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Nick Kal
05-02-2006, 11:24 PM
Another fantastic issue!

Batman and Robin head into the sewers and take down a mad Killer Croc who had been munching on... Orca's dead body! Bullock discovers a warehouse where drugs, guns, etc. were being stored and Penguin owned it but has since fled Gotrham since someone spooked him. Magpie, Ventriloquist, Orca, KGBeast were all working for him but Harvey Dent found out and had them acting as spies... they were going to betray Penguin for an unnamed villain but Dent made them stick with Penguin for some reason...

At the end we see Dent in a motel, unharmed... except he sees Two-Face in the mirror. So he isn't scarred at all... just his mind, as usual.

Then the back up is with Jason Bard talking to Orca's husband, who she met in the past year, and gives us some info on what had been happening with the villains, untill he is killed, by a new villain... The Tally Man! He shoots at Jason Bard and it says to be continued...

Great stuff!

AlistairCrane
05-03-2006, 09:04 AM
That's cool. But Tally Man isn't a new villain.

The Batman
05-03-2006, 09:12 AM
tallyman !?! i hope it's the same Tallyman that showed up in SotB back in the 90's. he was neat.

Choppa
05-03-2006, 10:37 AM
What's with all this old villian stuff? Why doesn't Robinson use his run to continue what happened pre-HUSH when everything was just ignored.

literally exaggerated
05-03-2006, 04:17 PM
Anyone else pick this up? I absolutely loved it. Really liking the Jason Bard stories in the back, really liking that thus far this has been almost all detective work, as a Batman comic should be.

infoghost
05-03-2006, 05:09 PM
Another fantastic issue. I really liked the art this time around too.

DracoMalfoy
05-03-2006, 06:39 PM
Love the issue...but who the f*** is Tally-Man...and why does his name have me on the floor in tears...?

Nick Kal
05-03-2006, 08:48 PM
That's cool. But Tally Man isn't a new villain.

He's a new Tally Man.

Sean Whitmore
05-03-2006, 10:35 PM
He's a new Tally Man.


Unless he shrunk 6 feet, gained 200 pounds, and got a helluva tan. :)

I like the return of editorial notes and all, but for pete's sake, do we really need a big ol' caption telling us about a backup strip in the SAME issue? Is there some fear that readers were gonna get to page 17 and just put the book down?


SEAN

Nick Kal
05-03-2006, 10:42 PM
Unless he shrunk 6 feet, gained 200 pounds, and got a helluva tan. :)

I like the return of editorial notes and all, but for pete's sake, do we really need a big ol' caption telling us about a backup strip in the SAME issue? Is there some fear that readers were gonna get to page 17 and just put the book down?


SEAN

They wanted to let people know that it would be explained in case they were going to complain in their heads that it was being ignored.

Barrister
05-03-2006, 11:08 PM
Meh. I am finding Robinson's dialogue increasingly more frustrating as the story drags on. The story is alright, and I especially like him being more of a detective again.

OverMaster
05-04-2006, 06:51 AM
He's a new Tally Man.

But what happened to the original then? Last time I checked he was alive.

And, ugh. I don't like 'Part II' villains.

NathanielEssex
05-04-2006, 09:27 AM
The original Tally Man can be seen in the two-page spread Society-in-Metropolis battle scene in IC #7. He looks like he's about to get the drop on Manhunter.

DarthAstuart
05-04-2006, 12:23 PM
i really enjoyed this issue...i'm loving the backup stories. makes me bummed to think it's unlikely that dini will continue to implement them, but maybe he will. i also hope dini picks up with robinson's ideas and runs with them, because I think he's made some good moves, especially dialing jason bard into the mix and bringing the GCPD back into the fold as more consistent supporting players. it's also just too damn soon after OYL for another writer (no matter how great) to waltz in and revamp things yet again!

Batman Fan 31593
05-04-2006, 12:57 PM
But what happened to the original then? Last time I checked he was alive.

And, ugh. I don't like 'Part II' villains.

I know it's not continuity, but Tally Man was killed in Greg Rucka's No Man's Land novelization, during the part where Two-Face puts Gordon on trial.

