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mandog
05-13-2006, 04:32 PM
Who do you like better Superman or Flash? I know Flash is going to get trounced in this poll, but I personally really really dislike Superman and the 9000 characters that were created to be just like him. The Flash is however one of my favorite DC characters (my top 2 are Flash and Batman, I could really take or leave the rest). So I am curious as to how many other people out there agree with me that Supes is a tool and Flash is cooler
The Shadow
05-13-2006, 06:44 PM
I personally really really dislike Superman and the 9000 characters that were created to be just like him
The Flash was created to be just like him.
A lot of the early comic creators gave people only one of Superman's man powers... in Flash's case he got the speed. It's evolved a lot though.
Your question is also somewhat vague. WHICH Flash are you talking about? Jay, Barry, Wally, Bart or any of the other many speedsters in the DCU? You think too many people were created to be like Superman... Flash is just as bad! Quicksilver, Whizzer, and the Marvel speedsters along with all the Flash's in different universes AND the villains like Zoom and the new Boomerang has speed powers because his mom was (surprise) a speedster!
Agentum
05-13-2006, 06:48 PM
I like The Flash(the current one) more, he is more human to me, even if he is really powerful he has a life that is something totaly diffrent than Supermans.
I think Superman is a bit unintresting as a character, to much power and to little of personality, and the always boy scout mode can annoy me at times, i prefer him as a bakground figure in the comics.
I know that this probably very uncommon to think, but i'm not one of those that chose favorit characters after how powerful they are.
mandog
05-13-2006, 09:44 PM
I like The Flash(the current one) more, he is more human to me, even if he is really powerful he has a life that is something totaly diffrent than Supermans.
I think Superman is a bit unintresting as a character, to much power and to little of personality, and the always boy scout mode can annoy me at times, i prefer him as a bakground figure in the comics.
I know that this probably very uncommon to think, but i'm not one of those that chose favorit characters after how powerful they are.
I agree with all you said 100%
Gonzogoose
05-13-2006, 10:35 PM
I love them both, but because of Flash's relatability and wisecracks I have to give it to him.
donatien
05-14-2006, 12:58 AM
I have to say the Flash. The Wally West Flash because he is the one I've always known. Barry died before I made the leap to DC comics. I love Supes and what he stands for but more I love the legacy of being the Flash. I love the fact that it is a mantle that can be passed on. From Jay to Barry to Wally to Bart to whoever is next. PLus the other like Max Mercury. Professor Zoom(Hunter Zolomon) is one of the best concepts for a villain I've ever read.
NotSuper
05-14-2006, 01:13 AM
Superman. He's the first and the greatest.
pauwoo
05-14-2006, 04:50 AM
I voted for the Flash but only because i hope we can use any flash we want, Barry Allen is one of my two favourite characters ever, if the only choice is Wally, then i would go for Superman.
CaptainAwesome
05-14-2006, 07:28 AM
I like flash better, but only because I started reading him first. I think Superman is growing on me fast, though, since i started reading his books. I think the whole argument that Flash is more relatable is not fair. Flash is the "everyman", meaning the writer choose to give him all the human qualities so that he can appeal to everyone. I dont relate to that. Superman, on the other hand, is more acceptable because the he has very specific traits, making him more of an individual and making him, to me, more relatable.
I voted for the Flash. I have always found Superman almost impossible to relate to. He has a rather boring personality. Plus, he is too powerful for me. It takes a lot of the fun and drama out of a comic when the hero can do just about anything.
MarvelKnight
05-14-2006, 02:51 PM
I can't really give a reason other than the Flash has a cool costume.
Superman. He's the first and the greatest.
That's pretty much how I feel as well.
I like the Flash characters too, but without Superman, I'm not sure that any of them would be here.
The Shadow
05-14-2006, 11:30 PM
I have always found Superman almost impossible to relate to.
But you can relate to a guy that can run so fast on a cosmic treadmill that he can travel in time?
He has a rather boring personality.
You must be comparing Clark with Wally because Boring Alle... I mean Barry Allen was the epitome of boring.
Plus, he is too powerful for me. It takes a lot of the fun and drama out of a comic when the hero can do just about anything.
He can't do just about everything. That's why DC depowered him after Crisis.
