Superman #652 *spoilers*

[Silvermane]

FINALLY! I wasn't really enjoying this storyline very much on the art or story side before, but this issue was exactly what I had been holding out for. Good stuff. My only complaint was with how quickly Superman's condition improved within this one issue. Other than that, great job!

[sly_kat]

out of curiousity, is it true, that the three words that were a turning point are really, "Go get em!" I heard they switched it to this issue, and all i can is wtf!!!!

[Silvermane]

out of curiousity, is it true, that the three words that were a turning point are really, "Go get em!" I heard they switched it to this issue, and all i can is wtf!!!!

Yeah, those are them. Why what was it supposed to be?:confused:

[Kilgore Trout]

Yeah, those are them. Why what was it supposed to be?:confused:

Well... I think readers are hungry for SOME real change and frankly, there hasn't been much evidence of it SO FAR in "Up, Up and Away...

Not to mention the 3-word thing was grossly overplayed...

Because REALLY, just how different is that statement from ANYTHING Lois would say to Superman after he suffered some loss...?

And to tell you the truth, "Go get 'em" sounds more like something you'd say to your dog...

On a positive note, this book was better than the first 3 and is now hopefully starting to move past the Clark-centric vision that permeated the first several issues...

The current \S/ books tend to be too verbose for me, and the first person narrative is little more than over-kill... I wish they would use the art work to 'speak' to the readers rather than hitting us over the head with paragraphs of explanation on almost every page...

[20yrslater]

Well... I think readers are hungry for SOME real change and frankly, there hasn't been much evidence of it SO FAR in "Up, Up and Away...

Not to mention the 3-word thing was grossly overplayed...

Because REALLY, just how different is that statement from ANYTHING Lois would say to Superman after he suffered some loss...?

And to tell you the truth, "Go get 'em" sounds more like something you'd say to your dog...

On a positive note, this book was better than the first 3 and is now hopefully starting to move past the Clark-centric vision that permeated the first several issues...

The current \S/ books tend to be too verbose for me, and the first person narrative is little more than over-kill... I wish they would use the art work to 'speak' to the readers rather than hitting us over the head with paragraphs of explanation on almost every page...

Admittedly I haven't read the book yet, but what I think is important here is Lois saying "go be the hero you are". It's tacit approval from her that the world needs Supes as much as she does, and the year off has cemented their relationship enough that she's confident that he'll return to him. Remember, in the past year or so in real time she's had robots impersonating him, J'onn Jonnz guarding her, he's been controlled by Max Lord, all sorts of stuff. So, these three words are huge (IMHO) in this context.

[Kilgore Trout]

Admittedly I haven't read the book yet, but what I think is important here is Lois saying "go be the hero you are". It's tacit approval from her that the world needs Supes as much as she does, and the year off has cemented their relationship enough that she's confident that he'll return to him. Remember, in the past year or so in real time she's had robots impersonating him, J'onn Jonnz guarding her, he's been controlled by Max Lord, all sorts of stuff. So, these three words are huge (IMHO) in this context.

Possibly...

The fact is that I quit reading Superman comics after the FOR TOMORROW debacle and am unaware of much that has gone on since that story...

Still... Its kinda hard to know what's in-continuity and what's out following IC...

So I'm not even sure that the past year or so even counts...

[Silvermane]

Well... I think readers are hungry for SOME real change and frankly, there hasn't been much evidence of it SO FAR in "Up, Up and Away...

Which was why I was so intrigued by the idea that Superman's powers returned, but not all of them. A supes who can only leap and doesn't have vision powers to rely upon and can be injured by high caliber gunfire was very appealing for some reason. At the very least, it was interesting. But that came and went in the space of a few pages. Oh, well...

[JuggernautRM]

What I love about this and all the new issues is the Art, and they are drawing Supes in the style that reminds you have E2 Superman slightly.

[Sheldon]

I love that his power level is at the same level it was when he first debuted.

