JLA-AVENGERS vs. INFINITE CRISIS

[Damo]

Okay, a little unfair of a poll what with IC unfinished, but I'll no doubt forget to make it if I put it off much longer.

So which work do you prefer?

[DracoMalfoy]

JLA/Avengers certainly has the better art. That Reiz guy makes everyone look 60....

However in the JLA/Avengers I was annoyed by the blatant bias for the Avengers. SW gets crazy powerful chaos magic.....Flash loses his powers. Iron Man gets a mother box....Green Lantern loses his battery and his powers. The story as a whole felt like an Avengers story gueststarring the JLA.

[Ian Boothby]

Everyone in JLA/Avengers acted in character and they didn't kill off anyone for shock value. Both addressed how dark the world of superhero comics has become and has the heroes dealing with that. Both only really have full effect if you're already a fan but you don't have to buy any additional books to follow the JLA/Avengers plotline. And the art is Perez in JLA/Avengers, not just someone apeing Perez. So that one has to take it for me.

[Damo]

JLA/Avengers certainly has the better art. That Reiz guy makes everyone look 60....

However in the JLA/Avengers I was annoyed by the blatant bias for the Avengers. SW gets crazy powerful chaos magic.....Flash loses his powers. Iron Man gets a mother box....Green Lantern loses his battery and his powers. The story as a whole felt like an Avengers story gueststarring the JLA.
Mmmm... I disagree. I mean, dang, Superman took out Thor. Personally I think it should have gone the other way (Superman is vulnerable to magic, and they don't get much more magic than Thor), but that was a clear and major win on the DC side. Likewise Flash slearly outran Quicksilver, and heck, the DC Universe provided the main villain.

But to each their own.

[rfahey]

I don't think it was one-sided. Superman beat Thor, Flash outran Quicksilver, and Batman and Captain America fought to a standstill. A DC villain was responsible for beating the crap out of the JLA and Avengers and destroying at least one generic universe in the process. DC held up well enough.

JLA/Avengers was lighthearted and fun, but ultimately inconsequential. IC has also been a fun ride, and will be important to DC's history. I'll give a slight nod to IC.

[Dark Soul # 7]

I don't think it was one-sided. Superman beat Thor, Flash outran Quicksilver, and Batman and Captain America fought to a standstill. A DC villain was responsible for beating the crap out of the JLA and Avengers and destroying at least one generic universe in the process. DC held up well enough.See, most of that is in favor of DC.
At least the Avengers had the better leader and were winning the final fight in #2.

[The Shadow]

Avengers-JLA.

Because you got the WHOLE story... not plot points that were left vague or unanswered that were answered with crossovers.

IC is cramming too much into a nonsensical story as DC tried AGAIN to fix things.

[TommyV]

JLA/Avengers certainly has the better art. That Reiz guy makes everyone look 60....

However in the JLA/Avengers I was annoyed by the blatant bias for the Avengers. SW gets crazy powerful chaos magic.....Flash loses his powers. Iron Man gets a mother box....Green Lantern loses his battery and his powers. The story as a whole felt like an Avengers story gueststarring the JLA.

Not true. If anything, I felt that the JLA got more love. But whatever, the fact that we both thought there was an emphasis on one or the other makes it a great, balanced story with something for everyone.

I am LOVING Infinite Crisis, but nothing has made my fanboy heart beat like JLA/Avengers did. It was top-notch writing and the art is unbelievable. Get the Absolute Edition if you can - it's big, bold and beautiful.

[G'nort]

Jla Avengers was a fun story, but with no real consequences.
the superman thor fight whent the way it should have, superman winning.

however IC gets my vote because its a much bigger story with much bigger consequences. the Jla avengers story was almost childish plotwize, with both groups gathering objects to save their universe. in IC their are so many gears turning that you have to think to keep up, I like that.

Also, Im not that big a fan of perez. hes alright, if your old.

[trickster]

Also, Im not that big a fan of perez. hes alright, if your old.

Who cares how old he is? It's about how he draws. At least his people don't look like they need wrinkle cream.


not plot points that were left vague or unanswered that were answered with crossovers.



You mean like the cosmic egg I think it was called?

