There MIGHT be a blade 4

[blackdragon6]

"Despite rumours to the contrary, seems every Dentist’s worst nightmare might indeed return to cinemas, according to SneakPeek.CA.

Though “Blade Trinity” wasn’t exactly a beacon for the studio, Marvel, speaking at the New York Comic Con, said a fourth film is still very much a possibility.

"The third movie did very well for us, and there's room for more”, they said, neglecting to mention whether Wesley Snipes, who infamously butted heads with both the studio, the director and his co-stars on the most recent sequel, would return in the title role.
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source: www.moviehole.net

[Legato]

No Wesley Snipes then count me out for Blade 4.

[StoneGold]

Every dentist's worst nightmare? What the hell does that mean?

[CaptainAwesome]

Every dentist's worst nightmare? What the hell does that mean?
The fangs, dude. The fangs.

[Scorpion13]

Can writers for news columsn like that make jokes any lamer? Sweet Jesus. Theyve been making that "out of this world" joke for the past 40 years.

And if Wesley aint in it, Im not bothering. IN fact, if its anything like Blade 3, Im not bothering. If they want to do it right, they should fire the writers who wrote Blade 3.....out of a cannon.

[atorifan]

no way it can be blade without freaking blade. his movement, voice, mannerisms all make blade come to life. hopefully if not the writer's, at least the people who did the script for the first 2 will do the fourth, maybe that will help. i don't know if it can. but i kinda lost some interest in the blade 2 deal. although! the vampire virus guys with the splitting face was a novel idea. but i'm just tired of 'ancient vampires' that don't do jack. except bathe in blood or drink it. but they are the masters and kowtowed to, but can barely move. if a 4th is a possibility, why not a master from christ's time or somethin, gets reanimated. it's all hollywood schlock, but i would hope for something good, then put a stake in the blade series.

[Nate Grey]

Precisely why the series will fail, too. Seriously, I think they can convince Wesley to do a Blade 4 if one of the conditions is that Goyer is in no way involved or even allowed on the set.

[blackdragon6]

Precisely why the series will fail, too. Seriously, I think they can convince Wesley to do a Blade 4 if one of the conditions is that Goyer is in no way involved or even allowed on the set.co-sign....

[blackdragon6]

Can writers for news columsn like that make jokes any lamer? Sweet Jesus. Theyve been making that "out of this world" joke for the past 40 years.

And if Wesley aint in it, Im not bothering. IN fact, if its anything like Blade 3, Im not bothering. If they want to do it right, they should fire the writers who wrote Blade 3.....out of a cannon.
my thoughts exactly lol

[Ontir]

Seems odd to do this with the Blade tV series getting ready to launch!

[Tish-the-Scorpion]

Seems odd to do this with the Blade tV series getting ready to launch!
hell thats all the more reason TO do it lol

[atorifan]

it might be pretty damn cool, if they make the finale the movie. i don't know when or that a series even was coming out. but i say about time a vamp series comes to tv again. and if the series kicks ass it will totally guide the people into the movie. that would be more better than a movie that follows or comes in the middle, with no continuity to the series. although since i want wesley. this probably ain't gonna happen. unless they decide to use the series star as the movie role. and almost relaunch the thrust of the blade movies series.

[Magneto_X]

From what I heard the tv show doesn't look that good. It has a rapper :eek: as Blade! The pilot doesn't even focus on him--instead it's about this former police officer babe looking for her brother.

I'd be surprised if it survived to its first season finale.

If Blade 4 goes ahead they need to get rid of Goyer ASAP. There are good plenty of screenwriters in Hollywood to replace him with. (Just keep Akiva Goldsmith away from it.)

And bring Wes back.

Forget Trinity ever happened.

[blackdragon6]

i hope to god they get a good director.

[Captain Trips]

Wow. Am I the only person who liked Blade Trinity? I'll admit it was the weakest of the three, but I thought it was an entertaining movie. I wouldn't be interested in seeing a fourth movie if Snipes isn't back as Blade. He's great in the role.

For those that don't want Goyer to have anything to do with anything Blade related in the future, then stay away from the TV series. He and Geoff Johns are handling writing chores for at least the pilot. I think Goyer is involved with the entire series, but I am not sure in what capacity.

