunno, the black costume just doesn't look right with the raised webbing. I wonder how they're gonna explain the costume in the film. The Venom story could work if he were the only villain, but with another villain in there, plus introducing Gwen Stacy and her father it sounds like they might be trying to put too much into one film.

Still, I have faith in Raimi to pull it off after the great job he did with the first two films.


I think it looks better. Gives it more texture. I'm not sure how they will balance all the storylines out but I think they can work everything out. It's probably going to be longest superhero movie ever though.

[venom029]

i just think of it as forshadowing for the black costume, cause it is a teaser poster

[Donald M.]

I think it looks better. Gives it more texture. I'm not sure how they will balance all the storylines out but I think they can work everything out. It's probably going to be longest superhero movie ever though.

I'm sure the suit will look better in the movie, it just doesn't look so great to me in that one picture.

I'm curious to see how they'll introduce Venom. Will they go the alien symbiote route or take it in another direction? I think a Venom who is basically Spider-Man without the moral compass could be a lot more interesting than the crazy alien suit "I'll eat your brains!" guy. A character I could actually like.

[Grant]

I'm sure the suit will look better in the movie, it just doesn't look so great to me in that one picture.

I'm curious to see how they'll introduce Venom. Will they go the alien symbiote route or take it in another direction? I think a Venom who is basically Spider-Man without the moral compass could be a lot more interesting than the crazy alien suit "I'll eat your brains!" guy. A character I could actually like.

I'm kind of hoping Venom is sort of like Faith in the third season of Buffy so yeah I'm hoping they are going that route too.

I'm not sure how they will introduce him but everything seems to confirm Topher will become a villan at the end of the movie. I suspect the suit will be something created in a lab and Eddie's motivation will have more to do with the Stacys verses the super lame "Spidey ruined my story" motivation.

I don't know. Anything that deviates from the comics is probably an improvement when it comes to Venom (except for the Todd McFarlane "normal guy teeth" I hope they keep those).

[meethraa]

I'm guessing it'll be John Jameson bringing it back from the moon...

But... what makes people think that's a black costume, other than the superherohype comment?

[Grant]

I'm guessing it'll be John Jameson bringing it back from the moon...

But... what makes people think that's a black costume, other than the superherohype comment?

Just specualting I guess. I'm not entirely sure myself.

[Captain Trips]

That looks pretty cool. I think Spidey's pose suggests a darker tone as much as the color of the photo does.

I guess I am out of the loop, but does the black costume mean that Venom is one of the villains and not Electro? And does anyone know why the black suit looks like the red and blue one instead of the way the black one looks in the comics?

[Grant]

That looks pretty cool. I think Spidey's pose suggests a darker tone as much as the color of the photo does.

I guess I am out of the loop, but does the black costume mean that Venom is one of the villains and not Electro? And does anyone know why the black suit looks like the red and blue one instead of the way the black one looks in the comics?

Venom sort of is confirmed. Dunst accidently let it slip at press conference and Thomas Hayden Church confirmed Dunst was right in a magazine article.

[meethraa]

Just specualting I guess. I'm not entirely sure myself.
Ah, okay. Thought I might be missing something. Though I'm sure it was no accident they made it look like that, even if that's not the black costume itself.
Personally, I'd like to see it without the webbing, though I have no idea how that would look in real life...
And I was half-expecting to find some clue on the eye's reflection, so that was a bit disapointing.

[Captain Trips]

Ah, okay. Thought I might be missing something. Though I'm sure it was no accident they made it look like that, even if that's not the black costume itself.
Personally, I'd like to see it without the webbing, though I have no idea how that would look in real life...
And I was half-expecting to find some clue on the eye's reflection, so that was a bit disapointing.

I was looking for a reflection in the eye piece as well. Maybe it's too early for that yet. Even though that picture of Thomas Hayden Church has already come out, I have a feeling that the next time we see an official photo of Sandman, we will get to see his powers in some fashion (like how the first shot of the Green Goblin was on his glider, and the first shot of Dr. Octopus showed off his mechanical arms).

Maybe, if Spidey really does wear the black costume in the movie, he will wear more than one version of it. The first being a black one that more closely resembles his red and blue suit. Then maybe it changes more to how the black one looks in the comics. I have no idea. I am staying away from spoilers for the most part, so I am just speculating.

[Grant]

Ah, okay. Thought I might be missing something. Though I'm sure it was no accident they made it look like that, even if that's not the black costume itself.
Personally, I'd like to see it without the webbing, though I have no idea how that would look in real life...
And I was half-expecting to find some clue on the eye's reflection, so that was a bit disapointing.

Well I'm wrong Sony says it's the black costume (http://spiderman.sonypictures.com/) for sure.

Quint at AICN claims he can see the Green Goblin the eye. I see something that sort of looks like that.

[meethraa]

Well I'm wrong Sony says it's the black costume (http://spiderman.sonypictures.com/) for sure.

Humm... that's bittersweet. One on hand I'd been praying for a Venom/black costume movie in my lifetime, but on the other... that's basically the same costume only black.
Maybe it looks better in motion, though.

[Grant]

Humm... that's bittersweet. One on hand I'd been praying for a Venom/black costume movie in my lifetime, but on the other... that's basically the same costume only black.
Maybe it looks better in motion, though.

