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AlistairCrane
08-25-2008, 05:26 PM
Now that my favourite soap Passions has ended, I am officially done with the daytime drama world. *sighs*
Ontir
08-25-2008, 06:01 PM
Passions was just bizarre! For me, it was over when "Timmy" died.
I've gotten back into As the World Turns since "Luke" came out. Fortunately there's a helpful wag who has edited down the entire "Luke & Noah" story, and posted it on Youtube!
I did watch "GH" today to see the return of Jeanie Francis. It was interestingly shot. I'm not sure if they started to shoot the sequence before they re-signed her or not. Only on a soap can someone emerge from a catatonic state thinner and with better hair than when they collapsed!
I would have preferred Passions ending with Theresa in a straightjacket.
Ontir
08-25-2008, 07:05 PM
How did it end?
I used to love when they had actors from other soaps more or less playing those characters, or alluding to the characters' history.
AlistairCrane
08-25-2008, 09:49 PM
How did it end?
I used to love when they had actors from other soaps more or less playing those characters, or alluding to the characters' history.
Gwen and Rebecca were finally exposed for outing Ethan as a Bennett to the tabloids and framing Theresa. Ethan dumped Gwen, and then it was revealed that he and Gwen were never legally married because she had drunkenly wed a random in Las Vegas and never got divorced.
Everyone was gathered in the church for the quadruple wedding ceremony (Noah/Paloma, Luis/Fancy, and Kay/Miguel got married). Mount Harmony, a volcano, was erupting, and the only way to stop it was for Tabitha to be baptized. After Tabitha saved the town, Endora used her magic to restore Father Lonigan's sight. Then, Theresa and Ethan finally got married.
Then the show ended with the cast waving goodbye to the camera as confetti and balloons fell. The Passions theme song played over this, and Tabitha held a picture of Timmy. Next, a title card appeared thanking the fans for their support. Finally, the rest of the crew joined the cast on stage, and the music changed to Timmy singing "Auld Lang Syne". It was a tear jerker.
So after nine years, we finally got our happy ending with Theresa and Ethan ending up together!! :D The only ridiculous thing was Antonio coming back from the dead and Sheridan getting back together with him. But I was thrilled with the Theresa/Ethan ending. :)
Ugoff
08-26-2008, 02:20 PM
Passions was just bizarre! For me, it was over when "Timmy" died.
I've gotten back into As the World Turns since "Luke" came out. Fortunately there's a helpful wag who has edited down the entire "Luke & Noah" story, and posted it on Youtube!
I did watch "GH" today to see the return of Jeanie Francis. It was interestingly shot. I'm not sure if they started to shoot the sequence before they re-signed her or not. Only on a soap can someone emerge from a catatonic state thinner and with better hair than when they collapsed!
ATWT has really nosedived in quality. Luke and Noah are nice together but not enough to keep me watching. Right now I am deeply into Y&R and a watch B&B once in awhile. B&B was really good for awhile but has recently dropped in quality again.
Sorry, but the only soap character I hate more than Theresa is Day's E.J., and that whole nauseating Colleen/Santo storyline.
Legato
08-26-2008, 11:52 PM
I did watch "GH" today to see the return of Jeanie Francis. It was interestingly shot. I'm not sure if they started to shoot the sequence before they re-signed her or not. Only on a soap can someone emerge from a catatonic state thinner and with better hair than when they collapsed!
Until the others see Laura talking to Lulu Im starting to have a feeling that Lulu actually talking to Laura is just a figment of Lulu's imagination. Like the countless times she has seen Logan.
AlistairCrane
08-27-2008, 12:03 AM
Sorry, but the only soap character I hate more than Theresa is Day's E.J., and that whole nauseating Colleen/Santo storyline.
You hated Theresa and not that psychotic blonde bitch Gwen? Um, where we watching the same show? LOL!
Ontir
08-27-2008, 12:57 AM
ATWT has really nosedived in quality. Luke and Noah are nice together but not enough to keep me watching. Right now I am deeply into Y&R and a watch B&B once in awhile. B&B was really good for awhile but has recently dropped in quality again.
I'm not really thrilled with the new "Lilly," or the "Emily the hooker" storyline, but other than that I'm enjoying the show. I think it has also made a smoother transition to the "real world" locations than "Guiding Light," which used to be in the CITY of Springfield, not the "Township." Not that it matters that much. I still haven't forgiven the show for what the producers did to Michael Zaslow!
I know one of B&B's directors, and while he's a nice guy, I can't friggin' stand that show! Ronn Moss is possibly the worst actor on TV, and with Drake Hogestyn still on the air, that's saying a lot! The show is twice the flash and one tenth the quality of "Y&R!" Also, the show is set in and around the fashion industry - WHERE ARE THE MOS?!?!?!?
Legato, you might be right about Lulu and Laura. I actually hope not. I don't want to see Lulu go bonkers and be sent to the looney bin, too. I saw an ad that listed the two of them, along with Spinelli and one other character whom I can't recall just now as potentially marked for death.
I must say that I'm thrilled that they brought Sarah Brown back! It's great seeing her as another character along side Carly 4!
AlistairCrane
08-27-2008, 10:50 AM
Drake Hogestyn has always been a good actor, but since returning in January of this year playing the brainwashed John, he's become great! Love that man.
Ontir
09-17-2008, 11:23 AM
I thought Hogestyn was only good in comparison to the ever-wooden Ronn Moss.
I've been out of the suds for awhile. Did Laura truly return, or is Lulu really going nuts?
Legato
09-17-2008, 11:40 AM
I thought Hogestyn was only good in comparison to the ever-wooden Ronn Moss.
I've been out of the suds for awhile. Did Laura truly return, or is Lulu really going nuts?
Im afraid Laura returning is a figment of Lulu's imagination. Otherwise the place that Laura is placed in would have informed Lucky or Nicholas that she was showing signs of being well.
drwho
09-21-2008, 04:14 PM
I actually saw the final episode of Passions and as corny as the show was and I used to watch it on and off it was pretty moving as an episode. It really felt like there was some love put into it. And you could feel the whole cast kind of just glowing and being happy even though they were canceled.
*spoilers*
I really like how the show started and ended with Theresa. Also the whole way she spoke to the audience like when the show first started it was a nice touch. Also the fact they were playing what sounded like me the original theme to the song. It was a nice final line plus it was kind of funny how Ethan through in the wink at the end. dont know if that was planned or adlibbed but it worked well.
Anyway I have a lot of questions about what happened to the characters that didnt appear in the finale.
1 What happened to Whitney? Where did she go?
2 Did TC ever come back?
3. Where did Whitney's sister go?
4. What happened to pilar's husband and that shrew looking wife of his?
5. Was the Charity story ever resolved?
6. What happened to Eve's sister?
7. What happened to Vincent the he she?
8. What happened to spike?
9. Is Marty still missing?
10. What happened to Jared?
11. Did they ever explain what Chris's deal was?
LOL WHY DID This thread die? People stop watching soaps?
I actually saw the final episode of Passions and as corny as the show was and I used to watch it on and off it was pretty moving as an episode. It really felt like there was some love put into it. And you could feel the whole cast kind of just glowing and being happy even though they were canceled.
