Quicksilver's powers

[Ace]

Anyone reading "Son of M" knows about Pietro's new abilities revolving around time-travel.

I've heard statements around these boards that Quicksilver's powers have been stated in the past to involve some control over time. If this is in fact true, could anyone please show me a scan where someone states this or give an issue # where this I can find this?

I just would like to actually see it for myself rather than go by what may just be a rumor. Thanks.

[mattspideyrocks!]

Well, obviously he has some control over them. If he didn't, in issue 5 he wouldn't be able to replicate himself at will to beat up Magneto. There's one example for you.

[Ace]

Well, obviously he has some control over them. If he didn't, in issue 5 he wouldn't be able to replicate himself at will to beat up Magneto. There's one example for you.
Well, I'm talking about in the past; some time before the House of M and the whole 'terrigen mists' thing.

[TheSentryLives]

He never did anything like that in the past,it was just hinted that his power might be more of him existing in a faster time stream. Only time it was briefly shown was in his solo series when he he completely dissolved some chains around his arms where he was being held and it was by aging the chains to the point of dust.....something like that.

But that is the extent of what has been shown before Son of M

[Tobias March]

I think there may have been something written by either Fabes or PAD in X-Factor, one of those Apocalypse Files thingees (or was it Stryffe's - same idea basically) which argued that Pietro could potentially develop power of time, whereas Wanda was endowed with the ability to manipulate reality.

Thing is I heard about this on this very board months ago, so I can't really provide you with a ref (plus, y'know, it could be complete cack).

[CyberCoyote]

Very kewl. I haven't been reading Son of M because I thought it was gonna be a 'Son of B!' kinda tale. Too bad, but it'll probably come out in a trade. I always liked Pietro, particularly in the PAD X-Factor days. Making his powers time related is a mondo-fun way to use a speedster.

[Kirk G]

Very kewl. I haven't been reading Son of M because I thought it was gonna be a 'Son of B!' kinda tale. Too bad, but it'll probably come out in a trade. I always liked Pietro, particularly in the PAD X-Factor days. Making his powers time related is a mondo-fun way to use a speedster.
Well, you won't like what they're doing with him.... He's becoming thoroughly unlikeable in stages through this mini-series. Definately NOT the character we knew in X-Factor....
But, I'll reserve judgement until I find the final issue #6...
That cover for #4 was creepy.... and the cover for #5 was magnificent! :D

[Young Avenger]

Very kewl. I haven't been reading Son of M because I thought it was gonna be a 'Son of B!' kinda tale. Too bad, but it'll probably come out in a trade. I always liked Pietro, particularly in the PAD X-Factor days. Making his powers time related is a mondo-fun way to use a speedster.

Believe me, Son of M will make you hate Pietro. Much like Magneto said in issue 5 Pietro has turned into a monster.

[Will.S]

Well, you won't like what they're doing with him.... He's becoming thoroughly unlikeable in stages through this mini-series. Definately NOT the character we knew in X-Factor....
But, I'll reserve judgement until I find the final issue #6...
That cover for #4 was creepy.... and the cover for #5 was magnificent! :D
I don't think he's become unlikeable, I actually think he's become more interesting since he's in such a grey area right now. He's become really ballsy by being behind HoM, betraying the Inhumans and fighting his father (which I thought was justified). It's amazing just how much he pissed off Blackbolt and the Inhumans, enough to get them off of their duff and come back to earth again to look for him (which is a feat in itself) as well as seeing Blackbolt's actual thoughts.

As far as Quicksilver's new powers go, they're really cool and different but still in a very vague area since it involves time travel instead of actual super speed but then again he could have that too and we just don't know it yet.

[Shellhead]

Quicksilver traded Celerity for Temporis.

[Cthulhudrew]

Back in the Quicksilver series (1990s, by Joe Edkin and John Ostrander, and started by Tom Peyer), Quicksilver's speed powers got a bit of a boost.

In issue #12, he was imprisoned by the Acolytes, and a mysterious masked figure appeared to him and convinced him he could use his powers to free himself from his chains, which he did- causing them to fall apart. The figure, who had appeared to him in issue #8, told him that Pietro- as the son of Magneto, master of magnetism- simply had to visualize the manacles breaking away from his body, which is what happened. Presumably, the power Pietro accessed was electromagnetic in nature.

