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pennywisdom
03-27-2006, 01:56 PM
I just heard the new Tool album and it's terrible! What a disappointment! The switch to three minute pop songs doesn't bother me as much as the guest appearance by Jessica Simpson.























Just kidding. Seriously, it's coming out in May and I'm pumped.

Track listing:

Vicarious
Jambi
Wings For Marie (Pt 1)
10,000 Days (Wings Pt 2)
The Pot
Lipan Conjuring
Lost Keys (Blame Hofmann)
Rosetta Stoned
Intension
Right In Two
Viginti Tres

Is anyone else excited? Got any info? Discuss.

zombie
03-27-2006, 02:08 PM
Cover art:

http://www.toolband.com/news/images/xmdays_mini_art.jpg

pennywisdom
03-27-2006, 02:09 PM
Keep in mind this is Tool, so half-expect all press releases leading up to the album to be fakes.

Deathstroke
03-27-2006, 02:12 PM
You can check out my Hard Rock/Heavy Metal Updates from the last two weeks for basically the same information that's been listed here.

....but earlier than you guys. :D

Lubichev
03-27-2006, 02:18 PM
You had me till the end of that sentence.


........and you had me at "Hello."

pennywisdom
03-28-2006, 01:44 AM
You can check out my Hard Rock/Heavy Metal Updates from the last two weeks for basically the same information that's been listed here.

....but earlier than you guys. :D
Alright, you beat us to it. I just thought it deserved its own thread.

I love that cover art.

zombie
03-28-2006, 02:35 AM
You can check out my Hard Rock/Heavy Metal Updates from the last two weeks for basically the same information that's been listed here.

....but earlier than you guys. :D

*gives Deathstroke a cookie*

Deathstroke
03-28-2006, 05:14 AM
*gives Deathstroke a cookie*


MMMMM....chocolate chip cookies...

Voncaster
03-29-2006, 12:11 AM
Is the cover art another entry from Alex Grey?

May 2nd will be big for me at least...new Pearl Jam and Tool...on the same day! I'm definitly looking forward to the new Tool album. Laturalus is my favorite entry in the Tool catalogue, I'm hoping 10,000 Days will be even better.

pennywisdom
03-29-2006, 01:29 AM
I agree that Lateralus is their best album so far, but they've all been good in their way. If I had to rank them, I would say that each album progressively gets better... which is saying a lot, because Aenima is one of the greatest albums of the modern era.

Krys Nyteshade
03-29-2006, 09:56 AM
I have Aenemia, which I think is really hit or miss. I'll probably check this out, but I have to admit all the drug references are a bit of a turn off.

Headhunter
03-29-2006, 06:25 PM
I'm pretty pumped, though I'll confess that A Perfect Circle (especially the brilliant Mer de Noms) rates a lot higher with me.

Bit OT, but what's with Parabola/Schism? Are these worth picking up?

pennywisdom
03-30-2006, 04:45 AM
Bit OT, but what's with Parabola/Schism? Are these worth picking up?
"Parabola" and "Schism" were songs on the full-length album Lateralus.

Tool originally released an EP entitled Opiate, followed by their first full-length album Undertow.

In 1996, they released Aenima, which was considered their best album, defining work, and breakthrough record. They went through a period of five years with no new album... only a collection of live tracks and B-sides known as Salival. Also included was a collection of every Tool video up to that point.

In 2001, they released Lateralus, arguably their best effort to date. Touring, singles, videos, etc. I saw them in 2002... best show I've ever been to. They've been lying pretty low since then, with Maynard doing his APC thing.

Now, in May 2006, the new album comes out.

There's the discography in a nutshell. If you have questions about a particular song or album, ask.

Leslie Lee III
03-30-2006, 11:06 AM
"Parabola" and "Schism" were songs on the full-length album Lateralus.

Tool has also released these songs as singles recent. The cover info is very sparse. I believe they're just the video, the song, and a remix.

Chiasm
03-30-2006, 11:45 AM
I'll be buying it. It'll be the first album I've bought at a CD store in nearly a year. I get all my music now for the most part by downloading.

