what the hell happened to saturday morning cartoons?

[blackdragon6]

during the 80's there was cartoons on every network.they would start at 6 am and end at noon.you knew it was all over when soul train camed on :D .but now they're all gone what the hell happen?

[shades of eternity]

blame nbc, they switched to no cartoons and the other networks followed suit.

Fox and Ytv compensate to some degree, but their stuff is getting kinda crappy.

[malephoenix]

The problem now is the variety. Then, we had Slimer and the Real Ghostbusters, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and more into the nineties, X-Men and of course Batman: TAS.

Now, we have anime, anime, or anime. Oh, and don't forget America's attempts at copying anime.

[DWEarhart]

The FCC. They passed a legislature that required the majority of Saturday morning programming on the major networks: i.e. NBC, CBS, ABC to be primarily educational, teaching socially acceptable behavior and standards.

Screw that. Give me cartoons with stuff blowing up, and a funny sidekick.

[Legato]

blame nbc, they switched to no cartoons and the other networks followed suit.

Fox and Ytv compensate to some degree, but their stuff is getting kinda crappy.

So true. The only good thing fox has is TMNT but even that isn't worth me getting up in the morning to watch just one good show.

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

The FCC. They passed a legislature that required the majority of Saturday morning programming on the major networks: i.e. NBC, CBS, ABC to be primarily educational, teaching socially acceptable behavior and standards.

Screw that. Give me cartoons with stuff blowing up, and a funny sidekick.this basically sums it up, but i be damned if that soul train line didn't bring back memories.the 80's and 90's was great for saterday morning cartoons.

[malephoenix]

So true. The only good thing fox has is TMNT but even that isn't worth me getting up in the morning to watch just one good show.

Too bad it doesn't hold a candle to the original series:( ...

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

Too bad it doesn't hold a candle to the original series:( ...
i think it does actually

[Athena Bast]

The FCC. They passed a legislature that required the majority of Saturday morning programming on the major networks: i.e. NBC, CBS, ABC to be primarily educational, teaching socially acceptable behavior and standards.

Screw that. Give me cartoons with stuff blowing up, and a funny sidekick.

Yes.. because parents can't do that anymore. Mind you I was raised by a TV because that's all my father paid attention to. My mother was too busy taking care of everything else to notice.

I think I raised myself tho. I don't want to give the TV too much credit. Then again I mixed my educational programming with my toons. I loved Saturday morning because it was a chance to veg and not learn for 6 hours.

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

Yes.. because parents can't do that anymore. Mind you I was raised by a TV because that's all my father paid attention to. My mother was too busy taking care of everything else to notice.

I think I raised myself tho. I don't want to give the TV too much credit. Then again I mixed my educational programming with my toons. I loved Saturday morning because it was a chance to veg and not learn for 6 hours.where the hell you been?

[Pól Rua]

Cartoons got too expensive to produce, so animation studios decided to recoup their losses by making cartoons into a huge ad campaign for toys.
When the FCC stopped that, networks realized that producing live action kiddie fare (Saved By The Bell), importing foreign shows (Power Rangers) or showing anime series was a more economical alternative.
Plus, censorship got to the point where most of the cartoons and Saturday morning fare I grew up with in the 70's, and most of you lot grew up with in the 80's would be deemed 'too violent' or 'without socially redeeming aspects'.

I'd hate to think what these bums would think about Tex Avery or Chuck Jones' stuff.

[kisit111]

during the 80's there was cartoons on every network.they would start at 6 am and end at noon.you knew it was all over when soul train camed on :D .but now they're all gone what the hell happen?

There where some in the early and mid 90's to. But in the late 90's it all stoped.

[Athena Bast]

where the hell you been?

Um... is that actually me where I have been or are you trying to attack my opinion?

[Buzz Dixon]

The VCR, the DVD, and TiVo. There's no need to set aside a block of time anymore for any programming. Kids like watching the same things over and over (I oughta know -- when my daughter was 4 she watched ALICE IN WONDERLAND back-to-back at least once a day for the better part of a year) so a fistfulla DVDs will satisfy them better than waiting to watch a broadcast episode that will be interrupted with commercials.

Throw video games into the mix and there's precious little motivation for any audience segment to build their schedules around what networks choose to program.

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

Um... is that actually me where I have been or are you trying to attack my opinion?no serious question lol:D

[Xero Kaiser]

Too bad it doesn't hold a candle to the original series:( ...

The only thing the original series has over the new one is the theme song

[Tien Long]

I've recently been thinking about this myself. Saturday morning program is slowly fading away, which pisses me off. Growing up, you had a ton of good shows on ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX, and the WB. Now it's maybe just two good ones on FOX and the WB, with all this news crap on the other stations. But I don't think just adding more action cartoons would be the best idea. Rather there should be a return to variety. I remember growing up there was a diverse range of comedy, educational, and action shows. Whatever happen to funny shows like Eek The Cat, Animaniacs, or Pinky and the Brain? Or REALLY excellent educational shows like Beekman's World or Bill Nye the Science Guy?

That's what made Saturday morning really enjoyable. The funny or educational shows would be interesting and entertaining, but you'd REALLY be licking your chops for the new episode of Spider-Man, Batman, or the X-Men later in the morning.