Sean Whitmore
05-04-2006, 08:43 PM
I know it's not continuity, but Tally Man was killed in Greg Rucka's No Man's Land novelization, during the part where Two-Face puts Gordon on trial.


Wasn't he also killed in the comic storyline the book adapted that scene from?


SEAN

Space Suit
05-04-2006, 08:53 PM
Wasn't he also killed in the comic storyline the book adapted that scene from?

Nope, he was captured and tied up by Batman.

Babylon23
05-04-2006, 11:19 PM
I'm really enjoying this story at the moment. It's great to see Batman confronted by a proper mystery, one that actually involves seeking out clues and slowly piecing the story together.

the backups have been really nice as well.

This makes me wish James Robinson would return to comics fulltime.

UniqueFrequency
05-05-2006, 08:29 AM
great issue. I'm really liking Batman OYL.

i still don't get why Harvey blew up his house last issue. up to now it still seems to have served no purpose...

i hope Jason Bard is dead.. would be a shame for him to bring back into the fold and then kill him

Karl J. Barnes
05-05-2006, 08:33 AM
Liked the issue, it seems that Bats year off has paid off for him. He seems more in control and seems to have his humanity back.

The Jason Bard story reminds me of Phillip Marlowe, if Marlowe was written in the DCU. Fun stuff.

Damo
05-05-2006, 08:20 PM
Do we know if she (Orca) was allied with them, though... or what her circumstances were? We just know she was there...
Tell you what, if it turns out in the next few issues that Orca somehow wasn't breaking character by standing around talking in an alley with two known killers, I'll owe you a virtual coke.
Unless there's some frantic explaining in the next few issues... no coke for you!

It was an okay issue, but there were osme things that nagged me. The new Tallyman was the main one. Was this necessary? The old Tallyman is still alive, and frankly a pretty neat character.

Orca was still out of character.

Killer Croc seems to mutate and change personalities every time he loses a fight.

Eh. Could have been good, but was flawed.

Oh, and I never want to hear the words "revolving" "door" and "arkham" being used together again. We got it the first million times.

Apathy Boy
05-06-2006, 01:11 AM
... that's not ex-commissioner Akins as the new Tally Man, is it?

i still don't get why Harvey blew up his house last issue. up to now it still seems to have served no purpose...Fittingly enough, there are two reasons:

1) the explosion helped him escape from the World's Greatest Detective and
2) as Harvey explained, the apartment symbolized his new, saner outlook... which he now realized was a lie.

UniqueFrequency
05-06-2006, 01:19 AM
... that's not ex-commissioner Akins as the new Tally Man, is it?

Fittingly enough, there are two reasons:

1) the explosion helped him escape from the World's Greatest Detective and
2) as Harvey explained, the apartment symbolized his new, saner outlook... which he now realized was a lie.

1) yeah it did but kinda extreme to do that
2) works more for me.

i think alot of people thought after the explosion he'd be scarred again, but clearly he isn't... so i wonder when that will happen

Nick Kal
05-07-2006, 12:11 AM
1) yeah it did but kinda extreme to do that
2) works more for me.

i think alot of people thought after the explosion he'd be scarred again, but clearly he isn't... so i wonder when that will happen

if it will happen....














it will!

SdotCopp
05-07-2006, 09:59 AM
i think that is akins (the new tally man)

Scroe
05-09-2006, 01:56 AM
It has to be Akins. How many black guys could there possibly be in Gotham?

Sean Whitmore
05-09-2006, 02:08 AM
It has to be Akins. How many black guys could there possibly be in Gotham?


Hmm...could be the return of Detective "Hardback" Bock.


SEAN

UniqueFrequency
05-09-2006, 11:17 AM
Hmm...could be the return of Detective "Hardback" Bock.


SEAN

was he the one who was given a couple of blocks to protect during NML?

Sean Whitmore
05-09-2006, 01:23 PM
was he the one who was given a couple of blocks to protect during NML?


I think so. I just remember he had something to do with the train that was smuggling people out of Gotham.


SEAN