*spoilers*
I really like how the show started and ended with Theresa. Also the whole way she spoke to the audience like when the show first started it was a nice touch. Also the fact they were playing what sounded like me the original theme to the song. It was a nice final line plus it was kind of funny how Ethan through in the wink at the end. dont know if that was planned or adlibbed but it worked well.
Anyway I have a lot of questions about what happened to the characters that didnt appear in the finale.
1 What happened to Whitney? Where did she go?
2 Did TC ever come back?
3. Where did Whitney's sister go?
4. What happened to pilar's husband and that shrew looking wife of his?
5. Was the Charity story ever resolved?
6. What happened to Eve's sister?
7. What happened to Vincent the he she?
8. What happened to spike?
9. Is Marty still missing?
10. What happened to Jared?
11. Did they ever explain what Chris's deal was?
LOL WHY DID This thread die? People stop watching soaps?
1, 2, 3) The Russells moved to New Orleans. Whitney was pregnant with Chad's baby at the time. Chad is dead.
4) Martin and Catherine left town.
5) Charity is supposedly living in a convent. Harmony holds too many bad memories for her.
6) Liz left town before everyone figured out that she was the one who shot Julian.
7) Vincent was arrested for trying to poison everyone in town. Nobody ever got around to naming his baby boy.
8) Spike wound up in jail.
9) Marty was returned to Luis and Sheridan.
10) Jared left town.
11) Chris worked for old man Crane to keep Sheridan away from Luis. He later worked with Spike to embezzle money from the cranes. He split when it became clear that Sheridan would only love Luis, he took James/Mark with him.
drwho, Passions fans take heart: http://www.dayscafe.com/cast.html
Some of your favorites have found a new home in Salem! :biggrin:
AlistairCrane
09-23-2008, 04:20 PM
They need to fire Chloe and replace her with Lindsay Hartley so they can re-create the magic of Theresa and Ethan.
AlistairCrane
09-23-2008, 10:18 PM
1 What happened to Whitney? Where did she go?
2 Did TC ever come back?
3. Where did Whitney's sister go?
4. What happened to pilar's husband and that shrew looking wife of his?
5. Was the Charity story ever resolved?
6. What happened to Eve's sister?
7. What happened to Vincent the he she?
8. What happened to spike?
9. Is Marty still missing?
10. What happened to Jared?
11. Did they ever explain what Chris's deal was?
Just to expand on Anna's fabulous answers...
1, 2, 3: Chad and Whitney separated after she found out he was having an affair with Vincent. Chad was later shot and killed by his father Alistair when he attempted to save Ethan, whom Alistair had poisoned. Chad died in Whitney's arms. Deciding she needed a fresh start, Whitney moved to New Orleans. Later, it was revealed that Simone and TC moved there as well.
4: Martin took a job in Chicago; later, it was revealed that Katherine followed him there.
5: No, Charity is still a virgin and never came into her full powers of goodness. She resides in a convent in the Bahamas.
6: Liz revealed to Julian that she shot him at the cannery and also tried to murder Alistair by poisoning his cigar and later stabbing him. Liz soon fled for places unknown. She left before learning Chad was her son.
7: Vincent pretended to be dead and then later teamed up with Esme's niece Viki, a serial killer. They tried to kill everyone in Harmony with a poisoned mushroom sauce at the rehearsal dinner for the quadruple weddings. They actually succeeded and everyone died, but Tabitha sacrificed her powers in order to bring everyone back from the dead. After being revived, Sam apprehended Vincent and put him in jail. The whereabouts of his son with Julian are unknown.
8. Spike was last seen stalking Jessica in January but we never found out what happened to him.
9. Alistair returned Marty to Sheridan last Christmas, hoping she would use him to come between Fancy and Luis.
10. Jared realized Theresa would always love Ethan more than him, so he granted her a divorce and left town.
They need to fire Chloe and replace her with Lindsay Hartley so they can re-create the magic of Theresa and Ethan.
Hell no! Nadia is superior to Lindsay in every way!
AlistairCrane
09-24-2008, 09:36 AM
Hell no! Nadia is superior to Lindsay in every way!
The girl can't act. She's monotonous and vacant and just plain awful. Lindsay Hartley is a fantastic actor and beats Nadia any day.
The girl can't act. She's monotonous and vacant and just plain awful. Lindsay Hartley is a fantastic actor and beats Nadia any day.
Nadia is gorgeous! She was better in past storylines due to better writing. If Lindsay were to be brought in, she could play the crazy Eurotrash girl that Brady met overseas. Then the family would see her, and be begging Brady to go back to Chloe....
AlistairCrane
09-24-2008, 10:28 AM
Um, okaaaaay.
I'm a huge Lindsay fan so now you're on ignore. Take care!!
drwho
09-24-2008, 12:20 PM
Thanks for the cast updates but I never thought Galen or Eric who is ethan I think could act.
Another one I forgot.
What happened to Pretty?
AlistairCrane
09-24-2008, 12:23 PM
Thanks for the cast updates but I never thought Galen or Eric who is ethan I think could act.
Another one I forgot.
What happened to Pretty?
Pretty became obsessed with Luis and faked a pregnancy to try to break up Luis and Fancy. She was exposed, and then went over the edge and tried to kill Fancy and Luis. Sheridan decided enough was enough and ripped off Pretty's scar. It was a fake! She had recovered years ago but pretended to be scarred to gain sympathy. Pretty had a breakdown and was sent to the psych ward.
drwho
09-24-2008, 12:41 PM
Since I have been talking about passions the actress that was whitney was in the pilot for the vampire show True Blood and was pretty awful there and it appears she was replaced.
AlistairCrane
09-24-2008, 01:24 PM
From what I've heard, everyone hates the actress who replaced Brook Kerr in True Blood. I refuse to watch the show now because she was the only reason to watch.
Ontir
10-13-2008, 03:56 PM
I heard Beth Ehlers is on a new show, don't recall which, with Ricky Paul Goldin, and that Cady MacClain (I think that's right.) is the new "Harley" on Guiding Light. Anyone have any info on that?
I'm also a week out of date on the whole Luke/Noah story on AtWT.
AlistairCrane
10-16-2008, 08:21 PM
I heard Beth Ehlers is on a new show, don't recall which, with Ricky Paul Goldin, and that Cady MacClain (I think that's right.) is the new "Harley" on Guiding Light. Anyone have any info on that?
I'm also a week out of date on the whole Luke/Noah story on AtWT.
Yes, Beth Ehlers is now on All My Children with RPG. So far, the Cady rumour is just a rumour. I don't watch ATWT so I can't help ya out there.
AlistairCrane
10-16-2008, 08:24 PM
Sad news. Passions creator/former Days head writer James E. Reilly died over the weekend. He is responsible for, of course, Passions, as well as Carly buried alive, Marlena's possession, the Carrie/Austin/Sami love triangle, and the Salem Stalker stories on Days.
http://soapoperadigest.com/features/special/james_e_reilly_remembered/
Reilly is actually one of the only writers who have actually impacted my own writing, and I always had fantasies of being his apprentince and one day writing his shows myself.
Ontir
10-17-2008, 01:10 PM
Who are Ehlers and Goldin on "AMC?"
The Luke/Noah storyline on "AtWT" has been pretty good. I'm not wild about "New Lilly," but that's often the case with re-casts. I'm not sure why Martha left, but she'll probably be back at some point. She always seems to come back.
