My ideal Jokers for Batman Begins 2.

[Corky]

Know who here of my choices would make a good Joker?

Robert Englund.
Terrence Mann. ( Broadway actor and cult TV/movie star who played in the broadway show of "Beauty and The Beast", is a guess on "Law and Order" and played the rock-and-roll singer bounty hunter from "Critters 1 & 2")
David Bowie.
Stephen Dorff.
Owen Wilson.
Christian Slater.
Michael Ironside.

[Nick Kal]

I'd say no to every single one of them.

[foxfire]

Owen Wilson.
Christian Slater.


Uhhhh.....

[stillanerd]

What? Kevin Bacon isn't on the list? :D

[Murrocko]

David Bowie made me laugh.

[Young Avenger]

I want to see Alan Cumming as the Joker.

[Damo]

Joe Bays (the boss from Office Space). "Uh, I'm gonna also need you to die." Slurps on coffee, shoots man. "Yeah..."

[The Blue Devil]

Ya know who should be the Joker?

Mark Hamil.

[infoghost]

Know who here of my choices would make a good Joker?

Robert Englund.
Terrence Mann. ( Broadway actor and cult TV/movie star who played in the broadway show of "Beauty and The Beast", is a guess on "Law and Order" and played the rock-and-roll singer bounty hunter from "Critters 1 & 2")
David Bowie.
Stephen Dorff.
Owen Wilson.
Christian Slater.
Michael Ironside.

No offense meant, but that is quite possibly THE worst listing of Joker casting choices I've ever seen.

[Violently Apathetic]

Christ, when I first saw the title of this thread my sleep addled brain noted the plural 'Jokers' and was like 'There's more than one of them now?! Can we at least kill ONE then?'

Anyway, Christian Slater isn't quite as bad of choice as he seems, I always thought he looked and sounded pretty sinister a lot of the time. Hell, if Bard Pitt can make a convincing badguy in California I'm sure Slater could. Not that he's an ideal choice, just that he's not as out there as one would think.

[infoghost]

Slater would be like someone doing an imitation of Nicholson doing the joker, imo.

[milhouse123321]

Mark Hamill would be entertaining if nothing else..

haha Cock Knocker

[protege]

Christ, when I first saw the title of this thread my sleep addled brain noted the plural 'Jokers' and was like 'There's more than one of them now?! Can we at least kill ONE then?'

Anyway, Christian Slater isn't quite as bad of choice as he seems, I always thought he looked and sounded pretty sinister a lot of the time. Hell, if Bard Pitt can make a convincing badguy in California I'm sure Slater could. Not that he's an ideal choice, just that he's not as out there as one would think.
There's a casting coup; Brad Pitt could be the Joker, and Angelina Jolie could be Harley Quinn.

[OverMaster]

There's a casting coup; Brad Pitt could be the Joker, and Angelina Jolie could be Harley Quinn.

*Pukes quietly on a corner*

Seriously, Jolie is the most overrated actress ever. She never could pull off Harley.


BTW, what's that with Nolan recently saying the Joker will have just a small, underlying role in the sequel? The Joker is an icon! A big, commanding presence! He needs to have a big role in the screen when he shows up!

[black_flash]

the new joker has already been anonced...its CRISPIN GLOVER...

[stealthwise]

the new joker has already been anonced...its CRISPIN GLOVER...

Rumour, rumour, rumour, although I wouldn't mind it.

[Totoro Man]

There shouldn't even BE a Harley Quinn in the movies because I can't hear anyone but Arleen Sorkin saying the character's lines.

Agree that Jolie just doesn't work for the role. You'd be better off, if you're going to go through the atrocity of casting the character in a live-action film at all, of going with someone who could convey the part ... but then we're back to square one and you have to just arbitrarily pick someone who "might" come close.

Like Wynona Ryder? She's got a criminal history for it. :p:p

[Ripper]

Eddie Izzard would make an excellent Joker.

[NathanielEssex]

I really wish Crispin Glover was cast as the Joker...

[caboose]

[QUOTE=OverMaster]
BTW, what's that with Nolan recently saying the Joker will have just a small, underlying role in the sequel?/QUOTE]

If what you say is true and I doubt it is, Nolan must be making Long Halloween the movie.

[Wyclefdoug]

Johnny Depp

[protege]

*Pukes quietly on a corner*

Seriously, Jolie is the most overrated actress ever. She never could pull off Harley.


BTW, what's that with Nolan recently saying the Joker will have just a small, underlying role in the sequel? The Joker is an icon! A big, commanding presence! He needs to have a big role in the screen when he shows up!
She has the lips for it....and that's weird- if the Joker is going to be in a small role- who's going to be the lead bad guy?

[protege]

There shouldn't even BE a Harley Quinn in the movies because I can't hear anyone but Arleen Sorkin saying the character's lines.

