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PaulTiberius
04-09-2006, 11:28 AM
I'm confused about the Super-Skrull concept. Are there supposed to be many of them? Or, at least, are there more than one currently? I'm trying to figure out if the Super-Skrull in Young Avengers is supposed to be the same character as the one we'll see in Annihilation.

Expletive Deleted
04-09-2006, 01:00 PM
There's just one. YOUNG AVENGERS takes place before ANNIHILATION.

Mothmonsterman
04-09-2006, 01:09 PM
Dear Annihilation,

We're sorry, but you can't use Super Skrull right now. We're using him.

Sincerely,
The Young Avengers creative team

Tommy
04-09-2006, 01:14 PM
The wrench in the machine is the fact that there is a Super Skrull in Runaways who is not the same Super Skrull in YA and Annihilation. And the Runaways SS mentions even more SSs.

mdg1
04-09-2006, 01:23 PM
The one in Runaways is a Super Skrull "in training". Which makes some sense, if you think about it. The one in YA and Annihilation is THE Super Skrull. The original. The model the others must follow.

There's also Paibok the Power Skrull, last seen in the Drax mini, although he has a different power-set.

Doom Hammer
04-09-2006, 03:07 PM
Dear Annihilation,

We're sorry, but you can't use Super Skrull right now. We're using him.

Sincerely,
The Young Avengers creative team

Bitter much?

Mean Mr Mustard
04-09-2006, 03:46 PM
Except they actually asked the YA team if they could use Super Skrull. They said it was fine since the current events take place before anihilation.

PaulTiberius
04-09-2006, 06:36 PM
So, THE Super-Skrull we're seeing in Young Avengers -- Kt'rn or something -- this is the same Super-Skrull who was the nemesis of the FF back in the day?

Expletive Deleted
04-09-2006, 06:41 PM
So, THE Super-Skrull we're seeing in Young Avengers -- Kt'rn or something -- this is the same Super-Skrull who was the nemesis of the FF back in the day?Yep. K'lrt.

Lightbend
04-09-2006, 06:49 PM
From what I can see, there's two designations in this case.

Super-Skrull can be a designation-like SEALs, where the young Skrull in Runaways is in training to develop his super-skrull powers and become an elite in the Skrull military.

Then there's Kl'rt, THE Super-Skrull, who's both the most famous and the prototype of the Super-skrulls. Then you have other, less-successful or less famour SS types, such as the Surfer-Skrull, the Power-Skrull, etc.

The Adventurer
04-09-2006, 11:30 PM
Don't forget Lyja, The Laser Fist.


You know, I almost hope some of these other "Power Skrulls" show up in Super-Skrull. A super powered team of Skrulls taking on the Annihilation Wave would be badass. Kl'rt, Piabok, Lyja, ect...




Hell, I just want to see Lyja again.

dingo
04-09-2006, 11:46 PM
Hell, I just want to see Lyja again.

Hell, I would settle for a passing comment on her fate....

The Adventurer
04-10-2006, 12:28 AM
Lyja was quite possibly one of the most annoying casulties of post Onslaught Fantastic Four. DeFalco spent YEARS building her and her relationship with Johnny up. Only to have it be one of those "things" that got "fixed" and forgotten when the Heroes returned.

So Annoying.

Rich L
04-10-2006, 12:54 AM
Hell, I would settle for a passing comment on her fate....

I was wondering if she might resurface in the FF Death in the Family special -I'm sure at one point Marvel were saying one or two members of the FF would die permanently - and as it's clear that Sue will be better by issue's end, my money was going to be on Lyja and Kristoff. Just about everyone else who has been an FF member is accounted for at the moment.

Well, except Sharon Ventura, Crystal and Medusa, I guess.

EDIT: Just remembered what I actually wanted to say - don't forget Ethan Edwards - wasn't he Kl'rt's son or something?

Cowlander
04-10-2006, 10:18 AM
The one in Runaways is a Super Skrull "in training". Which makes some sense, if you think about it. The one in YA and Annihilation is THE Super Skrull. The original. The model the others must follow.

There's also Paibok the Power Skrull, last seen in the Drax mini, although he has a different power-set.
The one in Runaways was also a sorta prince or something of other Super-Skrulls. It was pretty clear that he was a member of a group of SS's. Which I thought was pretty cool, it didnt make since to just have one. So theirs atleast a large enough population out there to be some sorta political force.

The Adventurer
04-10-2006, 11:50 AM
Did the Runaways's super Skrull have FF like ablities, or different powers?

Cowlander
04-10-2006, 02:48 PM
Did the Runaways's super Skrull have FF like ablities, or different powers?
FF style like the original.

PaulTiberius
04-13-2006, 01:55 AM
In any case, Super-Skrull #1 makes a reference to the Young Avengers stuff finishing up right now.