Sad news. Passions creator/former Days head writer James E. Reilly died over the weekend. He is responsible for, of course, Passions, as well as Carly buried alive, Marlena's possession, the Carrie/Austin/Sami love triangle, and the Salem Stalker stories on Days.
http://soapoperadigest.com/features/special/james_e_reilly_remembered/
Reilly is actually one of the only writers who have actually impacted my own writing, and I always had fantasies of being his apprentince and one day writing his shows myself.
Not a day goes by when I wacth something and think of how he'd put a twist on it.
Ontir
10-28-2008, 12:00 PM
Tamara Braun returns to daytime, this time one All My Children, playing Bianca Montgomery's wife.
Legato
10-28-2008, 12:21 PM
Tamara Braun returns to daytime, this time one All My Children, playing Bianca Montgomery's wife.
This is interesting.
Ontir
10-28-2008, 01:59 PM
Yeah, the teaser says something about a couple that should never have parted, with Braun holding out a diamond ring. "Bianca" then says,"Yes, I will marry you!" I'm wondering if Braun is the new "Frankie?" I checked imdb, but there's nothing listed soap-wise past "DoOL."
AlistairCrane
10-28-2008, 10:30 PM
Yeah, the teaser says something about a couple that should never have parted, with Braun holding out a diamond ring. "Bianca" then says,"Yes, I will marry you!" I'm wondering if Braun is the new "Frankie?" I checked imdb, but there's nothing listed soap-wise past "DoOL."
I believe she's playing a new character named Reese.
Ontir
11-03-2008, 04:12 PM
Interesting.
Speaking of lesbians, for those missing GH's Courtney (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0932265/), you might want to check out season 6 of the L Word (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0994321/). Disk two is where she enters - big time!
Legato
11-03-2008, 05:33 PM
Interesting.
Speaking of lesbians, for those missing GH's Courtney (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0932265/), you might want to check out season 6 of the L Word (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0994321/). Disk two is where she enters - big time!
Boy was I surprised to find her on that show.
AlistairCrane
11-08-2008, 04:42 PM
I don't know how many of you watch (or watched) One Life to Live, but an amnesiac Marty slept with Todd on Thursday.
*sigh*
I don't know how many of you watch (or watched) One Life to Live, but an amnesiac Marty slept with Todd on Thursday.
*sigh*
The original Todd once said he'd quit if it were ever suggested to him.
Ontir
11-09-2008, 11:53 AM
I don't know how many of you watch (or watched) One Life to Live, but an amnesiac Marty slept with Todd on Thursday.
*sigh*
This has "TRAIN-WRECK" written all over it. Roger was right to say he'd quit, it's just abominable, far worse than Luke & Laura I think.
I was stunned to see Alicia on the L Word, particularly wearing nothing but strappy heals and a smile!
AlistairCrane
11-09-2008, 02:18 PM
This has "TRAIN-WRECK" written all over it. Roger was right to say he'd quit, it's just abominable, far worse than Luke & Laura I think.
I was stunned to see Alicia on the L Word, particularly wearing nothing but strappy heals and a smile!
There's no real pay off to this story since we've already seen Marty deal with the rape and Todd try to earn redemption. The only thing that makes sense now is that Marty kills Todd.
Ontir
11-09-2008, 02:40 PM
That would probably be the best scenario for St. John, who continues to show up in films and primetime TV shows. He makes a good "Todd," but I'm not sure where they're going to take the character, or if they even have any idea. It was a disappointing turn of events.
AlistairCrane
11-09-2008, 03:39 PM
It almost makes sense to end the character where he began. I happen to prefer Trevor St. John as Todd, though. I wonder if they could keep him on as the man who Todd had plastic surgery to look like--IIRC, didn't he assume someone's identity? Or did he just have surgery and pretend to be a made-up person?
Bad news: http://perezhilton.com/2008-11-11-jesse-metcalfe-falls-40-ft-from-balcony-hospitalized
Ontir
11-11-2008, 11:15 AM
All told, it's not THAT bad. He's up and walking without a broken bone. He's damn lucky. I've not heard anything like this since former gay for pay porn star Ryan Idol (Marc Anthony Donnais) turned stage actor fell naked to an NYC sidewalk about 10 years ago, and was fine.
I have an As the World Turns question:
Lucinda is Craig's sister. Katie is Margot's sister. Craig and Katie are siblings. Are Margot and Lucinda related? Can anyone track the sudsy twists of this genealogy?
Ontir
11-11-2008, 11:20 AM
It almost makes sense to end the character where he began. I happen to prefer Trevor St. John as Todd, though. I wonder if they could keep him on as the man who Todd had plastic surgery to look like--IIRC, didn't he assume someone's identity? Or did he just have surgery and pretend to be a made-up person?
Shortly after Trevor St. John came in as Todd, he also played the psychotic bastard whose face he duplicated. I can't remember the details of it, but the psycho, naturally, turned up to torment the Lords and Lanview, PA. St. John is quite good, but I don't think he manages to peel the layers like Howarth did. Every turn was a greater revelation with him, leading to new mysteries and leaving far more to be found. St. John's "Todd" is more of an unknowable cypher, keeping everyone at a certain distance. Howarth's "Todd" let people in, only to confound them with his secret world.
After this turn, it might just be time to let Todd vanish again, for a few years. Then, when he returns, he'll be renewed and he can up-turn the apple carts anew.
Lord of Denial
11-11-2008, 11:45 AM
Finally someone is telling it like it is on GH.
Who knew it would take a fiery latina woman to tell the crime loving citzens of Port Charles that killing people to get what you want makes you a bad person and someone not to be admired. ( I am looking at you Sonny and Jason).
Legato
11-11-2008, 12:07 PM
Finally someone is telling it like it is on GH.
Who knew it would take a fiery latina woman to tell the crime loving citzens of Port Charles that killing people to get what you want makes you a bad person and someone not to be admired. ( I am looking at you Sonny and Jason).
I had my doubts at first but I like how she is keeping it real at the whole thing. Hopefully she stays on for awhile and doesn't get killed off.
AlistairCrane
11-11-2008, 02:08 PM
Shortly after Trevor St. John came in as Todd, he also played the psychotic bastard whose face he duplicated. I can't remember the details of it, but the psycho, naturally, turned up to torment the Lords and Lanview, PA. St. John is quite good, but I don't think he manages to peel the layers like Howarth did. Every turn was a greater revelation with him, leading to new mysteries and leaving far more to be found. St. John's "Todd" is more of an unknowable cypher, keeping everyone at a certain distance. Howarth's "Todd" let people in, only to confound them with his secret world.
After this turn, it might just be time to let Todd vanish again, for a few years. Then, when he returns, he'll be renewed and he can up-turn the apple carts anew.
It's like coffee and tea. I prefer Trevor's tea to Roger's coffee, but that doesn't stop me from having a frappucino every now and then.
AlistairCrane
11-11-2008, 02:10 PM
Passions' McKenzie Westmore (Sheridan) has a new role on All My Children starting in December.
Meanwhile, Andrea Evans is leaving One Life to Live and the role of Tina, and rumours are swirling that she'll return to the Young and the Restless as Patty Williams.
Ontir
11-11-2008, 02:42 PM
Both Howarth and St. John are very good actors, I just pefer the depth that Howarth's "Todd" had, which is more a function of the writing than the capability of the actors.
Anyone got any info on the "aTWT" question I posted earlier?