[spideyrules99]

Yea I miss the sat moring cartoons. I remeber waking up ealry just to watch them. No a days the shows suck. There are maybe two shows on tv sat morings that I want 2 watch. it makes me sad to think of where things will be 3 or 4 years down the line.

[Athena Bast]

no serious question lol:D

You can check my "Boo!" thread on the community board or....

I moved.. had only electricity, paint and books to pass my time. That and several SEVERAL runnings of Lord of The Rings in my DVD player.

Boyfriend moved in 3 months later (after only dating him for 2 months:D)got cable, phone, 'net but had a craptacular computer. September rolls around and after a bad day at work the BF introduces me to WoW and I've been a resident of Azeroth since.

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

You can check my "Boo!" thread on the community board or....

I moved.. had only electricity, paint and books to pass my time. That and several SEVERAL runnings of Lord of The Rings in my DVD player.

Boyfriend moved in 3 months later (after only dating him for 2 months:D)got cable, phone, 'net but had a craptacular computer. September rolls around and after a bad day at work the BF introduces me to WoW and I've been a resident of Azeroth since.oh all of that huh?;)

[Ravenheart]

The better question is why the hell is everything anime now?

[Xero Kaiser]

Because it isn't

[Ontir]

during the 80's there was cartoons on every network.they would start at 6 am and end at noon.you knew it was all over when soul train camed on :D .but now they're all gone what the hell happen?


Cable TV: the Cartoon Network, the Disney Channel, Noggin, etc., the Internet, and video games. Animation isn't cheap, and if kids aren't watching, the nets would rather go with news, syndicated, or infomercial programming.

[JDogindy]

Problem is that everyone's least favorite corporation this side of the IRS, the FCC, passed that law saying kid's programming should be educational.

Back then, I believe, cartoons were mindless. Funny critters, things blowing up, and the inevitable defeat of Wile E. Coyote.

I think the downfall came after the FCC, but really it began with Power Rangers. Originally, it was from Japan, but this was pretty much the beginning of the Japan Invasion. However, even these otherwise good shows weren't safe from the FCC. Most were carved up and made into stupider cartrictures of themselves. And the American cartoons still made are bad sketches and poor writing.

Some anime was a hit (Yu-Gi-Oh!, Pokemon, Digimon, One Piece, and Sailor Moon), but most stuff that came over didn't survive. And even the "hits" (namely, One Piece) were altered.

It was the day the chimps converted it into educrap was the day it died. I mean, the educational stuff is a bomb: NBC ditched Discovery Kids after eliminating TeenNBC. And now, CBS is getting rid of Nick Jr. Nobody wants to learn.

Over-importing and educational shows killed Saturday.

[i_mmmchocolate]

The Internet.

[davids]

Live action drek from the 80's and 90's. Great cartoons like samuri jack, Duck dogers, Dexters lab, power puff girls, JLU dead and gone. Classic cartoons never to be seen again except on DVD. Bugs Bunny, daffy duck, loney tunes, tex avery, Popey all gone. If the cartoon network won't show these and others how will the other networks show them.:evilangry

[Buzz Dixon]

The better question is why the hell is everything anime now?
Because there are huge stockpiles of anime programs in the can and they can be had for as cheaply as $10,000 an episode, which is ridiculously inexpensive for TV programming.

[Ontir]

Problem is that everyone's least favorite corporation this side of the IRS, the FCC, passed that law saying kid's programming should be educational.

Back then, I believe, cartoons were mindless. Funny critters, things blowing up, and the inevitable defeat of Wile E. Coyote.

I think the downfall came after the FCC, but really it began with Power Rangers. Originally, it was from Japan, but this was pretty much the beginning of the Japan Invasion. However, even these otherwise good shows weren't safe from the FCC. Most were carved up and made into stupider cartrictures of themselves. And the American cartoons still made are bad sketches and poor writing.

Some anime was a hit (Yu-Gi-Oh!, Pokemon, Digimon, One Piece, and Sailor Moon), but most stuff that came over didn't survive. And even the "hits" (namely, One Piece) were altered.

It was the day the chimps converted it into educrap was the day it died. I mean, the educational stuff is a bomb: NBC ditched Discovery Kids after eliminating TeenNBC. And now, CBS is getting rid of Nick Jr. Nobody wants to learn.

Over-importing and educational shows killed Saturday.

Actually, the 70's was the beginning of the sanitisation of children's programming. The result was that the Looney Tunes were butchered for violence, and shows like "G.I. Joe" had people firing tanks, at people in airplanes, who always parachuted to safety, without a scratch. Then in the 90's, everyone was asking why kids had such a detached view of violence? It's because they saw unconsequential violence, IMHO. Teaching kids that violence has repurcussions is never a bad thing, as far as I'm concerned.

[MarvelKnight]

Hey, people we're adults, Saturday morning cartoons are for the kids.

[Legato]

Things changed. You cant expect everything to be the same.

[Norrin Radd]

I hate that just about everything is now anime-influenced. Anime Transformers, anime GI-JOE. Dear Lord!

[Mike Smith]

Anime is what happened.

[SAMAS]

Hey, people we're adults, Saturday morning cartoons are for the kids.

Yeah, but the shows for kids they had when we were kids are not the same as the shows they have for kids now.

