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SUPERECWFAN1
04-06-2006, 07:46 PM
Over at www.mtv.com , Thomas Dolby ( She Blinded Me with Science !) is pretty angry at Kevin Federline. And this time its about Kentucky Fried Federline's stupiedity in lifting Dolby's classic for his rap song : " America's Most Hated ".


Dolby says he has issued licenses to Mobb Deep to use his track and for movies and tv shows as well. But in this case Dolby 1st heard this online and was gonna let it go. Then VH1 and other places picked it up.

In the funniest line of this Dolby claims that stars like Vanelli Ice lift songs at times and get caught. " But the differance between Vanelli Ice and Federline is that Vanelli Ice is a Superstar compared to this guy ! "

He has also said he will not allow Federline to use his song due to the fact the song is " evil ". At the end Federline's MySpace had to remove the track and Jive Records have said thier looking into it. Of course Dolby claims that Jive isn't gonna do squat to Federline due to the fact he's married to Britney Spears and she's a cash cow for the label.

KenK
04-06-2006, 08:39 PM
SCIENCE!!!

The Punished
04-07-2006, 10:14 AM
Does this finally mean we are gonna see more of Thomas Dolby?

He fell off the world after that song?

He needs a reboot to his career but I also would not let a no-talent trash hack like K-Fed use my one moment of brilliance either.

SUPERECWFAN1
04-07-2006, 10:53 AM
Does this finally mean we are gonna see more of Thomas Dolby?

He fell off the world after that song?

He needs a reboot to his career but I also would not let a no-talent trash hack like K-Fed use my one moment of brilliance either.


Actually Dolby in that article plans his 1st Club tour in 15 years. He owns a company that sells ringtones and left music in the late 80's. Now he's planning a return.

Shellhead
04-07-2006, 11:30 AM
Does this finally mean we are gonna see more of Thomas Dolby?

He fell off the world after that song?

He needs a reboot to his career but I also would not let a no-talent trash hack like K-Fed use my one moment of brilliance either.

Thomas Dolby had a moderately successful comeback album in the early 90's with the adult contempory music crowd... the same people who were buying all those Sting solo albums and suddenly digging Bonnie Raitt and Chris Isaak.

I didn't mind Federline so much when he was just a trashy badboy screwing up Britney's life, but when he starts ripping off legitimte musicians, I would be happy to witness his painful and humiliating death.

Leslie Lee III
04-07-2006, 12:52 PM
Rip off or did he just, gasp, use a sample on an unreleased mixtape track? You know, the same thing 50 billion other rappers (yes, even the ones people on message boards think are "real hip hop") do constantly?

sixstringguild
04-07-2006, 12:57 PM
Should we place our bets right now on how many more years until K-Fed is on "The Surreal Life"? I'm saying 4.

Deathstroke
04-07-2006, 01:46 PM
I'd so love to see anyone even Thomas Dolby just do a beatdown on this "gives even greasy scumbag deadbeat dads a bad name" moron.

SUPERECWFAN1
04-07-2006, 02:10 PM
Rip off or did he just, gasp, use a sample on an unreleased mixtape track? You know, the same thing 50 billion other rappers (yes, even the ones people on message boards think are "real hip hop") do constantly?


Federline tried to use the sample Mobb Deep had. Dolby in this said that even if you do that you gotta go to the source and get the artists permission to sample it. He used the fact that Vanilla Ice lifted a mix from David Bowie that was lifted from Queen in this. Mobb came to Dolby and asked to use it and he allowed it....Federline didn't.

Plus I'll take the Radio DJ's who played a minute of Federline's : America's Most Hated , which is him screaming how people hate him and how US Weekly can go fuck themselves for calling him a deadbeat and lazy son of a bitch. :p

The Punished
04-07-2006, 02:50 PM
I saw where are they now I think on vh1 where Dolby discussed he was doing the ringtones. What amazes me more he is still married to Katherine Beller from Dynasty. Ya think Brits & K-Fed will last as long? I don't.

Leslie Lee III
04-07-2006, 08:34 PM
Federline tried to use the sample Mobb Deep had.

That doesn't make much sense. If he wants to sample the song he doesn't need to get it from Mobb Deep. However, did he just put a freestyle over the beat Mobb Deep created with the sample? If he did that he's not doing anything a billion other rappers don't do on a weekly basis.

SUPERECWFAN1
04-07-2006, 08:43 PM
That doesn't make much sense. If he wants to sample the song he doesn't need to get it from Mobb Deep. However, did he just put a freestyle over the beat Mobb Deep created with the sample? If he did that he's not doing anything a billion other rappers don't do on a weekly basis.

Remember Wierd Al Yankovic using Gangsta's Paradise's music ? I remember Al's manager said that they had to pay Coolio for it. I believe this is what Dolby is referin to. He wants to use Dolby's music to lay his swearing freestyle on ala Deep.