AlistairCrane
11-14-2008, 08:10 PM
I'm glad Marty didn't kill Todd---she would've been reduced to a vindictive, vengeance-filled character instead of the complex, multilayered heroine that she is.
Her "reunion" at the end with Cole was sort of the cherry on top for me.
AlistairCrane
11-15-2008, 03:44 PM
According to Variety, Days has been renewed through September 2010, with the option to continue thru September 2011 should certain parameters be met.
Unfortunately, they are also reporting the renewal comes with some cast shake ups. According to Soap Opera Digest Online, Jay K. Johnson (Philip) has packed up his dressing room; and, according to his fan club president, Drake Hogestyn has been fired again.
What once was my favourite show is quickly giving me no reason to watch.
Lord of Denial
11-15-2008, 03:59 PM
According to Variety, Days has been renewed through September 2010, with the option to continue thru September 2011 should certain parameters be met.
Unfortunately, they are also reporting the renewal comes with some cast shake ups. According to Soap Opera Digest Online, Jay K. Johnson (Philip) has packed up his dressing room; and, according to his fan club president, Drake Hogestyn has been fired again.
What once was my favourite show is quickly giving me no reason to watch.
I would have quit over that hair anyway.
Ontir
11-15-2008, 05:14 PM
When was Hogestyn fired last? Why was he fired? If his acting hasn't been enough all these years, I can't imagine what could get him axed.
I loved that show when Kristen was around, especially when she was 3 different characters, but even then I realized that DoOL, more than any other soap relies on every single character lying and/or deceiving every other character. If anyone opened their mouth, and spoke honestly for a maximum of 5 minutes, every plot and machination would unravel.
AlistairCrane
11-15-2008, 10:12 PM
When was Hogestyn fired last? Why was he fired? If his acting hasn't been enough all these years, I can't imagine what could get him axed.
He was fired in October 2007 and John was killed off by the previous writer, who chose not to write for John. But then the ratings went down and the producers back-tracked and said, "We never fired John! It was always our plan to bring him back!", and he was back on screen less than 3 months after his initial firing.
AlistairCrane
11-15-2008, 10:14 PM
I loved that show when Kristen was around, especially when she was 3 different characters, but even then I realized that DoOL, more than any other soap relies on every single character lying and/or deceiving every other character. If anyone opened their mouth, and spoke honestly for a maximum of 5 minutes, every plot and machination would unravel.
Kristen was a fave of mine too (she actually played 5 roles at the end), and I loved how the show was based on schemes and deception. It's not like that anymore, so it's lacking what I find interesting and dynamic in a soap (well, Days in particular). When Passions was on, it was always ahead of Days as my favourite soap, except for the time on Days when Marlena was a serial killer.
Now I really only watch Y&R, but I've been watching OLTL this week to see the Marty/Todd fall-out, and I'll probably keep watching to see what happens when she meets Cole.
Ugoff
11-17-2008, 05:32 PM
All told, it's not THAT bad. He's up and walking without a broken bone. He's damn lucky. I've not heard anything like this since former gay for pay porn star Ryan Idol (Marc Anthony Donnais) turned stage actor fell naked to an NYC sidewalk about 10 years ago, and was fine.
I have an As the World Turns question:
Lucinda is Craig's sister. Katie is Margot's sister. Craig and Katie are siblings. Are Margot and Lucinda related? Can anyone track the sudsy twists of this genealogy?
I don't believe Lucinda and Craig are related. I know for a fact that Margot is related to Katie. Also Craig is perhaps Katie's uncle but they aren't brother/sister. Hm? You might want to check soapcentral.com or soapnet.com for more info.
Ontir
11-17-2008, 11:27 PM
I don't believe Lucinda and Craig are related. I know for a fact that Margot is related to Katie. Also Craig is perhaps Katie's uncle but they aren't brother/sister. Hm? You might want to check soapcentral.com or soapnet.com for more info.
OK, wiki had the answer. Craig is the brother of Margot and Katie. He was Lucinda's lover, as well as her daughter Sierra's ex-husband. Together he and Sierra had Lucy Montgomery. I thought that Craig was the re-cast character that Terry Lester played, after leaving Y&R, who, IIRC was Lucinda's brother. I remember him calling her "Sis."
John & Marlena fans take note: http://www.soapoperadigest.com/news/breaking/
bfrank
11-18-2008, 12:28 PM
OK, wiki had the answer. Craig is the brother of Margot and Katie. He was Lucinda's lover, as well as her daughter Sierra's ex-husband. Together he and Sierra had Lucy Montgomery. I thought that Craig was the re-cast character that Terry Lester played, after leaving Y&R, who, IIRC was Lucinda's brother. I remember him calling her "Sis."
That was royce IIRC......
Ontir
11-20-2008, 01:06 AM
Interesting to see how they've maneuvered the story to allow Luke to have his fling, and still be in a position where Noah will take him back. I've always liked Lawrence Lau, since his days on AMC, and it's nice to see him again. I hope his character has more life than just this affair.
bfrank
11-20-2008, 01:36 PM
Interesting to see how they've maneuvered the story to allow Luke to have his fling, and still be in a position where Noah will take him back. I've always liked Lawrence Lau, since his days on AMC, and it's nice to see him again. I hope his character has more life than just this affair.
You had to see that coming a mile away.
AlistairCrane
11-26-2008, 08:47 PM
What has happened to this thread?!
DEIDRE HALL WAS FIRED FROM DAYS!!!
That is absolutely unbelievable and unaccepable. The show is nothing without Marlena, and Days is going to kill itself now that they've fired John and Marlena.
Ugh.
Ontir
11-26-2008, 10:14 PM
You had to see that coming a mile away.
I didn't actually. I'd have gone for more intense wrath and longing in the aftermath of the affair - if I'd done the affair to begin with. I can't believe Luke is going to cheat on Noah, without ever DOING Noah!
drwho
11-26-2008, 10:40 PM
Has days lost its weirdness? I just remember hearing in the past all this weird stuff going on on the show and it just seems quiet and dont see much talk lately.
The Black Guardian
11-26-2008, 11:09 PM
Anyone catch John Aniston on Worst Week this week? It was a small part, but the character was just as sly as Victor is with the ladies. He played a chauffeur who immediately hits it off with the grandmother and ends up getting busy in the limo.
I dunno. I think Days should always have a lot of weird. I miss Calliope and Eugene.
Has days lost its weirdness? I just remember hearing in the past all this weird stuff going on on the show and it just seems quiet and dont see much talk lately.
Most of the weirdness died with James E Reilley.
AlistairCrane
11-27-2008, 06:20 AM
Has days lost its weirdness? I just remember hearing in the past all this weird stuff going on on the show and it just seems quiet and dont see much talk lately.
Storyline-wise, yes, and it's not working for the show, but behind the scenes, they are f---ed. What idiot would fire Drake Hogestyn and Deidre Effin' Hall?!
Storyline-wise, yes, and it's not working for the show, but behind the scenes, they are f---ed. What idiot would fire Drake Hogestyn and Deidre Effin' Hall?!
An idiot who has to beg the network to renew the show each year, at the cost of getting his budget cut every time.
Ontir
11-27-2008, 10:48 AM
In terms of actors who are in their fifties/sixties, they also don't continue to draw the same way. Yes, there's the history of the Soap Grand Dame, but they can re-create that in another character. In the case of "Days," I think it's going to be Sammi.
