Can we PLEASE get Frog-Man back!!!???

[FrogMan]

Please. We haven't seen him since 1991 for cryin out loud. I need me some froggy.

(Not including the out of continuity Tangled Web story. Blah)

[Harlock]

You might try writing Marvel or posting on some creator boards...

[FrogMan]

I have. They never answer me. :(

[Agentum]

What is so good with this character?

[FrogMan]

He's fun and funny. Plus, he used to pop up every once in awhile and those were some of my favorite comics.

Have every appearance except the Damage Control one.

He's kind of a "what getting a super suit would REALLY be like" kind of character.

[Crimson]

Frog-Man and his son were in Spider-Man Tangled Web #12 in 2002.

Edit: Just saw the thing in brackets. How do you know it's out of continuity?

[Dark Soul # 7]

Please. We haven't seen him since 1991 for cryin out loud. I need me some froggy.

(Not including the out of continuity Tangled Web story. Blah)No, he´s a rather useless character. Except for that Tangled Web story. That was my favorite Frogman-story.

[FrogMan]

Edit: Just saw the thing in brackets. How do you know it's out of continuity?

Just read it. It's obviously not in-continuity.

Frog-Man useless???? That's part of his charm, my friend.

[Goldenbane]

Just read it. It's obviously not in-continuity.

Frog-Man useless???? That's part of his charm, my friend.

Bah, don't listen to Dark Soul #7. "Frogman is useless but my Avatar is a picture of the 'Marvel Zombie' storyline." What was that about people in glass houses? :D

Anyway, Frogman is a god. He needs to return in some shape or form and team up with Grizzly, Gibbin, and Razorback to take on the Legion of Losers, joined by White Rabbit and Walrus. Spidey could appear as the bombastic Bagman. That would be the awesomest story ever written to date!!!

[phantom1592]

He's mentioned in Daredevil, DOn't know the issue number but it was before the "outing". It was a four part story that should have been told in one (thinking it was Bendis)

It didn't even have daredevil in it, but dealt with Ben Urich and LeapFrogs kid.

I think they implied that LF was killed. Don't really remember, and I refuse to reread it :)

[Sean McQuaid]

A few things of note...

1) Frog-Man gets a multi-page entry in the latest ALL-NEW OFFICIAL HANDBOOK OF THE MARVEL UNIVERSE A-Z (with lots of info about his dad Leap-Frog, too).

2) The handbook profile does its best to reconcile the TANGLED WEB story with the rest of Frog-Man continuity to some extent.

3) The dead Leap-Frog from DAREDVIL gets a nod, too.

-Sean

[FrogMan]

What does it say about the Tangled Web storyline? And what does it say about Vinnie Patilio (Froggy's dad). (I'd wait and read myself, but my comic shop hasn't even gotten my issue 3 of OHOTMU yet. :()

And which issues of Daredevil are these? I heard there was a new Leap-Frog that dies in some DD issues, but that he had absolutely nothing to do with Frog-Man (except for possibly stealing one of the frog-suits).

[Sean McQuaid]

What does it say about the Tangled Web storyline? And what does it say about Vinnie Patilio (Froggy's dad).

Basically it tries to reconcile the TANGLED WEB story with established continuity as much as possible. As for what the profile says about Vinnie, it's basically a double profile, with full bio/history/power into on both father and son.


And which issues of Daredevil are these? I heard there was a new Leap-Frog that dies in some DD issues, but that he had absolutely nothing to do with Frog-Man (except for possibly stealing one of the frog-suits).

That other Frog-Man turned up in Daredevil #19, 2001. And yeah, apart from ripping off one of the frog suits, he didn't really have anything to do with the other frog-folk.

-Sean

[FrogMan]

Basically it tries to reconcile the TANGLED WEB story with established continuity as much as possible.

-Sean
I'd like to know how that's possible?