We had three or four channels each showing four hours or more of cartoons, with maybe every other one being thirty-minute toy commercials. Sure, a few of them were rediculously hokey, but a great deal of them had a spark of quality to them, often will references you didn't get until years later. And on top of that, the Syndicated networks gave us two to three hours every Weekday morning, and three in the afternoon, plus another two hours or so on Sunday Mornings before we were dragged off to church.

Maybe some of it is the fact that we're looking through the eyes of adults what we saw as kids, but things have certainly changed. You don't get those big, prime-time Fall Previews we used to see during the end of summer. We don't get those early-morning cartoons like Heavy Gear, Dragon Warrior, and Battletech that they would show as 5:00 in the morning, doomed to never get past a full season, but entertaining nonetheless. Weekdays are all but gone, Sundays nonexistent. The Big 3 have given up on cartoons entirely. Fox and the WB are the only holdouts, and they've discovered how cheap it is just to import stuff from Japan, or French imitations thereof, and stick an english track with bad jokes over it.

COME BACK, STEVEN SPIELBERG! ALL IS FORGIVEN!

[Nessor Sille]

Plus, censorship got to the point where most of the cartoons and Saturday morning fare I grew up with in the 70's, and most of you lot grew up with in the 80's would be deemed 'too violent' or 'without socially redeeming aspects'.



Were '90s cartoon series like Batman: TAS, Superman: TAS, Gargoyles, ReBoot, and ExoSquad -really- less violent and more censored than...say..."Fat Albert" and "He-Man"? Keep in mind, all came out when the shift began in earnest of original Saturday morning cartoons began to be downplayed.

Heck, 21st century cartoons like "The PowerPuff Girls", "Kim Possible", "AirBender", and "Ben 10" have a lot of violence and not much in the way afterschool morals...though not amoral shows.

[lonewolf23k]

Because there are huge stockpiles of anime programs in the can and they can be had for as cheaply as $10,000 an episode, which is ridiculously inexpensive for TV programming.

Yep. That's the basics of it.. It's cheaper to take episodes of an Anime, edit it for American audiances and dub over it then it is to actually produce a whole new Cartoon series...

It's also cheaper to merchandise, since most Anime also have their own toylines made in Japan..

And frankly, it burns my biscuits too.. We have some very talented animators here in North America who's talents are going to waste because TV Networks would rather go cheap by outsourcing their Animation series..

[Eliseu Gouveia]

Don´t you have kiddy channels that run cartoons 24/7?

We got a couple those out here and although half of it is anime, it´s still very kiddy-friendly (and even educational, at times).
Of ocurse I have no patience for cartoon channels sincem, you know, they´re geared toward kids but the kids themselves love them.

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

Problem is that everyone's least favorite corporation this side of the IRS, the FCC, passed that law saying kid's programming should be educational.

.yeah the FCC pretty much killed them all

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

Heck, 21st century cartoons like "The PowerPuff Girls", "Kim Possible", "AirBender", and "Ben 10" have a lot of violence and not much in the way afterschool morals...though not amoral shows.most of those are not network shows though.

[Wild Card]

Don´t you have kiddy channels that run cartoons 24/7?
Not anymore.


Let's put it this way Toon Disney is showing Power Rangers. Cartoon Network has been showing stuff like Dumb & Dumber and Save By The Bell.

[MKTerra]

Anime is what happened.Times have changed
Our shows are getting worse
The Loonatics are scary
And Saturdays are a curse!

Should we blame the studios?
Or blame propriety?
Or should we blame the idiots at Disney?

No!
Blame Anime!
Blame Anime!
With all their bigass googly eyes
And noses and mouths a thimble's size
Blame Anime!
Blame Anime!
We need to make the broadcasts halt!
It's Anime's fault!

Don't blame me for The Batman
They saw the darn cartoon and now they're off to join Japan

And my show, JL, once had a season after three
But now it's put on hold for Month of Miyazaki

Well,
Blame Anime!
Blame Anime!
It seems that everything's gone wrong
since Anime came along
Blame Anime!
Blame Anime!
It's not even a real style anyway

My LoSH could have been a work of art by Bruce Timm, it's true
Instead it burns us like a flaming pile of doggy doo
Should we blame the sugar?
Should we blame CN?
Or Uwe Boll, Jack Thompson, and Lieberman?

Heck no!
Blame Anime!
Blame Anime!
With all their gotta-catch-em-all goals
And those hentai tentacles
Blame Anime!
Shame on Anime!

The smut we must stop
The trash we must smash
Laughter and fun
Must all be undone
We must blame it and cause a fuss
Before somebody thinks of blaming us!

[blackdragon6]

Times have changed
Our shows are getting worse
The Loonatics are scary
And Saturdays are a curse!

Should we blame the studios?
Or blame propriety?
Or should we blame the idiots at Disney?

No!
Blame Anime!
Blame Anime!
its all of the above actually,the networks,our shows ARE horrible,anime,the fcc,white middle age watch dog home makers who do nothing but bitch and moan.
its all to blame.and theres plenty of blame to go around.

[Buzz Dixon]

ROTFLMAO, MKTerra!!!!!
:D :p :D

[theflyingfrogunderdog]

Saturday mornings at 8:30 a.m. Pacific time, TCM shows classic cartoons for a half hour. I've seen it afew times. Acouple of the very first Bugs Bunny cartoons were shown and another time old Popeye cartoons were shown. If you grew up watching those old cartoons when they were still on tv as reruns in the '70s and '80s, it's worth checking out.