We still don't know what the Venom costume is going to look like. Venom might feature the white & black look.

Even though it's the same costume but black I think it looks pretty slick. But then again I'm never been a big fan of the black costume. I can't wait for him to go back to the red & blue..

[SlightlyMad]

In an interview (http://www.superherohype.com/news/spider-mannews.php?id=4077) with Thomas Hayden Church, in which he talks a bit about Sandman & mentions Venom:

"I'm overwhelmed every time I'm around Sam," Church says. "He's been showing me [stuff] since the beginning of last summer. 'This is what we are going to be doing in this sequence, this is what Spider-Man is going to be doing and this is what Venom is going to be doing.' It is a massive, massive process."

So, that combined with Kirsten Dunst's earlier mention (http://www.superherohype.com/news/spider-mannews.php?id=3510) pretty much confirms our two villains!

[ChrisIII]

Judging by the website, it seems to be the route they're taking.

http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/spiderman3/site/


I'm guessing we'll probably see the death of a major character who isn't a villain or Uncle Ben.

[HomerJay]

Supposedly 2 characters die.
From what I've heard, the second one goes out during the climax in a very cool heroic manner. But as we all know, this could be WAY off.

Spoilers:
Supposedly, Venom kills Aunt May and Harry (as the Goblin) fights alongside Peter/Spidey against Sandman and Venom, dying in the fight.
End

[hugh45]

Supposedly 2 characters die.
From what I've heard, the second one goes out during the climax in a very cool heroic manner. But as we all know, this could be WAY off.

Spoilers:
Supposedly, Venom kills Aunt May and Harry (as the Goblin) fights alongside Peter/Spidey against Sandman and Venom, dying in the fight.
End

Actually a Capt. Stacy is suppose to appear in3.

[spideyrules99]

Would make sense if Capt Stacy died. Would love to see Aunt May die.

[xnef1025]

I have doubts about the first half of that spoiler, but the second half sounds plausible. I'd think it more likely that Gwen or Capt Stacey would be more likely.

[Arrjay]

From what I've heard...

Hell yes!

If what is written in your spoiler tags actually happens in the movie I will be one thoroughly happy pseudo-cinematic new-wave cultural extremist indeed.

[HomerJay]

Hell yes!

If what is written in your spoiler tags actually happens in the movie I will be one thoroughly happy pseudo-cinematic new-wave cultural extremist indeed.
I've heard the theme of this installment is the potential of power to corrupt if abused (makes perfect sense with Venom and the choices Harry makes).

[kalorama]

I hope it's a little darker. I've liked the somewhat lighter tone to the series so far, but some of Raimi's B-movie roots are a bit too prominent. I look at this as the "Ditko" era of the film series. It they continue after #3, I hope it's with a different director (and maybe a different leading man) and that they move it into a bit edgier "Romita/Kane" period.

[sir_snikt'alot]

considering every comic book adaptation is 'dark' these days,spider man was bound to jump on the bandwagon.

[JCAll]

considering every comic book adaptation is 'dark' these days,spider man was bound to jump on the bandwagon.
Considering that it's done by Sam Raimi though, Spiderman could actually do it well.

[Ghost_rider_x3]

Spiderman three poster shows Spiderman with a Black Costume!

What do you think this means?

[Phil Clark]

That you missed the discussions about introducing Venom by the end of the film. Topher Grace is playing Eddie Brock.

[the film freak]

Check out some of these photos (http://www.savingfaceforum.com/index.php?showtopic=21218) from the NYC shoot.

I kind of dig the Junky Peter look when he's wearing the black suit.

[the film freak]

More Spider-man NYC shots (http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=23448)

You can see Topher sporting a camera and blonde hair, Bryce Dallas Howard and James Cromwell as the Stacys and the classic Spidey suit.

[elheffe]

More Spider-man NYC shots (http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=23448)

You can see Topher sporting a camera and blonde hair, Bryce Dallas Howard and James Cromwell as the Stacys and the classic Spidey suit.
I'm not totally on board with the whole Venom thing, but if anyone can pull it off, it's Sam Raimi.

[Jared]

A friend of mine is slated to be a PA on Spider-Man 3 during the summer. I'll try to wring as much info out of him as I can.

[Spidaman]

Yea, I knew a long time ago before I got on this site that it was gonna be Sandman. I read it in a magazine somewhere. I don't think that will be that bad. Look he's a common thug with power. Meaning he will do more robbing and all that good stuff that common criminals do. All what am I saying he's the one of the worst ones to pick.

Now, I heard that they already had a contract signed to make 7 movies of Spider-Man. They have already made 2+the 1 that is coming out. So if this is true they will make 4 more after that. If what I heard is wrong would anybody like to clear it up for me?

[the film freak]

I'm not totally on board with the whole Venom thing, but if anyone can pull it off, it's Sam Raimi.

I kind of feel the same way. But apparently Venom is only going to be in the last third of the movie.

[the film freak]

Avi Arad says there will be four villans in Spider-man 3 (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=14808)

So it looks like we're getting Sandman, Goblin, Venom and someone else?