[Petertime]

J.M. Demattis (sp?) wrote an great story about Peter going to Frogman's home for dinner.
It was the first time I had ever heard of the character...and I loved him (and his dad)

Years later, at a friend's cottage I came across another, much older comic (Marvel Team up maybe?) that had spidey and Frogman together (and if I recall tham correctly, Demattis wrote that one too) Awesome stuff. Just a joy to read.

Its characters like him that I love.
One day, (after every major hero has his blockbuster studio film made), IU am going to convince marvel to let me make a movie about Frogman....or Slapstick (remember him?)

[FrogMan]

I read the profile in MUH and really didn't see any mention of the TANGLED WEB storyline.

And yeah, I remember Slapstick. I've started numerous threads about getting him, Frog-Man, Steel Spider and a few other "loser" characters on the same team, basically reforming the Misfits (originally Frog-Man Steel Spider, then known as Spider-Kid, and the Toad).

[phantom1592]

One day, (after every major hero has his blockbuster studio film made), IU am going to convince marvel to let me make a movie about Frogman....or Slapstick (remember him?)


I'm trying to decide if slapstick would make a decent movie, or a TV series. If it was a movie, it would be endlessly compared to the MASK (not always a bad thing), A Cartoon would "fit" it more, but you could get lost in the Tex Avery/Looney toons comparisons.....

[FrogMan]

Slapstick would be cool as a TV series.

BRING BACK FROG-MAN!!!

)

[DBZ MAN]

Why bring a character back that has no originality. It was cool when they started like, 'Batman' and 'Spider-man'. But now? C'mon give it a rest, next you'll have 'Marsupial-man' or crocodile man' Enough I say!:mad:

[FrogMan]

Bring back Frog-Man, I say!

:D

[phantom1592]

Why bring a character back that has no originality. It was cool when they started like, 'Batman' and 'Spider-man'. But now? C'mon give it a rest, next you'll have 'Marsupial-man' or crocodile man' Enough I say!:mad:


I always wonder where they decided to draw the *man line. Spider=cool, Bat=Cool, Plastic=cool, Frog=not cool, Hawk=cool....

[FrogMan]

Guess what, ppl? Frog-Man is NOT SUPPOSED TO BE COOL. He's supposed to be a joke character!!

yeesh

[Haunt]

I always wonder where they decided to draw the *man line. Spider=cool, Bat=Cool, Plastic=cool, Frog=not cool, Hawk=cool....

well that's simple. Spiderman could kick your ***. Batman could kick your ***. Frogman's a pasty fat red-headed high schooler who probably gets winded after every jump. seriously, what were they thinking? i could have designed a better Frogman.

[FrogMan]

joke character

[Haunt]

joke character

does the Marvel Universe really have room for joke characters? aren't they, inherently, canon fodder-in-waiting? i just think there's a difference between a joke character and a character who, literally, a joke. they have to have some legitimacy. Deadpool's a joke character, imo. but he's also cool. SheHulk's another one who is just an odd fit in the Marvel Universe. but she works. she fits. i can't say the same for Frog-Man, Dr Bong, or NFL Superpro. there's something about them that reminds me of that movie at the video store that i've never rented and never will.

[BeastieRunner]

I would rather see the Spot. Seriously. If I want real life superheroes, I'll read Watchmen. Frog-man lacked a flare to him but Spot had a spark to him.

[Venom]

A lot of Spider-Man joke characters haven't been used in years. I respect that you want your favourite character to come back just like any dedicated fan would, but Marvel just don't have any plans for him at the moment so Frog-Man's stuck in the world of comic book limbo for now.