[Super Macho Man]

Let's face it: There's almost nothing good on these days anyway. Animated cartoons, documentaries, biopics, movies, sitcoms, and even some sports casts lack the feeling they once had. Heck, even the news isn't as good as it used to be. Let's just face the music: Everything is of poor quality these days. And its not just because of anime. It's also because they've finally figured it out: People will watch anything. Survivor and American Idol proved that.

So, I advise all of you to fight the power--take it straight to THE MAN. Go read a book or something; stop this evil television-based empire before it spreads!

[Rob Imes]

Here's a sampling of this Saturday morning's TV offerings, not counting The Cartoon Network, Disney Channel, ToonDisney, or Nickelodeon channel. There seems to be enough on that kids probably don't have a hard time finding something to watch on Saturday morning -- they probably just have to switch channels to find it more often than we had to back in the old days, when there were fewer channels.


FOX:
8am: FOX2 News at 7-10am (local news)
10am: Safari Tracks
10:30am: Animal Atlas
(followed by more pet & animal shows till 12:30pm)

NBC:
8am: Local news
10am: Kenny the Shark
10:30am: Time Warp Trio
11am: Trading Spaces: Boys vs. Girls
11:30am: Darcy's Wild Life

ABC:
8am: Good Morning America
9am: Lilo & Stitch
9:30am: The Emperor's New School
10am: The Proud Family
10:30am: That's So Raven
11am: The Suite Life
11:30am: Phil of the Future
noon: Kim Possible
12:30pm: Power Rangers Mystic Force
(Sports & infomercials take over after 1pm)

CBS:
8am: The Backyardigans
8:30am: Dora The Explorer
9am: The Saturday Early Show
11am: Street Beat
11:30am: paid programming
noon: Hometime
12:30am: Today's Homeowner
1pm: paid programming
2pm: Golf

UPN:
8am: Wild America
8:30am: B In Tune TV
9am: Coolfuel Roadtrip
9:30am: Crash! Bang! Splat!
10am: Movies until 6:30pm (first one being "The Mask")

USA:
8am: Paid programming
8:30am: Flat Sexy Abs
9am: Monk
10am: Movie ("The Housesitter")

WGN
8am-noon: Paid programming

TBS:
8am-noon: Movies

FAMILY CHANNEL
8am: Spider-Man And His Amazing Friends
8:30am: A.T.O.M.
9am: Get Ed
9:30am: Kong: The Animated Series
10am: Power Rangers Mystic Foce
10:30am: Super Robot Monkey Team Hyper Force
11am: Power Rangers S.P.D.
11:30am: W.I.T.C.H.
noon: Full House

[JDogindy]

Let's face it: There's almost nothing good on these days anyway. Animated cartoons, documentaries, biopics, movies, sitcoms, and even some sports casts lack the feeling they once had. Heck, even the news isn't as good as it used to be. Let's just face the music: Everything is of poor quality these days. And its not just because of anime. It's also because they've finally figured it out: People will watch anything. Survivor and American Idol proved that.

Anime is good, but when you send over 50 series a year and chop it up, it ain't going to be good.

Besides, we have gotten too focused on Reality TV to even care about quality. And that isn't just "The Simpsons" (my favorite show, and should go out with a bang soon, but probably will last until 2015:( )
So, I advise all of you to fight the power--take it straight to THE MAN. Go read a book or something; stop this evil television-based empire before it spreads!
Yeah. I'd read a book, or listen to the radio, or better yet, POST IN CBR!

The banner warning for TV: Don't Watch! Post on a Room!*

(*Just don't become predator bait, then it's your problem)

[JDogindy]

Here's a sampling of this Saturday morning's TV offerings, not counting The Cartoon Network, Disney Channel, ToonDisney, or Nickelodeon channel. There seems to be enough on that kids probably don't have a hard time finding something to watch on Saturday morning -- they probably just have to switch channels to find it more often than we had to back in the old days, when there were fewer channels.


FOX:
8am: FOX2 News at 7-10am (local news)
10am: Safari Tracks
10:30am: Animal Atlas
(followed by more pet & animal shows till 12:30pm)

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Your FOX affiliate dosen't have 4Kids TV?

NBC:
8am: Local news
10am: Kenny the Shark
10:30am: Time Warp Trio
11am: Trading Spaces: Boys vs. Girls
11:30am: Darcy's Wild Life

I miss "City Guys". The only shows I liked from this block ("Prehistoric Planet" and "Strange Days at Blake Holsey High") no longer air.

ABC:
8am: Good Morning America
9am: Lilo & Stitch
9:30am: The Emperor's New School
10am: The Proud Family
10:30am: That's So Raven
11am: The Suite Life
11:30am: Phil of the Future
noon: Kim Possible
12:30pm: Power Rangers Mystic Force
(Sports & infomercials take over after 1pm)


MEH!

FAMILY CHANNEL
8am: Spider-Man And His Amazing Friends
8:30am: A.T.O.M.
9am: Get Ed
9:30am: Kong: The Animated Series
10am: Power Rangers Mystic Foce
10:30am: Super Robot Monkey Team Hyper Force
11am: Power Rangers S.P.D.
11:30am: W.I.T.C.H.
noon: Full House
Uh... two Power Rangers? Alright... But you forgot "Digimon: Tamers" at 7:30.

