Spider-man and Civil War

[Iron Syndicate]

So...

Spider-Man is shaping up to be a pretty crucial and central figure in Civil War. Which is great for me, as I am a hugh Spidey fan, and he is probably my favorite comic-character of all times.

So this thread is a place to discuss Spidey's role in the upcoming conflict. Obviously he has much to gain and lose from siding with either side... so what do you think?
What is the right side for Spidey?
What will the outcome be?
Where will Spidey be standing (if at all...) when the dust settles?

[Dark Soul # 7]

What is the right side for Spidey?Well the side that he logically would take, considering the character, is against the super-human registration act. But since Stark will hold him in debt for the new costume and question his loyalty as a friend and hero, or something like that, it seems that Peter will be on Iron man´s side to start with, and I think that is the pro-registration side. But the cover for issue 2 of Civil War has Spidey in the middle of the two groups with his right half being his new costume and his left halg being his old one. So in that issue he might ask himself if he´s his own individual that will stand up for what he truley believes in or will be loyal to his latest father figure/hero buddy and go against his belifs to make the world safer.
What will the outcome be?Hopefully that Spidey ends up on the anti-registration side.
Where will Spidey be standing (if at all...) when the dust settles?I hope he stands on the winning side. If there is a winning side.

[Billy Parker]

I'm definitely on the ol' webhead's side, whichever side that will be!

[mattspideyrocks!]

Same here! Let's go Spidey! It's your time to shine! Kick ass! :)

[Billy Parker]

Same here! Let's go Spidey! It's your time to shine! Kick ass! :)
Right on Spidey!

[streator]

i foresee spidey ditching the iron-spidey costume in the end (it was mentioned as temporary, if i recall), which may or may not foreshadow where he will end up concerning civil war.

[mattspideyrocks!]

i foresee spidey ditching the iron-spidey costume in the end (it was mentioned as temporary, if i recall), which may or may not foreshadow where he will end up concerning civil war.

Most likely. That looks to be one of the things that is most probably to happen right now.

[Dark Soul # 7]

Most likely. That looks to be one of the things that is most probably to happen right now.I think that whatever costume he has it will refelct on who´s side he´s on.
With the old costume he´s on Captain America´s side.
With the new costume he´s on Iron man´s side.

Also I think that something will come between Peter´s and Tony´s friendship where Tony will start regarding Peter as a threat and then activate a fail-safe that he probably has installed in the new costume. A moment like that will possibly be the turning point for Spider-man in this conflict.

[CMBMOOL]

I think that whatever costume he has it will refelct on who´s side he´s on.
With the old costume he´s on Captain America´s side.
With the new costume he´s on Iron man´s side.

Also I think that something will come between Peter´s and Tony´s friendship where Tony will start regarding Peter as a threat and then activate a fail-safe that he probably has installed in the new costume. A moment like that will possibly be the turning point for Spider-man in this conflict.



THAT WOULD BE SO UNDER HANDED OF TONY TO DO TO PETER. I, LIKE MOST SPIDEY FANS, WANT THE ORIGINAL COSTUME TO RETURN BY THE END OF CIVIL WAR!!! :)

[jam1]

Spider-Man's and Mary Jane's marriage better have nothing to do with Civil War and Quesada's "second genie". That's all I'm saying.

[Dark Soul # 7]

THAT WOULD BE SO UNDER HANDED OF TONY TO DO TO PETER. I LIKE MOST SPIDEY FANS WANT THE ORIGINAL COSTUME TO RETURN BY THE END OF CIVIL WAR!!! :)Don´t scream.
We all know it´s coming back by the end of the year.

[Iron Syndicate]

Spider-Man's and Mary Jane's marriage better have nothing to do with Civil War and Quesada's "second genie". That's all I'm saying.

Joe Q' has gone on record saying that the other genie has nothing to do with Pete's marriage...

[jam1]

Quesada lies.

Plus he didn't say that, all he said they wouldn't divorce which leaves other ways for dissolving it.

[ShaggyB]

whos side is Cap on?

I figured hed be the governments poster boy for registering, I mean what does he have to loose, everyone knows his real name (at least in the govt.) hes a soldier. Besides he has nothing to loose by having his name known, he goes by cap all the time.

Spidey on the other hand, he has everything to loose by registering. Its confusing the division of sides. someone do explain what marvel has said for me

[Violently Apathetic]

I figured hed be the governments poster boy for registering, I mean what does he have to loose, everyone knows his real name (at least in the govt.) hes a soldier. Besides he has nothing to loose by having his name known, he goes by cap all the time.


See, I disagree, it's been stated by others more eloquently than I could ever manage, but Captain America dislikes being used as a poster boy for the government and does not feel particularly loyal to any Administration. He is a man lead by his own personal conscience and interpretation on what it means to be American, not by what the government says. If he disagrees with the registration act (and I can't see why he wouldn't) he will likely fight it.