[Scorpion13]

Trinity had the phrase cock-juggling thunder cunt in it. Its easily the worst of all the new crop of Marvel movies, only outstripped by Catwoman overall.

Whoever wrote that dialogue needs to be gassed. Its awful.

[Magneto_X]

Most of Reynolds' dialogue was ad-lib. Can't blame Goyer for that. But Goyer *did* hire him and write the rest of it.

[Scorpion13]

..........what kind of director just lets the actors make up the script in a movie like this?

And what actor comes up with such lame lines like that?

And finally, where did you read this?

[Magneto_X]

..........what kind of director just lets the actors make up the script in a movie like this?

And what actor comes up with such lame lines like that?

And finally, where did you read this?

It's on the DVD commentary. That's the only good thing to come from Trinity. The commentary between Goyer, Biel and Reynolds is quite entertaining. They explain everything.

[sgt.candy]

why bother? the last 2 were horrible

HHH the vampire...LAFF

[KenK]

Hey now! Blade II was kick-ass!! Del Toro actually took the time to WATCH the first film, and maintain some continuity, unlike Goyer, whose whole approach to Trinity was, "How much stunt casting can I get away with?!" Goyer's writing only seems to work as long as he's got a good director making it work. Blade Trinity needed someone like Ronny Yu, or Antoine Fuqua. That woulda been hot!

[Nate Grey]

lol Dis Blade 2 and KenK will appear. :D I love Blade 2 myself, and would love to see Del Toro return for another Blade movie or two.

[Phil Clark]

As soon as I heard that Snipes refused to come out of his trailer for a scene unless he was going to be nearly full frame on his face, then I lost all respect for the man. If you cannot be a professional, then you don't deserve to be in the business. I say give the series a chance, and once the new actor playing Blade get's into the groove with the series, use him for the movie. Screw that uncooperative over-inflated SOB. Show him he ain't blade, and behavior like that when you are hired to do a job will only get you fired.

[Nate Grey]

As soon as I heard that Snipes refused to come out of his trailer for a scene unless he was going to be nearly full frame on his face, then I lost all respect for the man. If you cannot be a professional, then you don't deserve to be in the business. I say give the series a chance, and once the new actor playing Blade get's into the groove with the series, use him for the movie. Screw that uncooperative over-inflated SOB. Show him he ain't blade, and behavior like that when you are hired to do a job will only get you fired.

Likewise, I lost all respect for Goyer when he made the strides to put Wes in that position in the first place, namely vetoing every idea he came up with simply because he suddenly had more power (the director) and putting these two new actors in the for front when its really a Blade movie. Chicken and the egg, Phil: Wes may have acted like a diva but he was provoked by Goyer and I won't let neither off the hook for that. I love how everyone thinks Goyer is somehow blameless in this and ALL the blame lies on Wes. Well, perhaps Goyer will learn the hard way with this series what happens when you let power go to your head and you sabatoge a friendship. Like Trinity, he has free reign and he alread appears to be making the same mistakes (putting Blade in the background).

[Scorpion13]

I wouldnt have minded putting Blade in the backround as much if they had had some characters who were the least bit interesting in the fore.

And I will never forgive them for doing to Marvel Dracula what they did.

[Leslie Lee III]

Trinity had the phrase cock-juggling thunder cunt in it. Its easily the worst of all the new crop of Marvel movies, only outstripped by Catwoman overall.

Whoever wrote that dialogue needs to be gassed. Its awful.

That was easily one of the best parts of the movie, but overrall it wasn't good. The original premise Goyer had for the movie was great (set in the future after the vampires have already won and taken over society). Somewhere along the way someone lost the plot and we ended up with a very unabitious, small movie.

And I have no doubts that if Wesley had his way, Trinity would have been much better. Let him be a Diva as long as it gets me better Blade movies.

[Nate Grey]

I wouldnt have minded putting Blade in the backround as much if they had had some characters who were the least bit interesting in the fore.

You got a point there.

And I will never forgive them for doing to Marvel Dracula what they did.