Agree that Jolie just doesn't work for the role. You'd be better off, if you're going to go through the atrocity of casting the character in a live-action film at all, of going with someone who could convey the part ... but then we're back to square one and you have to just arbitrarily pick someone who "might" come close.

Like Wynona Ryder? She's got a criminal history for it. :p:p
Guys, i was KIDDING!

[the goddamn batman]

If Micheal Ironside lost as much weight as Bale did in The Machinist and Mark Hamill overdubbed the voice it could work.

According to Batman on film, the joker role will be a much smaller role than 1989's Batman. WB gave Nolan a list of people they think could do it, but Nolan has free reign to cast whoever he wants. I assume that extends to the entire film.

[Gary Joyce]

Crispin Glover would definitely be my first choice.
Walton Goggins (shane from the shield)
Steve Buscemi

They would be my first 3 choices

[Nick Kal]

Lachey Hulme!

[Gary Joyce]

While Lachey Hulme looks the part of the joker i dont think i've actually seen him in anything so i'll reserve judgement on him.

[jelly [blank] of doom]

http://www.klownsasesinos.com/noticias/imagenes/crispin1.jpg

If that man ain't Joker.. Who can be?

[Ravenheart]

the new joker has already been anonced...its CRISPIN GLOVER...



I heard recently that Robin Williams was very interested in playing the part.

[The Blue Devil]

I heard recently that Robin Williams was very interested in playing the part.

...

I don't know wether to be thrilled, or horrified...

[Murrocko]

He's the friggin Joker, how can he only have a small role .... a set up for the third film? I dunno, but he should have a pretty decent sized role for a Batman movie.


Robin Williams ..... the fuck?

[NathanielEssex]

of doom']http://www.klownsasesinos.com/noticias/imagenes/crispin1.jpg

If that man ain't Joker.. Who can be?

That man was born to play the Joker! Jeezus.

[filthysize]

About Joker being a small role... I'm not surprised that Nolan said that. Goyer already leaked the story of the script about a few months ago. He said the main story will be about Bats, Gordon and Dent -- The Long Halloween style -- trying to bring down an arms dealer (who Goyer's hinting to be the Penguin) who's selling guns to a rich Gotham heir not unlike Bruce Wayne, but evil (my theory is that it's Black Mask... but I'm praying for DEADSHOT!). And The Joker will only going to be a "wild card" (his words) among the chaos, not affiliated with anyone but killing people left and right. So yeah, small role apparently.

[The Xenos]

Wow. I rather like that idea. I wouldn't mind Joker being a side villian. It's quite fitting actually.Of coruse, I'd love a full Long Halloween adapation, but what Nolan and Goyer have done is aslo a great Batman tale and I'd love to see what happens next.

As for casting. I don't know about Glover. He's a bit too carzy in real life. I'm rather partial to the Adrian Brody suggestion.

[Nick Kal]

Goyer isn't writing the sequel. I forgot where I read that.. but it was officially announced that someone else was, right? I'll check IMDB.

Anyway, He said it would have been Joker as the focus of the 2nd film and Two-Face in the third.

[filthysize]

Goyer isn't writing the sequel. I forgot where I read that.. but it was officially announced that someone else was, right? I'll check IMDB.

Anyway, He said it would have been Joker as the focus of the 2nd film and Two-Face in the third. He's not. Nolan's brother (who wrote the original Memento short story) is writing the actual screenplay, but they're using a treatment that Goyer wrote up for movie #2 & #3. You're right about the 2nd story being Joker and 3rd being Two-Face. That was Goyer's treatment. He said they'd catch Joker by the end of the second movie, and open up the third movie with Joker's trial, where he'd throw the acid in Dent's face.

[Josh]

He said they'd catch Joker by the end of the second movie, and open up the third movie with Joker's trial, where he'd throw the acid in Dent's face.I would hate to have Two-Face's origin connected to the Joker. If Maroni was a thug working for the Joker, I could accept that change, but Joker himself just doesn't do it for me. Why don't we just reveal that Joker killed Batman's parents?

I know I'm being the biggest whiny fanboy crybaby in the world right now. I'm cool with that.

[protege]

I have to admit, i kind of like the idea of mining fresh new territory, as opposed to rehashing the Batman/ Joker conflict from the first movie again.

[jelly [blank] of doom]

About Joker being a small role... I'm not surprised that Nolan said that. Goyer already leaked the story of the script about a few months ago. He said the main story will be about Bats, Gordon and Dent -- The Long Halloween style -- trying to bring down an arms dealer (who Goyer's hinting to be the Penguin) who's selling guns to a rich Gotham heir not unlike Bruce Wayne, but evil (my theory is that it's Black Mask... but I'm praying for DEADSHOT!). And The Joker will only going to be a "wild card" (his words) among the chaos, not affiliated with anyone but killing people left and right. So yeah, small role apparently.