[WatsonGlenn]

Also, Im not that big a fan of perez. hes alright, if your old.

Ouch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[Ender]

Who cares how old he is? It's about how he draws. At least his people don't look like they need wrinkle cream.

Actually G'nort's comment was that Perez is okay to a reader if the reader is old. Correct? Did I misunderstand that? Because I'm curious as to what the age cut-off for Perez enjoyment is.

[TommyV]

Also, Im not that big a fan of perez. hes alright, if your old.

What a truly ridiculous thing to say. It's okay, though, because your atrocious grammar indicates that you are in the third grade. Your taste and tact haven't been honed yet.

[Paul Newell]

Settle down guys. I don't want to see this turn into insult flinging.

[mswood]

Easily JLA/Avengers

WHile the plot was standard (going back decades), the characters were in character. The plot was handled well.

And the Art. Even if you aren't a Perez fan, it was consistent. IC hasn't been. From the very good, to the muddled.

[G'nort]

What a truly ridiculous thing to say. It's okay, though, because your atrocious grammar indicates that you are in the third grade. Your taste and tact haven't been honed yet.

I was jokin dude ease up, your on the internet, nobody uses correct grammer here lol.

perez is cool, but I gravitate more towards the jim lee's and carlos pacheco's. I personaly dont care for perez's style.

[Calculator]

While I regard both very highly for the great nerd-out moments, I ultimately chose Infinite Crisis because it didn't have to even things out between two companies. The main issue with company crossovers, for me at least, is that nothing over-the-top can go on. You can have Superman knock out Thor, but you have to, in the next panel, have a bunch of d-list Avengers dog pile him to even it out.

In a crossover, within a company, you can go for broke.

For me, the lead ins, the Crisis itself, and OYL feel like a big 'thank you'. While some are turned off to this because of how certain characters are treated or mistreated, I don't agree.

I was and still am the biggest JLI fan out there, and even though much of that original roster has been put through the ringer in the past two years, I don't have any bad feelings about it because I am enjoying the story at large. Blue Beetle knew there was a conspiracy before anyone else, and tried to do something about it himself when his friends turned their backs on him. That was a great character moment that showed he wasn't just that goofy former JLIer.

Another thing that I love about the Crisis is what I've read into it. I take the story to be largely about the older generation looking down upon the new generation and accusing them of being failures. In the process of trying to bring back things to the way they used to be, they end up committing all the same wrongs they accuse the new generation of.

I'll give this to JLA/AVENGERS though. I fell out of my chair on the double page spread of Starro attacking the Avengers in New York. Bravo Mr. Perez, that image will forever be burned into my skull as one of the coolest splash pages ever.

[Stanlos]

To be fair, there is not much to compare to the scope and anticipation of that series. And it's by one artist.

[newscott]

JLA/Avengers had a bigger wow factor for me. Superman getting Thor's hammer and Cap's sheild, it just gave me what I wanted to see in a fun romp of a superhero tale.

I like Perez, for the record.

[Damo]

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more sure of my vote now. Comparing the two "lets have every villain fight every hero" scenes isn't even funny.

[marshal99]

What's the point of the poll again ? Why compare them ? They are very different type of series .

One is a labour of love by the creators , 20 years in the making.
The other is a poor sequel and a way to milk it for all that it is worth by the numerous tie-ins and mini series. Even COIE never went to that length , COIE is self contained within its 12 issues. IC just feels like it is already half way through the storyline since it started even before the first issue.

[JeffreyWKramer]

AVENGERS/JLA was much more coherent as a story.

It had lots more "fun" moment, while also having lots of drama.

The art in AVENGERS/JLA was vastly better, and certainly much more consistent.

While not a particularly "deep" book, AVENGERS/JLA is a superior book on every level.

[Shellhead]

Also, Im not that big a fan of perez. hes alright, if your old.

I realize that you're joking around, but this is a peculiar remark. Perez and his fans may be older than Jim Lee or Phil Jiminez and their fans. But Perez tends to draw his characters as relatively young, compared to the aged and wrinkly depictions of Phil Jiminez. His indiscriminate use of lines for shading just makes his characters look like a bunch of geezers.