[kudlaty_true]

I would rather see the Spot. Seriously. If I want real life superheroes, I'll read Watchmen. Frog-man lacked a flare to him but Spot had a spark to him.
Hey hey, wait a minute. Spot (when he appeared for the first time), was kick-ass villain. He was supposed to be very smart (a scientist, after all), have the most original teleportation power of all spaceshifters, he's only problem was lack of strength. He totally make Spider-man wonder "HOW will I beat him". When he finally did, Spot vanished for a long while. He vanished from comics with POTENTIAL! A thing, that veeery small count of characters have now days. Potential of really good return. Then a few years later he appeared (somewhere along years 96-97) with the Legion of loosers. Then I was like: "WHAT? How can marvel do this to such cool character! Really!" They totally blew him off. They've taken his intelligence, he's dumb as a log. He has not learned how to better control his powers, nothing.
My only hope, that Bendis and Bagley do something cool out of him. (And not in the ringer kind of way:))

[BeastieRunner]

Hey hey, wait a minute. Spot (when he appeared for the first time), was kick-ass villain.

Yeah I know he was. That's why I want him back because he's so awesome.

[DBZ MAN]

But please don't bring him back in the 616 universe. Otherwise whats the point of killing off characters in the first place.

[kudlaty_true]

Wait, what, the Spot is dead?

[Petertime]

Hey hey, wait a minute. Spot (when he appeared for the first time), was kick-ass villain.

I totally agree. While I enjoyed the Legion of losers story, but i was surprised to see Spot in there.
I recall really liking his first appearance...though I'm going to have to go back and reread it cause I barely remember it now.

He could have been one of those villians that was pretty cool if he had just been left alone and used from time to time (he was never going to be an arch-nemesis).

[Haunt]

the Spot has a really lame costume. maybe that's why the Legion accepted him.

[riotgear]

Give Frog-Man a one-shot written by Dan Slott, and drawn by either Sal Buscema or Ron Frenz. Classic all the way! Guess-starring the White Rabbit and Walrus!

[kudlaty_true]

the Spot has a really lame costume. maybe that's why the Legion accepted him.
Well, and that's where you are wrong. Because, you see, it's not his costume. His entire body, after the experiment on Cloack (as in Cloack and Dagger), is covered with actual black holes from Cloacks .. cloack. That's what makes him so cool and at the same time so underused.

[Haunt]

Well, and that's where you are wrong. Because, you see, it's not his costume. His entire body, after the experiment on Cloack (as in Cloack and Dagger), is covered with actual black holes from Cloacks .. cloack. That's what makes him so cool and at the same time so underused.


so what if the experiment made him look that way? poka-dots are still pretty gay (the bad version). they could have made him cooler looking.


Give Frog-Man a one-shot written by Dan Slott, and drawn by either Sal Buscema or Ron Frenz. Classic all the way! Guess-starring the White Rabbit and Walrus!


only if there's a special guest-appearance by Scourge and a sniper rifle. :)

[FrogMan]

only if there's a special guest-appearance by Scourge and a sniper rifle. :)
And Haunt. Don't forget his guest appearance. He gets in the way when Scourge fires at Frog-Man.

j/k ;)

[Haunt]

And Haunt. Don't forget his guest appearance. He gets in the way when Scourge fires at Frog-Man.

j/k ;)


it would pass right through my rotting flesh into Frog-Man. duh. :D

[FrogMan]

Drat!! Foiled again!!!

[FrogMan]

I'm still waiting.

Surely they could at least give Frog-Man a one panel appearance somewhere in Civil War.

Arrgh!

[adam1214]

:confused: Who is Frogman :confused:

[Young Avenger]

Wait, what, the Spot is dead?

He was killed by Wolverine in Enemy of the State.

[Beacon]

He was killed by Wolverine in Enemy of the State.

The Spot has been killed a couple more times before that (heck, his last appearance before that story had Tombstone snapping his neck) but he always comes back with zero explaination. Thanks to Marvel's lack of continuity under Joe Q, I don't think someone like the Spot CAN be killed for good because "dead means dead" means zip when the editors can't be bothered to remember he was killed in the first place. Come to think of it, I think Axel was the editor the last two times they killed the Spot so that makes the inconsistancy even worse.

[FrogMan]

Spot and Slyde should get married. :)

Anyway, I'm still waiting, Marvel. Bringing back Steel Spider is great, but where's Froggy?

[Beacon]

Spot and Slyde should get married. :)

They’d have to alter their vows because there’s no way death would keep them apart for very long. Heh, does anyone know what Cyclops and Phoenix’s were?