I would actually enjoy this very much.. I'd geekgasam if this happened.

[dancj]

Ya know who should be the Joker?

Mark Hamil.

Nope - One thing the Joker absolutely has to be is reasonably tall and skinny (or at least skinny). That's a big part of why Jack Nickelson was so wrong and why Robin Williams would be too.

[dancj]

Slater would be like someone doing an imitation of Nicholson doing the joker, imo.

Exactly what I was going to say. Slater's currently doing One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest on stage. Not content with completely copying Jack Nickelson's acting style, he's now repeating his roles!

Dan

[OverMaster]

I heard recently that Robin Williams was very interested in playing the part.

Too old for a Year One Joker.

[BoosterBronze]

Every time we have this discussion (which I beleive is every six days :) ) I have to say HUGO WEAVING would be perfect, with his creepy dead eyes, huge mouth, and wierdly shaped head.

[Haunt]

1. Christopher Eccleston

2. Lachy Hulme

3. Paul Bettany

and the best part, none of them look and sound nerdy *cough*willard*cough*

[Dustin Griffin]

Crispin Glover would definitely be my first choice.
Walton Goggins (shane from the shield)


Walton Goggins is ian interesting choice. Apparently (according to audio commentaries) he' the most intense character actor on the Shield. If another character has beef with Shane he wont even speak to the actor all day, just stand back and toss random insults at him. They say theres been several times when filming a scene where the other actor have almost punched him. I think "Lem" may have actually punched him during filming.

Plus, hes crazy as horsesh*t.

[CjP]

I heard recently that Robin Williams was very interested in playing the part.

If its true, I'm not seeing it. Casting him would be the same mentality used when they did Nicholson... sure he looks ABSOLUTELY NOTHING LIKE the joker, but he's got that crazy thing coing on! :rolleyes:

[Haunt]

That man was born to play the Joker! Jeezus.

Christopher Eccleston still looks more like the Joker, imo. he's taller, more imposing, and more harlequinish in appearance (big ears, long nose, big smile, very unfriendly-looking eyes, etc). all that and he's, both, more of an up-and-comer and doesn't have a reputation for being difficult to work with.

http://www.geocities.com/bvgh17/RTChris.jpg

[NathanielEssex]

I've gotta get a look at Eccleston, then. But imposing? Since when is the Joker supposed to look imposing? Or be tall? Yeah, I know the secret files always list him as 6'5, but how come 6'2 Batman is always taller than him when they are juxtaposed?

And Paul Bettany is a horrible choice, imo. I just don't see how he looks like the Joker in any way, whatsoever. His voice doesn't sound like it could be Joker-esque, either, but then again, he's never tried to sound like him, so that may be a moot point.

Someone mentioned Steve Buscemi. I love that guy. Should have played Scarecrow, dammit. :mad: GRRR!! Anyway, I could see him as Mad Hatter or, better yet, Cornelius Stirk. But I wouldn't hold my breath on Stirk appearing in a movie. Well, unless it's as another Arkham inmate who looks nothing like his comic counterpart (I'm thinking a bespectacled, muscular black guy) and gets his lights punched out by Batman one second after his first and only appearance. Yeah, I'm still fuming about how they done Zsasz...

[filthysize]

And Paul Bettany is a horrible choice, imo. I just don't see how he looks like the Joker in any way, whatsoever. His voice doesn't sound like it could be Joker-esque, either, but then again, he's never tried to sound like him, so that may be a moot point. http://www.paulbettany.net/sounds/torture.mpeg

Watching Gangster No. 1 convinced me that Bettany is the best choice for Joker.

[NathanielEssex]

http://www.paulbettany.net/sounds/torture.mpeg

Watching Gangster No. 1 convinced me that Bettany is the best choice for Joker.

Cool, thanks! I'm gonna have to rent that.

[Haunt]

Cool, thanks! I'm gonna have to rent that.

yes, you really should. anyways, you pretty much answered your own question about Joker being tall. he's imposing but not bulky. Batman appears larger by design. it's why he wears a long black cape. in the dark/standing on a rooftop, Batman is going to look huge. it's part of his stagecraft. and because he's bulkier than the Joker, he's going to naturally look larger. but if you were to look at Joker standing by a couple of goons or someone like the Riddler, he'd look a lot taller/more "imposing." that's how i've always seen it. it also makes him look more (searching for a description) "regal." presidential candidates (at least winners) tend to be taller. Joker definately doesn't have Steve Buscemi's build.

anyways, i'm rambling but i picked Eccleston mostly for his facial features. he's tall enough to be physically imposing but also has somewhat clownish features; as mentioned...long nose, beady eyes, big ears.
comparison...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/3/3d/JokercolorLG.jpg/425px-JokercolorLG.jpg
http://www.shillpages.com/dw/ecclec09.jpg
http://www.shillpages.com/dw/ecclec08.jpg

[NathanielEssex]

Oh yeah, that guy definitely looks like the Joker. I still think Crispin Glover is a better choice, but not by much.

