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Origami
04-05-2006, 05:56 AM
Q:How will the world look like 20 years from now??
This whole Illegal immigration issue has got me thinking about just how the world will look like 20 years from. Will we leave anything behind for our posterity?
Well, I hope I'm wrong, but, here's my prediction for the three major Continents:
America:
20 years from now, America will eventually go bankrupt. With deficit spending, the misguided war on terrorism, and the influx of illegal aliens with the help of corrupt politicians, America will cease to be a strong country.
Corrupt, Right Wing Globalist and Left Wing Socialist will eventually sell this country out, if it's people do not wake up soon enough to stop it.
Likely scenerio:
Balkanization, race riots, extreme povery, corruptions. It will look very much like a third rate Mexican government.
What's the Answer?:
We need to secure our borders, get rid of corrupt politicians who's not listening to the hard working American citizens. Very strong third party might solve this problem. Will that happen? Not likely.
Europe:
Europe will not fare any better. If what's happening in France is any indication.
Europe will continue on it's downward spiral, mired in Socialism and influx of Moslim Extremists, Europe will look very different from what it is today. Unable to extricate itself from Socialist bureaucracy from within and Moslim invasion without.
The naive population of Europe will be replace by Moslims who will eventually become the majority in Europe. Setting up a Muslim Republic, forcing French people to learn how to wear burqas.
There will continue to be race riots, and socialist demonstration. Eurpoean society will begin to break down becoming even more mediocre than it is now.
Asia:
The biggest winner in all this may be Asia. China will become a major Super Power and replace America as a dominate Military Force in the world. Much of Asia will continue to rise economically. Not mired in issues of Illegal Immigration issues, much of which is destroying the West, Asia may become a dominant military and economic power in the near future. Ironically, it's xenophobic nature maybe it's saving grace.
Roquefort Raider
04-05-2006, 06:26 AM
X-fans will argue about Jean Grey's recent death.
spideyrules99
04-05-2006, 08:47 AM
I do agree with you on a couple points. I think China will be the powerhouse in the way of money and mght soon. I think that the us is on a downward slope. We are streched to thin with no real plan on how to get out. We spend to much money, send jobs overseas, do nothing to stop the flow of illeagal aliens, and allow our politicians to lie cheat and steal from us every chance they get. I can see America falling from the top spot and lets be honest its now ones fault but our own.
20 years from now will be a very bleak place.
SUPERECWFAN1
04-05-2006, 09:24 AM
Q:How will the world look like 20 years from now??
This whole Illegal immigration issue has got me thinking about just how the world will look like 20 years from. Will we leave anything behind for our posterity?
Well, I hope I'm wrong, but, here's my prediction for the three major Continents:
America:
America will more than likely after Bush restructure and fix the Trillions in deficit spending we owe. It happened in the 1990's and it can happen here.
The world is always changing. Just because the country owes millions doesn't mean theres no possible way out. By 2026 we'll more than likely be 10 to 14 years removed from our last bits of time in Iraq.
Likely scenerio: You'll see a more left leaning government more or less. The USA will still be a Global powerhouse but not be on top. The country will not go broke. Inflation right now is being kept in check so its not gonna happen.
What's the Answer?: Well we really need to find an alternate powersource so our dependance on oil goes down. Once we explore alternate energy we can really set the table on the spending. Other countries will soon follow and our biggest problem will be solved.
Odds are technology will take a sharp increase more than likely.
Asia:
The Chinese I think will face thier own problems. Years of borrowing money and the fact thier countrymen want more freedoms seem to support a problem there.
Over population , inflation possibly and the questions of Government will be the big issues for China.
Karl J. Barnes
04-05-2006, 09:40 AM
X-fans will argue about Jean Grey's recent death.
Clamoring about her return...SOON!
Spider-man will have ANOTHER crisis of Faith about being Spider-man and fight the Green Goblin for the billionth time to only find out that Aunt May has been THE GREEN GOBLIN all along!
Batman will die only to revived through a strange ritual of sacrificing young boys named Robin. Wonder Woman will finally become a lesbian, fighting for gay couples adoption. Superman will impregate himself, thus birthing the one TRUE Superboy.
Iangould
04-06-2006, 12:55 AM
[Not mired in issues of Illegal Immigration issues, much of which is destroying the West,...
Except for Khmer and Lao illegal immigration into Vietnam; Burmese illegal immigration into Thailand; Indonesian illegal immigration into Malaysia; Bangladeshi illegal immigration into India; Chinese and Korean illegal immigration into Japan and the estimated 50 million Chinese who've moved illegally from rural areas to the cities.
gary bolt
04-06-2006, 01:05 AM
I don't have much to say about politics other than I believe China and India will have far more financial clout than they have now.
The big changes will be environmental. Global warming trends we see now will be far more obvious with coastal flooding and extreme weather changes affecting most countries. Oil shortages will drive the cost of everything up through the roof.
Iangould
04-06-2006, 01:10 AM
Double post
Iangould
04-06-2006, 01:10 AM
The Chinese I think will face thier own problems. Years of borrowing money and the fact thier countrymen want more freedoms seem to support a problem there.
Over population , inflation possibly and the questions of Government will be the big issues for China.
1. China has amongst the highest savings rates in the world. They are net lenders not net borrowers.
2. China's main population problem will probable be the decline in the working population and the increasing number of pensioners as the effects of the One Child Policy work through the system.
China's main population problem is likely to be too few people, not too many.
OzBat!
04-06-2006, 01:16 AM
I agree that Asia will be an economic powerhouse. The centre of civilization's growth and prosperity appears to be continuing on its eastward march: from the ancient civilisations in the middle east, to the mediteranean, to europe, skipping over to the americas, now back to "the East" (or Orient? Is that term still kosher?), and eventually, maybe, back around to the middle east.