[Wild Card]

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Your FOX affiliate dosen't have 4Kids TV?
My don't have it either.

[Sorcerer Supreme]

The problem now is the variety. Then, we had Slimer and the Real Ghostbusters, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and more into the nineties, X-Men and of course Batman: TAS.

Now, we have anime, anime, or anime. Oh, and don't forget America's attempts at copying anime.

Man, I could not agree more, What on earth has gone wrong. I myself used to love Marvel action hour with the Fantastic Four, Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk, whats happened. Now we have to put up with Yu gi oh, Xiaolin showdown and such, its awful.

[Wild Card]

Here's a sampling of this Saturday morning's TV offerings, not counting The Cartoon Network, Disney Channel, ToonDisney, or Nickelodeon channel. There seems to be enough on that kids probably don't have a hard time finding something to watch on Saturday morning -- they probably just have to switch channels to find it more often than we had to back in the old days, when there were fewer channels.


FOX:
8am: FOX2 News at 7-10am (local news)
10am: Safari Tracks
10:30am: Animal Atlas
(followed by more pet & animal shows till 12:30pm)Here's my FOX station saturday morning lineup:
6:00 Paid Programming
6:30 Steel Dreams
7:00 Awesome Adventures
7:30 Animal Rescue
8:00 Wild About Animals
8:30 Animal Atlas
9:00 Pet Keeping With Marc Morrone
9:30 Safari Tracks
10:00 Urban Style
10:30 Latin Lifestyles
11:00 Paid Programming
12:00 M*A*S*H

NBC:
8am: Local news
10am: Kenny the Shark
10:30am: Time Warp Trio
11am: Trading Spaces: Boys vs. Girls
11:30am: Darcy's Wild Life
6:00 Local news
8:00 Today
10:00 Same lineup as yours
12:00 Flight 29 Down
12:30 Endurance
1:00p.m. Teen Kids News

ABC:
8am: Good Morning America
9am: Lilo & Stitch
9:30am: The Emperor's New School
10am: The Proud Family
10:30am: That's So Raven
11am: The Suite Life
11:30am: Phil of the Future
noon: Kim Possible
12:30pm: Power Rangers Mystic Force
(Sports & infomercials take over after 1pm)6:00 Paid Programming
7:00 Exploration With Richard Wiese
7:30 Paid Programming
8:00 Same lineup as yours (it should be noted that all of ABC Kids shows are reruns of shows from the Disney owned cable channals)
1:00p.m. NBA Access With Ahmad Rashad
1:30 Movie

CBS:
8am: The Backyardigans
8:30am: Dora The Explorer
9am: The Saturday Early Show
11am: Street Beat
11:30am: paid programming
noon: Hometime
12:30am: Today's Homeowner
1pm: paid programming
2pm: Golf6:00 Paid Programming
7:00 Good Morning
9:00 Little Bill
9:30 Blue's Clues
10:00 LazyTown
10:30 Go, Diego, Go!
11:00 The Backyardigans
11:30 Dora the Explorer
12:00 Paid Programming
2:00p.m. Golf

UPN:
8am: Wild America
8:30am: B In Tune TV
9am: Coolfuel Roadtrip
9:30am: Crash! Bang! Splat!
10am: Movies until 6:30pm (first one being "The Mask")6:00 Paid Programming
7:00 Sherlock Holmes in the 22nd Century
7:30 Wild America
8:00 Beautiful Homes & Great Estates
8:30 Today's Homeowner With Danny Lipford
9:00 Hometime
9:30 Travel in Style
10:00 This Old House Classics
10:30 AutomotiveVision.TV
11:00 The American Athlete
11:30 Ebert & Roeper
12:00 Movies until 8:00p.m.

WB
6:00 Paid Programming
6:30 Russ Dalbey Presents
7:00 Loonatics Unleashed
8:00 Viewtiful Joe
8:30 The Batman
9:00 Xiaolin Showdown
9:30 Loonatics Unleashed
10:00 Pokémon
10:30 Coconut Fred's Fruit Salad Island
11:00 Johnny Test
11:30 Yu-Gi-Oh!
12:00 Movies till 6:00p.m.

[darkkeeperjr]

Ever since school house rock died,Saturdays haven't been the same. We need school house rock on every channel or at least on cartoon network.

Do these kids even know how a bill gets passed? Or the preamble of the consitiution?

[the film freak]

The VCR, the DVD, and TiVo. There's no need to set aside a block of time anymore for any programming. Kids like watching the same things over and over (I oughta know -- when my daughter was 4 she watched ALICE IN WONDERLAND back-to-back at least once a day for the better part of a year) so a fistfulla DVDs will satisfy them better than waiting to watch a broadcast episode that will be interrupted with commercials.

Throw video games into the mix and there's precious little motivation for any audience segment to build their schedules around what networks choose to program.

Not to mention the fact there's several cable channels that cater almost exclusively to children.

[fireball87o]

i miss the great saturday mornings of the past :o

The Smurfs, the X-Men, He-Man & She-ra, Jem, Beverly Hills Teens, Spiderman & his Amazing Friends where have you gone?