Anyway, I'm still waiting, Marvel. Bring back Steel Spider is great, but where's Froggy?

Eh, I seriously doubt Ollie coming back in Thunderbolts is going to be a good thing. He’ll probably end up as canon-fodder just like every other minor character to show up in a book by Ellis, Millar, or Bendis.

[Gaastra]

Spot was in the 90's spider-man cartoon also.

The misfits returned for one issue of marvel age.

It was an aprils fools issue.

The members were---

Frog man
razerback
Squirrel Girl
3-d man
daddy long legs

That team never showed up again.

[G-Man]

Remember this ish?
http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/vol/3000/2127/2127-25673-1-amazing-spider-man-_400.jpg
From back in '85.

[FrogMan]

yeah I remember it. Still got it. It's the one where the Misfits are formed (Toad, Frog-Man, and Spider-Kid, now known as Steel Spider.)

I was hoping they'd get a mini, but it never happened.

Other names for the Misfits, The Oy Team, and the All-Weiner-Squad. LOL

[FrogMan]

Hey Frog-Man is on the cover for the Irredeemable Ant-Man # 12. YAY!!! HE'S BACK!

At least, I hope he's in the issue, not just on the cover. That would suck.

[Toku King]

He was in Marvel Tales a few months ago.

[Toadsanime]

I guess it's possible he could make a come back, but... he isn't exactly the most well-known character, is he? XD
I actually like the name Leapfrog better anyways :P

[FrogMan]

He was in Marvel Tales a few months ago.

Marvel Tales? What is that? I didn't know Marvel was putting out a Marvel Tales right now. Is it just a reprint thing like the original MT was?

[Toku King]

Marvel Tales? What is that? I didn't know Marvel was putting out a Marvel Tales right now. Is it just a reprint thing like the original MT was?

Nope. It's like a family oriented Ultimate Spiderman. They rewrite Spiderman's stories.
For example, in Marvel Tales, the suit is test lab leech creature, Eddie Brock is burglar and not a reporter, the Hobgoblin comes when the Green Goblin is still around(and GG promptly beats him down), and other things.

[rZi]

Lol i really doubt we will see him anytime soon sorry dude, spider-man has had ALOT of bad issues and characters in his career over the years (hypno-hustler to give you just 1 example) so im hoping frogmans gonna stay out of the MU unless he appears in powerpack..

[FrogMan]

Lol i really doubt we will see him anytime soon sorry dude, spider-man has had ALOT of bad issues and characters in his career over the years (hypno-hustler to give you just 1 example) so im hoping frogmans gonna stay out of the MU unless he appears in powerpack..

Um, yeah, but he's on the cover of Ant-Man #12.

[rockgrant]

Speaking of loser characters, anyone remember what Razorback's powers were? Supreme truck-driving ability?

[Lord_Archive]

I think Razorback had some kind of electrical discharge thing that came from his back, but I could be WAAAY off.

But I agree with FrogMan, we need the Fabulous Frog-Man back in action. I say he should join the Great Lakes Avengers and they should finally get their own series.

Frog-Man reminds me of heroic version of X the Eliminator. Maybe he should get his own series on Adult Swim. With all the stoner garbage they've been showing lately, it would be a major improvement (but then again, throwing rocks at puppies would be an improvement).

Squirrel Girl should die though. I hope they fired whoever wrote that "squirrel girl beat thanos" story.

[Toku King]

I think Razorback had some kind of electrical discharge thing that came from his back, but I could be WAAAY off.

You're partially right.
Razorback possesses the mutant ability to drive any kind of vehicle even with a limited degree of knowledge as to how the vehicle operates. He is also an excellent hand to hand combatant and he can electrify the mane on his hood, shocking those who attack it.

[FrogMan]

Sadly, I've learned from Phil Hester that Frog-Man only appears on the cover for ANT-MAN #12.

blah

[FrogMan]

In case people don't go over to the Avengers board, Frog-Man appears in Avengers:The Initiative #7 as part of one of the 50 States Initiative teams called the Action Pack.