I don't understand WHY they did that. He looked more like the last Reaver experiment than the true king of all vampires. And also looked like he was going to say, at any given moment, "Let's hurry this up, I got a fashion shoot in Milan."

Nothing against the actor, I've been a fan of Dominic Purcell since his John Doe and Beastmaster days. But Goyer played him all wrong, just for the sake of being "hip" or "kewl" or whatever. I don't know what what going through his head and I'm not sure I want to.

[Scorpion13]

I still cant fathom how they messed up a movie where they get the whole "Tomb" cast together and go out to fight Dracula. I mean, it writes itself.

I could probably come up with something much better than what was on screen.

[Captain Trips]

That was easily one of the best parts of the movie, but overrall it wasn't good. The original premise Goyer had for the movie was great (set in the future after the vampires have already won and taken over society). Somewhere along the way someone lost the plot and we ended up with a very unabitious, small movie.

And I have no doubts that if Wesley had his way, Trinity would have been much better. Let him be a Diva as long as it gets me better Blade movies.

I remember hearing about that original concept, and I thought it sounded really cool. I would have liked to have seen what could have been done from that premise.

I'm not sure what ideas Snipes had that were shot down, but he had a good feel for the character, so one would think that he may have had some good ideas.

[kalorama]

..........what kind of director just lets the actors make up the script in a movie like this?

It's fairly common for actors and directors to alter and ad-lib dialogue during filming. The script, especially on action movies, is often just a jumping off point. A lot of stuff is altered during the course of filming.

[KenK]

I remember hearing about that original concept, and I thought it sounded really cool. I would have liked to have seen what could have been done from that premise.

Well, I personally liked the premise of Blade Trinity, as it would make sense for there to be a focus on the authorities tracking Blade. Eventually, the FBI would look into these strange occurences, and if all the humans Blade ever killed were familiars, they'd have to dig into why they all have those strange tattoos. And what of the guy Blade saved in the opening of the first film? You don't think he told anyone about this guy killing people and them disintegrating? The media and the press going after Blade could have been great if executed correctly. Make it Drake's idea and establish him assuming leadership of whatever's left of the vampire nation. Establish him as the powerful king of vampires he's supposed to be.

I'm not sure what ideas Snipes had that were shot down, but he had a good feel for the character, so one would think that he may have had some good ideas.

I'm sure he probably did, but we'll never know. I know this much, Wes' influence on the first two films was very much apparent, right down to him being credited as a fight coordinator on the film. The stunt team and lead fight coordinator, Jeff Ward, were people Wes had worked with essentially his entire career. Not to mention the involvement of his production company from day one. Yeah, he's got a pretty big ego, but in terms of this character, he didn't let me down until Goyer started calling the shots. Like I've said, Goyer couldn't even see fit to mine his own continuity. He wrote all three movies, but seemed to forget the first two when making some of the decisions he made for Trinity:

*The vampires never looked like vampires ALL THE TIME!! They're supposed to be blending in!! Look at the members of the House of Erebus in the first film! The leader, Dragonetti even says it, "Our livelihood depends on our ability to blend in." How blended in can you be when you always look pale, you have yellow eyes, and your fangs are clearly visible when you TRY to talk!!

*The Nightstalkers.
Hannibal King: If he were in Blade 2, Blade would have bitch slapped him after the second smartass remark. In fact, the original screenplay has him calling Blade Blackula, and Blade punching him out.

Abigail: Whistler's daughter? I'd never guess unless you called her "Whistler"! Watching Thank You For Smoking this weekend, I'm reminded of Rob Lowe's movie exec character trying to justify having characters smoke in outer space. One line of dialogue that doesn't really explain anything. "I was born later out of wedlock." WHAT?!?!? And then, how do you even know how to find him? Who was your mother? Don't even get me started on Goyer's piss-poor storytelling and shameless use of footage and dialogue from the first film that doesn't even apply to Abigail!

Somerfield: OOOH!! She's BLIND!! Isn't that cool and superfluous! A prime example of Goyer completely ignoring the foundation he laid down with the first film. Even if you couldn't get back N'Bushe Wright, if you needed someone experienced in genetics and the science of blood, what about Karen Jensen?!? You've got Hannibal King as a vampire who was cured. Why not have the character that cured herself in the first film!!!