Jmacq1
04-13-2006, 06:19 AM
There's also "Warskrulls". I think they showed up back in the #270's of "Uncanny X-Men". But basically it seemed like they're bigger, tougher, and stronger than normal Skrulls, and with the help of some funky slime machine-thing, can duplicate the powers of characters that are placed in said funky slime machine (or at least mutants that are, I don't know that anyone outside an X-Book has fought "Warskrulls").

Either way, it seems like it'd be easy to assume the Warskrulls were an outgrowth of the "Super Skrull".

Lanowar
04-13-2006, 12:47 PM
On marvel team up Titannus says he was one of many tested to become the next super skrull.

Dizzy D
04-13-2006, 12:51 PM
There's also "Warskrulls". I think they showed up back in the #270's of "Uncanny X-Men". But basically it seemed like they're bigger, tougher, and stronger than normal Skrulls, and with the help of some funky slime machine-thing, can duplicate the powers of characters that are placed in said funky slime machine (or at least mutants that are, I don't know that anyone outside an X-Book has fought "Warskrulls").

Either way, it seems like it'd be easy to assume the Warskrulls were an outgrowth of the "Super Skrull".

They also duplicated Oracle of the Imperial Guard and the Starjammers so it worked on more than just mutants.

The Adventurer
04-13-2006, 01:19 PM
also on the topic of Skrulls with powers other then shape changing. There are those Mutant Skrulls that were introduced in X-Men back durring the late 90s.

Chi
04-13-2006, 03:33 PM
Yeah that was Xavier's group, Cadre K.
Also in existence were:-
Talos
Bartak
Prime Skrull
Vranx

Ash-$
04-29-2006, 03:36 AM
there were also a couple skrulls who showed up in an issue of fantastic four a few years ago, johnny had some acting job and the super-skrull was the studio make up man, 4 skrulls, each with one of the fantastic fours powers showed, the johnny skrull took off and the other three pretended to be the real FF and convinced johnny to fight the super skrull with them

if i recall the "sue" skrull died, the "reed" skrull was taken into custody, and the other two took off

i don't know if they were ever mentioned again but i guess it could have some connection to the runaways skrull if they wanted

CyberCoyote
04-29-2006, 06:54 AM
Lyja was quite possibly one of the most annoying casulties of post Onslaught Fantastic Four. DeFalco spent YEARS building her and her relationship with Johnny up. Only to have it be one of those "things" that got "fixed" and forgotten when the Heroes returned.

So Annoying.

Worst part of that being the fact that she and Johnny were just restoking the flames in the Onslaught Saga :( I was so ready for her to come back when Heroes Returned, but alas...

Zero Hunter
04-29-2006, 12:54 PM
The thing about the Skrulls is that their entire empire has been in flux ever since Galactus destroyed their throneworld. So it would make sence that every warlord with the means would try and create some superpowered soilders to serve his cause against the rest. What might curb this is the thought by some is that if the empire is ever put back together under the rule of one leader (and I kinda think it will happen by hints here and there in some books) are they really going to want all these superpowered agents out their with different loyalties? I am sure most of the warlords have to have thought about ways to deal with them just in case the superpowered ones decided to take control themselves.


With that being said none of the newbies have anything on old Kl'rt. He is the original and still the baddest of the bad. He is loyal to no one but the empire and his people, and he puts the welfare of the empire before those of indivdual leaders.

doomworm
05-02-2006, 01:41 AM
With that being said none of the newbies have anything on old Kl'rt. He is the original and still the baddest of the bad. He is loyal to no one but the empire and his people, and he puts the welfare of the empire before those of indivdual leaders.
Agreed. He is THE SuperSkrull. He would also (seriously) be my choice for leader
of the Skrulls if they could create a united force during Annihilation. I think they already have a leader, but my lack of certainty makes me wonder if SuperSkrull as leader isn't simply way past due. He is definately the standard-bearer.

There are the War Skrulls, and the mutant Skrulls, and Xavin from Runaways (who we should see again in about two months) who has stated that he is Super-Skrull-in-Training, indicating that the Skrulls are possibly trying to mass-produce soldiers with the Fantastic Four's powers.

I really miss Lyja, although I suppose I haven't seen her in...what, sixteen years or so personally? I didn't know where her story went, and from what I'm reading it didn't go anywhere. Anyone who could flesh it out for me would have a week or two of my personal thanks.

Sean Whitmore
05-29-2006, 09:36 PM
Edit - posted in the wrong spot.

The Adventurer
05-29-2006, 09:42 PM
Ronan #2 brought up another "super" Skrull

Talos.

Anyone got any info on this guy? He looks cyberised and uses constructs.

Expletive Deleted
05-30-2006, 06:49 AM
Talos the Tamed (http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix/talos.htm)