Doc Ock or Green Goblin I makes another appearance? Doc Conner finally becomes the Lizard? Jameson becomes Manwolf? Maybe Vulture or Electro makes a cameo appearance. There's a rumour Bruce Campbell is playing Quentin Beck so maybe Mysterio drops in?

[the film freak]

Now, I heard that they already had a contract signed to make 7 movies of Spider-Man. They have already made 2+the 1 that is coming out. So if this is true they will make 4 more after that. If what I heard is wrong would anybody like to clear it up for me?

I heard something like that. But that could mean a lot of things. It could mean once Raimi and Maguire are done with the franchise they could do another couple of Spider-man movies with someone else in the lead and directing it.

[Nate Grey]

Avi Arad says there will be four villans in Spider-man 3 (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=14808)

So it looks like we're getting Sandman, Goblin, Venom and someone else?

Doc Ock or Green Goblin I makes another appearance? Doc Conner finally becomes the Lizard? Jameson becomes Manwolf? Maybe Vulture or Electro makes a cameo appearance. There's a rumour Bruce Campbell is playing Quentin Beck so maybe Mysterio drops in?

I say none other than Hydro-Man.

[the film freak]

I say none other than Hydro-Man.

Or Stegron.

[Nate Grey]

Or Stegron.

Seriously, there's already a comic story where Spidey had to face Hydro-Man and Sandman at the same time, resulting in both fusing into a mud-like creature. I wouldn't be surprised if they do something very similar in the movie and save the other villains you mentioned for future sequels.

[elheffe]

Avi Arad says there will be four villans in Spider-man 3 (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=14808)

So it looks like we're getting Sandman, Goblin, Venom and someone else?

Doc Ock or Green Goblin I makes another appearance? Doc Conner finally becomes the Lizard? Jameson becomes Manwolf? Maybe Vulture or Electro makes a cameo appearance. There's a rumour Bruce Campbell is playing Quentin Beck so maybe Mysterio drops in?
Captain Stacy's in it, and Doc Ock inadvertently killed him in the comic, so maybe the Doc's back. (OK, that's pretty doubtful) Mysterio would be cool. What about the Chameleon?

[West Mantooth]

The third villian is going to be the Green Goblin. Harry is haunted by him.

[the film freak]

Here's some interesting set reports (http://www.superherohype.com/news/spider-mannews.php?id=4334)

Potential Spoilers for sure.

So Apparently two bad guys team up and some giant CGI creature is involved.

I think this could be Sandman. Though it might be Mysterio doing some wacky illusion (there was a rumour while back Bruce Campbell would be playing Quentein Beck).

Or stay with me here... Stegron the dinosaur man.

http://www.spidervillain.com/Villains/Stegron/StegronWSMAnn3.gif

[Nate Grey]

Here's some interesting set reports (http://www.superherohype.com/news/spider-mannews.php?id=4334)

Potential Spoilers for sure.

So Apparently two bad guys team up and some giant CGI creature is involved.

I think this could be Sandman. Though it might be Mysterio doing some wacky illusion (there was a rumour while back Bruce Campbell would be playing Quentein Beck).

Or stay with me here... Stegron the dinosaur man.

Sounds more like Sandman or Hydro-Man to me. Both can make themselves bigger. I don't know about Hydro-Man, but Sandman can turn his hands into axes or maces, which is what the swiping could be about.

[the film freak]

Sounds more like Sandman or Hydro-Man to me. Both can make themselves bigger. I don't know about Hydro-Man, but Sandman can turn his hands into axes or maces, which is what the swiping could be about.

It's probably Sandman. I've read already reports and looks like we're getting a giant Sandman. Which is pretty awesome.

[Ontir]

I've seen a picture, somewhere online, of Thomas Hayden Church in the tradittional Sandman striped shirt. I believer that's who he is. When is "3" out? I thought it was this summer.

[Phil Clark]

Next May. 331 days from now.

[Patient Boy]

The WireImage photos in the new Comics to Reel update. I don't know if this is a "current" event rather than a flashback or a dream sequence, and if it's an actual scene from the movie rather than two guys talking on set. I'll admit then, I'm baffled. And stoked.

[1WEBHEAD]

Spoilers!

Fair warning !

Im serious...

The four villians are Harry as the new green goblin, SandMan, Venom, and the forth mystery villian who makes a cameo is Quentin Beck as Mysterio. In the final battle Harry teams up with Spidey to fight Venom. This came from the website called darkhorizons.(I dont know how reliable this website is though) I placed a link in the SpiderMan 3 thread in the SpiderMan forum.

[Dark Soul # 7]

It'll probably not be like this but I'll pray for it, no I won't.

Eliza Dushku as Black Cat!

[Rollo_Tomasi]

It'll probably not be like this but I'll pray for it, no I won't.

Eliza Dushku as Black Cat!

a man can dream can't he?

[StoneGold]

http://www.newsaramablog.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10006/spiderman3poster.jpg

[Chou Blaster]

The Giant Creature ha sto be Sand Man.

As I saw a Giant Sand creature in the Preview to SPdier Man 3.

(Unless there is something bigger than that giant mofo.)

[the film freak]

Yeah this is what you think it is.

http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/pics/venom-transform.jpg

AICN talks about Spider-man 3 Panel at Comic COn (http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=23949)

[the film freak]

The Venom pic is cool but I prefer this one of Sandman.

