Superboy Prime and Dan Didio..

[lonewolf23k]

You know, I got thinking about Infinite Crisis..

It's like Superboy Prime's attitude and goals involving the DCU mirror Dan Didio's..

They both want to remake the DCU into a Silver Age version of itself...

...Unfortunetly, they both try to accomplish this by butchering a lot of modern age characters, which kinda misses the damn point!

[Tom]

I really don't see how Didio is remaking the DCU into "a Silver Age version of itself."

[NotSuper]

I really don't see how Didio is remaking the DCU into "a Silver Age version of itself."
The situation is kind of funny, actually. If Didio wanted to revert the universe back he could've done so without a huge crossover. He certainly wouldn't have had only one universe or killed off the Earth-2 Superman either.

And as for Superboy-Prime, he only wants HIS world back, not the other pre-Crisis worlds. Alex didn't want them all back either--he wanted the "perfect" Earth of his own creation. Kal-L too only wanted Earth-2 back. Each of the survivors had their own goals. None of them wanted pre-Crisis multiverse back.

If you had to compare Didio with someone from Infinite Crisis (and I question why anyone would want to link him to a fictional character in the first place--except maybe his twin brother Jax-Ur, of course) it would be Alex Luthor, who wanted his version of a perfect Earth.

I think it's kind of funny how both the post and pre-Crisis fans (and I've seen them) think Didio is against them. It's doubtful that he's against either.

That's all I'm going to say on the matter.

[SuperManny]

I really don't see how Didio is remaking the DCU into "a Silver Age version of itself."

I've noticed you've asked this before on a past thread Tom. I'm just curious how you define the "Silver Age", because I think most of us, when we say there's a Silver Age makeover happening, imply that the characters are looking like they did pre-Crisis. Even with the occasionally tweaking with their continuities to resemble how it was in the past.

Are you implying that you don't see it because the writing style is different from then?

:confused:

[Tom]

I've noticed you've asked this before on a past thread Tom. I'm just curious how you define the "Silver Age", because I think most of us, when we say there's a Silver Age makeover happening, imply that the characters are looking like they did pre-Crisis. Even with the occasionally tweaking with their continuities to resemble how it was in the past.

Are you implying that you don't see it because the writing style is different from then?

:confused:

Define what you mean when you say they "look" like they did pre-Crisis. Are you talking purely visual? I guess I sort of agree, except a lot of characters have very different costumes from their Silver Age counterparts. If you mean more generally, then I definitely don't see it. Clark and Lois are married, there's no multiverse, there's a host of recently dead characters, Wonder Woman is a killer, the original Teen Titans grew up, got married and had kids (most of them), Barbara Gordon is in a wheelchair, Ollie has a grown son, The JSA consists almost entirely of new members taking over for the originals, etc. Any one of these would have been considered shocking deviations from the norm back in the silver age, but when you look at them collectively, then they don't look like the silver age at all to me.

[SuperManny]

Define what you mean when you say they "look" like they did pre-Crisis. Are you talking purely visual? I guess I sort of agree, except a lot of characters have very different costumes from their Silver Age counterparts....

Yeah, I was mostly implying visual. Namely: Aquaman, Hawkman, GL Hal Jordan and Green Arrow are all back to their Silver Age costumed looks. Superman has more of a Silver Age origin, as does Supergirl (compared to the Matrix version). Kid Flash came back. Superboy is gone now, and this "New Earth" is supposed to have hints that Kal-El Superboy existed. Most titles have the looks they did in the Silver Age (see the upcoming "Justice League of America" and the current "Firestorm" look). Batman is supposed to be written less of a jerk now.

These are all hints that fanboys like me have picked up on that there's a new pattern of retro thought in the editors and master manipulators.

*loved the comic books as they were pre-Infinite Crisis*

[soda]

I agree with Tom.

IMHO, "new earth" isn't strictly a silver age earth, "new earth" is more like a greatest hits composite of the things that have come before it, and while this certainly has a silver age flavor to it, I think it's wrong to label it a direct copy of what happened in the silver age.

"New earth" isn't exactly like anything that has come before it, some stuff is totally new, other stuff is stuff that has been incorporated in from various epochs, still other things are the same as they have ever been. I think the best way to describe "new earth" is as a greatest hits collection, with a new coat of paint, a new hat, and a silver age flavor.

[SuperManny]

I think the best way to describe "new earth" is as a greatest hits collection, with a new coat of paint, a new hat, and a silver age flavor.

I never really implied it was directly the Silver Age all over again. There's definitely a strong flavor though, and that's what most of complainers are picking up on.

And, not agreeing with ;)

[yeoman]

I agree with Tom.

IMHO, "new earth" isn't strictly a silver age earth, "new earth" is more like a greatest hits composite of the things that have come before it, and while this certainly has a silver age flavor to it, I think it's wrong to label it a direct copy of what happened in the silver age.

"New earth" isn't exactly like anything that has come before it, some stuff is totally new, other stuff is stuff that has been incorporated in from various epochs, still other things are the same as they have ever been. I think the best way to describe "new earth" is as a greatest hits collection, with a new coat of paint, a new hat, and a silver age flavor.

New Earth, New Avengers, New Coke... I'm seeing a pattern...

Now, don't get me wrong, so far I'm digging more of the ONe Year later stuff than I was the pre-IC stuff. But that's because of Robinson, Giffen and Busiek.

Maybe I'm just biased against it due to the bad taste IC left, what with being so disjointed thematically.