'Superman Returns' trailer debut! Your reactions....

[SuperManny]

The Superman Returns trailer will debut this May 5th weekend along with the Mission Impossible III movie. This 2:35 minute preview will definitely outshow the previous teaser that can be currently seen online.

Apparently, for the Apple and Quicktime users, the trailer is up and running at:
http://www.apple.com/trailers

Did you get a chance to see the new and exciting trailer? Does it live up to your expectations of the new Superman movie? Did it change your mind about going to see it?

Discuss! :D

[Eric_Carnaby]

Looked ok in some parts, terrible in others.
Nothing that truly made the film a must-see for me.

[Yoda]

Looked incredible to me. Especially the sequence with the plane. Spacey was great as Luthor, Routh looks great as both Superman and Clark. I can't wait for this movie.

[rickfury188]

I can't wait to see the movie!!! The trailer looks awesome. Bryan Singer did a wonderful job to try to capture the essence of Superman in that short of time. :D

[Brian Cronin]

Very cool trailer.

Spacey ruled, in particular.

-Brian

[Drifter]

Awsome trailer, cant wait to see it on the big screen, cant make it to the theaters till Sunday though, so I'll miss out on hearing the crowd reactions :) I love hype!

[Calculator]

Everything looked great, quelling any fears I had for the film thus far but the standout moment of the trailer has to be Lois and Superman flying up past the Daily Planet Globe slowly. I teared up it was so beautiful.

[shadow of a madman]

I think maybye Spacey's Luthor is a little jokey and emotional(with the yelling,and all)but you can't forget this is just a trailer.A few seconds of footage from a 90 minute movie.I think he's a good choice and I'm looking forward to this immensly.

The fact that Singer is smart enough to keep Brandow as Jor-El inspires great faith.I mean,Marlon Brandow is DEAD!He's passed on,he has ceased to be.He is an ex Brandow.(sorry.Random Python moment)But anyway,it would have been SO easy to re-cast Jor-El.But instead he got permisson from MB's estate,dug up some old footage and dialogue and used Bradnow.Why?Because Marlow Brandow makes a good Jor-El.He had the money that he could put him in their,so he did.Nice

And the fact that he used the original music enforces my point.You can't improve on that piece.It's THE Superman music.

And yep,I copy and pasted that from the other thread.My point still stands.
One thing that seemed kinda dumb was the plane wing part.This wasn't his first time saving a downed plane,so he should've known the wing would tear off and just held it up by the nosecone.That was an amature mistake,and there'd better be an excuse....

[Mia]

Looks good. Howver I suspect that I am going to enjoy the portions about Clarke Kent more than the Superman. I just can't get into the 'Boyscout' thing. Too much of a 'goody two shoes' for my taste. However I'll still see the film. I don't think I'll like it as much as Batman Begins.

[Jonah Weiland]

Screen grabs have been posted here:

http://www.comicbookresources.com/news/newsitem.cgi?id=7212

[Cayman]

I already hate Lois's kid!

Cay

[CDB]

I'd like to insert one the infamous ECW chants here:

HOLY SH*t!!!:eek: :eek: HOLY SH*T!!!:eek:

[Sheldon]

I love it when the theme kicks in.

Just awesome

[jam37wcc]

Is the kid supposed to be Lois's kid or her step kid?

[LordEd1976]

AAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't have Quicktime!!!:mad:

Thank God I least got to check out the screengrabs. But I'm stuck waiting unless I shell out money for s tupid sequel WHICH I AM MOST DEFINITELY NOT DOING!!!!!!

(expletive) (censored) (bleep) (word that would shock old ladies if they heard it) (word that used make parents wash their kids mouths out with soap.)

CURSE YOU APPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (shakes fists in air ala Doc Doom when he blames something on Richards.)

[IPW]

I like it. Thats all I had to say, but the message board said it was to short so I am writing this crappy statement

[Tom]

AAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't have Quicktime!!!:mad:

Thank God I least got to check out the screengrabs. But I'm stuck waiting unless I shell out money for s tupid sequel WHICH I AM MOST DEFINITELY NOT DOING!!!!!!

(expletive) (censored) (bleep) (word that would shock old ladies if they heard it) (word that used make parents wash their kids mouths out with soap.)

CURSE YOU APPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (shakes fists in air ala Doc Doom when he blames something on Richards.)
Calm yourself. (http://american-toku.com/srtrailer.wmv)

[Effect]

Question. Where they trying to get close to the roles Chris Reeves and Gene Hackmen played in both tone and look? Cause that's what it comes cross as to me. As if they tried to find actors and had them act similar to how the past actors did in the previous Superman movies.

I'm not sure how that sits with me. I loved the original Superman films, some more then others and I even enjoyed the Supergirl film (put in the same group since Jimmy from the Superman films is in the Supergirl film). I think it does a disserve to them and to this new film for them to simply try to copy and emulate the previous film actors and the way they acted.

They should have started from a clean slate or at least not made it so obvious what they are appearing to do. Lex seemed serious in the beginning of the trailer but by the end it was as if there was a sign saying "Look at me, I'm pretending to be Gene Hackmen as Lex Luthor".

I will say that the current Clark Kent doesn't look to bad. Just he seems a bit to small in the Superman suit. Couldn't they have increase his muscle mass in the special effects? Just a little.

[IPW]

Well, Singer has said that this movie is a direct sequal to Superman 2.

[Daniel Lewis]

Tom, thanks. You saved the day.
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One word.
Awesome.

[stealthwise]

Great trailer, I'm really glad that I don't have to see MI: III to see it. ;)

[NotSuper]

That trailer ruled. Spacey was definitely the highlight, but Routh was great as well.

[Lord Ichabod]

I was on the fence about wanting to see this movie but kevin spacey just demanded I go see it. "WRONG!" made my night. he's so cool.

[Fenix]

Very good, but I guess it lacks a bit of Greatness... it´s a bit anti-climatic towards the end.

[jhauge]

AAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't have Quicktime!!!

You can download the free Quicktime here. It's for the PC.

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/win.html

[jhauge]

Well, Singer has said that this movie is a direct sequal to Superman 2.

Actually, Singer has said it is loosely based on the first 2 movies. It's more like the James Bond movies. They all took place, but each actor has his own continuity. It follows the events of II, but within the context of the new movie.

[Adrian Tullberg]

Lookin' good.

Singer's delivered so far, let's give him the benefit of the doubt.

[Bordnlazy]

To be honest from pics i've seen before and the original trailer that came out i've been expecting to be disapointed by the movie. That said, After seeing this trailer, MY jaw dropped! The suit didn't look all that ridiculous, and Routh Looks good on screen as both supes and kent(though i would've still like a slightly more mature looking supes,lane) Spacey so far seem Fantastically Interesting.

I think i'm gonna go watch it now! I was originally going to wait til it was available on rental, but now I think it might actually be worth watching.......Especially seeing as they might be using the original themesong!!!!
Dont know why that thrills me it just does :D

[Justin D.]