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d6/daveanator/con06-spidey2.jpg

[CDB]

Yeah this is what you think it is.

http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/pics/venom-transform.jpg

AICN talks about Spider-man 3 Panel at Comic COn (http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=23949)



How many days til June 5 ,2007? :eek:

[Captain Trips]

Looks like Eddie Brock being taken over by the costume:

http://www.comics2film.com/FanFrame.php?f_id=21062

Sorry, I didn't know that this had already been posted.

[meethraa]

So... is there a clip to go with those new pictures or what?

[Captain Trips]

So... is there a clip to go with those new pictures or what?

There's a description of the clip that was shown at Comic-Con here: http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=23949

No footage has been released to the public... yet.

[curefreak]

im really curious why theyre leaking so much stuff for a movie thats not gonna be released for a year:confused:

[Sean Walsh]

im really curious why theyre leaking so much stuff for a movie thats not gonna be released for a year:confused:

Because they can't really make a big deal about Spidey 3 at next year's Comic-Con, now can they? ;)

[curefreak]

Because they can't really make a big deal about Spidey 3 at next year's Comic-Con, now can they? ;)
no obviously not... but im constantly surprised about how much stuff they have released so far,
not just counting the whole thing at comic con wich wasnt that surprising but you know then again theres supposedly four villians and we still dont know who the fourth one is for sure .

[Captain Trips]

no obviously not... but im constantly surprised about how much stuff they have released so far,
not just counting the whole thing at comic con wich wasnt that surprising but you know then again theres supposedly four villians and we still dont know who the fourth one is for sure .


True, but the stuff that has been released so far has only been seen by the die-hard fans. This represents a small minority of the movie-going audience. It generates a buzz in the community and gets people excited to see the film, but the majority of people won't see a good deal of info on this film until trailers and commercials come out next year.

I remember hearing about a 4th villain as well. I wonder what that was about? Peter as an evil Spidey?

[curefreak]

True, but the stuff that has been released so far has only been seen by the die-hard fans. This represents a small minority of the movie-going audience. It generates a buzz in the community and gets people excited to see the film, but the majority of people won't see a good deal of info on this film until trailers and commercials come out next year.

I remember hearing about a 4th villain as well. I wonder what that was about? Peter as an evil Spidey?
mostly the talk centers around mysterio for some reason..... and im sure a lot of people have seen the new trailer for spidey 3 by know.

[nervmeister]

http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0413300/Ss/0413300/SM3_venom.jpg?path=gallery&path_key=0413300

Creepiest poster ever!

[madevil]

http://www.sonypictures.com/movies/spiderman3/site/downloads/wallpapers/wallpaper2_1280.html

o.O

OMFG YAY!

My first thought when I heard "his black costume" was Venom but I never thought they'de even get into any of that.... so just YAY, ok?

[glue]

This is my first time seeing it and I think it looks cool.

[nervmeister]

Notice the sharpened teeth.

[madevil]

Notice the sharpened teeth.
*twitches*

[madevil]

mostly the talk centers around mysterio for some reason..... and im sure a lot of people have seen the new trailer for spidey 3 by know.


http://artpad.art.com/?j3b11l1jqqa8

[curefreak]

http://artpad.art.com/?j3b11l1jqqa8
ok that was really weird.

[scottv]

I saw the preview for the first time when I saw Superman. I thought that the Spider-man 3 preview was the best part of the whole night. The entire movie I kept saying, "How about replaying that preview instead of this crap."

[SlightlyMad]

Here. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=C5-WSrFEV9I)

If not, that's a pretty impressive piece of home-made CGI.

[SoulOnIce]

Here. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=C5-WSrFEV9I)

If not, that's a pretty impressive piece of home-made CGI.

From the video game someone says in the comments.

[Chiasm]

From the video game someone says in the comments.

I hope so.

It was impressive as far as video games standards go but for the movie that would be awful.

[the film freak]

Wouldn't be surprised if that's what he looked like.

-Grant

[the_coldest_sun]

I can't believe people would actually believe thats from the movie.

[Dennis K]

It looked like claymation to me.

[Frankie Dennis]

This looks like something from a video game, or maybe It's just some really nice home made CGI. I'm not sure.

[Captain Murphy]

Like a person said in the comment, he looks like a happy puppy

[scottv]

Yea I am pretty sure that is from the video game.

[the film freak]

Like a person said in the comment, he looks like a happy puppy

That's kind of how Venom usually looks. At least after Erik Larsen and Mark Bagley started drawing him.

[The Joker]

I saw the preview for the first time when I saw Superman. I thought that the Spider-man 3 preview was the best part of the whole night. The entire movie I kept saying, "How about replaying that preview instead of this crap."

Happy to hear I wasnt alone in that. :evilsmile

[Peter Parker]

I can't believe no one have made this thread yet! :eek: Anyway, the teaser is long, long out and production images have been seen on the web (no pun intended), yet if you look at the teaser using Quicktime, you will see a few details, specific ones.