See art work of Frog-Man's new look here:

http://comics.ign.com/articles/827/827251p1.html

Don't know how I feel about the new costume, but I'll wait until I see the finished colored version before I pass judgement on it.

See, bitching loud and lots to anyone who will listen does work. First Steel Spider, now Frog-Man. I must have asked Dan Slott a couple of dozen times to have Frog-Man appear in one of his books (just as recently as the A:TI #6 thread over on the Avengers boards), and it finally paid off.

Yeah, I wish I could take the credit. :) I probably just got Frog-Man killed.

[BeastieRunner]

Spot is back too, only to go back into limbo . . . :(

Maybe they'll have a team-up!

Spot/Frog-Man :)

[Monty_Cristo]

i've been on a Frog-Man kick this past week (we'll see how long it lasts). Do any of you see potentiail in Eugene? is there room for "improvement" like with formerly-goofy Squirrel Girl, Steel-Spider, Slapstick, and Speedball? if so, what do you see for Frog-Man's future? does he need to lose weight or do you like him as is?


p.s.

Frog-Man Casting Call:

Eugene Patilio: Patrick Renna (Dark Ride, X-Files, Big Green, Sandlot, etc)
http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0112499/1-17.jpg.html

Vincent Patilio: Dan Hedaya (Clueless)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000445/

Rosemary Patilio: Kathy Bates (Misery)
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000870/

[Alan2099]

does the Marvel Universe really have room for joke characters? aren't they, inherently, canon fodder-in-waiting? i just think there's a difference between a joke character and a character who, literally, a joke. they have to have some legitimacy. Deadpool's a joke character, imo. but he's also cool. SheHulk's another one who is just an odd fit in the Marvel Universe. but she works. she fits. i can't say the same for Frog-Man, Dr Bong, or NFL Superpro. there's something about them that reminds me of that movie at the video store that i've never rented and never will.
Of course there's room for joke characters. Not everybody can be an A-list and somebody has to be at the bottom of the barrel. Some characters you just need to look at and go, "that's pathetic," there are certyain types of stories you can tell with those types that you can't tell with "legitimate" characters and a vastly different feel.

As for fodder, only a hack would bring back minor characters just for the sake of killing them off.


Otherwise whats the point of killing off characters in the first place.
Cheap shock value of course! Killing off characters is easier than writing intresting stories with them alive.


Squirrel Girl should die though. I hope they fired whoever wrote that "squirrel girl beat thanos" story.
You're using a Lobo avatar. Mr. I-beat-everybody-in-heaven-and-hell-while dead. You'e not allowed to talk about characters beating people that they shouldn't have chance against.

[Monty_Cristo]

Of course there's room for joke characters. Not everybody can be an A-list and somebody has to be at the bottom of the barrel. Some characters you just need to look at and go, "that's pathetic," there are certyain types of stories you can tell with those types that you can't tell with "legitimate" characters and a vastly different feel.

As for fodder, only a hack would bring back minor characters just for the sake of killing them off.

uhh. why did you respond to my old post instead of the new post, i brought the thread back with? :confused:

[Alan2099]

First time reading the thread and felt that was the post that needed responding too most.

[Monty_Cristo]

First time reading the thread and felt that was the post that needed responding too most.

fair enough. but i was posting because i changed my mind. oh well.

[Reggie]

Maybe those goofy superheroes will come back since according to his blag deMatteis is returning to a little bit of spidey (http://www.amazon.com/gp/blog/post/PLNK32C78B1WP043Y) soon?

[FrogMan]

Only a couple of more weeks to go. :)

And I would love to see dM return and write some Frog-Man!

Hopefully, we can get an Action Pack min or something out of this appearance. Who else was on the team?

[Monty_Cristo]

Only a couple of more weeks to go. :)

And I would love to see dM return and write some Frog-Man!

