MERGE: Is Hulk Unbeatable? How About The Most Powerful?

[power_man]

And write any comments you feel like,explaning why or why not

[Beast]

Of course he's not, he's been beaten numerous times in the comics. :)

[power_man]

but he has new more powerful powers.

[Sheldon]

What are his new more powerful powers?

What does the hulk really need if he he is the strongest one there is?

[Beast]

but he has new more powerful powers.
So? Power isn't everything. :)

[gunz]

hulk can only be defeated by calming down, so basically, just make sure he`s reading new avengers and he`ll be so pissed at no action he`ll be unstopable :cool: (still love ya bmb)

[Jake V]

If a Celestial can get beaten, so can the Hulk.

[power_man]

What are his new more powerful powers?

What does the hulk really need if he he is the strongest one there is?

ill tell you:
Adaptation to hostile environments: There have been several instances in the past where Hulk has not only spent extended periods of time underwater or in oxygen-less outer space without suffocating, but he has also moved his mouth and spoken in these environments. It appears that the Hulk's body is able to adapt itself to new inhospitable environments when necessary. Like his healing factor, it is believed that this ability is also fueled by his rage and the madder the Hulk is, the quicker the Hulk's body will adapt.

One example of the Hulk's ability occurred in Incredible Hulk v3 #77, where it was finally learned that the Hulk has the power to develop a gland that can create an oxygenated perfluorocarbon emulsion that filled Hulk's lungs, allows him to breathe and move his mouth as if he was speaking, even though his words are apparently still inaudible to the naked ear. It is possible this gland does not always develop during every transformation, since there are times when Hulk has been unable to breathe underwater. Or, certain incarnations of the Hulk may not be aware of this gland and have not utilized it, presuming they could not breathe underwater. In yet other cases its possible the Hulk's rage was not sufficient to trigger such adaptations. However, this is still mere speculation

Energy Manipulation: Not usually a power associated with the Hulk, but there is a sufficient amount of evidence that the Hulk possesses at least a limited ability to manipulate forms of energy, most particularly gamma radiation. In Incredible Hulk v2 #242, the Hulk grabbed an energy shield and twisted it as though it were solid. The Hulk was also able to redirect massive amounts of gamma radiation using his bare hands in Incredible Hulk v2 #270. The Hulk's body also acts as a "gamma battery" by constantly creating and radiating gamma energy. In Incredible Hulk v2 #463, Armageddon wanted to use the Hulk's own energy to power machines capable of bringing his son back to life. However, the Hulk outsmarted him by consciously force feeding his own energy into the machines at a rate too fast for them to handle and they promptly overloaded and exploded. The extent to which Hulk controls his own energy, and foreign sources of energy, is undetermined.

to name just a few.....

[The Foreigner]

This poll doesn't make any sense. The Hulk has been beaten before, therefore he is not unbeatable. Case closed. What's the point of voting?

I find it even more confusing that someone voted "Yes"...

[power_man]

In a fair fight he would be unbeatable

[power_man]

This poll doesn't make any sense. The Hulk has been beaten before, therefore he is not unbeatable. Case closed. What's the point of voting?

I find it even more confusing that someone voted "Yes"...

all right....let me try again on a different forum.

[Beast]

In a fair fight he would be unbeatable
He's beaten all the time in fair fights. :p

[Beast]

all right....let me try again on a different forum.
And get the exact same answer. :D

[power_man]

Even if he got beaten by that enemy once,dont you think he can get a great comeback at that enemy ? vote now!!

[Beast]

No. He can't.

[power_man]

He's beaten all the time in fair fights. :p

no hes not :p

[Beast]

no hes not :p
How is any fight not fair, considering Hulk's powerset. Unless it's maybe a battle of wits.

[power_man]

No. He can't.

oh? and how would you know? beast dident beat onslote,hulk did :p

[Beast]

oh? and how would you know? beast dident beat onslote,hulk did :p
Hulk didn't beat Onslaught either. You may want to re-read that storyline.

[power_man]

Hulk didn't beat Onslaught either. You may want to re-read that storyline.

well he ripped off his armor and helped defeat him.did beast do that?

[Beast]

well he ripped off his armor and helped defeat him.did beast do that?
http://www.hulklibrary.com/hulk/images/covers/tih2/tih2-161-s.jpg

[power_man]

http://www.hulklibrary.com/hulk/images/covers/tih2/tih2-161-s.jpg

sooooooo?:confused: http://img145.exs.cx/img145/7008/blastaar7os.jpg

[Beast]

You're adorable. Welcome to the forums. But no, the Hulk is not Unbeatable. :)

[power_man]

You're adorable. Welcome to the forums. But no, the Hulk is not Unbeatable. :)

thank you. i did not mean hes unbeatable,i ment can he beat any foe even not on his first try

[Beast]

thank you. i did not mean hes unbeatable,i ment can he beat any foe even not on his first try
Can you rephrase that, in english perhaps? But the answer would still be no.