Again, aren't all files and universe handbooks inaccurate in some way? That certainly would explain why Joker is always shorter than Batman when the two are face-to-face. The only member of his rogues who's taller (not counting Freeze, of course) is Scarecrow. He's always being shown as taller than Batman.
But I'm still trying to think of a comic book moment when Batman was right next to Joker, or in his face, that has the J-Man depicted as taller. Hell, I can't even think of an example where they were of equal stature. :confused:

[Your Imaginary Pal]

I heard recently that Robin Williams was very interested in playing the part.

Does that mean he'll dye the hair on his arms green as well. I could see Williams as the Creeper. Hopefully with much more clothes than he normally wears.

A friend of mine feels it should be Benecio Deltoro after his performance in Sin City. Not a bad choice, but i think Crispin Glover would be absolutely perfect, in terms of appearance, but he normally plays a passive/agressive or Neurotic loner. As long as he doesn't have a Nick Nolte, Hulk performance, I'm cool with it.

[OverMaster]

Does that mean he'll dye the hair on his arms green as well. I could see Williams as the Creeper. Hopefully with much more clothes than he normally wears.

I could very well see Robin Williams as the Ventriloquist.

[Gary Joyce]

Walton Goggins is ian interesting choice. Apparently (according to audio commentaries) he' the most intense character actor on the Shield. If another character has beef with Shane he wont even speak to the actor all day, just stand back and toss random insults at him. They say theres been several times when filming a scene where the other actor have almost punched him. I think "Lem" may have actually punched him during filming.

Plus, hes crazy as horsesh*t.


Yeah i was just watching the last series of the shield and i just thought he'd be perfect for it.Didnt know he was intense like you said though now i definitely want him as the Joker.

[dancj]

I could very well see Robin Williams as the Ventriloquist.

Nah - The Ventriloquist is William H Macey

[NathanielEssex]

I personally think Paul Giamatti, with his hair dyed white, would be a good Ventriloquist.

[frankiedetroit]

Nope - One thing the Joker absolutely has to be is reasonably tall and skinny (or at least skinny). That's a big part of why Jack Nickelson was so wrong and why Robin Williams would be too.

I dunno. Hugh Jackman does a great Wolverine, IMHO, and he's not 5-3.

I vote for Sean Penn as the Joker.

[the goddamn batman]

presidential candidates (at least winners) tend to be taller.


I'm sorry. Who's the President? Who did he run against, both times?

Isn't John Kerry quite a tall man? Isn't Gore slightly above average heigth?

[EZMOHR]

I know my two choices will never get even a whiff of a look to play the Joker, but every week, my two choices play the Joker on their TV show......


1. John C. McGinley- His Dr. Cox on Scrubs IS the Joker every week. This man has the size, and that crazy glint in his eye to BE the Joker.

2. Zach Braff- He plays an aspect of the Joker every week on Scrubs. He would be my second choice.

I know neither one of these guys are "POPULAR", but I think they would make cool choices for THe Joker in a new Batman movie.

[dancj]

I dunno. Hugh Jackman does a great Wolverine, IMHO, and he's not 5-3.

That's why I wasn't too strict on the tall part. To have him not be skinny would be a bit of a crime though

[spideyrules99]

I would have to say Paul Bettany would be my choice. I did not think he could pull of a bad guy but I watched Firewall a few days ago. Where it is not a great movie Paul did a great job with the role. I think he could handle Joker easy.

Walton Goggins would also not be that bad. I dont like Shane but I have to say as an actor the guy does what he needs to do. He plays the part of Shane dead on and has me disliking him every show. So I think he could pull off a Joker.

[Haunt]

I'm sorry. Who's the President? Who did he run against, both times?

Isn't John Kerry quite a tall man? Isn't Gore slightly above average heigth?


who is "our" president? definately no one i voted for. anyways, how tall is Bush? i said, "presidential candidates tend to be tall." they do.

[EZMOHR]

who is "our" president? definately no one i voted for. anyways, how tall is Bush? i said, "presidential candidates tend to be tall." they do.


Even though people are cracking on you for what you said, what you said is true, in the history of the USA, most every presidential canidate ever has been over 6ft. tall. That is a fact.

And secondly, climb off the cross son, just cause you didn't vote for the man, doesn't mean he ISN'T your president. Just got to live with it. It's only a couple more years til some new Pied Piper rolls through the land, and sings you the sweet nothings you wish to hear, but totally steals your vote and does nothing you want him to do.

[phantom1592]

Nope - One thing the Joker absolutely has to be is reasonably tall and skinny (or at least skinny). That's a big part of why Jack Nickelson was so wrong and why Robin Williams would be too.

