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Lord of Denial

05-05-2006, 06:24 PM

I went to see MI3 today and I liked it. The action was non-stop and exciting and the gadgets where cool but it seemed like they forgot about an actual plot and wasted Hoffman in a villian role was generic at best. He had no real motive and no endgame.

Anyone else feel the movie lacked plot and wasted Hoffman?

Arune Singh

05-05-2006, 08:11 PM

It felt like it was missing one act that gave some OOMPH. It all felt pedestrian. I think 24 has ruined action films for me.

ElijahS23

05-06-2006, 12:52 AM

UniqueFrequency

05-06-2006, 01:17 AM

Would you guys rate it better than 2? I only liked the first one, and even then thought that some of the acting (whatshername who came back to Hunt's hotel room and Ving Rhames (sp?) surprisingly..) was pretty terrible. But still way better than 2..

i thought 2 was better because of the final fight scenes. I don't know whether it was because i knew Abrams was directing and helped to plot it, but some parts of it felt very "Alias" to me

StoneGold

05-06-2006, 01:37 AM

Haven't seen the movie, but the music was fucking awesome. Michael Giacchino rules!

ElijahS23

05-06-2006, 01:39 AM

As a funny 'aside' (at least to me), Howard Stern occassionally plays a sound bite of one of the Williams Sisters at the Oscars being interviewed about who she's excited to see that night. Her answer: " ...Philip Semen Hoffmore!"

I can't help but lose it every time I hear it :D

Error_2.0

05-06-2006, 05:33 PM

I liked it but they didn't have enough of Hoffman's character, he was an excellent badguy. And the missions didn't seem THAT impossible, especially when they had the cop-out of "Lets just swing onto the roof.", the ending was really corny too...those are my only complaints

titanfan

05-06-2006, 05:37 PM

Would you guys rate it better than 2?

I haven't seen it yet--but I can already say with 99.999999999% certainty that it's better than 2. (I mean, how could it not?)

Steve Brady

05-06-2006, 06:21 PM

I still prefer the first one, only because nothing can repeat the experience of my going into the theatre and saying "oh this is fun, they're a cool spy team, all in control, and hey its Emilio Estevez! who OMF HE JUST TOOK IT IN THE FACE!!"

This movie? The pilot of Alias, with a bigger budget. If that works for you, you'll have a great time, as I did. If they wanna keep churning these out, well, they'll be a whole lot better than most of the crap we get.

Did it feel Mission Impossible? Not particularly. Hell, the whole third act was essentially a series of fistfights. Only the fulcrum felt outrageous enough. I did like the joke of how we don't see him in there, though.

But Abrams on the big screen: yes indeedy.

UniqueFrequency

05-07-2006, 12:58 AM

This movie? The pilot of Alias, with a bigger budget. If that works for you, you'll have a great time, as I did. If they wanna keep churning these out, well, they'll be a whole lot better than most of the crap we get.

But Abrams on the big screen: yes indeedy.

agreed. pilot or any episode of Alias minus the Rimbaldi stuff

Mia

05-07-2006, 09:10 AM

This movie? The pilot of Alias, with a bigger budget. If that works for you, you'll have a great time, as I did. If they wanna keep churning these out, well, they'll be a whole lot better than most of the crap we get.

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Yup that's what I thought too. Alias with a bigger budget and a male lead. But I loved it. Very intelligent and a fun ride. Far better than it's first two predecessors. I'll probably end up seeing it again.

Leslie Lee III

05-07-2006, 09:35 AM

I enjoyed it a lot. I've NEVER watched a single episode of Alias, but I'll check it out if this movie resembles it. Lots of great action.

My only real complaint were the drab casting for the new team members. They wanted to up that aspect, but didn't cast any people that I'd respect immediately in those roles since I'd never seen any of them before. I mean, they all did their jobs perfectly well, but I could have gotten more attached if they weren't all relative unknowns.

Steve Brady

05-07-2006, 09:41 AM

Scottsdale_Saint

05-07-2006, 12:43 PM

i went with several friends on friday night, and all of us thoroughly enjoyed this. really liked that for most of the movie the 'team' aspect was actually true to the original series.

i thought keri russell was completely badass and she would've been a great replacement for jennifer garner on alias if they could actually get some inspired writers on the show.

Legato

05-07-2006, 03:17 PM

I just came back from watching MI: 3 and I gotta say that movie was really fantastic.

Hoffman was sinister as the villain but you hardly ever see much of him in the movie except the beginning of the film and the ending.

I say this is waaay better than John Woo's pet project. MI:3 could be considered more of a sequal to the first film than MI:2. Nice to see the return of the team aspect that the first movie had and that all of Ethan's team wasn't killed this time.