[brian2322]

powerman, dude he can be beaten just because he is really powerful he has stiill been and can beaten even in hand to hand combat(juggy did it when he had the gem, captain universe,wallflower defianately could if she still had powers and was alive)
but welcome

[power_man]

i ment....he dose not always beat people on his first try. he has to have a rematch and whene he dose sooner or later he beats them

[brian2322]

i ment....he dose not always beat people on his first try. he has to have a rematch and whene he dose sooner or later he beats them

so does just about all of the marvel universe

[Beast]

That's true of just about any character. It's called building dramatic tension.

[power_man]

im sorry if it came out wrong.

[Hulk_Is]

Dude, the Hulk can be beaten... even in rematches galore.

I love the Hulk and I'd never want him to look stupid, so I'll simply say he is not unbeatable.

(holds back tears)

[ednemo]

Any number of people could beat the Hulk depending on how you determine a fair fight. (And really depending on who is writing the comic.) Without much effort, the Celestials, Eternity, or most of the more Heavy duty cosmic dieties. Sue Storm could beat the Hulk by cutting off his air. Reed Richards could beat the Hulk by teleporting him to the N Zone. And the Punisher could beat the Hulk by feeding him C4 explosives in his stew.

So, I'm really not sure what you are going for...

[Sabrinaset]

In Future Imperfect, the Maestro casually admits that Thor, or the FF with Richards at the helm, or the Wild Man could have beaten him, so there you go.

[power_man]

you guys all have good points this forum dose not make any sense so im makeing a new one. if any one know how to get rid of this fourm please do so.

[Beast]

you guys all have good points this forum dose not make any sense so im makeing a new one. if any one know how to get rid of this fourm please do so.
Why doesn't it make any sense? And you can't get rid of it, only a mod can delete your thread.

[power_man]

because i messed up the poll.thats why and sence i cant erase my mistike ill make a new forum. i thought of a better one anyway

[Harlock]

Dr. Strange could beat the Hulk before he could say, "Hulk Smash!"

The Sentry could defeat Hulk simply by talking him into going on a mission with him, which he did in the current Sentry miniseries. Not that he was out to defeat the Hulk, but that was the end result.

[Beast]

because i messed up the poll.thats why and sence i cant erase my mistike ill make a new forum. i thought of a better one anyway
The mods will get angry if you keep remaking the same thread.

You wouldn't like them when they're angry. Cause then it will be "HULK BAN!". :D

[power_man]

The mods will get angry if you keep remaking the same threads. And then it will be 'HULK BAN!'. :D

its not the same one its a different one

[The Foreigner]

you guys all have good points this forum dose not make any sense so im makeing a new one. if any one know how to get rid of this fourm please do so.

It's called a "thread," not a "forum"...

[power_man]

ok thread :o

[Steffen]

hulk can only be defeated by calming down, so basically, just make sure he`s reading new avengers and he`ll be so pissed at no action he`ll be unstopable :cool: (still love ya bmb)

Dude, that's just nasty. :D

[foxfire]

onslote

I was trying to figure out what this word was, and then I realized that if you spelled "Onslaught" how it sounds phoenetically, it would pretty much be "Onslote." Maybe this guy really is smarter than all of us :rolleyes:

[power_man]

I was trying to figure out what this word was, and then I realized that if you spelled "Onslaught" how it sounds phoenetically, it would pretty much be "Onslote." Maybe this guy really is smarter than all of us :rolleyes:

Hayyyyyyy :mad:

[Citizen V]

Stan Lee once said that The Hulk was ment to be the strongest humanoid on earth.But that can be outdated to day,Hulk is strong..but i doubt he can beat anyone who comes to him.Like Galactus for example,there are some foes whom the Hulk cant beat.

[Mean Mr Mustard]

And its not like strenght is everything. SPECIALLY in then Marvel Universe.

[Crash-Man]

I voted yes.

[firestarfan]

As far as I know, Hulk has NEVER beaten Thanos (on his own) - and they've fought plenty of times.

And I'm a little baffled at why one would think that having a rematch would help the Hulk. I'm not a regular reader of his books, but I'm pretty sure he doesn't go home to the Hulkcave and fire up the ol' Hulkputer 6000 while pouring through his old copy of Sun Tzu's "The Art of War" and devising complex strategy. If anything, I'd think a rematch would favor Hulk's opponent.