Chiasm
04-07-2006, 09:34 PM
I just wish all the no talent samplers would go away. Wanna make a song, make your riffs to go with it. :mad:

DDM
04-08-2006, 08:44 AM
I saw where are they now I think on vh1 where Dolby discussed he was doing the ringtones. What amazes me more he is still married to Katherine Beller from Dynasty. Ya think Brits & K-Fed will last as long? I don't.

Kevin Federline left his pregnant girlfriend for Britney Spears since she too was pregnant with his child. I see Federline has an affair with another woman & Britney catches him in the act. No, the Britney-Kevin marriage will not last. He's a deadbeat dad. Britney Spears is not much better than Kevin Federline. She's just as flakey.

SUPERECWFAN1
04-08-2006, 03:08 PM
Kevin Federline left his pregnant girlfriend for Britney Spears since she too was pregnant with his child. I see Federline has an affair with another woman & Britney catches him in the act. No, the Britney-Kevin marriage will not last. He's a deadbeat dad. Britney Spears is not much better than Kevin Federline. She's just as flakey.


I see her and Kevin as 2 of the worst representives of celeb hicks now. Not because they are famous. Its the attitude they both use. Kevin thinks people should respect him right off the bat. But he's just a failure who was drinkin in a bar when a desperate girl who happened to be rich stumbled in.

DDM
04-08-2006, 03:48 PM
I see her and Kevin as 2 of the worst representives of celeb hicks now. Not because they are famous. Its the attitude they both use. Kevin thinks people should respect him right off the bat. But he's just a failure who was drinkin in a bar when a desperate girl who happened to be rich stumbled in.

Kevin Federline could have built a good reputation being a choreographer since he is a former dancer, but he threw it away to ride Britney's coattails. I don't think Federline has ever used a condom considering most of his girlfriends end up pregnant...

Leslie Lee III
04-08-2006, 04:16 PM
Remember Wierd Al Yankovic using Gangsta's Paradise's music ? I remember Al's manager said that they had to pay Coolio for it. I believe this is what Dolby is referin to. He wants to use Dolby's music to lay his swearing freestyle on ala Deep.

Okay if that's the case this is incredibly stupid and shows how ignorant some people are of hip hop. As whack as K-Fed (lol) is, he's not doing anything a billion other rappers don't do. But, unlike them, he wasn't selling the track, was he? I doubt I'll see any of his mixtapes on the block.

Magneto_X
04-08-2006, 04:33 PM
" But the differance between Vanelli Ice and Federline is that Vanelli Ice is a Superstar compared to this guy ! "


That's true. At least Ice had some #1 hits. Federline can't say that much.

SUPERECWFAN1
04-08-2006, 04:40 PM
Okay if that's the case this is incredibly stupid and shows how ignorant some people are of hip hop. As whack as K-Fed (lol) is, he's not doing anything a billion other rappers don't do. But, unlike them, he wasn't selling the track, was he? I doubt I'll see any of his mixtapes on the block.


He is trying to sell it. This is what Dolby thought when it put on his web blog or site. Then he heard it was playing on VH1 and took steps to stop it. He was gonna let it slide judgin from the article as long as K-Fucked wasn't gonna try and make money from it. The moment he tried is what Dolby is stoppin. ;)

Leslie Lee III
04-08-2006, 04:46 PM
He is trying to sell it.

Where? When? How? Did he make money when it played on VH1? I doubt he made a video for it, was it just a news story on a clip show that had a sample of the song?

That's true. At least Ice had some #1 hits. Federline can't say that much.

It's a little hard to have #1 hits when you've never put out an album.

DDM
04-08-2006, 05:23 PM
Okay if that's the case this is incredibly stupid and shows how ignorant some people are of hip hop. As whack as K-Fed (lol) is, he's not doing anything a billion other rappers don't do. But, unlike them, he wasn't selling the track, was he? I doubt I'll see any of his mixtapes on the block.

Taking music samples from established music artists is a no-no; it's actually illegal. Federline must secure some kind of release from the artist to use the sample with his or her permission. Usually, this means the artist has to pay a licensing fee to the artist to use the sample. It also means that if the Federline song becomes a hit, he also has to pay Dolby a portion of his money he made from the song. Dolby has every right to put a stop to Federline's song.

Leslie Lee III
04-08-2006, 05:48 PM
Taking music samples from established music artists is a no-no; it's actually illegal. Federline must secure some kind of release from the artist to use the sample with his or her permission. Usually, this means the artist has to pay a licensing fee to the artist to use the sample. It also means that if the Federline song becomes a hit, he also has to pay Dolby a portion of his money he made from the song. Dolby has every right to put a stop to Federline's song.