I think I just wet myself.

[Murphman]

I love it when the theme kicks in.

Just awesome

absolutely! i swear to god, that song is more inspiring than the rocky music. i used to use it as the startup sound when i cranked the puter up.

[enediol]

Looked awesome! Especially that part where he's ripping the wing off the airplane! MAN! I CANT WAIT!!!!!

[LordEd1976]

Calm yourself. (http://american-toku.com/srtrailer.wmv)

Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!!!!!!!!!!

That trailer gave me a rush bigger than what I would get if I downed an entire 6-pack of soda. There is no way in HELL I am not seeing this movie opening day!

[King Krypton]

I think i'm gonna go watch it now! I was originally going to wait til it was available on rental, but now I think it might actually be worth watching.......Especially seeing as they might be using the original themesong!!!!
Dont know why that thrills me it just does :D

"Might"? They ARE using it, along with "Can You Read My Mind" (sans vocals) and the Krypton fanfare.

Don't worry, the Otis theme will be nowhere in sight.

[Kinbote]

This wasn't his first time saving a downed plane, he shoulda known the wing would tear off and just held it up by the nosecone. That was an amature mistake, and there'd better be an excuse....

I wondered about that as well, so I'm guessing it ends up being something like he knows the engine is about to explode so he decides to quickly rip it off so that it doesn't kill everyone first. In the trailer it kinda looks like he knows he's about to force the wing off. Dunno though, just guessing. *shrugs

I do know though that I'm really looking forward to seeing this and will try to be there opening day, w/o a doubt. Everything looks good so far, and it was kinda cool how they worked in the, "Look up in the sky!". :)

[dancj]

Great trailer. Routh still looks too young, but that's really the only thing I could see wrong in that trailer

[CMBMOOL]

Truly cool!!!! :D


Spacey plays a good Luthor, but I still dislike the S suit.

Who know what wonders it can make when it comes out to Theaters. :rolleyes:

[jeangreydp]

I have been so skeptical of this film.

But, that trailer was hot. For all the weird reasons.

Routh still does not look, sound, seem like Superman to me at all. So, that is a bummer.

But, Kevin Spacey- AWESOME!! OMG LEX! Jimmy and Perry felt good as well. I was ready to roll my eyes at Kate Bosworth's Lois, but I didn't. I'm not completely won over, but I didn't hate her as Lois.

The kid thing still weirds me out. If it ends up to be Supermans kid, that will be ok. I'm sure the big :eek: moment at the end will be when the kid lifts a car or something.

Oh, and the flying. WOW! The flying looked great. Its hard to make a person flying around look cool, but they've done it. So, I'm eating (almost) all my words on this one.

[Ekko]

Just watched it, I feel like a kid waiting for Christmas.

[phantom1592]

One thing that seemed kinda dumb was the plane wing part.This wasn't his first time saving a downed plane,so he should've known the wing would tear off and just held it up by the nosecone.That was an amature mistake,and there'd better be an excuse....


Did he save any other downed planes? If this is connected to the first two movies then that's all you have to go on. I naturally remember the helicopter, but I don't remember any planes.

We can't give him the experince of 60 years of comics for this movie. We can only go off of what he's shown.



All said, the only problem I see with this is young clark wearing glasses. I REALLY hope they explain that. The glasses are a disguise. Clark has at LEAST 20/20 vision. They did the same stupid thing in Lois & Clark. Clark shows up in metropolis wearing glasses, THEN decides later to become Superman. Never any explaination why he was wearing his disguise before he became a superhero.

NO GLASSES, before deciding on wearing a CAPE!

[literally exaggerated]

That looked really good. Spacey was just the right mixture of Gene Hackman and Keyser Soze.

[jhauge]

He saved Air Force One his first night as Superman.

[phantom1592]

RIGHT!!!

The whole Whole "Don't Look, Just Fly" bit.


Of course AF1 wasn't spinning and crashing as bad. I think they just lost an engine :) AND he did go for the wing in that example:D

[Adrian Tullberg]

RIGHT!!!

The whole Whole "Don't Look, Just Fly" bit.


Of course AF1 wasn't spinning and crashing as bad. I think they just lost an engine :) AND he did go for the wing in that example:D

He grabbed onto the housing where the engine had been - looked like a pretty sound structural point to grab onto -

- actually, where is the best place to grab a plane?

A possibility for ripping the wing off - isn't that where the fuel is stored?

[Hellcow]

Its not the Superman film I want to see. Guess I better become a film director.

[Rylon]

Yeah, I was hoping he's dump Lois and shack-up with Buffy. Guess, I'll have to become a producer. ;)

Seriously, I was hoping for something that wasn't a direct sequle to the Reeves franchise. But oh well. I still like the trailer. I'll see it on opening day.

[Hellcow]

Thank You! Thank You! Thank You!!!!!!!!!!



There's no need to thank anyone, they're doing it because they want your money.

[Spike-X]

I was ready to roll my eyes at Kate Bosworth's Lois, but I didn't.

She seems to be a hundred times better than Kristen "This is my angry squinty face! Look at me, I'm ACTING!!" Kreuk, that's for sure.

[SuperManny]

There's no need to thank anyone, they're doing it because they want your money.

Well, he's not thanking the studios because of an act of kindness. He's thanking them for creating a movie he really wanted to see.

And pay for, like everyone else.

[Mean Mr Mustard]

I have to say: I still don't like what I'm seeing... But GODDAMN, I might go see this movie if only for Spacey's "WRONG!".

[jeangreydp]

She seems to be a hundred times better than Kristen "This is my angry squinty face! Look at me, I'm ACTING!!" Kreuk, that's for sure.

Very true, but then the way I see it, Lana Lang is supposed to be annoying.

[Bishop_Proudstar]

I have to say: I still don't like what I'm seeing... But GODDAMN, I might go see this movie if only for Spacey's "WRONG!".

Wow. Luther is really evil compared to Hackman's..

[Bishop_Proudstar]

Superman has been gone for 7 years after the end of "Superman II"..

Didn't he vow to The U.S. President that he wasn't going anywhere? (at the end of "Superman II")

[Robin3]

I think the Luthor scenes are going to be the big draw from this.

Consider that Kevin Spacey played a completely different character in American Beauty for example. You'd think they were two different actors.

And before someone says, "Oh, well all the actors are supposed to be seem like different people," consider that there are several actors known for playing the same character in every role they take, like George Clooney.

Some people said that they were worried that he'd not be serious enough-- I don't think that this Luthor will be a Hackman clone. He seemed more like he was relishing his intelligence. In the clip, he showed that he knew what Lois would say, so he's the kind of person who's always several steps ahead of what's going on.

[SuperManny]

Superman has been gone for 7 years after the end of "Superman II"..

Didn't he vow to The U.S. President that he wasn't going anywhere? (at the end of "Superman II")

That he did! It'd be curious to see if this is followed up or slightlytouched upon in the new movie.