Just make sure he's shorter than Batman. The hero is always the tallest :)


HATED Batman Forever/& RObin. Batman looked up to Robin?!?!?!:confused:

[Ripcord]

I think Crispin Glover is perfect and the idea for Joker to play a smaller role is exactally what I wanted, that way we can get him in on the third movie too.

[soapmaker]

It's gonna happen. So who do you think is twisted enough to play The Joker. My money is with Sean Penn. In my opinion he would be perfect! He's could pull off the scary sinister part of The Joker. But also easily pull of the Zanny, crazy part of him. Plus he's a great actor. So what do you all think?

Soapmaker No1 fan

[the film freak]

Noah Taylor who played the young Hitler in Max and the young David Helfgot in Shine. I saw him smile on some night vision camera on one of The Life Aquatic extras and was seriously one of the most f***ed up things I've seen.

Plus the guy played Hitler. So you can't say he's not evil enough to play Joker.

[The Foreigner]

It's gonna happen. So who do you think is twisted enough to play The Joker. My money is with Sean Penn. In my opinion he would be perfect! He's could pull off the scary sinister part of The Joker. But also easily pull of the Zanny, crazy part of him. Plus he's a great actor. So what do you all think?

Soapmaker No1 fan

He also has completely lost his sense of humour.

[knightsintights]

Hugo Weaving,Hugo Weaving,Hugo Weaving

He would play the perfect insanely sinister joker,

http://www.all-pictures-photos.com/images/hugo-weaving/hugo-weaving-013-img.jpg

go here

Then my second chioce would be crispen

[soapmaker]

He also has completely lost his sense of humour.

If he's lost all sense of humour, why was he in friends?

[MartinPasko]

...or, for that matter, Al Pacino, neither of whose agents would probably be thrilled with the offer if it's a small role (unless it's "boxed billing" -- you know, "Special Appearance by..." or "And so-and-so as The Joker" as the last main-title actor credit.

I wonder -- and, mind you, I know nothing: if Nolan is the kind of guy who prefers casting people he's worked with before, then from among them I can think of someone who, physically at least, could pull it off, and who probably has the acting chops (on the basis of Memento and L.A. Confidential, at least, if not The Time Machine): Guy Pearce. God knows he's got the teeth for it. Not that any of this means anything...

[Kara Zor El]

Stan Laurel

[the film freak]

Stan Laurel

If we're casting dead people why not just dig up Joker inspiration Conrad Veidt.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2d/Man_who_laughs.jpghttp://www.olgabaclanova.com/pictures/man_who_laughs_ss_2.jpg

[reddkryten]

Johnny Depp (I think he is capable of playing every role ever created)

Hugo Weaving

Lachy Hulme (He was so Jokery in Enter The Matrix)

Alexis Denisof (Wesley from Angel. In one episode an underling walks into his office complaining about being assigned to the Burkle case. Wesley shot him in the leg while smiling)

Adam Baldwin (Jayne from Firefly and Marcus Hamilton from Angel. Hamilton had the friendly, happy bad ass thing going on).

[the film freak]

Johnny Depp (I think he is capable of playing every role ever created)

Hugo Weaving

Lachy Hulme (He was so Jokery in Enter The Matrix)

Alexis Denisof (Wesley from Angel. In one episode an underling walks into his office complaining about being assigned to the Burkle case. Wesley shot him in the leg while smiling)

Adam Baldwin (Jayne from Firefly and Marcus Hamilton from Angel. Hamilton had the friendly, happy bad ass thing going on).

I don't see Alexis Denisof happening though I'd love it if he got the part. I don't know much about Lachy Hulme other then he's pushing for the part. I don't think Adam Baldwin would be a good Joker. Maybe Two Face but again like Densiof don't see it happening.

Hugo Weaving strikes me more as an ideal Riddler.

Personally I'm hoping Nolan forgets about the Joker and gives us that two hour Batman vs. The KGBeast movie we're all clamoring for.

[filthysize]

Hugo Weaving = Mr. Freeze

[phantom1592]

Johnny Depp (I think he is capable of playing every role ever created)

Hugo Weaving

Adam Baldwin (Jayne from Firefly and Marcus Hamilton from Angel. Hamilton had the friendly, happy bad ass thing going on).


I like Hugo, (might be strange to seem him so.... emotional though. Johnny Depp I think would steal the show Like Jack Nicholson did, and Baldwin is too.. Big. He looks like he could break the guy who plays batman.

[Nick Kal]

Lachy Hulme has been listed as in talks for The Joker on IMDB!

[filthysize]

Lachy Hulme has been listed as in talks for The Joker on IMDB!

Er, yeah. IMDB's data are user-submitted. Not exactly reliable.