Okay, let me restate to get everyone who is in the dark about hip hop:

You see how you have both of Kanye West's CDs you bought from the store? Well believe it or not those may not be the only music he puts out. See, rappers regularly put out these things called "mixtapes" (although they usually aren't tapes). These mixtapes usually consist of a collection of unreleased or pre-release material from albums and freestyles over, and this is the part that concerns K-Fed, beats from other acts. For example, the Diplomats recently put out one where Juelz Santana rapped over the beat for "Stay Fly" by the Three Six Mafia. This isn't because Juelz is a "insert whatever name you just called K-Fed", but because he liked the beat and wanted to flow over it. Stuff like this is done constantly. K-Fed probably wasn't trying to "steal" anyones music, and I'm still waiting on word for him actually trying to sell it. What he did was no different than you recording yourself singing karaoke or a cover band really.

KenK
04-08-2006, 06:10 PM
Kevin Federline could have built a good reputation being a choreographer since he is a former dancer, but he threw it away to ride Britney's coattails. I don't think Federline has ever used a condom considering most of his girlfriends end up pregnant...

Yeah, why not just stick to what you know?

SUPERECWFAN1
04-08-2006, 09:24 PM
Okay, let me restate to get everyone who is in the dark about hip hop:

You see how you have both of Kanye West's CDs you bought from the store? Well believe it or not those may not be the only music he puts out. See, rappers regularly put out these things called "mixtapes" (although they usually aren't tapes). These mixtapes usually consist of a collection of unreleased or pre-release material from albums and freestyles over, and this is the part that concerns K-Fed, beats from other acts. For example, the Diplomats recently put out one where Juelz Santana rapped over the beat for "Stay Fly" by the Three Six Mafia. This isn't because Juelz is a "insert whatever name you just called K-Fed", but because he liked the beat and wanted to flow over it. Stuff like this is done constantly. K-Fed probably wasn't trying to "steal" anyones music, and I'm still waiting on word for him actually trying to sell it. What he did was no different than you recording yourself singing karaoke or a cover band really.

What happens when you try and sell your version of " Freebird " from your cover band ? You'd still have to pay a fee to the artists and Dolby even says that Mobb Deep may have to look into this from whats said in the MTV article.

Dolby , to clear it up ....got wind of Federline's hip hop song when users at his site gave him the link. He didn't have a problem with it til he heard Federline intended to sell his song on the album and promoted that fact on the VH1 show.

This is where Dolby drew the line. He contacted his lawyers and the result was Federline has removed the song from his MySpace.

Leslie Lee III
04-08-2006, 09:57 PM
What happens when you try and sell your version of " Freebird " from your cover band ? You'd still have to pay a fee to the artists and Dolby even says that Mobb Deep may have to look into this from whats said in the MTV article.

Dolby , to clear it up ....got wind of Federline's hip hop song when users at his site gave him the link. He didn't have a problem with it til he heard Federline intended to sell his song on the album and promoted that fact on the VH1 show.

This is where Dolby drew the line. He contacted his lawyers and the result was Federline has removed the song from his MySpace.

I found the article earlier, but I and don't recall any mention of K-Fed selling the song or showing an intention to sell the song. Point me to it please.

Adam Crocker
04-08-2006, 10:12 PM
He used the fact that Vanilla Ice lifted a mix from David Bowie that was lifted from Queen in this.

David Bowie didn't lift from "Under Pressure." He collaborated with Queen on the song.

SUPERECWFAN1
04-08-2006, 10:25 PM
David Bowie didn't lift from "Under Pressure." He collaborated with Queen on the song.


I always thought he did something else with thier background. ;)


Looking at Queen III you are right. My mistake...

SUPERECWFAN1
04-08-2006, 10:29 PM
I found the article earlier, but I and don't recall any mention of K-Fed selling the song or showing an intention to sell the song. Point me to it please.


He is selling the song..." America's Most Hated " is supposed to be on his next album. Radio stations have already started playing it . This is what Dolby is pissed about...he intended to release it on his album.

Adam Crocker
04-08-2006, 10:33 PM
I always thought he did something else with thier background. ;)

You're thinking of Mick Jagger.

http://www.algonet.se/~earflaps/bowie/pv85c.jpg

SUPERECWFAN1
04-08-2006, 11:00 PM
You're thinking of Mick Jagger.

http://www.algonet.se/~earflaps/bowie/pv85c.jpg


I maybe thinking of that.

Sabrinaset
04-08-2006, 11:10 PM
That's true. At least Ice had some #1 hits. Federline can't say that much.


I bet Vanilla Ice is pretty upset about being compared to K-Fed. Obviously, these two need to have a dance-off or something. Or maybe they should just line up and let me shoot the both of them. If they live, they win. Now that's gangsta! :)