I'm just happy we're seeing Supes in the big screen again :D

[PatrickG]

From what I understand, this movie is following the Richard Donner cut of SUPERMAN II, which has never been released and which is radically different in places. (Some of the footage like the the Phantom Zoners getting arrested has leaked but over half of the movie is made up of alternate takes reshot by Lester after he replaced Donner.)

The "Superman II" that this movie follows up on would be Donner's cut, more than likely, which we won't even see until December.

[botch]

She seems to be a hundred times better than Kristen "This is my angry squinty face! Look at me, I'm ACTING!!" Kreuk, that's for sure.

uhh but they don't play the same characters?

[botch]

I was at parts going cool and others going bah, my superman saga is better.

For one the whole loose sequel thing is crap, this is a sequel, it follows just about everything from the Reeve movies.

things that make no sense.

Luthor finds the fortress(which in the comic is near impossible, but not a biggie), my problem is he gets in it...IT'S A FORTRESS! What the fuck. how can you just walk in there. problem was in the original movies too(the original movies were one big problem). Even smallville has changed this by keeping the crystal tech that is becoming canon in the comics(because of the new movie) but they put a security system in the fortress. You walk in and you will probably die. And then Luthor can talk, get info from the recorded stuff Jor El left.

Super kiss, what the hell, the trailer shows lois is happy to see clark, but pissed at superman, this tells me that in superman 2 lois forgets his identity and as such the super kiss worked. SUPER KISS!! WHAT THE FUCK!

Lois looks way too young and she reminds me of the twins from rugrats.

Luthor too cheesy, the best luthor is the super serious realistic luthor from smallville. He's in the vein of the realistic Ra's Al Ghul from begins.

Some of the CGI is pretty sloppy with superman. I guess only Weta have the tech to do close digital characters.

Why is Clark wearing glasses as a teen? in the original movie he left after high school and he still didn't wear glasses. and even then unless he was superboy then i guess he would use glasses.

Jimmy wearing a bow tie. shit.

I guess I just love Erica Durance as Lois, she's perfect even when she has been tweaked since she's supposed to be younger. Smallville's Luthor is incredible. I also like Tom Welling's Clark because it is Clark, rather than superman like the original movies. Reading the Up, Up and Away story arc just makes me feel like the clark from smallville will become this awesome superman. Plus he looks similar to Jim Lee's superman and he has those big Superman forearms compared to Routh's Bitchlike forearms(i aint giving him crap cos I also have bitchlike forearms).

In a way I am glad this is happening cos then i'll be able to do my revamped superman trilogy. My Superman to batman begins.

[the film freak]

Some people said that they were worried that he'd not be serious enough-- I don't think that this Luthor will be a Hackman clone. He seemed more like he was relishing his intelligence. In the clip, he showed that he knew what Lois would say, so he's the kind of person who's always several steps ahead of what's going on.

The only Hackman vibe I got from Spacey is the fact Spacey looks a little like him when they are bald. Spacey seems to be playing Luthor much darker. Which will be nice. I like Gene Hackman but I couldn't stand his Luthor.

[phantom1592]

For one the whole loose sequel thing is crap, this is a sequel, it follows just about everything from the Reeve movies.

This true. I haven't seen ANYTHING to say that this is not a direct sequel. In fact unless they introduce Lana or something, I don't see how they can ignore 3 & 4. There is nothing in those that dictate a time period.

things that make no sense.

Luthor finds the fortress(which in the comic is near impossible, but not a biggie), my problem is he gets in it...IT'S A FORTRESS! What the fuck. how can you just walk in there. problem was in the original movies too(the original movies were one big problem). Even smallville has changed this by keeping the crystal tech that is becoming canon in the comics(because of the new movie) but they put a security system in the fortress. You walk in and you will probably die. And then Luthor can talk, get info from the recorded stuff Jor El left.

In the movies they never made a big deal about fortress walls. For that matter I dont' think they ever even called it a fortress. Us comic fans just "knew" what it was :)

Luthor had already found it in the Earlier movies. AND he was able to use the crystals to get information from them. Like you said this is a sequel.


Super kiss, what the hell, the trailer shows lois is happy to see clark, but pissed at superman, this tells me that in superman 2 lois forgets his identity and as such the super kiss worked. SUPER KISS!! WHAT THE FUCK!

What made you think it didn't work? While stupid, it was necessary. I like the world when Lois does NOT know Clarks secret.

Lois looks way too young and she reminds me of the twins from rugrats.

I agree she looks young. I'm curious just how long he's suposed to have been "gone" because she looks too young to have done all the previous movies AND have a 6 year old kid... and still look in her 20's

Luthor too cheesy, the best luthor is the super serious realistic luthor from smallville. He's in the vein of the realistic Ra's Al Ghul from begins.

I love the luthor in Smallville. I hope they try to work some of him in. Still it's a sequel and Hackman's Luthor was a different character. For starters he's a famous criminal mastermind, not a shady businessman.


Some of the CGI is pretty sloppy with superman. I guess only Weta have the tech to do close digital characters.

That's not really fair yet. Trailers are often released before the CGI is 100% finished in Post production. Wait till you see the actual movie before slamming the SFX ;)

Why is Clark wearing glasses as a teen? in the original movie he left after high school and he still didn't wear glasses. and even then unless he was superboy then i guess he would use glasses.

THAT is my biggest concern. Is there a superboy? what is using the "disguise" for before the costume?!?

Jimmy wearing a bow tie. shit.

Don't really have an opinion of that one way or the other.

I guess I just love Erica Durance as Lois, she's perfect even when she has been tweaked since she's supposed to be younger. Smallville's Luthor is incredible. I also like Tom Welling's Clark because it is Clark, rather than superman like the original movies. Reading the Up, Up and Away story arc just makes me feel like the clark from smallville will become this awesome superman. Plus he looks similar to Jim Lee's superman and he has those big Superman forearms compared to Routh's Bitchlike forearms(i aint giving him crap cos I also have bitchlike forearms).


I like the cast of Smallville too. I did NOT want them in the movie though. At least not till Smallville is cancelled. I do not want to go back and watch season 8 and see a SuperBOY who looks older then the 2006 SuperMAN. If they had waited a few more years than he would have made a good Superman.

[CDB]

Luthor too cheesy, the best luthor is the super serious realistic luthor from smallville.


...you're joking right!:(

Not knock Roseburg the only thing from Smallville, I'll respect. But the best Luthor???

Bullsh*t. The title belongs to Timmverse Luthor!!!

[King Krypton]

I like the cast of Smallville too. I did NOT want them in the movie though. At least not till Smallville is cancelled. I do not want to go back and watch season 8 and see a SuperBOY who looks older then the 2006 SuperMAN. If they had waited a few more years than he would have made a good Superman.

They could have waited until Armageddon for all the good it would have done. Welling doesn't want to be Superman.

