What once was old, now is new...

[west3man]

Anybody else noticed a mini-trend o' retro-dom in comics-related stuff, these days? **(mini spoiler warning for those who haven't read comics from the past week or two)**


* JLU & DCU villians team-up in a Legion of Doom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legion_of_doom) kinda way (even going so far as to have a "Vader head"▪ in swamp for a headquarters)

* Superman loses his powers, again, (which wouldn't be as reminiscent of the except) then they used a guy with solar powers to recharge him (then it was Starman (http://www.figment.org/torch/custom/daleroberts/starman.jpg), now it's The Ray (http://members.tripod.com/~teensdc/ray.gif))

* THEN - Mutant Registration Act, NOW - Super-powered folks Registration... movement or something (see Marvel's CIVIL WAR (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_War_(comics)))


Are there any other examples out there?





▪ - nods to Tom

[Harlock]

Isn't JLU doing a #0 book?

[west3man]

Isn't JLU doing a #0 book?
I don't know. I don't read the comic (although I've tried an issue or three). I was talking about the cartoon.

[Harlock]

I don't know. I don't read the comic (although I've tried an issue or three). I was talking about the cartoon.
Ahhh. Cool. I still think of #0's as retro-ish. It was one of those 90's "foil stamp a roll of TP and have Liefeld sign it!" kind of death of comics things i remember.

[west3man]

Ahhh. Cool. I still think of #0's as retro-ish. It was one of those 90's "foil stamp a roll of TP and have Liefeld sign it!" kind of death of comics things i remember.
Ahh.

I kinda like'em, but I guess you're right.

[Michael P]

Everything old is new again
Everything under the sun
All of our fears come true again
Recycle, reuse
Resent and refuse
Our parents' ideals and views

[west3man]

Oh yeah. Gotta mention the string o' DC Crisiseseses (crises, I know).

One-time for Luthor's battlesuit (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/36/Sb6.png/250px-Sb6.png).

[Forefinger]

Yeah I might have posted about that if I could have thought about something that would be suitably nonsensical to go along with it.

[BoosterBronze]

* JLU & DCU villians team-up in a Legion of Doom (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legion_of_doom) kinda way (even going so far as to have a "Vader head"▪ in swamp for a headquarters)


You know, that's not a mini-trend. If you're referring to the Secret Society storyline, wasn't that also kindof the plot to last years JLU, as well as Alex Ross's new book? Even down to the Joker not being invited?

ps.
not that I'm complaining, because these are three of the best stories I've read in five years.

[west3man]

You know, that's not a mini-trend. If you're referring to the Secret Society storyline, wasn't that also kindof the plot to last years JLU, as well as Alex Ross's new book? Even down to the Joker not being invited?
I'm a little confused. The first word in the post you quoted was "JLU."

The things you mention seem to reinforce what I said.

[mattbib]

Marvel released New Avengers Annual #1, not because it was a required annual event, but because there was a relevant story that needed to be told outside the confines of the monthlies.

[west3man]

Marvel released New Avengers Annual #1, not because it was a required annual event, but because there was a relevant story that needed to be told outside the confines of the monthlies.
Is that "retro" because they pretty much stopped doing annuals some time back or because of some other reason? (I'm not firing on all cylinders, today, so I had to ask.)

[BoosterBronze]

I'm a little confused. The first word in the post you quoted was "JLU."

The things you mention seem to reinforce what I said.

You mentioned JLU & DCU, I was just also tossing out "Justice" as a third example (with some poor syntax). I was agreeing with you're point, but what I mean was it wasn't a mini-trend, it's a full fledged MOVEMENT of putting the Legion of Doom back together.

[west3man]

This excerpt from the latest installment of THE COMIC WIRE (http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=7304) reminded me of this thread's topic. It seems pretty accurate, too.

' JONAH WEILAND: Allright, keeping all that in mind and the fact that "Kingdom Come" has helped inspire a new generation of comics creators, how would you do the book differently today? Or would you do it any differently?

ALEX ROSS: Well, it's weird, because right now I could argue that the book is being done today, not so much in what I see DC doing, but with what I see Marvel doing in "Civil War." Really, "Kingdom Come" was meant to be a civil war between two different armies of super humans, particularly super heroes. You know, one team was mostly Batman, the other team mostly Superman. The story evolved in a very different way from that original intention of mine, but when I see what they're doing with Captain America and Iron Man and "which side" and the whole idea that there's this one, nuclear, devastating moment that sets off this whirl wind of change where the heroes have to put their own house in order, that's basically the set-up of "Kingdom Come." '


What do you think?

[Alex]

Oh yeah. Gotta mention the string o' DC Crisiseseses (crises, I know).

One-time for Luthor's battlesuit (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/36/Sb6.png/250px-Sb6.png).
Yknow, i've never understood that suit.
Sure, he's strong and can fly, but his head is unprotected, which means luther, in super suit, can still be beaten if you toss a brick at his head.

[west3man]

Yknow, i've never understood that suit.
Sure, he's strong and can fly, but his head is unprotected, which means luther, in super suit, can still be beaten if you toss a brick at his head.
Apparently, Morrison (and/or Quitely) agreed with you, because in JLA: EARTH 2, they had him sporting a helmet with that battlesuit. The only time I remember seeing the helmet was when he landed on "our" Earth in front of that country couple.

[Perry Holley]

Yknow, i've never understood that suit.
Sure, he's strong and can fly, but his head is unprotected, which means luther, in super suit, can still be beaten if you toss a brick at his head.I seem to recall that pre-Crisis it wasn't so much the suit itself that protected him per se, but rather the invisible force field that the suit generated.

[Forefinger]

I seem to recall that pre-Crisis it wasn't so much the suit itself that protected him per se, but rather the invisible force field that the suit generated.
I remember their being a forcefield. And......who would want to cover up their bald head? The chicks dig 'em!