That's why even ultra Liberal Canadians like myself love him despite his obviously nationalistic origin.

[Effect]

Joe Q' has gone on record saying that the other genie has nothing to do with Pete's marriage...

Anyone care to explain this genie thing?

[StoneGold]

Spidey on the other hand, he has everything to loose by registering. Its confusing the division of sides. someone do explain what marvel has said for me
If you would read the threads, you would see it has already been done. Cap has never been written as the character you apparently see him as. And Spider-Man is mostly a proponent of registration because of his loyalties to Stark, and, I'm assuming, as a reaction to Nita and Nitro blowing up those kids. Because let's face it, blowing up a schoolground full of kids will change a lot of peoples' minds about stuff. But Spidey switches sides before the whole thing is over. JMS already said as much.

[StoneGold]

Anyone care to explain this genie thing?
Something JoeQ talked about in an interview a while back. Stuff he wanted to have fixed in the MU. One was too many mutants. But he has another.

[ShaggyB]

If you would read the threads, you would see it has already been done. Cap has never been written as the character you apparently see him as. And Spider-Man is mostly a proponent of registration because of his loyalties to Stark, and, I'm assuming, as a reaction to Nita and Nitro blowing up those kids.

whoa whoa whoa, i never said cap wasnt his on man, i said its a matter of public record his identity. hes soldier who participated in a project to create a super soldier (or was that retcon'd?) I just saw them using him as a hey see captain is really... you should come forward too. But if im wrong im wrong just explain it to me or post me a link, im not gonna search it.

AS to spidey, screw the alliance with tony stark, spider-mans world revolves around the duality of his personas. oh well ill read it myself and enjoy the character growth

[StoneGold]

But if im wrong im wrong just explain it to me or post me a link, im not gonna search it.


So you want to be a lazy. OK, I'll tell you, but I have to berate you about it, because it's been explained several times and you're a lazy punk. Yes, puny Steve Rogers volunteered for a project to stop the Nazis. But that was at least 15 years of Cap's life ago. Since then, he's been manipulated and screwed over by the US government in several major storylines. To the point where one of the last times it happened, he quit being Cap, rather than deal with the whole thing.

[stillanerd]

As I said in another thread, I hope JMS doesn't end up having Spider-Man reveal his identity to the public in the final part of the "Road to Civil War" arc in Amazing Spider-Man. If Spider-Man was unmasked himself in front of, say, dozen of cameras and news reporters on the steps of the Capitol Building, it would take real wiggle room for Marvel to somehow make Peter have a secret identity again. One possible case could be everyone thinks Peter isn't the real Spidey because he's wearing the "Iron Spidey" costume and Stark could just say Peter was hired by him as a "Spider-Man," but even so, it would be a real mess to clean up.

[Will.S]

As I said in another thread, I hope JMS doesn't end up having Spider-Man reveal his identity to the public in the final part of the "Road to Civil War" arc in Amazing Spider-Man. If Spider-Man was unmasked himself in front of, say, dozen of cameras and news reporters on the steps of the Capitol Building, it would take real wiggle room for Marvel to somehow make Peter have a secret identity again. One possible case could be everyone thinks Peter isn't the real Spidey because he's wearing the "Iron Spidey" costume and Stark could just say Peter was hired by him as a "Spider-Man," but even so, it would be a real mess to clean up.
Yeah, same here.

[CMBMOOL]

I had a weird dream in which involves Spidey and Green Goblin duking it out just as Spider-man was revealing his secret Id during a press confrence.

The Goblin, after being unmasked, was about the unreaveal Spider-man's mask, but just as in Spectacular Spider-man Vol. Dangerous, he pulls the same trick that fooled Doc. Ock.

As it turns out he used Dr. Doom's time machine and pulls out an younger Spider-man from an previous time period, used him to as the regular Spider-man and Peter Parker was himself, so it will make the Goblin/ Norman look worst as he continues to attack Peter, but he get cartered away to jail and out of time Spidey is placed back in his own time line while, Peter secret is saved once more.

S0 what do you the fans think of this idea, because I have a feeling that their will be a BIG super villian battle at the end or is that DC ? :confused:

[Dark Soul # 7]

I had a weird dream in which involves Spidey and Green Goblin duking it out just as Spider-man was revealing his secret Id during a press confrence.

The Goblin, after being unmasked, was about the unreaveal Spider-man's mask, but just as in Spectacular Spider-man Vol. Dangerous, he pulls the same trick that fooled Doc. Ock.

As it turns out he used Dr. Doom's time machine and pulls out an younger Spider-man from an previous time period, used him to as the regular Spider-man and Peter Parker was himself, so it will make the Goblin/ Norman look worst as he continues to attack Peter, but he get cartered away to jail and out of time Spidey is placed back in his own time line while, Peter secret is saved once more.

