Citizen V
04-11-2006, 05:15 PM
Upon doing further research,i decided to list information i known,and decided to compare this to what is now known.Make note,some of these elements might not be known to someone who did not read DC Pre-Crisis.
There's Pre-Crisis Earth-1, home of our Superman, Kal-El, and Pre-Crisis Earth-2, home of the original Superman, Kal-L.
Kal-L worked at the Daily Star, not the Daily Planet, didn't have an arctic fortress of solitude, but rather a fortress on a mountain overlooking Metropolis, and most notably, he can't fly, only leap.
Earth-2 is a parallel world to Earth-1, except that Wonder Woman, Batman and Superman started their careers as adults at the start of WWII, so they were considerably older than their Earth-1 counterparts. They also had a completely separate continuity. On Earth-2, Bruce Wayne married Selina Kyle, and had a daughter, Helena Wayne, who became the Huntress, as opposed to Earth-1, where Helena Bertinelli is the Huntress, and aside from wearing a similar costume and working (sort of) with Batman, has no other ties to Bruce Wayne or Catwoman.
Crisis on Infinite Earths destroyed all the dozens of alternate earths, like Earth-Prime (our Earth) and Earth-C, and took the five most prevalent, 1, 2, 4 (Charlton Comics characters, like Blue Beetle, the Atom, Nightshade and the Question), X (home of the Freedom Fighters), and S (Home of Fawcett Comics characters, like Shazam and Black Adam), and meshed them all into one Earth with one common history, and no duplicate characters.
A lot of things got retconned (written out of existence or rewritten so dramatically as to be a completely different entity), mishmashed, etc. Of course it wasn't long before Earth-3 (Home of the Crime Syndicate of Amerika), which was clearly destroyed at the beginning of CoIE, reappeared, so.. who's to say?
It's an ugly thing, pre-Crisis continuity. Essentially, though, as a rule, if it happened before Crisis on Infinite Earths, it -may- have happened, but not necessarily in the way it was shown. The Secret Society mindwipes are a good example of a pre-Crisis event referred to in post-Crisis continuity.
A little rant i read on another website i decided to put here...
"You know, it strikes me as very odd that the Earth-2 "spin" we're being fed is that this was the “better, kinder Earth.” Did Geoff Johns or anyone else ever actually read Infinity, Inc.? Even during the series, the characters were all miserable. And now look at them; even worse. Jennie, Sylvester, Hector, Lyta, Beth & Yolanda: dead. Al: murderer. Norda: disfigured and displaced. Henry: possessed and obsessed. Todd: tortured from inside and out. Rick: almost dead from cancer. He and Bones are the only ones who've made lemonade from any of this, fercrissakes! And let's not start about the Freedom Fighters... "
There's Pre-Crisis Earth-1, home of our Superman, Kal-El, and Pre-Crisis Earth-2, home of the original Superman, Kal-L.
Kal-L worked at the Daily Star, not the Daily Planet, didn't have an arctic fortress of solitude, but rather a fortress on a mountain overlooking Metropolis, and most notably, he can't fly, only leap.
Earth-2 is a parallel world to Earth-1, except that Wonder Woman, Batman and Superman started their careers as adults at the start of WWII, so they were considerably older than their Earth-1 counterparts. They also had a completely separate continuity. On Earth-2, Bruce Wayne married Selina Kyle, and had a daughter, Helena Wayne, who became the Huntress, as opposed to Earth-1, where Helena Bertinelli is the Huntress, and aside from wearing a similar costume and working (sort of) with Batman, has no other ties to Bruce Wayne or Catwoman.
Crisis on Infinite Earths destroyed all the dozens of alternate earths, like Earth-Prime (our Earth) and Earth-C, and took the five most prevalent, 1, 2, 4 (Charlton Comics characters, like Blue Beetle, the Atom, Nightshade and the Question), X (home of the Freedom Fighters), and S (Home of Fawcett Comics characters, like Shazam and Black Adam), and meshed them all into one Earth with one common history, and no duplicate characters.
A lot of things got retconned (written out of existence or rewritten so dramatically as to be a completely different entity), mishmashed, etc. Of course it wasn't long before Earth-3 (Home of the Crime Syndicate of Amerika), which was clearly destroyed at the beginning of CoIE, reappeared, so.. who's to say?
It's an ugly thing, pre-Crisis continuity. Essentially, though, as a rule, if it happened before Crisis on Infinite Earths, it -may- have happened, but not necessarily in the way it was shown. The Secret Society mindwipes are a good example of a pre-Crisis event referred to in post-Crisis continuity.
A little rant i read on another website i decided to put here...
"You know, it strikes me as very odd that the Earth-2 "spin" we're being fed is that this was the “better, kinder Earth.” Did Geoff Johns or anyone else ever actually read Infinity, Inc.? Even during the series, the characters were all miserable. And now look at them; even worse. Jennie, Sylvester, Hector, Lyta, Beth & Yolanda: dead. Al: murderer. Norda: disfigured and displaced. Henry: possessed and obsessed. Todd: tortured from inside and out. Rick: almost dead from cancer. He and Bones are the only ones who've made lemonade from any of this, fercrissakes! And let's not start about the Freedom Fighters... "