[stealthwise]

Great issue. This arc continues to impress, and I'm glad we got that "Three words" garbunkle out of the way, because really, the only place that it was being hyped was on the internet. The issues themselves and print ads don't make much mention of it at all. The Lois depicted here is perfect. She's smart, supportive, and a great complement to Clark so far.

[Damo]

Oh, the "three words" were being hyped up on the internet? AH... I see now. I was wondering what in blazes people were doing complaining about that. Okay, just so long as it was being hyped up somewhere, and this wasn't an out of the blue complaint.

Mixed feelings on this issue. Loved Lois and Clark, less than thrilled about what seems to be the reason his powers haven't been returning when they were meant to (I'm dearly hoping there turns out to be a little more to it than "I didn't feel like it"). The villains were okayish, but I've gotta say I'm really let down. I've been saying for forever and a day that Supes needs some decent female foes. And I've been told that the return of the Puzzler would make me hush up.

So she finally shows, and she gets beaten by a heavily depowered Superman, using a trash bin and his cape. And then both Silver Banshee and Livewire get depicted as Intergang thugs working alongside rejects like Riot and Bloodsport. And Superman, even though he was depowered, pretty much took them all out at once. =/

Gotta say, from my POV this essentially took several of the gals that might've been a threat to Superman and showed that they're not remotely a problem for him. So his gallery is hurting more than ever, in that regard. *Shrugs.* Still an overall good issue, but that did dissapoint me.

[Yoda]

The subconscious repression of the powers is Clark's idea, it's not necessarily the real reason. The powers real return were all preceded by Luthor cranking up that Kryptonite Laser funnelling through the Kryptonite Man. So it's entirely possible (and would be a great irony) if Luthor was responsible for the return of Superman.

I mean he turns in on the first time, Clark can run fast and get his invuneralblity and can leap tall buildings in a single bound. He finds out Superman's back so he cranks it up to full, and Clark can fly again and is faster than a speeding bullet.

[JuggernautRM]

Now I wonder what the buzzing is...we'll just have to wait for Action Comics to come out.

[davids]

:evilangry

NOT
I HATE YOU
I LOVE YOU
I'M LEAVING YOU
I AM PREGNANT
IT'S A BOY
IT'S A GIRL
SHE'S DEAD KAL
DON'T TOUCH ME
GO GET EM? THSES WERE THE THREE LITTLE WORDS THAT WERE SO IMPORTANT? WHAT A CROCK OF S..T!

I FEEL SO USED

[Damo]

Okay, now I'm really getting irked by people complaining about "those three words" which apparently has been a huge deal in internet circles I do not gather in. Seriously, chill. Focus on the story and not the fact that a frankly ridiculous bit of hype failed to meet your expectations.

[VietN]

Haha I agree, being out of the loop as I am, make the complaints about "Go get 'em" seem very confusing.

[stealthwise]

I had completely forgotten about the "three little words" thing prior to reading the issue and didn't realize it until coming here, but that moment was actually pretty damn good. We don't get the whiny, bitchy Lois that people feared, Clark doesn't have to hide the fact that he has his powers from her, and we end up with a superhero in a strong marriage. People have been complaining that you can't tell good stories with Superman married, well, this one's pretty damn good so far, and I think that it's going to keep going this way.

[glennsim]

Okay, now I'm really getting irked by people complaining about "those three words" which apparently has been a huge deal in internet circles I do not gather in. Seriously, chill. Focus on the story and not the fact that a frankly ridiculous bit of hype failed to meet your expectations.

I'm noticing a trend of people reading way too much into hype. Dan Dideo says that the characters of the DCU "remember everything" and suddenly the DCU is filled with psychotics who have been driven insane by the contradictory memories of infinite personal histories.

I doubt it.

(I did think the words would be a bigger deal, but I was possibly mis-remembering the level of importance it was given by DC. Must have happened that way in a different alternate Earth lifetime. I am now insane.)