Now, why am I pointing this out? Because most people, when watching trailers (even teasers), failed to notice the very few details in them. Like for example, if you slow down the play rate, you can see that Harry is not wearing the same outfit his father worn, it does not have a full "goblin head" helm this time, it is something like an air mask from a "Resident Evil" movie. And IMHO, Gwen in S3 does not really look "all that". Well, not from the teaser at least (only showed the side of her face).

And does anyone know how the symbiotic is going to come to Earth? Since there will not be a "Secret Wars" trilogy/tetralogy/whatever-logy coming up anytime soon, the origin is yet, unknown (I have checked IMDB, nothing). Anyone want to shed the light on things? :confused:

And also, it looks like the Harry/Mary Jane relationship will be brought up in this file (according to the teaser anyway) once again, comflict during the time when Peter is going to have his suit? Sure hope Pete does not do something stupid (even if he does, Green Goblin II is probably out anyway).

This file is probably going to turn out great, and the other sequels (it was announced that there will be seven movies in total in case some of you still does not know that) will probably get better. Me and my friends are betting on Carnage on the next one, and Mysterio on the fifth.

Now, your opinions please. :D

[lboinyamouf4sho]

i want kraven and the lizard is long overdue

[Peter Parker]

The Lizard was supposed to be in the second film but somehow did not appear, so it was, like you said, overdue once again, maybe till the third or fourth film huh? :D

[lboinyamouf4sho]

The Lizard was supposed to be in the second film but somehow did not appear, so it was, like you said, overdue once again, maybe till the third or fourth film huh? :D


in the 1st they dropped his name, in the 2nd they introduce his character onscreen, the fact that venom is in the 3rd film and the lizard isn't pisses me off. of course i still xpect a great movie like the last 2 but still.

lizard>venom

[Peter Parker]

Boy, I would sure love to see the two battling out, and you will know how wrong you are! :p Spidey had a much easier time battling Lizzy than having to battle Venom! That is why the Venom is second the be the worst enemy of Spidey (Gobey being the first).

[lboinyamouf4sho]

Boy, I would sure love to see the two battling out, and you will know how wrong you are! :p Spidey had a much easier time battling Lizzy than having to battle Venom! That is why the Venom is second the be the worst enemy of Spidey (Gobey being the first).


i mean as a character though, very tragic origin and all that. spidey always had a hard time with the animalistic types too, see vermin.

[the film freak]

Hannibal posted a link (http://www.kid4life.com/yoda2/2006images/MR_SPIDER.jpg) to some pictures of Venom and other SPider-man 3 maquettes on the front page.

Basically looks like Venom with some webbing texture.

[wingsofdamnation]

I can't believe no one have made this thread yet! :eek: Anyway, the teaser is long, long out and production images have been seen on the web (no pun intended), yet if you look at the teaser using Quicktime, you will see a few details, specific ones.

Now, why am I pointing this out? Because most people, when watching trailers (even teasers), failed to notice the very few details in them. Like for example, if you slow down the play rate, you can see that Harry is not wearing the same outfit his father worn, it does not have a full "goblin head" helm this time, it is something like an air mask from a "Resident Evil" movie. And IMHO, Gwen in S3 does not really look "all that". Well, not from the teaser at least (only showed the side of her face).

And does anyone know how the symbiotic is going to come to Earth? Since there will not be a "Secret Wars" trilogy/tetralogy/whatever-logy coming up anytime soon, the origin is yet, unknown (I have checked IMDB, nothing). Anyone want to shed the light on things? :confused:

And also, it looks like the Harry/Mary Jane relationship will be brought up in this file (according to the teaser anyway) once again, comflict during the time when Peter is going to have his suit? Sure hope Pete does not do something stupid (even if he does, Green Goblin II is probably out anyway).

This file is probably going to turn out great, and the other sequels (it was announced that there will be seven movies in total in case some of you still does not know that) will probably get better. Me and my friends are betting on Carnage on the next one, and Mysterio on the fifth.

Now, your opinions please. :D
the symbiot is going to come to earth in the form of an asteroid. i saw a venom teaser trailer and it showed the symbiot oozing out of an asteroid and scientists analizing it. then a whole mess of spidey in the suit and we dont see venom at all but yeah...asteroid

[wingsofdamnation]

Hannibal posted a link (http://www.kid4life.com/yoda2/2006images/MR_SPIDER.jpg) to some pictures of Venom and other SPider-man 3 maquettes on the front page.

Basically looks like Venom with some webbing texture.
how did you view the image. it wont let me view it.

[the film freak]

how did you view the image. it wont let me view it.

Sony took the picture down.

Basically it looked like comic book Venom with raised Spider-man webbing around his torso.

[wingsofdamnation]

the symbiot is going to come to earth in the form of an asteroid. i saw a venom teaser trailer and it showed the symbiot oozing out of an asteroid and scientists analizing it. then a whole mess of spidey in the suit and we dont see venom at all but yeah...asteroid

did anyone else see this trailer?

[artist2b]

Awhile back there was a picture of sketches for Spider-man 3 statues on a site. It showed one that was supposedly Eddie Brock fully transformed into Venom. Does anybody know where that picture is?:confused:

[EZMOHR]

Awhile back there was a picture of sketches for Spider-man 3 statues on a site. It showed one that was supposedly Eddie Brock fully transformed into Venom. Does anybody know where that picture is?:confused:

Taken down by the original website. I'm sure someone save it somewhere.