Later that issue, Pietro was used the High Evolutionary's Isotope E, which accelerated evolution, to enhance his speed powers even further than ever before. He was powerful enough to somehow separate the mutant Kleinstock brothers (mutants with the power to combine their bodies), travel miles in seconds, and even dodge Exodus' psionic blasts.

It isn't quite clear if he retained the boost from Isotope E- it was unstable, and his disappointment when he gives up the radioactive element to another character implies that it was temporary, as does his comment in issue #13 when he wonders how long the boost will last- but he clearly is much faster in later appearances (such as his appearance in Avengers v. 3 where he runs Bruce Banner across the Atlantic ocean to Greece in Avengers #40).

In any case, the mysterious figure again reappears to Quicksilver in issue #13, where the two have a running (literally) dialogue across the issue. The figure reveals his name to be Nestor, and as Pietro runs from place to place across the world (various points he once called home) Nestor seems to always be one step ahead of him. Nestor seems to be getting Pietro to examine his life and character by having him discuss his origins.

Nestor demonstrates himself to be obviously faster than Pietro by arriving places ahead of the speedster, and by stealing items from Pietro's hand at one point. Later in the issue, Pietro hits Nestor, knocking a helmet that looks mysteriously like Magneto's off of his head. We see that Nestor has white hair (oh, and he always wears a red cloak like Magneto- who at this point in continuity was missing from Marvel Earth- although I think that Joseph might have been around. Anyway.)

The implication was pretty clear that Nestor was a future version of Pietro (which Ostrander himself confirms here (http://www.comicscommunity.com/boards/ostrander/?noframes;read=2519), which led to speculation that Quicksilver's powers might be time related.

However, Ostrander himself has stated here in the same thread (http://www.comicscommunity.com/boards/ostrander/?noframes;read=2522) that their intention was to tie his powers into magnetism, not time.

From the looks of Son of M, though, it seems as if the time aspect is instead coming to the fore of Pietro's abilities. Maybe we'll see a return of "Nestor" before it's all said and done.

[streator]

The implication was pretty clear that Nestor was a future version of Pietro (which Ostrander himself confirms here (http://www.comicscommunity.com/boards/ostrander/?noframes;read=2519), which led to speculation that Quicksilver's powers might be time related.

However, Ostrander himself has stated here in the same thread (http://www.comicscommunity.com/boards/ostrander/?noframes;read=2522) that their intention was to tie his powers into magnetism, not time.

From the looks of Son of M, though, it seems as if the time aspect is instead coming to the fore of Pietro's abilities. Maybe we'll see a return of "Nestor" before it's all said and done.
i always thought nestor was magneto. i had never thought that it could have been an alternate pietro whatsoever.
thanks for the links.

[Kirk G]

i always thought nestor was magneto. i had never thought that it could have been an alternate pietro whatsoever.
thanks for the links.
Yes, Thanks so much. I think I bought only the 13th or 12th issue... and I also got the impression that it might have been Magneto under the cloak...

However, the tie in makes sense.

Now, can we back up a step and tell me if we EVER were told why Exidous seemed so familar to the Xmen clan when they came up against him and the acolades the first time on (take your pick:) Avalon or Asteroid M? Was he ever identified? Was it just coincidence that he looked a bit like Myphisto?

Inquiring minds want to know.

And finally, anybody want to guess where the final issue of Son of M will go?

[Haunt]

Yes, Thanks so much. I think I bought only the 13th or 12th issue... and I also got the impression that it might have been Magneto under the cloak...

However, the tie in makes sense.

Now, can we back up a step and tell me if we EVER were told why Exidous seemed so familar to the Xmen clan when they came up against him and the acolades the first time on (take your pick:) Avalon or Asteroid M? Was he ever identified? Was it just coincidence that he looked a bit like Myphisto?

Inquiring minds want to know.

And finally, anybody want to guess where the final issue of Son of M will go?

Pietro is going to live.

[kenjeffrey]

I was never a great fan of Quicksilver, he always had a chip on his shoulder that was way too big. The only thing I like about him is he has a great looking sister.

[darkhawk76]

I was never a great fan of Quicksilver, he always had a chip on his shoulder that was way too big. The only thing I like about him is he has a great looking sister.

shame she's a bit loopy ;)