S0 what do you the fans think of this idea, because I have a feeling that their will be a BIG super villian battle at the end or is that DC ? :confused:Sounds very un-Marvel in every asspect of everything about it.
It won´t happen and I´m happy for that.

[Buddman]

I'm new here and this is my first reply, so here it goes.

As a Spidey fan for 30 plus years, I think I know him pretty well. He tends to hold his father figures up in pretty high regard. I think he will go along with Tony and out his identity in the Iron Spidey costume. After a few issues of Civil War, I believe that the "Secret Identities" held by the government of those who have registered will fall into hands of some noteworthy villian or organization such as Hydra. This would go along with what Spider Woman has been saying along with Nick Fury that SHIELD has been infiltrated and is possibly under enemy control.

I think this will bring about exactly what Spidey and the anti-registration heros feared all along and there will be threats to their family and loved ones. I sincerely believe that this will bring about the death of Mary Jane and/or Aunt May, and thus the death of the new Iron Spidey persona allowing for the full time return of the old spidey costume. But obviously, Spidey will be profoundly changed.

Any thoughts?

[32Cage]

I'm new here and this is my first reply, so here it goes.

As a Spidey fan for 30 plus years, I think I know him pretty well. He tends to hold his father figures up in pretty high regard. I think he will go along with Tony and out his identity in the Iron Spidey costume. After a few issues of Civil War, I believe that the "Secret Identities" held by the government of those who have registered will fall into hands of some noteworthy villian or organization such as Hydra. This would go along with what Spider Woman has been saying along with Nick Fury that SHIELD has been infiltrated and is possibly under enemy control.

I think this will bring about exactly what Spidey and the anti-registration heros feared all along and there will be threats to their family and loved ones. I sincerely believe that this will bring about the death of Mary Jane and/or Aunt May, and thus the death of the new Iron Spidey persona allowing for the full time return of the old spidey costume. But obviously, Spidey will be profoundly changed.

Any thoughts?

That is an interesting insight. In principle i agree with you. I think Spidey feels committed to Tony because of his promise to support him. Yet he will be torn in following a path inconsistent with his roots. In other words his head is with Stark, but his heart is with anti-registration. At the end of the day, he will follow his heart. Hopefully without first having to lose Mary Jane or Aunt May.

[CMBMOOL]

I'm new here and this is my first reply, so here it goes.

As a Spidey fan for 30 plus years, I think I know him pretty well. He tends to hold his father figures up in pretty high regard. I think he will go along with Tony and out his identity in the Iron Spidey costume. After a few issues of Civil War, I believe that the "Secret Identities" held by the government of those who have registered will fall into hands of some noteworthy villian or organization such as Hydra. This would go along with what Spider Woman has been saying along with Nick Fury that SHIELD has been infiltrated and is possibly under enemy control.

I think this will bring about exactly what Spidey and the anti-registration heros feared all along and there will be threats to their family and loved ones. I sincerely believe that this will bring about the death of Mary Jane and/or Aunt May, and thus the death of the new Iron Spidey persona allowing for the full time return of the old spidey costume. But obviously, Spidey will be profoundly changed.

Any thoughts?


You know what, that is a great idea, I mean if Tony can fake out Iron Man's ID then Peter can stated that the "original" Spider-man is a whole other person while he employed by stark to play Iron Spidey. It better than what I have. :)

[CMBMOOL]

From What I heard is that Spidey will start off in iron Man side but he'll see he made the wrong decision and switch back to the anti side of the war. :)

[Martin Finlay]

As a Spidey fan for 30 plus years, I think I know him pretty well. He tends to hold his father figures up in pretty high regard.

That reminded me of something. In one of the first issues where Spider-Man becomes an Avenger, he thinks about how Captain America reminds him of Uncle Ben, the way he talked.

If he sees Cap in this way, then he might agree with him over Tony.

[Nomad]

When I was checking marvel.com for subscriptions a few months ago, one of the Spider-man monthly books had a blurb that mentioned Peter Parker taking self-defense classes with Cap Am. Did that happen in one of the primary MU spidey books, or was that like mj loves spider-man, or something?

[mattspideyrocks!]

When I was checking marvel.com for subscriptions a few months ago, one of the Spider-man monthly books had a blurb that mentioned Peter Parker taking self-defense classes with Cap Am. Did that happen in one of the primary MU spidey books, or was that like mj loves spider-man, or something?

That was in the first part of The Other. Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man #1.

[Nomad]

I came in when he was fighting that vampiric dude. So he was trained by Cap and still got his ass kicked?

[mattspideyrocks!]

I came in when he was fighting that vampiric dude. So he was trained by Cap and still got his ass kicked?

Trust me Nomad. Spidey getting trained by Cap could not help him against an enemy like Morlun. You read the fight. It doesn't matter.