[the film freak]

Awhile back there was a picture of sketches for Spider-man 3 statues on a site. It showed one that was supposedly Eddie Brock fully transformed into Venom. Does anybody know where that picture is?:confused:

Nope. He basically looks like Venom. There's some raised webbing around his torso but that's basically it. I'm not sure what color the spider logo will be either but it was fairly big. It's pretty faithful.

[Captain Trips]

I'm sure everyone knows about it, but I'm excited to see it:

SPIDER-MAN 3 TRAILER TO DEBUT EXCLUSIVELY ACROSS MULTIPLE VIACOM PLATFORMS AND ON CBS

Unprecedented Trailer Road Block to Premiere Thursday, Nov. 9, at approximately 10 p.m. (ET/PT), on BET, CBS, Comedy Central, Logo, MTV, MTV2, Spike TV and VH1

Following Television Premiere, High-Definition Version of Trailer to be Posted Exclusively on MTV Networks' IFILM.com

[Sean Walsh]

I did not know anything about this. Sounds like I'll keep CSI on a couple more minutes instead of flipping the TV off right at 10.

Thanks for the heads up. :)

[CDB]

Just to check again...10 p.m. (ET/PT) is 9 p.m. Central time right. :confused:

[Michael P]

Just to check again...10 p.m. (ET/PT) is 9 p.m. Central time right. :confused:
This is correct.

[LordEd1976]

I usually watch ER at 10pm but I think I can skip the opening. If my luck holds out the only I really miss is the recap and just the first few seconds. But even if I miss alot it will be worth it.

[Frankie Dennis]

I shouldn't be so excited for a damn trailer but I can't help it.

Just a few hours now.

[1WEBHEAD]

:D I'm excited!!!

Hopefully we'll see Venom in action!:cool:

:)

[Davideaux]

Dear God, that was fantastic!

[Captain Trips]

WOW!

What did everyone think?

[DonC]

I missed most of it. That sucks. Time to head over to ifilm.com.

[Davideaux]

WOW!

What did everyone think?

I had chills. It seems like this chapter will be very plot heavy. Parts of the trailer seemed to be too revealing, i.e. Harry in traction.

However, the mystery of where the suit comes from wasn't hinted at, so I appreciate that.

I can't wait.

[Jonah Weiland]

You can see the trailer and check out high res screen grabs right here on CBR:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=8862

[Frankie Dennis]

Damn no Venom! I guess It's still too early to see him.

The movie looks awesome though.

[Armless Penguin]

I don't know. I'm kind of disappointed. The movie looks awesome, but we didn't really see anything necessarily "new," just expanded on points of the teaser. The lack of Venom was expected (though not desired), but the absence of Gwen leads me to believe she may not be as major a character as she'd been made out (re: I'd hoped her) to be.

[wingsofdamnation]

wait... i just watched csi and they didnt show the trailer. did couldnt have missed it cause i watched it beginning to end. did it not show yet?

[Captain Trips]

Didn't see Venom. But I am sure they are saving him for a big reveal.

The one thing I like most about these movies is that it isn't just Spider-man versus the villain of the week. There is a reason for the characters to be there. And what happens to Peter is just as compelling as what happens to Spider-man.

This movie just looks flat out awesome.

[Sean Walsh]

The only thing that bothered me, I guess, was the symbiote (or whatever it is in the movie) just suddenly seeping up and consuming him.

I know they shouldn't be telling us in the trailer (bless em for keeping it hush hush) but it seemed very odd that suddenly it just shows up. Then again, they *have* to show it in the trailer *and* have to keep something a secret. Weird. :p

[Tobias March]

Wtf? Sandman did what?.....shrugs

Well it beats when he was The Mighty Strobe in the Specials (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0181836/)

:D

[Chevan]

I thought it looked pretty good.

I watched the huge-ass HD version from Ifilm, though that might have been a mistake. Maybe it's just me, but the rendering they did on the Venom suit looks a little... lackluster.

I wouldn't really mind that if they hadn't done such a flawless job integrating CG sequences into the live-action film for the second movie.

[Michael P]

Wtf? Sandman did what?.....shrugs
Yeah, I dunno how I feel about that.

Rest of it looks kickass, though.

[J. Robb]

Wtf? Sandman did what?.....shrugs
Yeah, that's a pretty important change if true, which is why I think it will turn out not to be. But I guess we'll find out in six months...

Spidey holding Sandman's face against the train was pretty sweet, though.

[dwiese]

So is the sandman now suppose to be Uncle Ben's killer?

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[Michael P]

Spidey holding Sandman's face against the train was pretty sweet, though.
Yeah, that kicked ass. I wonder if they got the idea from Sin City.

(Dude, dwiese, spoiler text.)

[Arune Singh]

Yeah, that kicked ass. I wonder if they got the idea from Sin City.

(Dude, dwiese, spoiler text.)


but he doesn't need it...it's stated right in the trailer. Or am I confused?

[dwiese]

(Dude, dwiese, spoiler text.)


Honestly, who is going to be reading this forum without watching the trailer first?

[Captain Trips]

but he doesn't need it...it's stated right in the trailer. Or am I confused?