[steve2275]

hulk can only be defeated by calming down, so basically, just make sure he`s reading new avengers and he`ll be so pissed at no action he`ll be unstopable :cool: (still love ya bmb)
thats funny i dont care who u r

[Sam T.]

yes vote for me!!

[Dark Soul # 7]

Silver Surfer has defeated Hulk numerous times and has never lost to the jade giant.

Titannus from MTU beat the snot out of Hulk twice in a row.

[power_man]

who do you think is the most powerful person in marvel?

[power_man]

http://img96.exs.cx/img96/2041/powercosmic8xj.jpg

[Beast]

Probably at this time, The Sentry. Or one of the other Superman types. :)

[power_man]

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c324/Hulk3389/thorhammer.jpg

[Beast]

So, this is just yet another 'Hulk is Awesome' thread. How fun. Zzzzzz.

[Will.S]

So, this is just yet another 'Hulk is Awesome' thread. How fun. Zzzzzz.
But....Hulk killed God! I have a scan of that too!

[Nick Kal]

But....Hulk killed God! I have a scan of that too!

LMAO! If only...

[phantom1592]

I stand by my pick.

Leech...... With a shotgun!


"No power!....... Boom"

[Harlock]

So, this is just yet another 'Hulk is Awesome' thread. How fun. Zzzzzz.

No joke. Hey, power_boy: http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=121471
Just relive that thread where everyone already told you Hulk was not all-powerful.

[SalazarSleaze2]

Brian Michael Bendis.

[StoneGold]

This dude.

http://www.silverbulletcomicbooks.com/rage/images/0311/danbuckleysm.jpg

[Violently Apathetic]

The combined forces of Speedball and Squirrel Girl. Yes, I can count them as one person, and the Hulk, Surfer, Namor and all the rest tremble at the approach of the dreaded...uh...Squirrel Ball? Yes, the mighty SQUIRREL BALL™!!!

[Dark Soul # 7]

http://img96.exs.cx/img96/2041/powercosmic8xj.jpgWhy don´t you include later scans where SS says that Hulk´s attack didn´t hurt him? Or better yet, the scans where SS knocks out Hulk. Oh and check out how SS states that it´s a simple forcefield.
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c324/Hulk3389/thorhammer.jpgFrom what comic is that?

[Ikaris]

who do you think is the most powerful person in marvel?

Joe Quesada

[lordlad]

Joe Quesada
i 2nd that.....he is even above the Living Tribunal

[foxfire]

not above Avi Arad though :D

[Arilou]

Depends, if you count him, the Living Tribunal.

Might not qualify as a "person" though.

[Frank]

Black Bolt

He singlehandly teleported a whole nation.

He opens his mouth and everybody is gone.

He is better than Chuck Norris.

[phantom1592]

Black Bolt



"NO POWER!" BANG! :cool:

[Captain Smith]

If Hulk caught Thor's hammer and broke it - did this really happen in continuity? - why were folks so in an uproar when Superman did the same thing?

Supes consistently has knocked Hulk out in the noncannon crossovers.

[Expletive Deleted]

Just a friendly reminder. No rumbling.

Thanks,

Your Mod

[20yrslater]

The cosmic voyeur himsself: the WATCHER!

[power_man]

this is not a hulk lovers thread...i was just showing him his feats thats all ok! :mad: :mad:

[roundman]

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c324/Hulk3389/thorhammer.jpg

I recognize that panel. It's from a '70s hulk comic. That issue involves Doc Samson doing some kind of mind scan on Hulk (notice Samson in the background?). Hulk goes ballistic during the scan, and kills several heroes. It's all happening in Hulk's mind, though; none of it "actually" happened.

I'd say that Hulk is possibly the physically strongest mortal creature in the Marvel Universe.

[Martin Finlay]

If this was a question of power, then my choices would be between:


The Hulk
Magneto
Galactus
Thor



I'm sure there are others, but my memory is failing me.

[Martin Finlay]

its not the same one its a different one

Don't go making too many threads in one day, it's frowned upon by moderators because it shows a lack of consideration for other posters who already have threads. The more threads you make, the more threads get knocked onto page two.

On topic, no, I do not believe Hulk is all powerful, nobody is. He can be beaten, he HAS been beaten.

As for the question, 'Could the Hulk win any fight in a rematch?' I believe the answer is also no. A character who has a vocabualary that mainly consists of, 'The madder Hulk gets, the stronger he gets!' probably isn't the kind of person to walk into a fight with a tactical game plan.

