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Count Vertigo
04-15-2006, 10:00 PM
YECCCH.
I picked up the entire set in a bargain bin today at my local store... Oh good lord! :eek: God it SUCKED. The artwork was like nasty manga. GAH. No wait, worse. Wanna-be manga. I cannot believe how almost everyone were just throwaway characters.
to me, Ostrander's SS will always be the best.
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Sean Walsh
04-15-2006, 10:19 PM
Paco Medina's a great artist - and he's gotten better since then - but his art did NOT fit the tone of a SUICIDE SQUAD series at all.
And coupled with Giffen's very sketchy and bad scripts, this was a rather painful read.
Bored at 3:00AM
04-16-2006, 06:37 AM
I only read the first issue, but that was enough. There was a lot of talent involved in making that comic, but the result was just....ugh.
MWGallaher
04-16-2006, 08:41 AM
I thought that version of the Squad was awfully done, too. One of the things that I found most striking was that almost *every* cover (or maybe even *all* of them) seemed to have nothing to do with what was inside! There were issues where the cover illustrated a scene from the following issue, scenes that just plain didn't happen in any shape or form, covers featuring characters in costume when the entire issue was "plain clothes"...just an incredible disconnect between the covers and the contents. The series as a whole was an editorial disaster: inappropriate artist, incomprehensible scripting, yecch....I honestly can't think of a more disastrously-executed series from DC in the past 20 years.
Ill Communication
04-16-2006, 12:35 PM
I thought it was great. Reminiscent of JLI, but a tad darker. I was sorry to see it go.
Gingold
04-16-2006, 02:11 PM
I think it started out weakly, and Medina's art never suited the book. I stuck with it through the whole run though, and by the end it was really starting to get interesting, with Giffen tying in Waller and the Jihad from the previous series. The flashback issues drawn by Russ Heath and John Severin were well done too.
CaptainAwesome
04-16-2006, 03:16 PM
I liked the series. Of course, it was one of the first comics I ever got, so Im a little bias. Also, Iguess Im the exeption, but I thought the art actually worked with the book. It showed me that super heroes and villains didnt have to be taken very seriously. But then again, thats just IMO. :D
Economist
04-16-2006, 06:58 PM
I didn't care for the art, but thought it was OK overall.
Didn't hate it, didn't love it...
But on what planet is the art "manga"? O_O
Kid Kyoto
04-17-2006, 08:37 PM
I got it the same way and it got better I thought. I think Giffin's dialogue was very funny and new characters were well done. The ending was a lot of fun, one of the best close downs I've seen.
But I am a big Giffin fanboi so I am biased.
All that being said, Ostrander's is the best.
Badger Boy
04-17-2006, 08:43 PM
I thought it was great. Reminiscent of JLI, but a tad darker. I was sorry to see it go.
Same here. Paco Medina's art was awesome to look at.
Karl J. Barnes
04-17-2006, 08:47 PM
Loved this comic, especially when Ostrander(sp?) took over. The comic ,at least, lived up to its name for the most part.
Apathy Boy
04-18-2006, 02:06 AM
Ostrander's SUICIDE SQUAD was better, but that goes without saying. Ostrander's SUICIDE SQUAD is better than pretty much anything.
Having said that, I sort of dug Giffen's run. There were some weird gaps in the storytelling and I felt it was a mistake to focus on a bunch of new and bland supporting characters (plus the misleading covers drove me nuts).
But the Suicide Squad is like pizza; even when it's bad, it's still pretty good. The premise of villains being forced to do good is so inherently brilliant that you can always get some entertainment value out of it. I also respect that Giffen didn't try to do a rehash of Ostrander's stuff, which must have been tempting.
I kind of liked Medina's art, too.
Agentum
04-19-2006, 02:19 AM
I hate to say it but yes it sucked.
Ostrander is the man for this series.
I like Giffen but this was not his thing it seems, and i guess trying to ake anything with this comic is very hard as long as there are people that remember Ostranders run.
I read the 10 first books recently (Ostranders) and they still hold up, they have a 80s feeling of course but they are still very good and fun to read.
So many loser villians get their chanse to be remebered for other things than being B-villians.
Trusty Mutsi
04-19-2006, 06:55 AM
I loved Giffen's dialogue as well. One of my favorite parts was when two of the guys (Sgt Rock and another guy I think) started having a stupid arguement on purpose just to get the geeky nerd guy to leave the room:)
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