[dancj]

Personally I'm hoping Nolan forgets about the Joker and gives us that two hour Batman vs. The KGBeast movie we're all clamoring for.

I seriously hope you're joking

[Kara Zor El]

If we're casting dead people why not just dig up Joker inspiration Conrad Veidt.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2d/Man_who_laughs.jpghttp://www.olgabaclanova.com/pictures/man_who_laughs_ss_2.jpg

Stan Laurel is Dead?????

Even so, he's bigger box office than old Conrad and Stan could make his ears wiggle, which would be good to do whenever he heard Batman's name.

It's weird but I've seen the Joker look exactly like that several times. Not just in his first outing but in an Eleseworlds. The one set in the 20's with Houdini.

[PrimalScream]

brttany murphy as harley quinn (excellent choice) and either johnny deep or crispin glover as the joker. or maybe daniel day lewis (don't know why),jude law or even jonny lee miller as the joker perhaps. hey actually thinking about it maybe T-bag from prison break could be the joker.what do ya think?

[Kara Zor El]

Primalscream you have a doppleganger! The multiverse did survive!

Day Lewis could be amazing. David Tennant who is the current Doctor Who could be good.

Do you guys want to see your chosen actor have prosthetic enhancements. Like long chin, long nose, green eyes? Or more realistic, so the actual actor as is but white skin and green hair and lipstick?

[reddkryten]

Brittany Murphy as Harley. I can't see it.

Joey Lauren Adams IS Harley.

[Bishop_Proudstar]

Billy Zane was rumored to be The Joker towards the end of the previous Franchise..( or Lex Luthor...I forgot where I read that..)

Gwen Stefani would've been a great HarleyQuinn back then.. Athletic woman..

[Bishop_Proudstar]

Depp isn't a smile-guy...

Plus, he always plays Burton-type "kookies"..

[Doctor Strange]

I think Paul Bettany as Joker would be great.
I don't like Hulme for some strange reason.

[genesis]

If only Michael Keaton wasn't the first Batman he would be a freaking sweet joker. But anyways. I would say Johnny Depp he can nail the creepy roles. Need proof end of Secret Window. Am I the only one who would love to see the Black Mask in a movie, but not the one before it got burned on his face. I would say Jeff Goldblum could pull that one off, even though he could have done the scarecrow.

[genesis]

If only Michael Keaton wasn't the first Batman he would be a freaking sweet joker. But anyways. I would say Johnny Depp he can nail the creepy roles. Need proof end of Secret Window. Am I the only one who would love to see the Black Mask in a movie, but not the one before it got burned on his face. I would say Jeff Goldblum could pull that one off, even though he could have done the scarecrow.

[dancj]

Do you guys want to see your chosen actor have prosthetic enhancements. Like long chin, long nose, green eyes? Or more realistic, so the actual actor as is but white skin and green hair and lipstick?

Good question. I think I'd go with minor prosthetics. They overdid it way too much for Jack Nicolson. That said, the Joker in Dead End looked fantastic and he had pretty major prosthetics (I hope for his sake)

[Kara Zor El]

Good question. I think I'd go with minor prosthetics. They overdid it way too much for Jack Nicolson. That said, the Joker in Dead End looked fantastic and he had pretty major prosthetics (I hope for his sake)

That Joker does look great but he sounds terrible.

I agree they overdid it with Nicholson because they tried to make him look like he had a permenant smile and you could see it was fake. You just need an actor who already has a very big moutha and smile and work on the nose and chin a little bit.
William Dafoe springs to mind.
When they cast him as the GreeN Goblin in Spiderman I thought great, he looks like a bloody goblin, just paint him green and yellow up his eyes and he's there. Then they wasted that face behind a helmet!!!

[Freelyx]

My short list.

http://imdb.com/name/nm0079273/ Paul Bettany
http://imdb.com/name/nm0000417/ Crispin Glover
http://imdb.com/name/nm0000652/ James Spader (I love to hate this guy, and he does the @$$hole crazy thing so well.)
http://imdb.com/name/nm0000409/ Brendan Fraser
http://imdb.com/name/nm0000614/ Alan Rickman (Yeah I know hes older, but hes great at playing crazy!)
http://imdb.com/name/nm0000437/ Woody Harrelson (not so much the look here as the acting ability and comedy/drama of the character would work well imo)
http://imdb.com/name/nm0915989/ Hugo Weaving
http://imdb.com/name/nm0005132/ Heath Ledger

A lot are repeats from others here, but some are just actors I think could really do an excellent job at the part. Who ever they pick has his work cut out for him.

[Haunt]

My short list.

http://imdb.com/name/nm0079273/ Paul Bettany


yep. i'd take him, Chris Eccleston, or Lachy Hulme. and that's about it.

[dancj]

Brendad Fraser???????????? WTF?

[Freelyx]

Brendad Fraser???????????? WTF?