AlistairCrane
11-27-2008, 12:55 PM
In terms of actors who are in their fifties/sixties, they also don't continue to draw the same way. Yes, there's the history of the Soap Grand Dame, but they can re-create that in another character. In the case of "Days," I think it's going to be Sammi.
...except the audience, for the most part, hates Sami. The ratings reflect this, since most of the stories revolve around her.
John, Marlena, Bo, and Hope are the draws of the show. THEY are the reason people tune in. No one watches to see Sami and the newbies like Rafe, Melanie, Max, Nick, Stephanie, etc.
AlistairCrane
11-27-2008, 08:17 PM
Interesting soap opera tidbit: Did you know The Young and the Restless, The Bold and the Beautiful, As The World Turns, Guiding Light, and the defunct Another World take place in the same fictional universe?
Guiding Light's Mike Bauer crossed over to Another World.
Another World's Jake, Vicki, Cass, and others crossed over to As The World Turns.
As The World Turn's Emily and Alison crossed over to The Young and The Restless, and Y&R's Michael Baldwin crossed over to ATWT.
And most famously, Y&R's Lauren and Sheila crossed over to B&B, along with Brad, Scott Grainger, Molly Carter, Dr. Tim Reid, Joanna Manning, Victor, Kay, Cricket, Jack, Ashley, and Traci. B&B's Eric, Amber, James Warwick, Felicia and Brooke have appeared on Y&R.
The Black Guardian
11-27-2008, 09:15 PM
...except the audience, for the most part, hates Sami. The ratings reflect this, since most of the stories revolve around her.
John, Marlena, Bo, and Hope are the draws of the show. THEY are the reason people tune in. No one watches to see Sami and the newbies like Rafe, Melanie, Max, Nick, Stephanie, etc.
I don't think it's Sami that the audience hates, but the incessantly bad stories that revolve around her.
Interesting soap opera tidbit: Did you know The Young and the Restless, The Bold and the Beautiful, As The World Turns, Guiding Light, and the defunct Another World take place in the same fictional universe?
Guiding Light's Mike Bauer crossed over to Another World.
Another World's Jake, Vicki, Cass, and others crossed over to As The World Turns.
As The World Turn's Emily and Alison crossed over to The Young and The Restless, and Y&R's Michael Baldwin crossed over to ATWT.
And most famously, Y&R's Lauren and Sheila crossed over to B&B, along with Brad, Scott Grainger, Molly Carter, Dr. Tim Reid, Joanna Manning, Victor, Kay, Cricket, Jack, Ashley, and Traci. B&B's Eric, Amber, James Warwick, Felicia and Brooke have appeared on Y&R.
Yup. The GL/AW crossover was the first soap crossover, ever. The shows are/were part of the Procter & Gamble-verse.
Also, Somerset, Texas, Lovers & Friends (aka For Richer, For Poorer) were spinoffs (the latter, indirectly) of AW.
I really miss AW.
AlistairCrane
11-27-2008, 10:23 PM
I don't think it's Sami that the audience hates, but the incessantly bad stories that revolve around her.
People like me still hate Sami for all that shit she pulled on Carrie.
...except the audience, for the most part, hates Sami. The ratings reflect this, since most of the stories revolve around her.
John, Marlena, Bo, and Hope are the draws of the show. THEY are the reason people tune in. No one watches to see Sami and the newbies like Rafe, Melanie, Max, Nick, Stephanie, etc.
I don't think it's Sami that the audience hates, but the incessantly bad stories that revolve around her.
Yup. The GL/AW crossover was the first soap crossover, ever. The shows are/were part of the Procter & Gamble-verse.
Also, Somerset, Texas, Lovers & Friends (aka For Richer, For Poorer) were spinoffs (the latter, indirectly) of AW.
I really miss AW.
I could take Sami and Lucas together, but I hate the whole story with E.J. I was a longtime AW fan too.
People like me still hate Sami for all that shit she pulled on Carrie.
I hated Austin during his final run. I hated the fact that he kept his hands "clean" by letting Kate, Sami and Nicole handle his business deals; while never bothering to find out who actually ran Carrie's company. He then told her that it was her mismanagement that sank the company, and even blamed Lucas for not warning him. He then slept with Carrie the day she married Lucas, but blamed Lucas again.
Frank
11-29-2008, 03:32 AM
Alright, who watches The Bold & The Beautiful.
AlistairCrane
11-29-2008, 12:50 PM
Alright, who watches The Bold & The Beautiful.
I don't, BUT I did tune in on Tuesday to see Ashley call Eric. I'm a sucker for crossovers!
Ontir
11-29-2008, 06:12 PM
...except the audience, for the most part, hates Sami. The ratings reflect this, since most of the stories revolve around her.
They seem to be going to great lengths to re-hab Sami right now. They've got that guy from "Passions" as "the one man who can handle her..." and it looks like they're going to have love save her.
Ontir
11-29-2008, 06:14 PM
Interesting soap opera tidbit: Did you know The Young and the Restless, The Bold and the Beautiful, As The World Turns, Guiding Light, and the defunct Another World take place in the same fictional universe?
Guiding Light's Mike Bauer crossed over to Another World.
Another World's Jake, Vicki, Cass, and others crossed over to As The World Turns.
As The World Turn's Emily and Alison crossed over to The Young and The Restless, and Y&R's Michael Baldwin crossed over to ATWT.
And most famously, Y&R's Lauren and Sheila crossed over to B&B, along with Brad, Scott Grainger, Molly Carter, Dr. Tim Reid, Joanna Manning, Victor, Kay, Cricket, Jack, Ashley, and Traci. B&B's Eric, Amber, James Warwick, Felicia and Brooke have appeared on Y&R.
All of the first shows you mentioned are Procter & Gamble productions. The last two are Bell Productions, and all but one are CBS. ABC has had characters cross over from "AMC" to "OLtL" and "GH." Most notably Linda Dano as the mother of "Sky Chandler."
Legato
11-29-2008, 06:19 PM
All of the first shows you mentioned are Procter & Gamble productions. The last two are Bell Productions, and all but one are CBS. ABC has had characters cross over from "AMC" to "OLtL" and "GH." Most notably Linda Dano as the mother of "Sky Chandler."
Speaking of GH anyone got any confirmation on if the actor who plays Sonny is really leaving GH?
AlistairCrane
11-29-2008, 07:35 PM
All of the first shows you mentioned are Procter & Gamble productions. The last two are Bell Productions, and all but one are CBS. ABC has had characters cross over from "AMC" to "OLtL" and "GH." Most notably Linda Dano as the mother of "Sky Chandler."
Yes, the P&G connection is what allowed characters on NBC's Another World to appear on CBS' As The World Turns. But the interesting thing is that the P&G shows take place in the same world as the Bell shows. What's wild is that Y&R takes place in the same fictional world as AW, which had that supernatural-esque Lumina story.
And yep, the ABC shows have had tons of crossovers, dating back to at least the Karen Wolek trial in the 70s.
AlistairCrane
11-29-2008, 07:36 PM
They seem to be going to great lengths to re-hab Sami right now. They've got that guy from "Passions" as "the one man who can handle her..." and it looks like they're going to have love save her.
Yeah, and it's stupid. Sami belongs with Lucas, we all know this. Anyway, I gave up watching Days ages ago because the show has turned to crap. I will tune in for John and Marlena's last episode, and that for me will be the Days series finale.