Adaptoid

05-07-2006, 05:39 PM

I'd sure like to see a real Mission Impossible plot rather than a straight action movie with Mission Impossible in the title. Sure, they threw in the obligatory mask impersonation scene -- and it was well done effects wise, but as others have mentioned, it was simply an Alias episode with a different cast and caper. Lots of TV actors. It was much better than the first two as far as entertainment value.

I'm happy there was not the usual Tom Cruise vanity scene where he just does something cool for no reason than for Tom Cruise to look cool.

I think when Cruise is about 5 years older with a wisp of grey and some facial lines to match, he'd make a great Tony Stark for an "Iron Man" movie.

Just once I'd like to see these blockbusters have a good script and go beyond formula. The tight plotting, split-second timing and suspense of the Mission Impossible TV show would make a great movie if only someone could put it on paper like the old days.

I'll never forgive Tom Cruise for turning Jim Phelps into a bad guy in MI:1 and taking over the lead role with a new character of his own. My thought is that they unnecessarily changed vital elements of Mission Impossible so that Cruise could be a big shot, rather than for an essential story element.

Cruise should have just assumed the role of Rollin Hand from Martin Laudau and advanced the plot from there.

It was good that they worked in musical elements from the TV series -- very well done.

Script is a C+ -- good action -- story forgettable and plot nothing inspiring, decent action and stunt and effects. A good villian wasted as others have mentioned.

Cayman

05-07-2006, 06:27 PM

It was pretty good, really the first one in the series that I've liked. It went on a bit too long, and some of the love stuff was more embarrasing than Anakin/Padme romance in Star Wars Episode 2, but I was entertained.

I wish it wasn't a Felicity snuff movie though. I wanted to see Keri Russell kick more ass. :(

Cay

Cayman

05-07-2006, 06:29 PM

Ooh, I forgot. Seemed a little stupid for the agents to use their real names around the bad guys.

Cay

Slappy san

05-07-2006, 06:47 PM

Anyone suprised by its box office take?

Cayman

05-07-2006, 06:53 PM

Anyone suprised by its box office take?

Yeah, kinda. It only made, what, $8 million more than "Scary Movie 4"?

It's really the first big blockbuster of the year, I thought it would've done better.

My theater at 1.00pm today was pretty full though.

Cay

Legato

05-07-2006, 06:57 PM

Anyone suprised by its box office take?

Considering Tom's negative publicity he had been getting before the movie came out not really.

It may make more during the second week hopefully.

Cayman

05-07-2006, 07:29 PM

It'd be embarrassing if it got outgrossed by "Poseidon".

Cay

ambush bug

05-07-2006, 07:38 PM

I just saw it and it was ok but phillip seymour hoffman was agood villian but with no real reason. Second it's called "Mission Imossible: because it's impossible to do that stuff being muliated

Legato

05-07-2006, 07:45 PM

It'd be embarrassing if it got outgrossed by "Poseidon".

Cay

Actually It'd be embarrassing if it got outgrossed by Over The Hedge.

CDB

05-08-2006, 10:13 AM

I'd seen it last night. But good, I'm suprised it didn't huge box office numbers. You Crusie for that. But he did good in this one.

kisit111

05-08-2006, 10:47 AM

I'd seen it last night. But good, I'm suprised it didn't huge box office numbers. You Crusie for that. But he did good in this one.

No. It did. You can see here http://einsiders.com/gross.php But like Batman & Robin or Batman Begins next week will tell us if it's going to make it big or flop on it's way down. The 2ED week always tells us that. But from this pont I don't know.

HomerJay

05-08-2006, 11:52 AM

My thoughts:

- Hoffman was excellent (no surprise). I liked how he was more Auric Goldfinger than just a villainous version of Ethan.
- To my surprise, I actually bought Felicity as a spy. She really reminded me of a young Joan Allen for some reason.
- There was very little Cruise vanity stuff going on here. In fact, he spent most of the movie getting his ass kicked (or running for his life) and it was clear that Hoffman's Davian was MUCH smarter than him.
- There were definitely some WTF? moments like when he introduced his wife to all his top-secret spy buddies.
- The action was very well done and did stretch your suspension of disbelief, but not to John Woo levels.

My wife made the interesting comment that the reason Cruise probably enjoys playing Ethan Hunt so much is because the character is essentially him. 24/7 hyper, controlling, reading peoples lips across a party, etc.

Jared

05-08-2006, 01:29 PM

My thoughts:

- To my surprise, I actually bought Felicity as a spy. She really reminded me of a young Joan Allen for some reason.

I can definitely see that. Hell, she was the best of Joan Allen's daughters in The Upside of Anger. I'm glad to hear she did the spy stuff well, that's something I was worried about.