He's a great actor. He did a picture some time back where he was a crazed murderer. He coated himself in blood and wrapped barbed wire around his torso and played insanity very well. I think it was called "The Passion of Darkly Noon". I think he could do Joker justice. I know he's not the right build, but I think he has the acting skill to pull it off.

[PrimalScream]

Primalscream you have a doppleganger! The multiverse did survive!

Day Lewis could be amazing. David Tennant who is the current Doctor Who could be good.

Do you guys want to see your chosen actor have prosthetic enhancements. Like long chin, long nose, green eyes? Or more realistic, so the actual actor as is but white skin and green hair and lipstick?

we are many,we are a legion.lol.

[SlightlyMad]

All my choices have already been mentioned (Paul Bettany, Crispin Glover, Johnny Depp, Christopher Ecclestone, Christian Slater) except one:

http://www.abacaxiatomico.com.br/abacaxicineclube/figescurinho/diabo/05.jpg

Jason Lee, his performance as Azrael in Dogma being the test: "Holy Bartender" :cool:

[Choppa]

I would hate to have Two-Face's origin connected to the Joker. If Maroni was a thug working for the Joker, I could accept that change, but Joker himself just doesn't do it for me. Why don't we just reveal that Joker killed Batman's parents?

I know I'm being the biggest whiny fanboy crybaby in the world right now. I'm cool with that.

He said that that treatment isn't going to be used so you have nothing to worry about.

[Choppa]

If only Michael Keaton wasn't the first Batman he would be a freaking sweet joker.

So is there a one batman movie per career law or something?

[genesis]

So is there a one batman movie per career law or something?

no it is just it would be a little weird for the former batman duking it out with the current batman

[Choppa]

no it is just it would be a little weird for the former batman duking it out with the current batman

Wierd like having Sean Connery play the villian in an upcoming James Bond flick.

[Catman]

Wierd like having Sean Connery play the villian in an upcoming James Bond flick.

Now that would actually be pretty cool I think.

[lalalei2001]

I think Alan Cumming would be great! He played the Emcee in the 98 revival of Cabaret, and here are some pics of him in that role.

http://www.geocities.com/lalalei2001/Emcee.JPG

^_^ All you need to do is turn his hair green!

[Bishop_Proudstar]

What about the actor who portrays "Shaggy" in "The Scooby Doo" films?

Matthew Lillard

[dancj]

What about the actor who portrays "Shaggy" in "The Scooby Doo" films?

Matthew Lillard

Having that Jim Carey wannabe playing The Joker is a surefire way to ruin the film

Dan

[suprmn1982]

Ya know who should be the Joker?

Mark Hamil.
man he'd be great but to do it right he'd have to lose weight

[Kirayoshi]

Jason Lee, his performance as Azrael in Dogma being the test: "Holy Bartender" :cool:The only problem is that most people(myself included)would hear Lee's voice as the Joker and think, "Hey, it's Syndrome!"

Seriously, what's his origin? He wanted to be Robin but Batman told him, "I work alone", so he turned against Batman as the Joker?

[Kirayoshi]

He's a great actor. He did a picture some time back where he was a crazed murderer. He coated himself in blood and wrapped barbed wire around his torso and played insanity very well. I think it was called "The Passion of Darkly Noon". I think he could do Joker justice. I know he's not the right build, but I think he has the acting skill to pull it off.I can see Brendan Frasier, but I think he'd be better as Harvey Dent. Seriously, a handsome, cocky, take-charge DA who becomes a fast friend of Bruce Wayne's while working with Batman and Jim Gordon, but secretly has a dark side that's finally unleashed when a capo he tries to prosecute throws acid in his face, turning him into the madman Two-Face. Frasier would pull that off perfectly

[phantom1592]

I can see Brendan Frasier, but I think he'd be better as Harvey Dent. Seriously, a handsome, cocky, take-charge DA who becomes a fast friend of Bruce Wayne's while working with Batman and Jim Gordon, but secretly has a dark side that's finally unleashed when a capo he tries to prosecute throws acid in his face, turning him into the madman Two-Face. Frasier would pull that off perfectly


I've never seen him do a "Dark" role before, but MAN he would make a GREAT dent! I also think he'd be a good enough actor to pull of Two-Face too. Just because he hasn't doesn't mean he couldn't. :)

I think he's a little too large for Joker though. He'd have to be 2F.

[Gary Joyce]

For Two-Face Vince Vaughn would be perfect.

[phantom1592]

For Two-Face Vince Vaughn would be perfect.


Him I have a hard time seeing. I don't think he COULD play it serious enough. Just not impressed with his acting ability.

[jerrymcl89]

Neal McDonough ("Boomtown") would make a really excellent Harvey Dent.

As to the Joker, I agree with others who have suggested Chris Eccleston.

[Kara Zor El]

Neal McDonough ("Boomtown") would make a really excellent Harvey Dent.