Besides, the "Clark" on Smallville is such a petty, selfish character that there's no possible way he could ever become the classic Superman.

[Rylon]

You're both wrong, it's the Lois & Clark Luthor.

Sheesh, do I have to explain everything! ;)

[NotSuper]

...you're joking right!:(

Not knock Roseburg the only thing from Smallville, I'll respect. But the best Luthor???

Bullsh*t. The title belongs to Timmverse Luthor!!!
I like the Timmverse Luthor, too (not sure if he's my favorite, but he's definitely up there). As for Rosenbaum's Luthor, he's the best part of the show, but sometimes he's not written as being very smart.

For example: "Clark, you've been hypnotized! How else could you have thrown me across the room?" :rolleyes:

Anyway, I think turning Smallville into a movie would be a bad idea. Maybe two or three years ago, but not now. Singer and co. made the right move in making this a sequel, IMO.

[LordEd1976]

Well, he's not thanking the studios because of an act of kindness. He's thanking them for creating a movie he really wanted to see.

And pay for, like everyone else.

You're both wrong.

i was thanking Tom for posting a link that lead me to a version of the trailer that would play on my computer despite my lack of Quicktime.

Once I see the movie, if it turns out to be good, then I will be piling on thanks and praise to Bryan Singer for his work. As it is, I'm thanking Kevin Spacey early because I am loving his Luthor.

[theflyingfrogunderdog]

Not trying to be a sourpuss because the trailer was impressively done, but here's what i think is fundamentally wrong with this movie:

Lex Luthor already appeared in the previous Superman movies. This is overkill.

I got the impression that i was seeing Hackman and Reeve all over again. I don't think emulation of the original actors is a good thing. A hypothetical example would be if Christian Bale had immitated Michael Keaton in Batman Begins. Keaton was the best Batman, of course. :cool:

Superman's costume is burgundy brown and ugly. No way around it. :(

Routh looks like he should be in Supermn Begins. Way too young looking to pass as a Clark Kent who's been away for years. :rolleyes:

Updating the Superman mythos creates a question. Yes, i know there's alot of single/divorced mothers out there, but does Lois Lane have to be one? Unless this is a Superboy who was conceived in Superman 2, i think this could be an unnecessary bit of updating.

Lois Lane says: "The world doesn't need a savior and neither do i"

Subliminal message? The narration at the end of X-Men 2 promoted evolution. Coincidence or agenda? ;)

[Rylon]

Lex Luthor already appeared in the previous Superman movies. This is overkill.Well, he is the iconic Superman villian. I don't think a movie with another Superman villian would work. I mean, who wants to see Superman fight the Parasite on the big screen. Doomsday might work, but for whatever reason the various Doomsday projects didn't materialize. Batman has the rogues gallery for a new villian every movie. Superman, not so much.

Updating the Superman mythos creates a question. Yes, i know there's alot of single/divorced mothers out there, but does Lois Lane have to be one?I don't think it's updating, just story advancement. What I like about what I've seen, is that we're not seeing the same thing over and over again. Sometimes, the various Superman shows and movies feel like Dick and Jane books:

See Superman fly.
See Superman fight Luthor.
See Superman succumb to Kryptonite.
See Superman fight Luthor.
See Clark fight a metor rock powered villian. (Sorry, I had to through in a Smallville refrence.)
See Superman fight Luthor again.
Fight Superman. Fight.

Subliminal message? The narration at the end of X-Men 2 promoted evolution. Coincidence or agenda? ;)Well, the vary premise of X-Men needs evolution to work, it's not like it was brough in new just for the movie.

It's the same with Lois. Superman saves Lois (See Superman save Lois. Save Superman. Save.). It makes sense that, if she was hurt, she'd say something like that.

[phantom1592]

They could have waited until Armageddon for all the good it would have done. Welling doesn't want to be Superman.

Besides, the "Clark" on Smallville is such a petty, selfish character that there's no possible way he could ever become the classic Superman.

I would question anyone who would say that they didn't want to be superman. Did he by chance say that when the show was just starting, and they were big into the "No tights, No Flights" We're not a comic book, and ordinary people will like our show too phase? If so than it doesn't apply anymore.

For what actor's make in shows like that, I have a hard time seeing TW turn down the role ;)



personally I don't find "clark" to be petty and selfish. I haven't seen anything in season 5 yet, but I got the 1-4 on DVD. He strikes me as a believable kid with Superpowers.

In season 4 he had started to look more like an adult, and when he was wearing the red jacket with the Solid blue shirt.... I could "almost" see him as Superman.

[phantom1592]

Not trying to be a sourpuss because the trailer was impressively done, but here's what i think is fundamentally wrong with this movie:

Lex Luthor already appeared in the previous Superman movies. This is overkill.

Well there is a fine line between sequel and remakes... This may tie into older movies with Luthor in them for Reference... But it is still a new Franchise. These are the guys we'll be seeing for a while. As such when restarting like this you have to go with the best villian. And that's Luthor. The rest of Superman's rogues really do suck.

They may be able to do something later with someone else, but you have to start with Lex.

Still Shocked they were able to get away without Joker in Batman Begins....


Superman's costume is burgundy brown and ugly. No way around it. :(

You are correct on that. Also they don't have the yellow S on the back. Seriously lazy. Really annoys me every time I see them drop that. One of the reasons I have a hard time with the Timmverse Superman.

And their luthor sounds like the Kurgan to me ;)

Routh looks like he should be in Supermn Begins. Way too young looking to pass as a Clark Kent who's been away for years. :rolleyes:

True, but i can believe it on him, more than I can on Lois.


Updating the Superman mythos creates a question. Yes, i know there's alot of single/divorced mothers out there, but does Lois Lane have to be one? Unless this is a Superboy who was conceived in Superman 2, i think this could be an unnecessary bit of updating.

Agreed. I don't think this is going to "help" anything, and will only hurt.

Lois Lane says: "The world doesn't need a savior and neither do i"

Subliminal message? The narration at the end of X-Men 2 promoted evolution. Coincidence or agenda? ;)

X-men is kind of necessary, and they've mentioned it a few times in previous X-movies. As for Lois, I think she's going to be proven wrong ;)

[Rylon]

I would question anyone who would say that they didn't want to be superman.I wouldn't. Sometimes, actors don't want to play a certain part. It's not that uncommon.

[Hellcow]

At this point I'm guessing we're going to see a very conservative, conventional and uncreative take on Superman as a character.

[algertman]

Far better than that Wolverine vs. Headlights X-3 trailer

[Canadian]

My wife watches One Life to Live (and yes....occasionally I watch it with her) and I remember Brandon Routh on it. I was not too impressed with him. So, I was VERY sceptical about him being Superman (I still wish they could have had Tom Welling). The trailer helped me be less sceptical. But....I'll wait to see the actual movie before I pass any final judgements.