[Buzz Dixon]

i miss the great saturday mornings of the past :o

The Smurfs, the X-Men, He-Man & She-ra, Jem, Beverly Hills Teens, Spiderman & his Amazing Friends where have you gone?
To DVD... :p

[Howard Allan]

none of you guys are old enough to know the real great saturday morning kids lineups. The 60's were the truely great lineup years. you didn't just have great cartoons but greatshows with puppets like fireball xl5 and stingray and captain scarlett and the mysterions. they may sound lame now,but they were great shows. the original jonny quest blows most everything out of the water. the 60's were a truely great decade for saturday mornings.

[fireball87o]

To DVD... :p

too bad not all of them made the transition! :(

[Buzz Dixon]

too bad not all of them made the transition! :(
They're coming -- I just did a commentary track to a batch of 'em that will be out this fall.

[yeoman]

Too bad it doesn't hold a candle to the original series:( ...

If by that you mean the Estman and Laird comics, sure. Though a number of episodes are virtually word for word of some of those issues.

If you mean the 80's Turtles show, then I disagree. Sure it might be entertaining if you're a kid, and that's fine. Kid's need entertainment too. But a truely good show can be enjoyed by people of any age, if, perhaps, for different reasons.

I mean, look at Masters of the Universe. I loved that show as a kid. Now I watch it and it's like a series of half hour long gay jokes.

[Krichton]

I don't seem to recall the FCC having any such power. Who decides whether something is educational or not and why in god's name would this be a priority for the FCC who for the record had very limited powers during the 80's compared to today.

[JDogindy]

I don't seem to recall the FCC having any such power. Who decides whether something is educational or not and why in god's name would this be a priority for the FCC who for the record had very limited powers during the 80's compared to today.
Dude, you don't know how powerful the FCC really is.

They put bars over your privates, horn out bad words, and replace body parts with bells.

[Buzz Dixon]

I don't seem to recall the FCC having any such power. Who decides whether something is educational or not and why in god's name would this be a priority for the FCC who for the record had very limited powers during the 80's compared to today.
I was there; they had ENORMOUS clout!

[Buzz Dixon]

Dude, you don't know how powerful the FCC really is.

They put bars over your privates, horn out bad words, and replace body parts with bells.
The FCC doesn't have the power to do that.

The FCC has the power to make broadcasters wish they had done it! :p

[blackdragon6]

Here's my FOX station saturday morning lineup:
6:00 Paid Programming
6:30 Steel Dreams
7:00 Awesome Adventures
7:30 Animal Rescue
8:00 Wild About Animals
8:30 Animal Atlas
9:00 Pet Keeping With Marc Morrone
9:30 Safari Tracks
10:00 Urban Style
10:30 Latin Lifestyles
11:00 Paid Programming
12:00 M*A*S*H


6:00 Local news
8:00 Today
10:00 Same lineup as yours
12:00 Flight 29 Down
12:30 Endurance
1:00p.m. Teen Kids News

6:00 Paid Programming
7:00 Exploration With Richard Wiese
7:30 Paid Programming
8:00 Same lineup as yours (it should be noted that all of ABC Kids shows are reruns of shows from the Disney owned cable channals)
1:00p.m. NBA Access With Ahmad Rashad
1:30 Movie

6:00 Paid Programming
7:00 Good Morning
9:00 Little Bill
9:30 Blue's Clues
10:00 LazyTown
10:30 Go, Diego, Go!
11:00 The Backyardigans
11:30 Dora the Explorer
12:00 Paid Programming
2:00p.m. Golf

6:00 Paid Programming
7:00 Sherlock Holmes in the 22nd Century
7:30 Wild America
8:00 Beautiful Homes & Great Estates
8:30 Today's Homeowner With Danny Lipford
9:00 Hometime
9:30 Travel in Style
10:00 This Old House Classics
10:30 AutomotiveVision.TV
11:00 The American Athlete
11:30 Ebert & Roeper
12:00 Movies until 8:00p.m.

WB
6:00 Paid Programming
6:30 Russ Dalbey Presents
7:00 Loonatics Unleashed
8:00 Viewtiful Joe
8:30 The Batman
9:00 Xiaolin Showdown
9:30 Loonatics Unleashed
10:00 Pokémon
10:30 Coconut Fred's Fruit Salad Island
11:00 Johnny Test
11:30 Yu-Gi-Oh!
12:00 Movies till 6:00p.m.the shit that comes on fox afiliate are NOT cartoons people lol

[CDB]

ABC:
8am: Good Morning America
9am: Lilo & Stitch
9:30am: The Emperor's New School
10am: The Proud Family
10:30am: That's So Raven
11am: The Suite Life
11:30am: Phil of the Future
noon: Kim Possible
12:30pm: Power Rangers Mystic Force
(Sports & infomercials take over after 1pm)


Not including Nick, Toon Disney, Boomerrang an Cartoon Network...This is pretty much the best lineup, omitting Power Rangers and the live action sitcoms.



WB
6:00 Paid Programming
6:30 Russ Dalbey Presents
7:00 Loonatics Unleashed
8:00 Viewtiful Joe
8:30 The Batman
9:00 Xiaolin Showdown
9:30 Loonatics Unleashed
10:00 Pokémon
10:30 Coconut Fred's Fruit Salad Island
11:00 Johnny Test
11:30 Yu-Gi-Oh!


.....That lineup is 100% crap:mad: Kids WB has pretty much hit and stayed at rock bottom after they canceled X-men: Evoultion.