[Bored at 3:00AM]

Wished the Circa 1938 power levels had lasted a little bit longer, but it was nice to see 'em back for a bit...

[davids]

"And three words that will shock you!" Or some such hot air that apeared in the previews. we just speculated what does 'SHOCKING' three little words might be. 'GO GET EM!' TALK ABOUT HYPE!

Much like this crisis bull. One year later and watch the so called foundation it's built on come tubling down.:evilangry

[Yoda]

"And three words that will shock you!" Or some such hot air that apeared in the previews. we just speculated what does 'SHOCKING' three little words might be. 'GO GET EM!' TALK ABOUT HYPE!

Much like this crisis bull. One year later and watch the so called foundation it's built on come tubling down.:evilangry

I'm sure they were shocking to all the people who considered Lois a selfish cold b*tch who didn't love Superman all these past years .

And it's solictation texy. Every comic put out is a "MUST READ!" if you go by that.

[TJ Shoun]

I don't read solicits, but if DC was hyping that scene... well, that's lame.

And it doesn't mean anything as far as her characterization goes. She could very well still be regular ol' bitchy and bull-headed Lois for all we know. We haven't seen enough yet to really say.

[Rylon]

What makes you think the three words are "go get 'em?" Personaly, I'm thinking they were "misjudged the landing." Of course, I hadn't heard about any shocking 3 words prior to this thread.

[trickster]

People were hyping the famous three words because DC did, like "the Internet would break in half" or something. But "go get them"?? WTF? How is this in any way "shocking"?

See here:

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=108400

[Yoda]

People were hyping the famous three words because DC did, like "the Internet would break in half" or something. But "go get them"?? WTF? How is this in any way "shocking"?

The only place I saw the "Three Words" referanced was in the solicits. Does anyone have a link to any other source?

[SuperManny]

People were hyping the famous three words because DC did, like "the Internet would break in half" or something. But "go get them"?? WTF? How is this in any way "shocking"?

See here:

http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=108400

Looks like everyone is over-reacting again. The comic book with the "three little words" is Action Comics #839, not Superman #652. Take a look at the link above, and the following solicits:

Written by Geoff Johns and Kurt Busiek; Art by Pete Woods; Cover by Terry Dodson and Rachel Dodson

Part 6 of the 8-part "Up, Up, and Away!" While Superman goes all-out to clean up the plague of villains overrunning Metropolis, Lex Luthor finally strikes with a devastating attack that could literally tear the city apart!

And as Lex unleashes an engine of destruction from the center of the Earth, lost secrets of Krypton are revealed, the Daily Planet faces a huge story without its top reporter, and three unexpected words mark a turning point for Lois and Clark!

Can't we wait 2 more weeks before we show our disappointment? :)

[glennsim]

Looks like everyone is over-reacting again. The comic book with the "three little words" is Action Comics #839, not Superman #652. Take a look at the link above, and the following solicits:



Can't we wait 2 more weeks before we show our disappointment? :)

Well, with Lois saying "I've got three words for you", it's reasonable to assume that they may have moved the "announcement", but we truly won't know for sure until #839...

[Sean Whitmore]

Wished the Circa 1938 power levels had lasted a little bit longer, but it was nice to see 'em back for a bit...


It was, but I'd rather Superman didn't point out that he was jumping "one-eight of a mile". Supergirl did the same thing when she was depowered a few years ago, and it just smacked of spoon-feeding the reader the joke.


SEAN

[Sean Whitmore]

Fun issue, but I have to agree with those who said that a half-powered Superman defeating the bad guys so easily really points out how crap his rogues gallery is. A few words about this latest Superman Revenge Squad (I really wish they had been called that):

--Bloodsport's ONE trick is that he had kryptonite bullets. Without that he is a shmuck with a gun...what's he doing with a codename and taking million-dollar contracts on Superman?