[NotSuper]

personally I don't find "clark" to be petty and selfish. I haven't seen anything in season 5 yet, but I got the 1-4 on DVD. He strikes me as a believable kid with Superpowers.
I thought he was believable in seasons 1-3, but not from 4 onward (this may change, though). He became far too emo and obsessed with Lana. Worst of all, he never told her off and instead let her walk all over him. I could understand Clark letting someone walk all over him if he was disguised as a mild-mannered reporter, but he's not. I wouldn't say Clark is selfish, but I don't think he currently possesses the attributes necessary to be Superman. A lack of self-confidence works great for Spider-Man, but not for Superman.

In season 4 he had started to look more like an adult, and when he was wearing the red jacket with the Solid blue shirt.... I could "almost" see him as Superman.
See, season four is where I think the major problems with the character--and the show itself--occured. I have nothing bad to say about Tom Welling as an actor or a person, it's just that I don't think he's right for the part of Superman. Again, no disrespect intended to Welling or to the people that think he should be Superman. I think Singer made the right choice with Routh. He (Singer) has earned my trust in matters such as these. And I did like the scenes we saw Routh in during the trailer.

[phantom1592]

I thought he was believable in seasons 1-3, but not from 4 onward (this may change, though). He became far too emo and obsessed with Lana. Worst of all, he never told her off and instead let her walk all over him. I could understand Clark letting someone walk all over him if he was disguised as a mild-mannered reporter, but he's not. I wouldn't say Clark is selfish, but I don't think he currently possesses the attributes necessary to be Superman. A lack of self-confidence works great for Spider-Man, but not for Superman.




Ok, I admit that season four was the weakest season yet. ( I haven't seen any of season 5 yet. our stations don't carry it :( )

I haven't been able to put my finger on what was wrong yet....

[NotSuper]

Ok, I admit that season four was the weakest season yet. ( I haven't seen any of season 5 yet. our stations don't carry it :( )

I haven't been able to put my finger on what was wrong yet....
I think season four was weak because of a number of connected factors. But, if you want to reduce things, they just had characters and storylines that few people wanted to see. The worst was probably the witch storyline with Lana and her whole saga with Jason. Lana's boyfriends either dying or turning evil (or both) has become a cliche for the show. Ditto for Clark throwing villains thirty feet across a room--he can't solve all his problems by throwing them. The finale was good, though.

Still, I did enjoy the first three seasons and some parts of five (particularly when they involve Brainiac) have been good. Although, Brainiac isn't presented as being too smart either.

For example: "The human brain is the greatest computer, yet we only use 10% of it." Yeah, that's very wrong. You'd think a super-computer from an advanced planet would know better. ;)

[CBright]

If I do go see this movie, it will be because of Kevin Spacey, and Kevin Spacey alone.

I keep replaying the beginning where everything goes quiet and then Spacey says in a cold voice to Jor-El, "Tell me everything!".

[trickster]

AAAARRRRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't have Quicktime!!!:mad:



Screw Apple. You don't need qt. Search on Google for "quicktime alternative". It also lets you save the movies, something that Apple tries to get you to pay money for.

[Hellcow]

My wife watches One Life to Live (and yes....occasionally I watch it with her) and I remember Brandon Routh on it. I was not too impressed with him. So, I was VERY sceptical about him being Superman (I still wish they could have had Tom Welling). The trailer helped me be less sceptical. But....I'll wait to see the actual movie before I pass any final judgements.

In the trailer, we don't really SEE Brandon Routh talking much, we mostly hear his voice, and we don't see any clips of him testing his acting abilities, so I guess its still a big unknown as to how he will come across in the film.

I still think he looks silly in his Superman suit. I don't think he pulls it off (ie looking like a superman). He'd do well as a male underwear model, which I'm guessing is the main reason he was cast in the first place.

[VietN]

I'm hoping any Superman movie has as little to do with Smallville as possible. Its one of those shows that makes me cringe everytime I watch it. It's a comic meets daytime soap.
---

I understand that this movie is loosely based on Superman 2. So I think most of our questions will have to be put on hold until we see it.

[dancj]

You're both wrong, it's the Lois & Clark Luthor.

Sheesh, do I have to explain everything! ;)

No no no!!! Lois and Clark didn't have the best anything let alone the best Luthor.

Dan

[west3man]

The Superman Returns trailer will debut this May 5th weekend along with the Mission Impossible III movie. This 2:35 minute preview will definitely outshow the previous teaser that can be currently seen online.

Apparently, for the Apple and Quicktime users, the trailer is up and running at:
http://www.apple.com/trailers

Did you get a chance to see the new and exciting trailer? Does it live up to your expectations of the new Superman movie? Did it change your mind about going to see it?

Discuss! :D
I saw the trailer. It still makes me think that the movie will fall short of the glory, but Singer IS good at what he does.

Also, I'm thankful for any scene that doesn't highlight the Super-seam in his longjohns.

[thehod]

The Superman Returns trailer will debut this May 5th weekend along with the Mission Impossible III movie. This 2:35 minute preview will definitely outshow the previous teaser that can be currently seen online.

Man, this is gonna be good.




Well, someone had to say it.

[phantom1592]

No no no!!! Lois and Clark didn't have the best anything let alone the best Luthor.

Dan

Agreed. Any Luthor that has hair is NOT the best Luthor ;) geesh! give a guy ONE distinguishing mark and people STILL seem to screw it up.






Same goes for Hackman.

[fireball87o]

the film looks great! :D

[trickster]

I have a bad feeling about this. Or at least I don't like Luthor's portrayal. For those who have seen H Potter and the goblet of fire, I would have liked Luthor to act more like Lucius Malfoy when he says "do enjoy yourselves... while you can" with a "just you wait" look and in a calm, threatening tone of voice. Seems to me they're rehashing Hackman's style. Luthor's "wrong!" reminded me of the yelling character from the 2 stupid dogs cartoon whose typical line was "well ain't that cute... but it's WROONG!" You'd think that they would have caught on to the fact that just because they're called "comic" books, we're not supposed to make comedy movies out of them. Cos, you know, Batman & Robin was such a masterpiece... Although it made a lot of money in its time.:mad:

[Kilgore Trout]

I have a bad feeling about this.

Uh yeah, the first trailer was... Underwhelming.

The 2nd one was much better but when I showed it to my girlfriend (who is completely uninvolved with comics and the minutiae involved therein) she burst out laughing at the sight of Brandon Routh in the Blue and Red suit and said between gasps for air:

"What's up with that suit, is Superman gay now?" :eek:

Granted we haven’t seen the film yet but that’s the LAST thing I expected her to say…

[Eliseu Gouveia]

"What's up with that suit, is Superman gay now?" :eek:


Time and time again I´ve said it: this uniform is horrid!

The surfer shirt neckline, the redundant S on the belt, the low speedos, the low boots, the tiny "S", the absence of the yellow "S" in the back, the colors....

Superman´s uniform is like a flag, dashing and inspiring.

It shouldn´t have its colors muted, how would you feel if someone came along and changed the bright red in the ole stars´n´stripes into........... bordeaux?