Ontir
11-29-2008, 07:55 PM
Yes, the P&G connection is what allowed characters on NBC's Another World to appear on CBS' As The World Turns. But the interesting thing is that the P&G shows take place in the same world as the Bell shows. What's wild is that Y&R takes place in the same fictional world as AW, which had that supernatural-esque Lumina story.
And yep, the ABC shows have had tons of crossovers, dating back to at least the Karen Wolek trial in the 70s.
I think the Bell/P&G connection can be largely linked to the fact that all of the shows (now that "AW" is defunct) are on CBS.
"GH" had an alien and its spin-off "Port Charles" had vampires, a super-hero and other super-natural elements and they are all connected to the other shows. Not to mention that Thorsten Kaye who was "Patrick Thornhart" on "OLtL" as one character, then played "Dr. Ian Thornhart" on "Port Charles," then became "Zack Slater" on "AMC."
AlistairCrane
11-29-2008, 08:29 PM
I think the Bell/P&G connection can be largely linked to the fact that all of the shows (now that "AW" is defunct) are on CBS.
"GH" had an alien and its spin-off "Port Charles" had vampires, a super-hero and other super-natural elements and they are all connected to the other shows. Not to mention that Thorsten Kaye who was "Patrick Thornhart" on "OLtL" as one character, then played "Dr. Ian Thornhart" on "Port Charles," then became "Zack Slater" on "AMC."
It's debatable whether PC is still considered canon by the mothership.
Ontir
11-29-2008, 09:58 PM
It has to be, because Scotty Baldwin's "PC" continuity, including the death of his daughter Karen, is still a part of the character when he is on "GH."
Yeah, and it's stupid. Sami belongs with Lucas, we all know this. Anyway, I gave up watching Days ages ago because the show has turned to crap. I will tune in for John and Marlena's last episode, and that for me will be the Days series finale.
Indeed. It was bad enough that Sami and Lucas were torn apart for EJ, but now to pair her off with Luis from Passions?
As for a series finale... Days will renegotiate with NBC in the spring.
Nate Grey
11-30-2008, 03:40 AM
Speaking of GH anyone got any confirmation on if the actor who plays Sonny is really leaving GH?
This is what I'd like to know. Seems too good to be true.
It has to be, because Scotty Baldwin's "PC" continuity, including the death of his daughter Karen, is still a part of the character when he is on "GH."
Wasn't Karen revealed to be an angel after her death on PC? That's got retconned back into her being an actual person who died on GH?
AlistairCrane
11-30-2008, 11:51 AM
Indeed. It was bad enough that Sami and Lucas were torn apart for EJ, but now to pair her off with Luis from Passions?
As for a series finale... Days will renegotiate with NBC in the spring.
Days was renewed through September 2010 (thus the current budget cuts), but as far as I'm concerned, John and Marlena's last episode is my series finale.
Ontir
11-30-2008, 07:36 PM
This is what I'd like to know. Seems too good to be true.
LOVE the actor, OVER the character!!!
Wasn't Karen revealed to be an angel after her death on PC? That's got retconned back into her being an actual person who died on GH?
I, like most people, wasn't watching "PC" @ that time, so I can't say.
I think the problem ABC had, was that they made a mistake when "PC" was created. The hospital portion of the show should've been given the half-hour slot and called "General Hospital," while the full-hour show, which has long ago moved beyond the hospital property line should've been re-titled "Port Charles." It would've served the hour show better, and given the half-hour a stronger identity.
Nate Grey
11-30-2008, 08:00 PM
LOVE the actor, OVER the character!!!
I liked him as Niko Kelly, so I'll give him that much.
I, like most people, wasn't watching "PC" @ that time, so I can't say.
I saw the show from beginning to end. After the whole Caleb scenario (Michael Easton became PC's Sonny with as much as the show focused on him once he debuted), it quickly became vampires vs vampire hunters, and then...angels. It got weird and stupid.
I think the problem ABC had, was that they made a mistake when "PC" was created. The hospital portion of the show should've been given the half-hour slot and called "General Hospital," while the full-hour show, which has long ago moved beyond the hospital property line should've been re-titled "Port Charles." It would've served the hour show better, and given the half-hour a stronger identity.
No, actually I think they did everything right except for changing it to sci-fi / fantasy. But I think you have a point as far as name recognition, and they seem to have learned that lesson with General Hospital: Night Shift. I haven't seen a single ep (I have satellite and Soapnet isn't one of the channels. :frown: ) but it seems to be well loved by GH fans. Not to mention, sometimes, a spinoff needs to have characters from the parent show as REGULARS to get it started. Patrick, Robin and I guess Jason seem to be regulars, so, you have characters folks are familiar with as a bridge to the new characters. PC had, what, Audrey? Alan every once in a blue moon? Sonny popped up once or twice but that was it.
Max Superior
12-01-2008, 06:32 PM
I DESPISE the character of Nicole Walker. I HATE her getting screentime. It's bad enough I don't get enough Stephanie or Chloe but Nicole and her lying antics about the baby is getting pushed hard now? What is up with Days and their love affair for this horrible character? Thank GOODNESS Craig Montgomery is coming back to ATWT this week....need something to expunge the Nicole lovefest they got on NBC.
I don't think it's Sami that the audience hates, but the incessantly bad stories that revolve around her.
The thing about Sami is she's an insult to your intelligence...Lucas tried to KILL her. Kate and Lucas let her take the blame for Franco Kelly's murder back in 2000 and somehow Lucas and Sami are soulmates?! Kate should be rotting in prison and they ALWAYS let her come out of these stories untouched...same thing with Lucas. He should be rotting away...Sami too. She acts so judgemental and has ton of attitudes with the DiMeras but she's done things to her sister and mother that are beyond forgiveness. And what's up with this pretty boy doctor they push down throats? What's his name? Daniel? The one that's Victor's God son or something..this guy is A JOKE. Gets an attitude with anyone who questions him and is hooking up with a granddaughter and grandmother? Just a horrible character and they push him hard as hell too. It's terrible. Best new character that is interesting is this Melianie brat.
Ontir
12-01-2008, 09:28 PM
The thing about "Days," is that there isn't a single character who has had a REAL storyline in about a decade, who isn't worthy of a major criminal conviction. The most shining pinnacles have done some pretty horrible things, either in lying about someone, or refusing to do the right thing so that an evil can be prevented. Self-absorption is the raison d'ętre for pretty much every character.
"AtWT" was interesting in regards to the Luke/Noah/Brian story. I hope they stop pouring the booze down Luke's throat though. He got his warning today, and should've realized it, but later in the ep, he's drinking again. I'm hoping they let the seduction get steamy. I'm hoping though that if Luke goes for it, it's to prove to everyone that Lucinda can't trust her husband, and not because he falls for it. Granted, it's still messed up, but I want Luke to be (a flawed) good guy. More in the Carly vein.
My mother stopped watching Days during that "Colleen and Santo" crap. She couldn't believe that they'd bring Doug & Julie back only to waste them by reading those stupid letters.
The Black Guardian
12-02-2008, 01:44 PM
I DESPISE the character of Nicole Walker. I HATE her getting screentime. It's bad enough I don't get enough Stephanie or Chloe but Nicole and her lying antics about the baby is getting pushed hard now? What is up with Days and their love affair for this horrible character? Thank GOODNESS Craig Montgomery is coming back to ATWT this week....need something to expunge the Nicole lovefest they got on NBC.