[Jeremy A. Patterson]

CBS' new fall Saturday morning line-up was the most radical change of direction of all of the network's SatAM line-ups. They felt that the Nick Jr. stuff of the previous season was a little too tame & they wanted to go for the audience of ABC's line-up [That maens you, CDB!]. CBS' parent company, Viacom, already has two suitable stables of shows that could compete with the ABC stable, The N & TEENick. But for some reason, CBS brass felt the two stables were not up to snuff, & felt that they could cut a better deal by having DIC [Not one of the most reliable producers of children's television out there] to package the new line-up. Apparently, CBS felt that the shows should be hosted by girls, so they hired a group of five teenage girls in pajamas. They also felt that the line-up needed a sponsor, so they hired America Online to do the job. The result is 'AOL's Secret Slumber Party On CBS'.

The line-up conists of:

7:30 AM/6:30 AM Central: Cake (What a weird name for a live-action show! Cake is also the name of the show's star. It is a hybrid of a how-to show & a sitcom!)
8 AM/7 AM Central: Dance Revolution (A dance show that is based on Konami's hit dance video game franchise!)

Around 8:30 AM, the line-up takes a break to make room for news programs! Then...

10 AM/9 AM Central: The New Adventures of Madeline (Based on the book series!)
10:30 AM/9:30 AM Central: Sabrina: The Animated Series (This the one with 12-year-old Sabrina that aired around 1999!)
11 AM/10 AM Central: Trollz (This show is the one with the quintet of female Trollz that resemble the sailor Moon bunch [DIC produced the English translation of Sailor Moon back in the day!]. The Trollz look more humanoid than Troll!)
11:30 AM/10:30 AM Central: Horseland (An all new show that revolves around a group of girls who love to ride horses!)


Do you like this line-up, or do you hate it?

See you later!

Jeremy Aron Patterson.

[CDB]

CBS' new fall Saturday morning line-up was the most radical change of direction of all of the network's SatAM line-ups. They felt that the Nick Jr. stuff of the previous season was a little too tame & they wanted to go for the audience of ABC's line-up [That maens you, CDB!]. CBS' parent company, Viacom, already has two suitable stables of shows that could compete with the ABC stable, The N & TEENick. But for some reason, CBS brass felt the two stables were not up to snuff, & felt that they could cut a better deal by having DIC [Not one of the most reliable producers of children's television out there] to package the new line-up. Apparently, CBS felt that the shows should be hosted by girls, so they hired a group of five teenage girls in pajamas. They also felt that the line-up needed a sponsor, so they hired America Online to do the job. The result is 'AOL's Secret Slumber Party On CBS'.

The line-up conists of:

7:30 AM/6:30 AM Central: Cake (What a weird name for a live-action show! Cake is also the name of the show's star. It is a hybrid of a how-to show & a sitcom!)
8 AM/7 AM Central: Dance Revolution (A dance show that is based on Konami's hit dance video game franchise!)

Around 8:30 AM, the line-up takes a break to make room for news programs! Then...

10 AM/9 AM Central: The New Adventures of Madeline (Based on the book series!)
10:30 AM/9:30 AM Central: Sabrina: The Animated Series (This the one with 12-year-old Sabrina that aired around 1999!)
11 AM/10 AM Central: Trollz (This show is the one with the quintet of female Trollz that resemble the sailor Moon bunch [DIC produced the English translation of Sailor Moon back in the day!]. The Trollz look more humanoid than Troll!)
11:30 AM/10:30 AM Central: Horseland (An all new show that revolves around a group of girls who love to ride horses!)


Do you like this line-up, or do you hate it?






There's a line-up that sucks more the Kids WB's now!!:rolleyes:

[Aggie]

i think a lot of stuff contributed to the obliteration of the saturday morning cartoon extravaganza...the fcc, cheaper imports, crapass shows, and most of all, an ever changing demographic...which i think is the key things here...mostkids today are heavily into "activities" and scheduled fun that there really isn't anyone left to watch morning cartoon except nostagiac adults lamenting the demise of our beloved weekend rituals that centered on our cartoon viewing...we live in an age where kids can make their own cartoons on thier computers or download them to their video game systems...
i have cousins ranging from 7-14 and i hang out w/ them cuz they're pretty much the coolest people i know and they keep me on my toes, so when i get my boxed set of thundercats and he-man or whatever i've bought that particular day, i watch some episodes w/ them and the first thing they say is..."this is so 'old school'"...and i think most kids have that mentality,
so what you wind up getting stuck w/ is a show like "bratz," or other merchandizers' wet dreams and to be honest, that scares the holy shit out of me because a lot of what you see now, reinforces the worst kind of consumerism...and that's not the kind of thing i want my cousins to be sucked into, especially if that's the only thing they take away from it...at least when you watched fat albert, there was half minute blurb about why drugs are bad...but hey that's just this old lady talkin'...:D

[Atom_basher]

I would say the only channel trying to broadcast a decent saturday morning line up is kids WB lets hope they continue

[Jeremy A. Patterson]

There's a line-up that sucks more the Kids WB's now!!:rolleyes:


Do you think CBS should have either kept the Nick Jr. stuff or placed some of 'The N' or 'TEENick' shows on the line-up in order to compete with ABC's stable?


J.A.P.

[blackdragon6]

Do you think CBS should have either kept the Nick Jr. stuff or placed some of 'The N' or 'TEENick' shows on the line-up in order to compete with ABC's stable?