[NotSuper]

No no no!!! Lois and Clark didn't have the best anything let alone the best Luthor.
This is true.

[theflyingfrogunderdog]

Time and time again I´ve said it: this uniform is horrid!

The surfer shirt neckline, the redundant S on the belt, the low speedos, the low boots, the tiny "S", the absence of the yellow "S" in the back, the colors....

Superman´s uniform is like a flag, dashing and inspiring.

It shouldn´t have its colors muted, how would you feel if someone came along and changed the bright red in the ole stars´n´stripes into........... bordeaux?

This is what i've thought for some time. It seems that the director doesn't realize that Superman is an American icon in the same way baseball and apple pie is and therefore Superman should be in a blue and red costume. Just look at Golden Age Superman covers featuring a blue and red Superman with an American eagle or flag and it's obvious, not to mention the famous phrase "Truth, justice and the American way!"

[Hellcow]

This is what i've thought for some time. It seems that the director doesn't realize that Superman is an American icon in the same way baseball and apple pie is and therefore Superman should be in a blue and red costume. Just look at Golden Age Superman covers featuring a blue and red Superman with an American eagle or flag and it's obvious, not to mention the famous phrase "Truth, justice and the American way!"

I don't like the colour change, but that's not the main problem with the outfit. The design is outdated, it may have worked 50 years ago. But put it on a real person today and its hard not to laugh.

[King Krypton]

Superman's costume is burgundy brown and ugly. No way around it.

Burgundy is a shade of red, not brown. And Superman HAS worn it before in other incarnations (Fleischer, extended periods of the post-Crisis comics). Anybody who says it's not proper for Superman needs to study the history and reevaulate their claims.

And if you think the suit is "ugly," I'd hate to see your reactions to the Fleischer costume, the original Joe Shuster artwork, HJ Ward and pre-Crisis E-2 (the S-buckle), Kirk Alyn, and George Reeves, all of whom the suit takes it cues from. Oh, and it's got some Lee Bermejo in it, too (raised emblem, visible seams as costume detailing, pimped-out boots). If anything, Routh's Superman is retro in his look.

I don't like the colour change, but that's not the main problem with the outfit. The design is outdated, it may have worked 50 years ago. But put it on a real person today and its hard not to laugh.

That Jon Peters and Tim Burton talking.

[phantom1592]

Burgundy is a shade of red, not brown.



I would say Burgandy is a combination of Red and Brown. Brown in itself is a combo of Red and Green. (one of the reasons many color blind people have a miserable time with the color Brown.)

I would accept calling Burgandy RED or Brown. Kind of a Reddish Brown ;)

[Hellcow]

Burgundy is a shade of red, not brown. And Superman HAS worn it before in other incarnations (Fleischer, extended periods of the post-Crisis comics). Anybody who says it's not proper for Superman needs to study the history and reevaulate their claims.

And if you think the suit is "ugly," I'd hate to see your reactions to the Fleischer costume, the original Joe Shuster artwork, HJ Ward and pre-Crisis E-2 (the S-buckle), Kirk Alyn, and George Reeves, all of whom the suit takes it cues from. Oh, and it's got some Lee Bermejo in it, too (raised emblem, visible seams as costume detailing, pimped-out boots). If anything, Routh's Superman is retro in his look.



That Jon Peters and Tim Burton talking.

Actually its most people who aren't comic nerds talking.

I'm a bit of a comic nerd so I can live with it, a lot of kids could live with it, but I guess we'll find out soon enough how many adults can live with it.

[NotSuper]

That Jon Peters and Tim Burton talking.
Thank God they're off the project. I still cringe when I think of their design--it was like a cross between Bizarro, Edward Scissorhands, and Frankenstein's Monster.

Anyway, I have no problems with the suit. Frankly, there'll always be controversy surrounding Superman's costume because some (not me) think it's outdated. I happen to think it still works. There's a certain timeless quality to it. And, as King Krypton pointed out, this suit isn't anything new--the elements for it have been around a while.

[Rylon]

how would you feel if someone came along and changed the bright red in the ole stars´n´stripes into........... bordeaux?I wouldn't care. Of course, I know somthings about the history of the US flag. Not only were there several diffrent flag during the revolution and after, but at one time Congress hadn't even legislated the arrangment of the stars and stripes in relation to each other. :eek:

Also, it's just a flag. I find it sad that some people get more worked-up over our flag than our rights. The costume for a fictional character copyrighted by a major media conglomerate dosen't even rate as high as the US flag in my book. I mean, if Superman were really an american icon like apple pie and the stars and stipes, then he wouldn't be ownd by a corperation.

Don't get me wrong, I love Superman, but I'm just not going to get worked-up about a costume change.

[SuperManny]

Thank God they're off the project. I still cringe when I think of their design--it was like a cross between Bizarro, Edward Scissorhands, and Frankenstein's Monster.

Jon Peters is still a producer of this movie.

At least it wasn't Burton. :)

[theflyingfrogunderdog]

Burgundy is a shade of red, not brown. And Superman HAS worn it before in other incarnations (Fleischer, extended periods of the post-Crisis comics). Anybody who says it's not proper for Superman needs to study the history and reevaulate their claims.

Following your logic based on Superman comics history, i guess you'll feel the same way if Superman is in the electric blue costume in Superman Returns 2? :D
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/83756635410.123.GIF

[NotSuper]

Jon Peters is still a producer of this movie.

At least it wasn't Burton. :)
One out of two isn't bad. At least there won't be any gay robot sidekicks or evil polar bears.

[Rylon]

Following your logic based on Superman comics history, i guess you'll feel the same way if Superman is in the electric blue costume in Superman Returns 2? :D Well, I can't speak for King Krypton, but I wouldn't mind that kind of alteration. A movie about Electric Superman would be fun. Hell, they even published a letter of mine defending the desision durring the story's run.

[Chip Whitley]

I'm sold after seeing Kevin Spacey as Luthor.

[SicHed]

no bird! that's a very bad bird!

[Sean Walsh]

Did I just hear Lex say "Bring it on!" ?!

Oh dear......

[Mike Smith]

One out of two isn't bad. At least there won't be any gay robot sidekicks or evil polar bears.

Aww does that mean no giant spider in the third act? You know it's fiercest insect (arachnid, but whatever Peters).

As for the suit it gives a feel of George Reeves Supes. From a pose it seems it fits the body similarly. As for the cape we'll see, it's a little less bright than I would like (I think Peters likely had something to do with toning down the brightness and primaries).

I'm still not a fan of the "S" but want to wait it out, as I even had my concern about Routh until seeing this recent trailer. He looked the part in both Clark and Supes. Hopefully Lex won't be as...corny...as in the prior Superman movies and show a darker/serious side (which I think it will be).

Overall I'm pumped and can't wait. Good trailer.

[Patman]

Look! It's the SuperElongatedMan (http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/708/708946p1.html)!!! (scroll down on that link to see the official movie poster).