I love Nicole. I love her snarky humour and scheming ways.
The thing about Sami is she's an insult to your intelligence...Lucas tried to KILL her. Kate and Lucas let her take the blame for Franco Kelly's murder back in 2000 and somehow Lucas and Sami are soulmates?! Kate should be rotting in prison and they ALWAYS let her come out of these stories untouched...same thing with Lucas. He should be rotting away...Sami too. She acts so judgemental and has ton of attitudes with the DiMeras but she's done things to her sister and mother that are beyond forgiveness.
These are the reasons I'm not a Lucas-Sami shipper. But I think EJ-Sami was even worse. As for Kate, I like the character.
And what's up with this pretty boy doctor they push down throats? What's his name? Daniel? The one that's Victor's God son or something..this guy is A JOKE. Gets an attitude with anyone who questions him and is hooking up with a granddaughter and grandmother? Just a horrible character and they push him hard as hell too. It's terrible.
Yeah.
Best new character that is interesting is this Melianie brat.
I agree here.
The thing about "Days," is that there isn't a single character who has had a REAL storyline in about a decade, who isn't worthy of a major criminal conviction. The most shining pinnacles have done some pretty horrible things, either in lying about someone, or refusing to do the right thing so that an evil can be prevented. Self-absorption is the raison d'ętre for pretty much every character.
This isn't necessarily a bad thing, imo.
Ontir
12-03-2008, 04:28 PM
"Craig Montgomery" returned today, but now he's being played by "GH/Port Charles" alum Jon Lindstrom (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0512455/). I think he'll be an interesting addition to "AtWT," as he's got a good deal of experience playing psycho.
Luke, poor Luke, this time, in terms of today's writing. He was maneuvered into the most obvious and obnoxious situation, not so much because of character, but just of lazy writing.
bfrank
12-03-2008, 07:57 PM
"Craig Montgomery" returned today, but now he's being played by "GH/Port Charles" alum Jon Lindstrom (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0512455/). I think he'll be an interesting addition to "AtWT," as he's got a good deal of experience playing psycho.
Luke, poor Luke, this time, in terms of today's writing. He was maneuvered into the most obvious and obnoxious situation, not so much because of character, but just of lazy writing.
I wonder how long it will take Katie to put 2 and 2 together re: Dani and Craig. She has to know that at one point he thought Dani was his kid.........
AlistairCrane
12-03-2008, 08:06 PM
Y&R has been amazing lately, what with the Jabot stockholders meeting and all. Ooh the intrigue and the bitchslaps! This is the show to watch right now. And they're bringing back Cricket!!! If they reunite her with Danny and then bring back Nina full time, I'll be able to die happy.
bfrank
12-03-2008, 09:12 PM
Ash is back! They never should have gotten rid of her in the first place.....and I'm not going to acknowledge her time on B&B at all....
Poor Jack! Dude can never catch a break....Yeah I know he brings it on his self, but that bitch Gloria is still running around free after causing that woman's death. I hope that story line is finally put to rest.
Jill! You got what you deserved! Yeah billy's a dick, but what'd you expect when you made the bar tender CEO, overlooking your other son, who has actual experience.....
I hate Kevin and Michael, the arsonist and the rapist....Get Lauren away from him and kill them off....
And do something about Paul's annoying ass daughter too!
Shit's gonna hit the fan when that old thief tries to pawn Katherine's ring....
Finally, I hope Amber's the one to knock some respect into Jill....Ok, she's your mother, but the people you're insulting actually gave a shit about her.....Phylis, you reap what you sow, and I can't wait for this to blow up in your face, you big hypocrite.....
AlistairCrane
12-03-2008, 10:15 PM
Wow, we have totally different opinions on Y&R!
I love Heather, and I hope she kicks Adam to the curb when she learns the extent to which he's deceived her. But I do want Adam to succeed in bringing down Vic, at least for a little bit.
And I want Phyllis to get revenge on that two-timing bitch Sharon. Sharon's a husband-stealing snake!
Actually, that's all I disagree with. haha
Ontir
12-03-2008, 11:14 PM
Ash is back! They never should have gotten rid of her in the first place.....and I'm not going to acknowledge her time on B&B at all...[/b]
I can't stand "B&B."
Jill! You got what you deserved! Yeah billy's a dick, but what'd you expect when you made the bar tender CEO, overlooking your other son, who has actual experience...
I saw the build-up, but not the actual floor show. I knew Billy was a snake from when he was helping Jack years ago. He's loyal to his brother, because of their farther, and he's as devious as Jack - watch out Jack!
I hate Kevin and Michael, the arsonist and the rapist...Get Lauren away from him and kill them off...
I really like both Kevin and Michael, and their transformations have been well crafted. It's good to see that people can have horrible pasts, where they've done dreadful things, and still emerge better and able to do some good in the world. Now Michael is better at that than his brother, who is still struggling at times, but even Kevin is making great progress. Actually, he'd be much better off if someone would push Gloria off a cliff.
BTW: as much as I love the actress who plays Gloria, given the new husband, I wish Joan Van Ark had stayed, it would've been great to see that pairing again.
And do something about Paul's annoying ass daughter too!
She just never really worked.
Finally, I hope Amber's the one to knock some respect into Jill...Ok, she's your mother, but the people you're insulting actually gave a shit about her...Phylis, you reap what you sow, and I can't wait for this to blow up in your face, you big hypocrite...
I like Amber, she's the new Nikki. What's Phyllis up to these days? Does she have something to do with Tyra losing her kid?
I can't blame Sharon for wanting Nick back, and Phyllis can't be too upset over stolen goods being stolen back!
Over on As the World Turns, I don't think it's going to be too long before Katie has all the pieces, and Margot won't be too far behind her. Wait a minute, it's a soap, Margot is going to be in the dark for MONTHS!
bfrank
12-04-2008, 10:51 AM
Wow, we have totally different opinions on Y&R!
I love Heather, and I hope she kicks Adam to the curb when she learns the extent to which he's deceived her. But I do want Adam to succeed in bringing down Vic, at least for a little bit.
She's so stiff! RECAST!
And I want Phyllis to get revenge on that two-timing bitch Sharon. Sharon's a husband-stealing snake!
Revenge? Um, you do know Phyllis's history right? and that he was married to Sharron when he and phyllis hooked up? I still want Phyllis to suffer for run in's with cricket oh so long ago.....
Phyllis is the third biggest bitch on the show....Right behind Jill and Gloria!
bfrank
12-04-2008, 10:56 AM
I like Amber, she's the new Nikki. What's Phyllis up to these days? Does she have something to do with Tyra losing her kid?
Phyllis is still Phyllis, but she didn't have anything to do with Tyra (lol) and Anna.....Yolanda, the crack head, wants her baby back.....
Speaking of which, Oliva used to be so damn fine.....and I'm glad that nate is finally close in age to his younger cousin, lily (lol)......
I can't blame Sharon for wanting Nick back, and Phyllis can't be too upset over stolen goods being stolen back!
Ding Ding Ding!
Over on As the World Turns, I don't think it's going to be too long before Katie has all the pieces, and Margot won't be too far behind her. Wait a minute, it's a soap, Margot is going to be in the dark for MONTHS!