As to the Joker, I agree with others who have suggested Chris Eccleston.

The problem with Christopher Eccleston is he is absolutely awful at accents. He played Doctor Who with a northern mancunian accent because he couldn't pull of an RP one without becoming wooden. He's learned that from past roles when he's done RP and come across like a pan. He's a fantastic actor in his own accent. But a Joker from Salford just won't work for me.
If he could sort that out then he's physically right. Bit of a nob to work with though.

[Gary Joyce]

Him I have a hard time seeing. I don't think he COULD play it serious enough. Just not impressed with his acting ability.


Well i thought he did ok in the pyscho remake.I also think he would play the cocky handsome D.A pretty well.

[Kara Zor El]

Could Jim Carey pull it off? No not that!!!! The Joker! In a dark way. Not an out and out comedic way.

[Catman]

Could Jim Carey pull it off? No not that!!!! The Joker! In a dark way. Not an out and out comedic way.

LOL

I have some faith that Carrey would be able to portray a dark, and not so camped up, version of The Joker. But you have to believe that his past association with the previous Batman films would be played upon immensely in the hype for the film ("He was The Riddler, now Jim is playing The Joker in the Batman Begins sequel!") and that may ultimately hurt the film rather than help it.

I like Jim, and I think he's a very talented actor. But honestly, I have to say that he shouldnt even be remotely considered for the part of The Joker. And considering the limited screen time that The Joker is rumored to have in the upcoming sequel (and also considering that Jim has already been in a Batman movie), I really cant see Carrey pursuing the role to the extent other actors have.

[Gezora]

I care not what a lesser man sayeth, Paul Ruebens is still a good choice. Crispin Glover and Paul Bettany are probably better choices, but Ruebens works, too.

[dancj]

The problem with Christopher Eccleston is he is absolutely awful at accents. He played Doctor Who with a northern mancunian accent because he couldn't pull of an RP one without becoming wooden. He's learned that from past roles when he's done RP and come across like a pan. He's a fantastic actor in his own accent. But a Joker from Salford just won't work for me.
If he could sort that out then he's physically right. Bit of a nob to work with though.

RP ?

[Kara Zor El]

RP ?
Received Pronunciation, which is the Queen's English. In other words posh English. Upper Class accent. Doctor Who was always played by actors who used RP to portray the Doctor. But because Eccleston can't do it without it affecting his acting then he played the Doctor with a northern accent, which for a lot of fans just didn't work.

[dancj]

Thanks - the best guess anyone at my work could come up with was Right Proper.

I'd always assumed that they let Chris Eccleston stay northern because there was no reason not to. Then again, by that logic they'd have let David Tennant stay Scottish

Dan

[Kara Zor El]

Thanks - the best guess anyone at my work could come up with was Right Proper.
Tee hee!!! That's so Alan Moore somehow.


I'd always assumed that they let Chris Eccleston stay northern because there was no reason not to. Then again, by that logic they'd have let David Tennant stay Scottish

Dan

To be fair to Eccleston, he said he didn't want to do RP because as a kid living on a rough estate he couldn't get into Doctor Who because he always spoke posh blah blah. And that is why he didn't do it. So kids today could identify with the character. But what he forgets is lots of kids, like me who grew up in rough areas loved that show and loved the actors playing the Doctor.
I think that was an excuse and cover up for his real reason that he's crap at doing posh. Look at hin 48 Days later and Elizabeth, he's posh in them and wooden as hell. But he is great in roles where he doesn't put an accent on. I reckon his American accent would be even worse.

[Project 22]

Personally, I think that John Malkovich would do a great Joker, if only he was given a wig, but hey, the neo-Nazi look has been done for Joker in Batman Black and White, so who knows. Other than him, I think that Crispin Glover would be a good choice, followed by Alan Cummings and Joaqin Phoenix.

As for Harvey Dent, I see someone like Liev Schrieber doing a good job. I also think that Matthew MacConahey (or however you spell it) would be great too. Plus it would be cool to see him go up against Christian Bale in a movie that didn't suck as badly as Ring of Fire did. And this time Bale would whomp on him instead of how it happened in that movie.

[Prosthetic Head]

I think Johnny Depp would be a really good choice to play the Joker.

[nervmeister]

Adrien Brody.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0004778/

[O'Grady]

lot of actors have been mentioned. but none of them really looks more like Joker than Christopher Eccleston. whether you appreciate him as an actor or not, he really does look like a harlequin. even has the perfect height for it. i could easily see him facing Christian Bale on the big screen; name has just the right amount of star power behind it.

[Adrian Tullberg]

There's been a few photomanipulations of Eccleston as the Joker floating around ...

http://walford.smugmug.com/photos/31974838-M.jpg

http://walford.smugmug.com/photos/31974314-M.jpg