I don't think The United States of America will implode that badly. There's gonna be more social upheavals, but the nation's constitutional framework is set up to provide those checks and balances everybody's panicking about right now. Two presidential terms only, and then you've got a change in who's running the ship. If there's a strong enough backlash in the electorate, things will balance out in the long run. You've had enough of these rebounds in the last few centuries to see how it works, I think.
I do think, however, that the USA will lose its prestige. Much like the great Colonial powers of the past two centuries, Great Britain, France, Portugal, the Dutch... your influence will wane and you'll be wondering "what happened to the glory days?". Maybe it'll take another war, a depression or two, before that'll pan out.
Europe: I don't agree with the whole "muslim invasion" scenario. That's been played out in Europe already. There's looking like a gradual increase in home grown muslims who will definitely influence where things are heading, but there's no single overarching caliphate or whatever back in the Muslim heartlands to unite all these disparate groups. French muslims aren't the same as Italian muslims or spanish muslims or Slovakian muslims, just the same as there are differences between Saudis and Iranians and Kuwaitis and Kurds and Turks, etc.
With this in mind, I'm inclined to think that any attempts to take over any of Europe's lands and declare an islamic state on european soil would be foolhardy. There's too many separate ethnic groups that would boil over for this to happen. Having just written that, I can envisage it being tried once, and the backlash being so nasty that nobody tries it again anywhere else. We're already seeing this to some degree in France. Europe is gonna be a mess with ethnic rivalries for some time to come, but I don't see national borders or identities changing overly much.
And that, is how I think things will pan out! shakes crystal ball/snowglobe, puts it back up on the shelf.
Pól Rua
04-06-2006, 01:25 AM
Q:How will the world look like 20 years from now??
Right-wing nutbags will be claiming that the world will end soon, and that those dirty liberals will be the cause.
Closeted racists will still be spouting hatred of people whose skin is a different colour to them on the grounds that these brown people will overwhelm our pure, white, Christian culture.
Religious bigots will claim that unless we violently and unilaterally do unto them, they will surely do unto us.
And, as has been the case since humanity has been able to concieve of the end of the world, the end of the world shall be nigh.
superion
04-06-2006, 08:13 AM
Except for Khmer and Lao illegal immigration into Vietnam; Burmese illegal immigration into Thailand; Indonesian illegal immigration into Malaysia; Bangladeshi illegal immigration into India; Chinese and Korean illegal immigration into Japan and the estimated 50 million Chinese who've moved illegally from rural areas to the cities.
Um how are Chinese citizens moving about within their own borders the same as illegal immigration? So when New Yorkers retire to Florida that should be considered the same as illegal immigration?
As for your other examples what are the numbers like? How many Korean or Chinese are illegally in Japan? I doubt the numbers are any where near what they are in the US and Europe.
Iangould
04-06-2006, 08:35 AM
Um how are Chinese citizens moving about within their own borders the same as illegal immigration? So when New Yorkers retire to Florida that should be considered the same as illegal immigration?
As for your other examples what are the numbers like? How many Korean or Chinese are illegally in Japan? I doubt the numbers are any where near what they are in the US and Europe.
There are estimated to be 2-3 million illegal immigrants in Japan. In a population slightly over 1/3 the size of America's.
In the case of China, you have millions of people moving illegally to places where they have no legal right of residence; no entitlement to welfare or health benefits and very little legal protection from exploitation and in many cases they don't speak the local language - still think it's comparable to New Yorkers moving to Florida?
estee
04-06-2006, 08:54 AM
Canada will still be wringing its hands over Quebec Separatism... :(
cactusmaac
04-06-2006, 08:57 AM
There are estimated to be 2-3 million illegal immigrants in Japan. In a population slightly over 1/3 the size of America's.
Where did you get that estimate from?
This article quotes a figure of 1.5 million registered foreign residents.
http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/display.article?id=7067
China will have the combined problem of an aging population and millions of excess males.
Europe will be in for a tough time thanks to a combination of uncompetitive economies (France), rapidly decreasing populations (Italy and Sweden) and poor, unassimilated immigrants.
India will have the problem of rapid and growing wealth inequality in a society whiich still maintains a deeply entrenched caste system.
The US will continue to go from strength to strength.
Iangould
04-06-2006, 09:10 AM
Where did you get that estimate from?
This article quotes a figure of 1.5 million registered foreign residents.
http://yaleglobal.yale.edu/display.article?id=7067
Key-word being "registered". There are also estimated to be around one million illegal immigrants from China and substantial numbers from Korea and the Phillipines.
Edited to add: in my initial post I said 2-3 million *illegal* immigrants, it's more like that number for all foreign residents, legal and illegal.
In case people are wondering, most illegal immigrants to Japan come on student or work visas then abscond when their visa expires.
cactusmaac
04-06-2006, 09:12 AM
I'd like a source for that.
and
"One million illegal immigrants from China and substantial numbers from Korea and the Phillipines" != "2-3 million illegal immigrants in Japan"
Iangould
04-06-2006, 09:24 AM
1. It's 1.30 AM here.
2. See the correction above.
3. A quick google search turns up an estimate of "800,000 unskilled immigrant workers" as of 2004, which would represent a subset of total illegal immigration.
http://www.debito.org/japanvisapunishments.html
cactusmaac
04-06-2006, 09:38 AM
Huh?
How many skilled workers are illlegal immigrants?
Iangould
04-06-2006, 10:50 PM
Huh?
How many skilled workers are illlegal immigrants?
One of the largest categories of illegal immigrants in Japan are people who came in on English teaching visas and overstayed.
Talk to just about anybody who ever taught English in Japan.
Additionally, the labor shortage caused by Japan's population ageing isn't limited to unskilled manual laborers.
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