I knew craig wouldn't be far behind, as soon as she came back.....why don't the people of oakdale have as good a memory???
AlistairCrane
12-04-2008, 11:18 AM
She's so stiff! RECAST!
Revenge? Um, you do know Phyllis's history right? and that he was married to Sharron when he and phyllis hooked up? I still want Phyllis to suffer for run in's with cricket oh so long ago.....
Phyllis is the third biggest bitch on the show....Right behind Jill and Gloria!
I know all about Phyllis. I only hated her when she broke up Danny and Cricket. But I think Sharon is a sanctimonious bitch (don't forget, she cheated on Nick with Brad!), and the diva needs to be brought down a beg or four.
As for Heather, I think she's awesome in the role.
bfrank
12-04-2008, 11:53 AM
I know all about Phyllis. I only hated her when she broke up Danny and Cricket. But I think Sharon is a sanctimonious bitch (don't forget, she cheated on Nick with Brad!), and the diva needs to be brought down a beg or four.
As for Heather, I think she's awesome in the role.
We'll just have to agree to disagree, on those two.....
Chole, Gloria, Phyllis, Adam....I've a feeling that they all are going to get what's coming to them!
AlistairCrane
12-04-2008, 12:03 PM
I insist on calling Chloe Kate because she's such a horrid bitch.
But you know once they "get what's coming to them", they will just turn around and get their way again!
bfrank
12-04-2008, 12:16 PM
I insist on calling Chloe Kate because she's such a horrid bitch.
But you know once they "get what's coming to them", they will just turn around and get their way again!
Such is the nature of a soap....save for Victor Newman.......
Ugoff
12-04-2008, 12:25 PM
Y&R has been getting better but I'm kinda disappointed in the Tyra/Ann/Winters family storyline. It feels so cliched and unnessecary right now. I am enjoying Kay's storyline but I hope she gets her memory back soon. This shouldn't drag out for 2 months. I have to admit I want Phil and Nick to stay together. But every relationship needs a little drama. I was watching B&B months ago but I truly beileve I'm done with it now.
Ontir
12-04-2008, 10:38 PM
Phyllis is the third biggest bitch on the show....Right behind Jill and Gloria!
Yeah, but the actress is great and I LOVE Phyllis!!! :tongue:
AlistairCrane
12-05-2008, 12:17 PM
According to the Suds Report at tvguide.ca:
Maurice Benard has re-signed with the soap as mob boss Sonny Corinthos, confirms GH. “We are thrilled Maurice will be staying on the GH canvas for the foreseeable future,” says a rep. Also, Sarah Brown, who has no chance at winning a fourth Emmy with the material she’s being given in 2008, has re-upped with the show as well as for another year. Boy, times must be tough.
Legato
12-05-2008, 02:36 PM
According to the Suds Report at tvguide.ca:
Maurice Benard has re-signed with the soap as mob boss Sonny Corinthos, confirms GH. “We are thrilled Maurice will be staying on the GH canvas for the foreseeable future,” says a rep. Also, Sarah Brown, who has no chance at winning a fourth Emmy with the material she’s being given in 2008, has re-upped with the show as well as for another year. Boy, times must be tough.
Well he is pretty much the only guy that has carried the show as it seems. I mean Jason is good but the head guys from GH probably think he isn't interesting enough to take the spotlight just incase Sonny does leave.
I would like to see some actual police involvement in the show. Lately it is nothing but the Mob doing the dirty work while the cops are sitting on their hands and cleaning up after Jason or Sonny. Judging how the cops are handling things no wonder every mafia boss is moving to Port Charles.
Ontir
12-05-2008, 03:59 PM
I'd like to see the evolution of a "gone legit" Sonny being a force in Port Charles that eventually ends up on the same side as Max Scorpio.
New Craig is going to be a lot of fun!
Legato
12-05-2008, 04:30 PM
I'd like to see the evolution of a "gone legit" Sonny being a force in Port Charles that eventually ends up on the same side as Max Scorpio.
New Craig is going to be a lot of fun!
I want to see Max given more screen time and Sonny siding with the police would be a interesting storyline. Im liking that atleast Jason and Sonny's mob lifestyle isn't being looked on in a glamorous light to some people in Port Charles.
Ontir
12-05-2008, 05:05 PM
There have always been people who looked down upon Sonny and Jason, but usually they were Edward Quartermaine, who is so morally bankrupt (though I LOVE that character) that Sonny was a paragon in comparison. :tongue:
The flip-side, of course, was that Luke & Laura allied themselves with Sonny, because he was the enemy of their enemy and when THE super-couple of daytime likes you, you're made!
Legato
12-05-2008, 05:53 PM
There have always been people who looked down upon Sonny and Jason, but usually they were Edward Quartermaine, who is so morally bankrupt (though I LOVE that character) that Sonny was a paragon in comparison. :tongue:
The flip-side, of course, was that Luke & Laura allied themselves with Sonny, because he was the enemy of their enemy and when THE super-couple of daytime likes you, you're made!
Wasn't Sonny introduced as a villain at one time? I remember the original concept was for him to be the bad guy when he debuted
Ontir
12-05-2008, 06:19 PM
Yeah, he was getting Karen Wexler hooked on drugs and stripping in his club, but I think ti was the "Smith" story culminating with the return of Luke & Laura that made him the mobster with a heart of gold.
Ontir
12-08-2008, 03:57 PM
Jeff Branson, once "Jonathan Lavery" of "AMC" is now the new "Shayne Lewis" on "Guiding Light."
bfrank
12-12-2008, 01:47 PM
I'm all for Gloria getting her just desserts, but Jeffrey is a monster!!!
Ontir
12-12-2008, 07:19 PM
It's a sort of "devil you know" scenario.
Ontir
12-28-2008, 09:22 PM
Most shows are cutting back on character count and cutting salaries as well. I don't know what anyone at As the World Turns is making, but in the past few months, alongside Jack's new wife and niece/step-daughter, they've brought "Dusty," "Craig," his love interest/mighta been daughter, "Casey," "Maddie," "Jade," and now "Lucy" and "Johnny." That's a hell of a lot of add-ons when most shows are cutting back!
Most shows are cutting back on character count and cutting salaries as well. I don't know what anyone at As the World Turns is making, but in the past few months, alongside Jack's new wife and niece/step-daughter, they've brought "Dusty," "Craig," his love interest/mighta been daughter, "Casey," "Maddie," "Jade," and now "Lucy" and "Johnny." That's a hell of a lot of add-ons when most shows are cutting back!
These names sound like they're younger characters. Some soaps think flooding the show with young people boosts ratings.
My problem with Dats is that they've kind of blurred the lines between young people in their late 20s, college studets, and teens.
Ontir
12-29-2008, 11:11 AM
These names sound like they're younger characters. Some soaps think flooding the show with young people boosts ratings.
My problem with Dats is that they've kind of blurred the lines between young people in their late 20s, college studets, and teens.
Craig is in his late 40's to early 50's.
Dusty is in his 40's, at least.
The one that Craig once though was his daughter, now love interest is in her mid to late 20's.
Lucy, Craig's daughter, is in her 30's, because she's an MD, and has been for several years.
Casie & Maddie are the same age as Luke and Noah, College Freshmen. Jade may be a year or so older.
Johnny is 3 or 4.
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