[Hellcow]

Did I just hear Lex say "Bring it on!" ?!

Oh dear......

Wow, they've reduced Spacey from being a brilliant, subtle actor, to a 2 dimensional cardboard cut out villian with crappy pop culture dialogue.

WRONG!!!!!!!!

[Rylon]

Wow, they've reduced Spacey from being a brilliant, subtle actor, to a 2 dimensional cardboard cut out villian with crappy pop culture dialogue.

WRONG!!!!!!!!Right, because no one of any intelligence would say crappy pop culture dialogue.

[Hellcow]

Right, because no one of any intelligence would say crappy pop culture dialogue.

No, that's not why. Its because you get taken out of the movie when you know its the first thing that came into the writers mind and they went with it.

So many lazy writers in film and TV and it shows. And its not just in film and tv. Look at a lot of news headlines, they're usually a bad pun now. A play on words. And the writers and editors are saying "look how clever I am", but its not that clever, a lot of the time its cringe worthy.

If you let Spacey have more control on how the character is played, you'd end up with a very interesting Lex.

[Ontir]

Thank God they're off the project. I still cringe when I think of their design--it was like a cross between Bizarro, Edward Scissorhands, and Frankenstein's Monster.

Anyway, I have no problems with the suit. Frankly, there'll always be controversy surrounding Superman's costume because some (not me) think it's outdated. I happen to think it still works. There's a certain timeless quality to it. And, as King Krypton pointed out, this suit isn't anything new--the elements for it have been around a while.

Actually, the reason Burton didn't make the film, is because he didn't like the script. He wanted something "less flashy." When they couldn't come up with a script that he, Peters, Cage, and the studio were happy with, it all fell apart.

I've not seen it, but a friend told me that Peters, having seen a cut of the movie, now says that he realizes he was wrong, and that this is the type of movie he should have been trying to make.

[Adrian Tullberg]

Actually, the reason Burton didn't make the film, is because he didn't like the script. He wanted something "less flashy." When they couldn't come up with a script that he, Peters, Cage, and the studio were happy with, it all fell apart.

I've not seen it, but a friend told me that Peters, having seen a cut of the movie, now says that he realizes he was wrong, and that this is the type of movie he should have been trying to make.

Hmm.

It took the final cut of a movie that possibly cost $100 million plus to produce, not to mention distribution and marketing, to make a highly paid Hollywood producer to see what god knows how many people who could read a newspaper or log onto the internet, could quite clearly work out for themselves.

I think I should be a Hollywood producer, but I'd probably be overqualified.

[dancj]

I've not seen it, but a friend told me that Peters, having seen a cut of the movie, now says that he realizes he was wrong, and that this is the type of movie he should have been trying to make.

Of course he would say that whether he believed it or not because not saying so could damage the returns from his investment

[sugmasterflex]

I wasn't 100% sold on Routh as Superman until I saw the last part of this clip:

http://raincloud.warnerbros.com/wbmovies/supermanreturns/tvspots/tvspot2_300.mov


That was awesome!

[NotSuper]

I wasn't 100% sold on Routh as Superman until I saw the last part of this clip:

http://raincloud.warnerbros.com/wbmovies/supermanreturns/tvspots/tvspot2_300.mov


That was awesome!
Cool clip. The more I see Routh as Superman the more I like him.

And what about the scene of Clark looking at the Daily Planet staff, realizing that he can never truly be like them? That's great stuff.

[theflyingfrogunderdog]

I wasn't 100% sold on Routh as Superman until I saw the last part of this clip:

http://raincloud.warnerbros.com/wbmovies/supermanreturns/tvspots/tvspot2_300.mov


That was awesome!

I noticed the S symbol is usually being used for the movie logo, but in that trailer, i see a plain
SUPERMAN
RETURNS
was used and not the classic Superman logo. No biggie, but i noticed it.

[amorn]

Anyone saw the 2nd TRAILER yet? i saw it w/ da vinci code in london. it's #@$ badass SPOILER:


A bullet shot from point blank bounced off his eyeball! that's right eyeball!


OMFG!

[Patman]

Here's a link to the second theatrical trailer (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/wbol/uk/movies/supermanreturns/superman_returns_tlrf3_qt_500.mov).

[Ontir]

I'm more and more excited about this film. I checked to see if I could get tickets for the 12:01am screening, but they're not selling them yet - Dammit!

[VietN]

http://www.ropeofsilicon.com/trailers.php?id=1236 has a few links to clips you can watch as well.

[Alan2099]

The only thing I really see wrong with it is that it looks a tad too dark. There's too much set at night and Superman's wearing a dull costume. Superman tends to work best in the bright light.

Then again, if they're trying to go for a more pessimistic view, saying that things have gotten bad since Superman left, I guess it works.

[SuperManny]

The only thing I really see wrong with it is that it looks a tad too dark. There's too much set at night and Superman's wearing a dull costume. Superman tends to work best in the bright light.


I agree with you. I keep wishing Superman's costume colors were brighter, just to serve in contrast with the dark feel there is to the movie (a sign of hope).

Here is a link to another collection of trailers and yes, TV spots!:
http://www.comingsoon.net/films.php?id=4666

*needs to pre-order these tickets* :D

[SuperManny]

I noticed the S symbol is usually being used for the movie logo, but in that trailer, i see a plain
SUPERMAN
RETURNS
was used and not the classic Superman logo. No biggie, but i noticed it.

Well, it's a marketing ploy to attact the non-comic book fans. They did it with Batman Begins, and the idea is so the comic-looking title won't be a turn off for other action movie-loving watchers.

Can't wait to see it! :D

[King Krypton]

*Sigh*

Well, I saw the trailer. And I would officially like to apologize to all the naysayers.

YOU WERE RIGHT. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU.

Brandon Routh can't act worth a nickel. It's like Dean Cain all over again.

Kate Bosworth is a disgrace.

Kevin Spacey sounds like he's sucking on helium. There's no menace in him at all.

The bullet to eye scene sounded good on paper, but in practice...it looks ridiculous. The Matrix-style slo-mo ruins the sequence completely.

Nothing about the footage is even remotely exciting or appealing.

I am eating so much crow right now it's ridiculous. I was hoping so badly that this would walk all over the atrocity of Smallville...and in truth, it's practically a companion piece to it. I made a fool of myself trying to defend it, and I sincerely apologize. I was wrong. The movie looks awful, and I won't be seeing it. I'm embarrassed to think I was a supporter for this thing.

Oh, well, it's not the first time Hollywood's flushed Superman down the toilet, and it won't be the last.

[Barkeep]

I seen the trailer .. I liked it.. I will be seeing the movie..

[NotSuper]

I can't get enough of the bullet bouncing off Superman's eye--that's unbearably cool (this should've been done in the comics). I haven't been this excited to see a super-hero movie in quite some time. The only downside is that we have to wait until June 30th.