As for lack of drama... no one should EVER be able to beat Flash. By the time they THINK about hitting him he should have them tied up so fast they don't have a chance to alter thei thoughts.
What Superman books have you read anyway? There's plenty of drama in Superman.
But who wants to read Superman for Clark??? I want my SUPERHEROES!
Agentum
05-15-2006, 12:18 AM
No reason to try to change peoples minds in this thread, it's about who do YOU prefer and there is no right or wrong.
You like Superman more than Flash, good for you, or the opposite.
MythicBrawn
05-15-2006, 06:07 AM
I would vote Flash. I like that his powers all center around one thing: speed. Superman's powers are all over the place. Plus, Superman's personality is a little grating at times.
But you can relate to a guy that can run so fast on a cosmic treadmill that he can travel in time?
Fair enough. I'll elaborate. To me, Clark is Mr. Perfect. Huge, strong, smart and can handle anything. Wally is just a regular joe. Not the smartest, biggest or strongest. Wally is very blue collar. I just found Wally's character easier to relate to that Mr. Perfect Square Jaw.
You must be comparing Clark with Wally because Boring Alle... I mean Barry Allen was the epitome of boring.
Yes. I am comparing Clark to Wally.
He can't do just about everything. That's why DC depowered him after Crisis.
Growing up, Superman has always been pretty much been the most powerful hero in the DC universe.
As for lack of drama... no one should EVER be able to beat Flash. By the time they THINK about hitting him he should have them tied up so fast they don't have a chance to alter thei thoughts.
True. But, I'm only basing my conclusions on the comics as they have been written and not what ifs. And the fact is, during my life DC has written it so that the Flash struggles more than Superman.
What Superman books have you read anyway? There's plenty of drama in Superman.
I'm currently reading Action and Superman because I enjoy Kurt and Geoff's writing. I still don't find Clark or Superman particularly interesting. No big deal. Different tastes for different people. If you think it has plenty of good drama then enjoy.
But who wants to read Superman for Clark??? I want my SUPERHEROES!
Again, to each his own. I have always found the individual character to be just as interesting as his super hero alter ego. I like Peter Parker the same if not more than Spider-Man.
The Shadow
05-15-2006, 04:05 PM
No reason to try to change peoples minds in this thread, it's about who do YOU prefer and there is no right or wrong.
I wasn't trying to change anything... just understand how he can relate to one more than the other.
The Shadow
05-15-2006, 04:07 PM
Fair enough. I'll elaborate. To me, Clark is Mr. Perfect. Huge, strong, smart and can handle anything. Wally is just a regular joe. Not the smartest, biggest or strongest. Wally is very blue collar. I just found Wally's character easier to relate to that Mr. Perfect Square Jaw.
Yes. I am comparing Clark to Wally.
Growing up, Superman has always been pretty much been the most powerful hero in the DC universe.
True. But, I'm only basing my conclusions on the comics as they have been written and not what ifs. And the fact is, during my life DC has written it so that the Flash struggles more than Superman.
I'm currently reading Action and Superman because I enjoy Kurt and Geoff's writing. I still don't find Clark or Superman particularly interesting. No big deal. Different tastes for different people. If you think it has plenty of good drama then enjoy.
Again, to each his own. I have always found the individual character to be just as interesting as his super hero alter ego. I like Peter Parker the same if not more than Spider-Man.
Cool
Thanks for responding.
I agree with you on the Boy Scout feel for Superman.
Geardaddy
05-15-2006, 04:09 PM
I voted for Flash. For me, it's always been hard to identify with Superman. He's great, yes, and he's the character that started the whole superhero genre, but Flash has always seemed more interesting to me. Part of that might be that Flash has one of the best rogues gallaries (along with Batman and Spider-man). To be fair, I haven't read Superman in quite a while, so things may be very different now if I were to give him another try.
Supes35
05-15-2006, 06:08 PM
So Superman is a nice guy. that doesn't equate to one being boring or a wimp, either.
Just because he doesn't go around killing people or acting like he's better than everyone else, it doesn't mean that he's boring.
Superman is a timeless character, because he represents what true heroism is about. Not to mention, he's probably one of the most human characters in the DCU, and the guy isn't even from Earth. His supporting cast is what humanizes the character more than anything.