Hopefully, we can get an Action Pack min or something out of this appearance. Who else was on the team?

Prima Donna http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/827/827251/avengers-the-initiative-20071012071321652.jpg

and

Vox http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/827/827251/avengers-the-initiative-20071012071331606.jpg

are the only other confirmed Action Packers. but, with a name like that, you can almost imagine NFL Super-Pro lurking somewhere in the locker room.

[FrogMan]

Prima Donna http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/827/827251/avengers-the-initiative-20071012071321652.jpg

and

Vox http://comicsmedia.ign.com/comics/image/article/827/827251/avengers-the-initiative-20071012071331606.jpg

are the only other confirmed Action Packers. but, with a name like that, you can almost imagine NFL Super-Pro lurking somewhere in the locker room.

NFL SuperPro? I WISH!

If SuperPro AND Frog-man were to both make a comeback and in the same issue, I could die a happy man. :)

[FrogMan]

So what did everyone think of Frog-Man's (albeit small) appearance in ATI #7?
I loved it, hope we see more of him and the Action Pack somewhere (hopefully in the next issue).

Frog-Man's been popping up all over the place lately. He was on the cover of Ant-Man #12, his leg was seen on the last page of World War Hulk Frontline #5 (LOL), now his appearance in ATI #7, and he was shown in Kraven's zoo in Punisher War Journal # 13.

It's a good time to be me. :)

[Monty_Cristo]

So what did everyone think of Frog-Man's (albeit small) appearance in ATI #7?
I loved it, hope we see more of him and the Action Pack somewhere (hopefully in the next issue).

Frog-Man's been popping up all over the place lately. He was on the cover of Ant-Man #12, his leg was seen on the last page of World War Hulk Frontline #5 (LOL), now his appearance in ATI #7, and he was shown in Kraven's zoo in Punisher War Journal # 13.

It's a good time to be me. :)

disappointed, really. but that's because i was very interested to learn about the Action Pack (after seeing the sketchs). i don't even know what Prima Donna or Vox's powers are. Eugene didn't do anything he couldn't have minus a costume. otherwise, it was fun to see new characters. maybe they'll have more to do in later issues. i wonder if Eugene likes Kentucky. he's pretty far away from his family. i guess he and Squirrel Girl won't be hooking up any time soon.

P.S. so, if you're a Super-Pro fan, are you also a fan of MVP? they are kind of similar; both being wholesome jocks. maybe one of those clones will grow up to be NFL Semi-Pro!

[It Is Inevitable]

Frog-Man? Psssh. Who Cares?

Bring Back Hypno-Hustler!

[Monty_Cristo]

Frog-Man? Psssh. Who Cares?

Bring Back Hypno-Hustler!

yeah, but who will the Hypno-Hustler fight? yeah. Frog-Man.

[FrogMan]

Actually Hypno Hustler was in that same issue of WWH Frontline, too panels or so above Frog-Man's leg. LOL

yo

[It Is Inevitable]

yeah, but who will the Hypno-Hustler fight? yeah. Frog-Man.

C'mon, they'll find some one for HH to fight. But it would be nice to see what good ol' Hypno-Hustler is up to......

[Monty_Cristo]

C'mon, they'll find some one for HH to fight. But it would be nice to see what good ol' Hypno-Hustler is up to......

my guess is that he's still trying to get booked somewhere; probably playing for spare change somewhere.

[Harold of the Rocks]

my guess is that he's still trying to get booked somewhere; probably playing for spare change somewhere.Try small town wedding receptions and the like. Anywhere you can pay 'talent' with beer. And I'm talkin' like "Keystone in cans" cheap.

[Monty_Cristo]

Try small town wedding receptions and the like. Anywhere you can pay 'talent' with beer. And I'm talkin' like "Keystone in cans" cheap.

not even the champagne of beers? surely, Hypno Hustler knows some covers.

[Karl Cook]

FYI: Frogman can be seen caged on the last page of Punisher War Journal 13. He's an exhibit in Kraven's zoo...