[Aetherus]

It looks pretty good to me. I had serious doubts when the costume was first revealed, but the trailers have renewed my interest. If they continue to use the Williams score for this film (Gosh, I miss that theme!), WB has one guaranteed seat purchased for this film! :)

[Alan2099]

I've got to completley disagree with you, King Krypton. At the very least, this doesn't look nearly as bad as Smallville. (No Homoerotic Lex Luthor for one.)

[the film freak]

(No Homoerotic Lex Luthor for one.)

Are you kidding me? Parker is just his beard. Lex obviously still has a hard on for Supes.

[DJ Sloofus]

I've got a free advanced screening at the Atlantic City IMAX on June 27th, so I'll check it out even if it does look like it's going to suck. I haven't seen any previews yet, so I'm really going in with open expectations.

Plus, 3-D movies are always great. Even if it is only 20 minutes; who cares!

[dancj]

Plus, 3-D movies are always great. Even if it is only 20 minutes; who cares!

What are you talking about? I thought Superman Returns was a full length 2d film?

Dan

[theflyingfrogunderdog]

Oh, well, it's not the first time Hollywood's flushed Superman down the toilet, and it won't be the last.

So far, they've given us X-Men in gay bar attire, Spider-Man with organic web shooters and creepy spider-hair fingers, a Hulk that grows three stories tall and runs like the Flash, an Elektra that has the agility of a sack of potatoes, and a screaming mad nutjob in Batman Begins. :rolleyes:

I hear the flush coming...

[thehod]

So far, they've given us X-Men in gay bar attire, Spider-Man with organic web shooters and creepy spider-hair fingers, a Hulk that grows three stories tall and runs like the Flash, an Elektra that has the agility of a sack of potatoes, and a screaming mad nutjob in Batman Begins. :rolleyes:

I hear the flush coming...

Or you could have had no comic book movies at all.

Your choice.

[King Krypton]

So far, they've given us X-Men in gay bar attire, Spider-Man with organic web shooters and creepy spider-hair fingers, a Hulk that grows three stories tall and runs like the Flash, an Elektra that has the agility of a sack of potatoes, and a screaming mad nutjob in Batman Begins. :rolleyes:

I hear the flush coming...

I think they should just stop making comic book movies. The odds of screwing them up are too great, and the few movies that are good just get skinned alive by fanboys who can't cope with anything that varies in the slightest from their pet incarnations. So really, what's the point? Let the comic books STAY comic books and keep them away from Hollywood. They're not meant to be translated into live-action or animation. Just leave them be and do something else.

[Yoda]

I think they should just stop making comic book movies. The odds of screwing them up are too great, and the few movies that are good just get skinned alive by fanboys who can't cope with anything that varies in the slightest from their pet incarnations. So really, what's the point? Let the comic books STAY comic books and keep them away from Hollywood. They're not meant to be translated into live-action or animation. Just leave them be and do something else.

I think the point is that the movies make buckets and buckets of cash for the comic companies. And a "screwed up" comic book movie like the Spider-Man and X-men franchises are still considered great by the majority of fans and the general public.

[dupersuper]

Including me. You're never gonna please every one, but if you don't take all the differences and new approaches as personal affronts (and don't take yourself too seriously), then, with Superman Returns, Xmen3, Spiderman 3, and Batman Begins 2 coming out or in the works; everything from wonder woman to green hornet being talked about, Smallville and the recently completed Justice League and Teen Titans on tv, a new Superman adventures dvd movie, new Superman Returns, X3, and Justice League video games...I'M enjoying being a comics fan! And that's before you even factor in my comics...

[NotSuper]

Including me. You're never gonna please every one, but if you don't take all the differences and new approaches as personal affronts (and don't take yourself too seriously), then, with Superman Returns, Xmen3, Spiderman 3, and Batman Begins 2 coming out or in the works; everything from wonder woman to green hornet being talked about, Smallville and the recently completed Justice League and Teen Titans on tv, a new Superman adventures dvd movie, new Superman Returns, X3, and Justice League video games...I'M enjoying being a comics fan! And that's before you even factor in my comics...
Well said and you brought up an important point: You can't please everyone. No matter how great a movie is (ANY movie) there will always be a few people that will hate it and will want other people to feel the same way that they do (this last part is a rather creepy fact). The only thing a director can do is try to please most people as it is impossible to please them all. This movie hasn't yet proven itself as great (though from what I've seen I think it could be) but the changes some people complain about seem extremely trivial to me. Bryan Singer didn't listen to the trivial criticism of X-Men (mind you, this was BEFORE it came out) and ended up creating a good movie. Then he created a great movie in X-2. He knows the right way to do things: he listens to fans and interacts with them, but he doesn't give a damn about fanboy rage.

That's all I'm going to say about that.

[VietN]

What I'm seeing here is less of a case of "not pleasing everybody" as it is "some people not being pleased with anything".

[Deskad]

I like superhero movies... geez guy, some people poop on everything.

If not enjoying weirdly dressed guys beating the crap out of people is what this world has come to, then humanity has failed.

[Hellcow]

There's usually a distinct rise in comic sales around the time of a movie launch, so even if you think the movies suck (which a lot do) at least it gets more people reading comics. That's a good thing... right?

[dancj]

I think they should just stop making comic book movies. The odds of screwing them up are too great, and the few movies that are good just get skinned alive by fanboys who can't cope with anything that varies in the slightest from their pet incarnations.

Nuts to that. The X-Men films are decent enough, the Spider-Man films are great and even Hulk and Daredevil are enjoyable (though flawed). Why deprive people of these films because of a few whining fanboys.

Dan

[sugmasterflex]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIfUt5fMGoE'

Best. Trailer. Yet.

[NotSuper]

Nuts to that. The X-Men films are decent enough, the Spider-Man films are great and even Hulk and Daredevil are enjoyable (though flawed). Why deprive people of these films because of a few whining fanboys.
Agreed. If fanboys want to complain about costumes and young actors they can, but to say that super-hero movies should stop being made for their own benefit is just plain crazy (not to mention egocentric). Super-hero movies bring in lots of money which is something the declining film industry needs right now. In addition, I'd be fine suffering through a few sub-par super-heroes movies if we get even one great one. And, with Superman Returns, I think we will get that great movie.

[NotSuper]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIfUt5fMGoE'

Best. Trailer. Yet.
I love that trailer. Singer has really done his homework on Luthor, even keeping his obsession with land from the movies. Plus, Luthor's plan harkens back to the days of global based threats rather than just city or national ones.

[SuperManny]

The new Superman Returns trailer they're showing before X-Men 3, in slightly better quality:
http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/supermanreturns.html

Enjoy! :D

[VietN]

People should be allowed to have high expectations for a movie. It's amazing how much crap is popularized.

When there's a real effort to grasp the essence of a great thing then I'm satisified. Put the politics and special interests aside. Thats all I can basically ask for as someone who wants to be wowed.
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If they make a great movie then the $$$ will come. Studios can be so chicken :(