Greg Hatcher

05-08-2006, 02:17 PM

We enjoyed it, especially seeing more of a 'team' dynamic, as so many others have mentioned. Also very happy to have gotten more of the original music worked into the score. Lots of great nods to the original, particularly the Vatican sequence... but still, THREE movies now and no "goodbye-dumbass" group wave! I really miss that, damn it!

Also, yeah, Cruise is a nut, but you know? In the movies I've seen him in, the guy delivers the goods. He works hard. The M:I movies, Jerry Maguire, A Few Good Men, etc.... he always wins me over. It's a shame for his kids that he's a couple of eggs shy of an omelet, but hell, it never seems to disrupt my movie experience.

ragnarok_2012

05-08-2006, 03:19 PM

Cayman

05-08-2006, 03:26 PM

The team aspect of this one is one of the things I enjoyed most. Would've liked to see an expanded part for Simon Pegg.

Cay

kisit111

05-09-2006, 07:45 PM

I saw the frist two Mission Impossible movies on video. And I thought it was was nothing like the TV show. The think was that the TV show was about the team. But the movie is about one guy. Just one guy and no team. So I never cared about the movies. That's all I can say about the movie.

Conn Seanery

05-09-2006, 08:22 PM

I really enjoyed it. I liked 1 a lot, hated 2, loved 3. Perfect mesh of action and story, lots of fun.

The Punished

05-09-2006, 10:44 PM

I really enjoyed it. I liked 1 a lot, hated 2, loved 3. Perfect mesh of action and story, lots of fun.

I agree. I really liked #3. It was really put together good story with great action and made you feel like part of the team. #2 seemed to be more about Ethan Hunt & Nyah Hall.

It seemed like Luther was barely in #2.

wildclaw

05-10-2006, 06:48 AM

I liked it, but I didn't like how they didn't show him aquire the Rabit foot and the ending wasn't as intense as MI2 which was dissapointing. Does anybody know what the rabits foot is?

KenK

05-10-2006, 06:52 AM

I liked it, but I didn't like how they didn't show him aquire the Rabit foot and the ending wasn't as intense as MI2 which was dissapointing. Does anybody know what the rabits foot is?

But that's what was cool about it. Getting into the building to get the Rabbit's Foot was nowhere near as interesting as how he was gonna get to the building! And I thought it was great that the nature of the rabbit's foot is never revealed. It's in a biohazard container for cryin' out loud! What more do we really need to know beyond that?!?!

Cyke

05-10-2006, 11:51 AM

A bit off-topic, but I love this clip:

http://pokecruise.ytmnd.com/

Cyke

05-10-2006, 11:52 AM

Well said, Greg.

I've enjoyed all three MI movies, but it was certainly nice seeing some teamwork in this one. I was seriously disappointed in the team in MI 2 (I liked the team in the first MI movie). I found the Australian guy annoying, and Ving Rhame did nothing more sit in front of a laptop and step in feces.

I'm actually surprised that there are hints of romance between two of the rookies. That's a kind of focus that the other two movies would never give to secondary characters.

Cayman

05-10-2006, 12:29 PM

west3man

05-12-2006, 07:36 AM

I thought it was absolutely awesome.

Hoffman was fan-freaking-tastic. Cruise was pretty good, too.

west3man

05-12-2006, 07:38 AM

I don't see spoiler warnings, so I'm trying to be careful about that. Hopefully, it's safe to say the following, though:

Did anybody ELSE notice that building that looked like it could be Cobra headquarters in a frickin' G.I. Joe movie?!

Ontir

05-19-2006, 02:10 AM

Hoffman is THE reason to see this film!

What I'd like to know, is if it's possible for them to make an "MI" film that doesn't involve a turn-coat? Also, did it seem just a little too convenient that Mrs. Hunt, RN turned out to be a crack shot, who is then welcomed into the top-secret IMF HQ? Can they push it any more?!?

Beside him, Cruise is decent, and the action is good. I'm glad I didn't pay for it.

mattbib

05-19-2006, 07:26 AM

Broke down and saw it last night and I rather enjoyed it. It was a good action/suspense movie with some great lines. Though I agree Cruise did spend most of the movie running.

west3man

05-19-2006, 07:40 AM

Broke down and saw it last night and I rather enjoyed it. It was a good action/suspense movie with some great lines. Though I agree Cruise did spend most of the movie running.
For a speed freak like myself, that was kinda cool.

The fact that he was running his ASS off and did his own stunts was pretty impressive, to me.

KenK

05-19-2006, 08:12 AM

Broke down and saw it last night and I rather enjoyed it. It was a good action/suspense movie with some great lines. Though I agree Cruise did spend most of the movie running.

Oh, a time will come when Tom Cruise does nothing but run down an empty street in a movie for two hours! And that'll be the movie to give him his first Oscar!!:D