If the guy wasn't relatable, than how is he able to live a semi-normal life and want to live a life as a human? Well, he does, because he's human, at heart. That's one of the main things that makes Superman timeless. If he didn't have any humanizing qualities, than the character wouldn't even have lasted for nearly 70 years, and is still going strong.
His heart is his greatest strength, yet can also be his greatest weakness. His willingness to be human and strive for that, despite his abilities, is what many find fascinating about the character. Besides, his abilities don't define who he is. Its his heart and compassion that makes him a true hero, who sets the example for others. I mean, Flash, Green Lantern, and even Batman and Wonder Woman to some degree, all look up to the guy, and with good reason, too.
Face it, some people just don't like Superman because he doesn't kill people and he isn't ruthless or malicious towards others. IMO, being ruthless and mean doesn't make a character cool at all, as I think that concept is vastly overrated. I think people who think that heros being mean representing true heroism is just more proof to how messed up our society really is. I mean, violence is probably at an all time high now and people think that's cool? How twisted is that.
Clark is a laid back, easy going person and I don't think there's anything wrong with that. As for him being too powerful, I think he's fine the way he is. He's no more powerful than a Flash or a Green Lantern, who do out of this world stuff, as well as Superman does.
IMO, Superman represents what heroism is all about which is why he's the center of the DCU. He's always set a good example for others and he'll always do that. He's not a background character by any means and he'll never be, either.
rickfury188
05-15-2006, 06:49 PM
I like Flash's only power,(or lack of powers), to make him more human. He has become accustomed to his superspeed and has adapted to it superbly.
Agentum
05-16-2006, 12:45 AM
I voted for Flash. For me, it's always been hard to identify with Superman. He's great, yes, and he's the character that started the whole superhero genre, but Flash has always seemed more interesting to me. Part of that might be that Flash has one of the best rogues gallaries (along with Batman and Spider-man). To be fair, I haven't read Superman in quite a while, so things may be very different now if I were to give him another try.
Generally when it comes to Superman it changes very little, but if it was before the last crisis a lot have happened:)
Flash is leading, who would have known?
I guess Superman fans is ignoring this forum and hang only in the Superman forum:)
HalWho
05-17-2006, 09:19 AM
I enjoy Flash more because of the smart A$S attitude of his...those guys crack me up. The smart ellic's and then the guys like Batman...quiet and mildly prickish...
I've always been down with both Flash and Superman, It's hard for me to say if I actually like one better than the other...
Stanlos
05-17-2006, 10:49 AM
I voted for Superman. Superman is a visually classic character as far as his look. I like the broad shoulders and the bold symbol across the pecs. I love the shape and lines of the Superman shield. As with Wonder Woman, the emblem and how it is wrapped over the pecs is one of the fun parts of viewing artist's renditions. I love the majestic flow of the cape and the way the hair is done. Of all the interpretations ever, I think I loved John Byrne's artistic rendering and Jerry Ordway's the best (so, yeah, I was in Superman heaven when they teamed on Tenth Circle).
Speaking of, I still think Gerard Christopher is Superman. The spitting image of.
http://www.gerardchristopher.com/gnewspaper.jpg
But Superman's many powers and the use thereof also has some incredible visual imagery. He is just a really cool character and for my dollar not many can stand next to him.
Cactusakic
05-19-2006, 07:50 AM
I prefer Flash.
Never really liked Superman. Just dont identify with him.
D.C promote their "Big 3" as being Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman. For me it has always been Batman, Flash and Green Lantern.
Kid Quick Foots
05-20-2006, 05:06 PM
Its the scarlett speedster for me, superman is cool, but flash is more my speed, what with the wise ass cracks and all. Supes gives off that "parent" vibe, where as Wally seems like the cool dude next door. imho
Shrimpman
05-20-2006, 05:23 PM
I dont really know who has cooler powers since they can are able to do or NOT do anything fit depending on plot. I dont just mean how superman used to make up super-powers on the go(Super-Memory, Super-aim? jeez). Flash can run in and out of buildings all over the city saving people at the speed of light but is still too slow to react to somebody stabbing him with a sword(Identity Crisis). Really the Flash should never be hit but it happens all the time.
I voted for the Flash. I agree that superman is a boring boy-scout and the Flash's wisecracks can be pretty entertaining sometimes.
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