No, you're right. Peter's thirst for vengeance and how it consumes him is a major theme of this movie, so quickly explaining where that is coming from in the trailer makes sense to me.

[JimmyDee]

I think what I'm most impressed by is the fact that these films don't increasingly suck as the series moves forward. They actually seem to be getting better! Spider-Man 2 was a marked improvement over Spider-Man 1. Spider-Man 3 looks to have a very solid story filled with great conflict and heart.

Yeah, this trailer got me excited, and very few trailers these days do -- especially for the big blockbusters.

Man, Columbia is going to make another small fortune off this franchise. Could this become the most profitable franchice in film history after just 3 films? I'd be curious to know the answer to that. Sure, they've got Star Trek, Star Wars and the Bond films to contend with, but look at the box office on these suckers.

[melike2]

yeah i dont knwo if we need spoilers fo rthis. Not sure how i feel about that though - that could mess up a lot of stuff..

[Gilda Dent]

I think what I'm most impressed by is the fact that these films don't increasingly suck as the series moves forward. They actually seem to be getting better! Spider-Man 2 was a marked improvement over Spider-Man 1. Spider-Man 3 looks to have a very solid story filled with great conflict and heart.

Yeah, this trailer got me excited, and very few trailers these days do -- especially for the big blockbusters.

Man, Columbia is going to make another small fortune off this franchise. Could this become the most profitable franchice in film history after just 3 films? I'd be curious to know the answer to that. Sure, they've got Star Trek, Star Wars and the Bond films to contend with, but look at the box office on these suckers.

LOTR and Harry Potter, too.

[Error_2.0]

I imagine Harry is bribing people to frame Sandman for Ben's death just to screw with Spidey's head.

And the trailer didn't do much for me. The teaser was way better and it would have been nice if it would have shown what is so great about this new suit. He said something about the power of it and then he did a flip on a building like he has in the other movies, then it showed him putting it in a briefcase and that was it. I remember, in the animated series, the suit actually seeping into his skin whenever he wanted to put it away... right now the only difference is that this suit is black.

[Patman]

I just happened to be channel-surfing and came across the trailer on Shark in HD. Some of the special effects looks very surreal, like Raimi is employing a more animated palette, rather than making it look as realistic as possible. I wish they didn't give so much away, but perhaps we'll be surprised at what wasn't shown yet.

[JimmyDee]

LOTR and Harry Potter, too.True. Although, I think Spidey can take 'em all! He's got that whole webbing thing, ya know!

[EZMOHR]

I liked the trailer, but was more enthused by the car being thrown into the diner from Spidey Two trailer.

And, I didn't want to see Venom in the trailer, just a hint. I wish there was more than just ONE scene with Topher Grace. And, it looks like Harry might be taken care of early in the movie...which I don't think I would be cool with.

The more I see of this movie...I can see it almost be a movie with way too much going on and definetly a movie that will be in three parts......Spidey takes care of Harry in Act 1 and feels pretty damn strong about himself. Spidey gets big headed and finds the symbiote and deals with revenge and takes it out on Sandman in Act 2, until he comes to his senses in Act 3, loses the symbiote, and see what he could have become with the fight with Venom in Act 3.

I will be there May 4th, because the other two were great films....but this trailer didn't jazz me up. At all. I just want to see the movie, and have my fears alievieated.

[malephoenix]

I think what I'm most impressed by is the fact that these films don't increasingly suck as the series moves forward. They actually seem to be getting better! Spider-Man 2 was a marked improvement over Spider-Man 1. Spider-Man 3 looks to have a very solid story filled with great conflict and heart.


I thought Spider-Man 2 was stellar until I read Alex Ross' take on it. I still like it, but he makes some sense, and I no longer think it's as great as I did.

But I wonder about what you're saying about the most profitable film franchise ever. Wouldn't be surprised.

[CDB]

Saw it on BET!! I'll be in the theater on May 4th!!;) :cool:

[Gilda Dent]

Right now, the Spider-Man series is sixth is US gross, behind Star Wars, James Bond, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, and Batman. It will leapfrog Batman quite easily, probably LOTR, and maybe Harry Potter or Bond, but Star Wars is over 2 billion, so it would take something like four or five as popular as the first two to overtake it. With new Bond, Spider-Man, and Harry Potter movies all coming out in the next year, my guess is that when they're all done, we'll see Star Wars still safe up top, Harry Potter and Bond switching places, and Spider-Man up a couple of spots to fourth.

In terms of worldwide grosses, it's way down on the list at number nine:

Star Wars
James Bond
Harry Potter
Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings
Jurassic Park
Pirates of the Caribbean
Batman
Matrix
Spider-Man

It should easily jump ahead of the Matrix, Batman, POTC, and Jurassic park franchises, none of which have a new installment coming this year, though there will be a third POTC eventually. Bond is just short of Star Wars world wide, and should get pretty close with this years installment, and Harry Potter could also make it close based on past performance.

Give it a few years and three more movies and you'll see the Harry Potter series in first place far ahead of Bond/Star Wars in second place.

Source. (http://www.the-numbers.com/movies/series/franchisesW.php)

Oh, and the trailer is very cool. If you look really closely, there's a very brief shot of Venom swinging away with Mary Jane.