J.A.P.they should have went with "The N"

[drwho]

This is what i think of anime and how they use those poor animals in oppresive sports like slaves..

http://fanart.lionking.org/Artists/JC/Pikachu.jpg

[darkwolf]

"Now, we have anime, anime, or anime. Oh, and don't forget America's attempts at copying anime"
Here in Portugal is the same crap. Bad anime all mourning long. I miss He-man, Defenders of the earth, transformers, original ninja turtles and others.

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

i really don't buy the internet and video game exscuse.ESPECIALY the video game excuse as to why SATAM cartoons are dying.truth is there was video games during the 80's and early 90's aswell.any real kid would put their games on hold to catch gi:joe,and transformers.i know i put zelda down in order to catch my alf cartoon.

[Super Macho Man]

i really don't buy the internet and video game exscuse.ESPECIALY the video game excuse as to why SATAM cartoons are dying.truth is there was video games during the 80's and early 90's aswell.any real kid would put their games on hold to catch gi:joe,and transformers.i know i put zelda down in order to catch my alf cartoon.
Not only that, Tish, but if we wanna get technical, the video game boom of the late 80s and early 90s brought in a whole bunch of game related saturday morning cartoons. Many of which were highly successful and treated as gems of yesteryear.

[Your Imaginary Pal]

Too bad it doesn't hold a candle to the original series:( ...
I think it's truer to the Eastman & Laird series in style and content.
They did they Donatello/Kirby issue. For that they have my approval.

[Aggie]

i really don't buy the internet and video game exscuse.ESPECIALY the video game excuse as to why SATAM cartoons are dying.truth is there was video games during the 80's and early 90's aswell.any real kid would put their games on hold to catch gi:joe,and transformers.i know i put zelda down in order to catch my alf cartoon.


to be honest...we didn't have the kinds of video games that exist now and kids today, don't have the cartoons we had then...for the most part, cartoons now suck...and that's pretty much the bottom line...i know if i were a kid now, i'd be more inclined to play video games than watch cartoons...as for the anime thing, i grew up watching speed racer, g-force, marine boy,all star blazers, robotech, voltron and saber rider and the star sherrifs and it didn't lesson my love for super friends, g.i. joe, transformers, etc...i think there's a over proliferation of bad anime, but as it was stated before, it's affordable, ample, and basically that's pretty much what's availible for kids in that medium, as much of anime has more adult content...i guess this is just one of the signs we're getting older and it makes me feel wierd that i can now empathize w/ my dad when he says "back in by day..."... :D

[Hiromi]

I for one support this change, it gives me another reason to sleep in till noon on weekends.

[CDB]

I would say the only channel trying to broadcast a decent saturday morning line up is kids WB lets hope they continue



....are you joking!:(

[Erik Lehnsherr]

The X-Men/Spider-Man days are gone and that SUCKS.

[Jeremy A. Patterson]

I would say the only channel trying to broadcast a decent saturday morning line up is kids WB lets hope they continue
So, Atom Basher, which weekend morning network TV line-up of the past five to eight years do you think is the WORST of the WORST?


You can go with a specific season's line-up. You can also include Sunday morning line-ups as well!


J.A.P.

[CDB]

UPN did have the most kickass Sunday morining line-up... It had The 90's Hulk and Ironman cartoons, Roinn Warriors and Technoman

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

to be honest...we didn't have the kinds of video games that exist now and kids today, don't have the cartoons we had then...for the most part, cartoons now suck...and that's pretty much the bottom line...i know if i were a kid now, i'd be more inclined to play video games than watch cartoons...as for the anime thing, i grew up watching speed racer, g-force, marine boy,all star blazers, robotech, voltron and saber rider and the star sherrifs and it didn't lesson my love for super friends, g.i. joe, transformers, etc...i think there's a over proliferation of bad anime, but as it was stated before, it's affordable, ample, and basically that's pretty much what's availible for kids in that medium, as much of anime has more adult content...i guess this is just one of the signs we're getting older and it makes me feel wierd that i can now empathize w/ my dad when he says "back in by day..."... :Deiitherway it goes to show you how screwed up things are when it comes to american cartoons.

[Nevets F]

This is a great thread....it reminds me of my childhood. I would hate to get up to go to school on Weekdays, but I was up at 5:30 AM on Saturdays to watch cartoons. Those were the days! Weekday afternoons were great too....WGN had the BEST weekday afternoon shows. G.I. Joe, Transformers, Jem.....sigh...

[Citizen V]

Its been said that FOX was the American cartoon channel during the 1990`s for X-Men and Spider-man.But in the late 1990`s FOX did not like the fact that Marvel was gaining a huge following due to the success of X-Men and Spider-Man.

So,both cartoons were canceled.Leaving Spider-Man in the eternal cliffhanger viewers remember in the final episode "Farewell Spider-Man".It was a disaster,when FOX`s raitings fell 31 percent.This is a fact,and FOX`s morning line up never recovered.

True,anime did play a fault.When Poke`mon debued it crushed Spider-Man:Unlimited when it aired,episodes were aired only 3 times before the show was taken off.

Cartoons now only seem to appear during a nighttime line up,but those who remember waking up in the morning to see quality cartoons in the early and mid 1990`s,that is something to cherish.