--Riot...good Christ, I thought we'd seen the last of him. I HOPED we'd seen the last of him. And again: his only power is splitting into many (human) people. What is he doing even TRYING to kill Superman?

--Reducing Silver Banshee's power to a glorified sonic scream really makes her all but useless. Isn't her thing that her voice can kill anyone, as long as she knows their name? Even without knowing Superman's real name, her voice has still put the screws to him, even at full power. And, again, she doesn't strike me as the type to be accepting assassination contracts.

Ah well, minor things. All eclipsed by how kick-ass Luthor was this issue. "He wouldn't DARE die on me." :D


SEAN

[Bored at 3:00AM]

I get the impression that a lot of these bad guys are being trotted out as their final appearances before the Big Bads make their appearances.

Because Supes just tore threw these losers. I really doubt they'll be back.

[van-zee]

I get the impression that a lot of these bad guys are being trotted out as their final appearances before the Big Bads make their appearances.

Because Supes just tore threw these losers. I really doubt they'll be back.

Oh, Livewire will be back. She was just introduced. Just wait for the team-up with Harley Quinn. ***feel the synergy***

[Dubbilex]

I've been enjoying the current Up, Up, and Away arc so much that after reading the lastest ish, I wanted to find out more about the villains he fought in it. There doesn't seem to much info online, though, so can someone fill me in?

From what I've gathered, Bloodsport is a guy who shoots kryptonite bullets and Riot can multiply? So what makes Bloodsport a super-villain instead of a regular criminal now that he doesn't seem to be using kryptonite anymore? And does Riot have any other abilities? If each of his copies are only regular humans, I'm really curious as to how past writers were able to have him give a fully-powered Superman a challenge. Sounds like it'd take a lot of creativity.

[stealthwise]

Bloodsport used to be a superpowered, bloodthirsty criminal who gave Superman quite a run for his money back in 1994, but now he's been replaced by some guy in the same suit with guns. Not sure who Riot is.

[marshal99]

Riot
http://www.dcuguide.com/who.php?name=riot2

Used to sport a different look , in the world's finest maxi series , he and Joker went at it. :)

[Alpha to Omega]

IIRC the first Bloodsport could teleport guns into his hands so he was never unarmed thanks to tech from Lexcorp.

[Jessica Drew]

Loved this issue, from being able to leap that tall building in a single bound, to Lois standing by her man, to Jimmy's face smiling, to Superman tangling with B-list villains...all of it was grand, and I couldn't get John Williams' score out of my head the entire time.

The past few issues of this and Action have been the best Superman comics in YEARS.

[Nick Kal]

This and Batman are where it's at OYL. I'm loving this title so much. Can't wiat till Lex really gets into the mix.

[Aufbach]

Did anyone else think that Superman's costume in this comic now looks A LOT like his costume in the upcoming movie?

[Nick Kal]

Did anyone else think that Superman's costume in this comic now looks A LOT like his costume in the upcoming movie?

It's looks more like it in Action Comics #839. It looks great, though. The art is beautiful in that issue.

[NotSuper]

I get the impression that a lot of these bad guys are being trotted out as their final appearances before the Big Bads make their appearances.

Because Supes just tore threw these losers. I really doubt they'll be back.
I think you're right. It was fun to see Superman take them out so effortlessly.

[shyguy]

I vaguely like this storyline (not as much as Verheiden's Superman run so far), but it's stretched out wayyyyyy longer than it needs to be. This thing could have been told in 6 issues max, and probably more like four, really.

I would have liked the "he's starting out with the original Superman's powers!" thing a lot more if they hadn't made it so explicit (bet you anything that was a Johns addition). It went from being mildly clever to embarassing and kind of fanfic-y really quick.

And while I don't have any attachment to Bloodsport, Riot, or Livewire, it bugged me how Silver Banshee got taken out. She's a bigger threat than just a Black Canary who can fly, which is basically what she's used for here.