[Teamballin]

I can see why everyone picks the hulk but I gotta go with FF Franklin Richard

[maniacmatt]

Jamie Braddock, Frank Richards, or one of the other reality benders.

[Shellhead]

Just for laughs, let's make a list of who has defeated the Hulk and how, along with issue numbers. For example:

Invisible Girl defeated Hulk by suffocating him with a force field around his head, in Fantastic Four #167.

Iron Man channeled all the power in his armor into one mighty punch and knocked the Hulk unconscious, in Iron Man #132.

[The Scribe]

It all comes down to experience and intelligence.

The Hulk can and has been beaten.

Everyone can be beat or killed.

The Hulk gets stronger with anger, is nonsense.
He has even been beaten when he was upset.
Also, anger without thinking will get you beat.
You have to think when you fight.

If the Hulk was on Jeopardy he would never win. :p

Even Superman met his match in Doomsday.

Superman, Thor, Doomsday could easily beat the Hulk.

He's just a green version of Frankenstein anyway. :p

[Hiromi]

This is better suited for the Rumbles board. And the Silver Surfer spanks him like a red headed step child, just like he's done every other time. Hell Hulk hasn't even been shown to be unbeatable in his current monthly.

[Thanos_6383]

Of course he's not, he's been beaten numerous times in the comics. :)

Wow,over 11,000 posts?..i'd listen to him.

[Thanos_6383]

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c324/Hulk3389/thorhammer.jpg


Whoa,wait a minute.Hulk BROKE Thors hammer?

[power_man]

Whoa,wait a minute.Hulk BROKE Thors hammer?


Well ya diddent i say he was the strongest?:rolleyes:

[Martin Finlay]

Read Roundman's post.

[power_man]

Who?!?:confused:

[power_man]

Read Roundman's post.

Oh i read it and even he agrees with me

[Beast]

Oh i read it and even he agrees with me
Now reread it, you don't get it. It happened in his mind. None of it actually happened.

[power_man]

I'd say that Hulk is possibly the physically strongest mortal creature in the Marvel Universe.

see? even he agrees with me

[power_man]

It happened in his mind. None of it actually happened.

i know but he could if he was mad enough. right?

[Beast]

i know but he could if he was mad enough. right?
Thor's hammer is an Asgardian Artifact. It's magical in nature. So no, I don't think it could.

[power_man]

Thor's hammer is an Asgardian Artifact. It's magical in nature. So no, I don't think it could.

well the hulk has been known to smash force fealds and control magic and energy to a certen point.so why not his hammer? remmber glaxey master?

[power_man]

http://www.hulknews.com/hulkdatabase/hulk270-energy.jpg

[Wannabe]

I'd like to take Soujaboy Juggernaut vs. Power_man Hulk.

[Wannabe]

sooooooo?:confused: http://img145.exs.cx/img145/7008/blastaar7os.jpg

Wait. Your response to Beast fighting Hulk is that Hulk once wrapped Blastaar in metal? Actually, that does make sense if you think about it...




Oh wait, nevermind. That's still horrible logic.

[power_man]

I'd like to take Soujaboy Juggernaut vs. Power_man Hulk.

okhttp://www.hulknews.com/hulkdatabase/hulk457-stopsjuggernaut.jpg

[power_man]

I ment that the metel is adamentem the hulk can distroy it can beast?

[Wannabe]

2 problems.

That's War Hulk. When you pit characters against eachother you take their average strength.

And I don't think you know who Soujaboy is. He's a poster in the rumbles board, who loves Juggernaut more than you love Hulk.

[Wannabe]

I ment that the metel is adamentem the hulk can distroy it can beast?

So apparently, Bending=Destroying. I did not know this. I can easily bend a fork. Does not mean I can tug on each side and rip it in half.

[power_man]

Wise guy:mad:

[power_man]

2 problems.

That's War Hulk. When you pit characters against eachother you take their average strength.

And I don't think you know who Soujaboy is. He's a poster in the rumbles board, who loves Juggernaut more than you love Hulk.

First he still beat him so it dosent matter and he wasent the war hulk hes the death hulk.

secend how would you know?

[Wannabe]

First he still beat him so it dosent matter and he wasent the war hulk hes the death hulk.
Yes it does matter. That's like saying Spider-man vs. Hulk, but not saying that It happens to be Phoenix-spider. And It most certainly is War Hulk. I dare you to prove otherwise.
secend how would you know?
I most definitly said that I think. Perhaps you should read more carefully. And I'm pretty sure that Soujaboy has been banned the entire time you've been on these boards.