[EZMOHR]

Yeah, but the Batman, POTC, HP, Bond, Jurassic Park, and hell, even LotR have a shot at having some more movie as well....just like Spidey.


Though, I see Spidey being at top 4, 3 ever. I think Star Wars stays #1 as well.

[Gilda Dent]

Yeah, but the Batman, POTC, HP, Bond, Jurassic Park, and hell, even LotR have a shot at having some more movie as well....just like Spidey.


Though, I see Spidey being at top 4, 3 ever. I think Star Wars stays #1 as well.

Sure, and there'll be some shuffling along the way. I think Harry Potter at #1 when the series is finished is a safe bet, and very likely by the time the sixth movie is done. It's making close to 900 million worldwide per installment, and the last movie will be huge, probably topping a billion dollars by itself. I don't see anything new coming from Star Wars. POTC will be really big in its third installment, but the series likely ends there. Bond will continue with a new movie every three to four years, but not making nearly the same type of numbers as Harry Potter or Spider-Man. Harry Potter is going to end up on top for a good period of time. Where Spider-Man eventually ends up will depend on how many movies are made and how well they sustain the same performance level.

[EZMOHR]

Sure, and there'll be some shuffling along the way. I think Harry Potter at #1 when the series is finished is a safe bet, and very likely by the time the sixth movie is done. It's making close to 900 million worldwide per installment, and the last movie will be huge, probably topping a billion dollars by itself. I don't see anything new coming from Star Wars. POTC will be really big in its third installment, but the series likely ends there. Bond will continue with a new movie every three to four years, but not making nearly the same type of numbers as Harry Potter or Spider-Man. Harry Potter is going to end up on top for a good period of time. Where Spider-Man eventually ends up will depend on how many movies are made and how well they sustain the same performance level.


They keep saying Depp will do more POTC movies if they are written well. I don't know if that is crap or not..but it coud happen.

[J. Robb]

Another series may gross more at the box office than Star Wars, but I think it would take a lot to overtake the Star Wars franchise as "most profitable". The licensing and merchandising has made billions more than the movies themselves.

[Cthulhudrew]

So is the sandman now suppose to be Uncle Ben's killer?

Don't worry, when Spider-Man Begins comes out, they'll retcon it back to Joe Chill.

[GRANT!]

I liked the trailer, but was more enthused by the car being thrown into the diner from Spidey Two trailer.

Oh definately. It needed that one WTF moment. But the trailer did it's job of keep me convinced that the Spidey franchise is still awesome.

And, I didn't want to see Venom in the trailer, just a hint. I wish there was more than just ONE scene with Topher Grace.

There were two. One of him saying "Love the new outfit" and one totally badass shot of Peter throwing him against a wall and breaking some glass. Now that's a reason for Eddie to hate Peter.

The more I see of this movie...I can see it almost be a movie with way too much going on and definetly a movie that will be in three parts......Spidey takes care of Harry in Act 1 and feels pretty damn strong about himself. Spidey gets big headed and finds the symbiote and deals with revenge and takes it out on Sandman in Act 2, until he comes to his senses in Act 3, loses the symbiote, and see what he could have become with the fight with Venom in Act 3.

I don't think it'll be as clear cut as that. There seems to be a lot going on but I think the storylines will work well with each other.

Sounds more like it will be Peter finds out about Sandman killing his Uncle, goes after Sandman with a vengence in the black suit and goes to the dark side and probably does something terrible Sandman in the process, Harry tries to take Peter out in his own quest for vengence, Peter kicks his ass realizes he's gone too far tries to ditch the suit, suit combines with Eddie who decides to team up Sandman to take Spidey down for good. Harry recovers and joins up with Peter to stop them.

Not sure how Gwen Stacy will play in.



It's going to be a long movie I know that for sure.

The Sandman stuff when finished is going to be awesome. Even the rough stuff looks cool. See that shot of black spidey push his face against a train.

[Gilda Dent]

Another series may gross more at the box office than Star Wars, but I think it would take a lot to overtake the Star Wars franchise as "most profitable". The licensing and merchandising has made billions more than the movies themselves.

In terms of profitable entertainment franchises, I'd guess Star Trek.

[Cthulhudrew]

True. Although, I think Spidey can take 'em all! He's got that whole webbing thing, ya know!

That's one thing that bugs me about the Spidey movies- the webbing. Those things are so dang thick! They should be more, I don't know, thin and gossamer-like (though who knows- maybe they're actually proportionately accurate and I'm just smoking something.)

They should be sticky, though, and Pete and MJ are just lounging around in them.

[Cthulhudrew]

There were two. One of him saying "Love the new outfit" and one totally badass shot of Peter throwing him against a wall and breaking some glass. Now that's a reason for Eddie to hate Peter.

Three, actually. He appears very early in the trailer when the crowds are cheering Spidey, right before we see Spidey standing next to the American Flag.

He seems to be a big Spidey 'shipper (like Flash was in the comics). I think Pete's probably throwing him around for trying to horn in on his Spidey photos. Pete probably feels he's got a corner on the market.

[GRANT!]

http://images.comicbookresources.com/reel/spiderman3/trailer02/spidey3trailer_113.jpg

This is what superhero movies are about people.