Which brings me to my next point

*Blade doesn't seem to know diddly anymore. He can't tell a human from a vampire, and even asks why a vampire he staked hasn't turned to ash. He's clearly not a vampire(or a reaper), you moron!! Whistler gives him a new serum inhaler, confused as to where he got it from. Uh, didn't Blade get ingredients for the serum from someone OTHER THAN Whistler in the first film? Didn't Whistler say that there were others besides him and Blade hunting vampires? Why is the existence of the Nightstalkers such a shock to him?

*Do not use the Blade franchise as an excuse to see how many Christopher Guest regulars you can get into an action movie!! I didn't mind the casting of Biel and Reynolds, especially after seeing the work they put in physically. But dammit, Goyer didn't see fit to execute their characters properly.

[Phil Clark]

This is the first I heard about Goyer's power trips. But even so, he is the frakin' director. It is his job to guide the film, right or wrong. And Wesley's job was to be on the set and act. But because his ideas were ignored, he chose to pout like a hurt little school girl instead of giving the movie his all and then saying "See, I told you so" afterward.

Goyer was doing his job, Snipes was being an uncooperative jerk. Goyer may have blown the film, but Snipes may have hurt his career acting the way he did, or rather not acting when he was supposed to.

[Scorpion13]

Well I say more power to Wesley.

[DDM]

Marvel would be better off with the vampire cow, Hellcow from Howard the Duck than another Blade film.

[Phil Clark]

Well I say more power to Wesley.

I agree. Just in the context of his role in the production of Trinity, he was far more out of line professionally than Goyer. Even though Goyers opening up to his ideas may have made it a better film.

[blackdragon6]

This is the first I heard about Goyer's power trips. But even so, he is the frakin' director. It is his job to guide the film, right or wrong. And Wesley's job was to be on the set and act. But because his ideas were ignored, he chose to pout like a hurt little school girl instead of giving the movie his all and then saying "See, I told you so" afterward.

Goyer was doing his job, Snipes was being an uncooperative jerk. Goyer may have blown the film, but Snipes may have hurt his career acting the way he did, or rather not acting when he was supposed to.i would have done the same thing,terrance howard does it too wich is what took him so long to become popular within the industry.but they do this because of a reason they don't wanna just do anything.wes knew the film was a turkey,and there was nothing he could do about it because his input was left out.i would be uncooperative too.especialy how much he did for the first 2 films.

[Captain Trips]

i would have done the same thing,terrance howard does it too wich is what took him so long to become popular within the industry.but they do this because of a reason they don't wanna just do anything.wes knew the film was a turkey,and there was nothing he could do about it because his input was left out.i would be uncooperative too.especialy how much he did for the first 2 films.

Yeah, I am sure there is much more to Wesley's actions than he was just being uncooperative. I think I recall reading that he was being forced into doing the film and really didn't want anything to do with it. I guess if you sign a contract you are obligated to fulfill it. Which is what Wesley did. But you don't have to like it. And he did the exact minimum that was required to do the job.

[kalorama]

The bottom line is, no one on the outside really knows what happened on the set and who, if anyone, was the bad guy. Those kinds of conflicts are commonplace on movie sets. It's really not that big a deal and probably had little to do with the quality of the final product. A harmonious set can produce a crap movie and a strife-torn set can produce a great one. There aren't any easily digestable cause and effect elements in suchg a situation.

[handOFfate]

I don't see another Blade film doing well unless a few things drastically change. First, Snipes needs to get back the swagger he had in Blade and Blade 2. In Trinity, he looked and sounded bored all the time. Second, Goyer needs to go. Trinity was bad, and I think he's run out of ideas for the Blade franchise. Let him stick to Batman. Third, absolutely NO returning cast members. Whistler's death scene was one of the few decent parts in the third film, and Hannibal King is irritating.

[JuggernautRM]

Another reason for the suckage that was Trinity, the casting for the villians. Triple H? Parker Posey? Who the hell casted those people. Movie would have been better off if Drake had killed them off in the beginning tomb scene and came out and controlled the vampire nation into an all out war.