[Expletive Deleted]

When you pit characters against eachother you take their average strength.Not to single you out specifically, Wannabe, but I need to point out . . .

This is not the Rumbles board and this is not a fight thread. I'd rather not close or move this thread, but I will if I have to.

[Gargus]

The problem with trying to ask questions like who is the most powerfull, who cant be beaten, how strong someone is and such varies depending on a persons love of that charcter. Someone who loves thanos would say he is unstoppable while someone who doesnt care would rate him weaker.

Then you have how the charcter is written. Depending on the writer decides how powerfull the hulk.

Its impossible to come to a conclusion on these things and honestly I think it was a incredible waste of time to try and put reason to it. They are just comic books and nothing more.

[Beast]

First he still beat him so it dosent matter and he wasent the war hulk hes the death hulk.
Actually, Wannabe is correct. That's War Hulk, when he was transformed and augmented with Celestial Technology by Apocalypse to serve as the Horseman War. :)

[Dark Soul # 7]

Among mortals Thanos is probably the most powerful.
Hell I bet he´s more powerful than Hulk, Thor and Silver Surfer together.

[*spiderfan*]

The hulk is powerful but what would be the point if he was unbeatable there would never any tension/danger for the character.

[britanix]

The hulk is powerful but what would be the point if he was unbeatable there would never any tension/danger for the character.

I agree. However, i really don't see why people think Thanos could beat the Hulk so easily. I personly think Hulk would win Thanos. Well, Savage Hulk would.

[Dark Soul # 7]

I agree. However, i really don't see why people think Thanos could beat the Hulk so easily. I personly think Hulk would win Thanos. Well, Savage Hulk would.Because Thanos is multitudes stronger than even Savage Hulk and many more powers that Hulk can´t really counter. Oh and he has one of the sharpest tactical minds in Marvel. With all this thanos can rather easily beat down Hulk in a one-on-one fight.

[phantom1592]

The hulk is powerful but what would be the point if he was unbeatable there would never any tension/danger for the character.


?!?!

I've never felt any tension/Danger for the character:confused:

Personally I would never use him except as a bad guy. An unstoppable thing that has to be stopped by everyone else.

People with that much power work better as an enemy.

[Martin Finlay]

i know but he could if he was mad enough. right?

No.

Read one of the early Avengers comics, issue 4 I think. The Hulk can't even remove the hammer (with two hands) from Thor, who is holding on with one hand.

[tkitna]

Heck, the Abomination should have killed him in the next panel, but you know how it goes.

http://members.fortunecity.com/jmolinamuscara/pan270a.jpg

[roundman]

Among mortals Thanos is probably the most powerful.
Hell I bet he´s more powerful than Hulk, Thor and Silver Surfer together.

Thanos is immortal.

[lucifernomi]

No matter how angry he got, I can't imagine Hulk beating that Michael guy that's tearing up things in New Avengers.

[Darksbane]

All you people need to stop drinking that haterade and admit that Hulk could SMASH anyone in the Marvel U. The Hulk is the strongest one there is, and hopefully in a few short months will return to Earth and lay waste to those puny super heroes who dare oppose him. Bring on Maestro!

[Dark Soul # 7]

Thanos is immortal.Actually it´s kinda iffy about his current mortality status.
All you people need to stop drinking that haterade and admit that Hulk could SMASH anyone in the Marvel U. The Hulk is the strongest one there is, and hopefully in a few short months will return to Earth and lay waste to those puny super heroes who dare oppose him. Bring on Maestro!That´s why he´s lost twice to Namor, three times to Silver Surfer, twice to Titannus and I can just go on and on about Hulk losing fair fights.

[Siegzon]

Because Thanos is multitudes stronger than even Savage Hulk and many more powers that Hulk can´t really counter. Oh and he has one of the sharpest tactical minds in Marvel. With all this thanos can rather easily beat down Hulk in a one-on-one fight.

By definition, no one is stronger than savage Hulk. That's sort of a marvel axiom. I agree with your other statements, though.

[Dark Soul # 7]

By definition, no one is stronger than savage Hulk. That's sort of a marvel axiom. I agree with your other statements, though.You´ve got a point.
How about this? Thanos is WAY stronger than Hulk´s base strength and it would take quite some time for Hulk to reach Thanos´s strength level.

[britanix]

All you people need to stop drinking that haterade and admit that Hulk could SMASH anyone in the Marvel U. The Hulk is the strongest one there is, and hopefully in a few short months will return to Earth and lay waste to those puny super heroes who dare oppose him. Bring on Maestro!

Here here.