Headhunter
04-04-2006, 06:11 PM
There's the discography in a nutshell. If you have questions about a particular song or album, ask.
Thanks. It's been a real bitch trying to buy Salival off eBay at a decent price.

Actually, I was actually thinking of:

Tool has also released these songs as singles recent. The cover info is very sparse. I believe they're just the video, the song, and a remix.
Saw them at a downtown record store, was wondering why 2 songs were going for over $10 Canadian apiece. Single + video + remix is pretty lame...

Hiromi
04-18-2006, 12:22 AM
New Track from the album here (http://www.distortiononline.com/Tool_Vicar_Full.mp3)

If the whole album sounds like this... just God damn, cannot wait.

Jake V
04-18-2006, 04:56 PM
If anyone's interested, the entire album just leaked.

I assume by now, people know where and how to get it.

Alex
04-19-2006, 03:08 PM
I'm pretty pumped, though I'll confess that A Perfect Circle (especially the brilliant Mer de Noms) rates a lot higher with me.

I agree depending on how i feel at any given moment.
If i want something that is a bit more straightforward, ill usualy listen to Perfect circle.
If i want something a little more thoughtfull...well...actually, i'd listen to Can...
I've lost all focus on where i was going with that.

Gargus
04-19-2006, 05:14 PM
I agree that Lateralus is their best album so far, but they've all been good in their way. If I had to rank them, I would say that each album progressively gets better... which is saying a lot, because Aenima is one of the greatest albums of the modern era.

I dont know that they got better as they went, except opiate they did improve over that one. But Lateralus, undertow, aenima are equally good in their own respect. Tool is truly unique that each album is always tool at its heart but each is different from the others but still manage to keep all the underlying melodies and such.

I couldnt say which I liked best since I like them all.

They do get the title of being the only band that even the songs they did that I like the least I still like to hear, can listen to any cd by them from start to finish and love all of it. Anymore its hard to find a band that puts out a album with more than the one good song you had already gotten sick of on the radio.

I first got hooked on tool not because of the music but because of maynard because he reminded of like a modern day roger waters in that he had this utterly perfect singing voice for his band that was really strong and a bit sad. The odd thing is everytime I get a tool cd I start out thinking its just ok but the more I listen the more I love it and after awhile I know each part of it by heart.

Headhunter
04-20-2006, 06:53 PM
I agree depending on how i feel at any given moment.
If i want something that is a bit more straightforward, ill usualy listen to Perfect circle.
If i want something a little more thoughtfull...well...actually, i'd listen to Can...
The thing that gets me with Mer de Noms is its meld of "beauty with the beast". It's unfortunate that hard music is often accused of selling out if even a single note strays from a thrashing or vicious sound, especially when it's that blend that I love.

I got a thing for Paz Lenchantin too, shh...

http://www.aperfectcircle.it/pictures/Paz/new-paz/Paz_Lenchantin_24.jpg

I've lost all focus on where i was going with that.
Heh. :)

Voncaster
04-21-2006, 11:26 PM
The odd thing is everytime I get a tool cd I start out thinking its just ok but the more I listen the more I love it and after awhile I know each part of it by heart.

I feel the same way with a lot of bands I like. You expect so much from their music that if its not amazing on the first listen you feel let down. It takes a while to appreciate the music on its own merits.

I thought Vicarious was horrible, it seemed like a charicature of a TOOL song. But I'm sure the record will grow on me with repeated spins.

Chiasm
04-22-2006, 11:26 AM
Thank god for the link someone gave above (when it works) and Youtube for when it doesn't - I'm trying to resist illegally downloading it. I think I've listened to Vicarious now about a hundred times and am still not tired of it. Its not as good as Schism or a few other Tool classics but I'd easily call it one of my top 5 favorite all time Tool songs.

Punisher
04-29-2006, 06:00 PM
On www.Amazon.com there are import versions of their albums coming out May 16. Does anyone know what if anything will be different about these versions than those all ready available and the version of 10,000 Days coming out this Tuesday?:confused:

nonhosonno
04-30-2006, 02:55 AM
I got a thing for Paz Lenchantin too, shh...

Paz is hot, bro. What on earth is she doing nowadays? Is she still in Papa M with that Pajo guy?

juggalotus
05-01-2006, 04:06 PM
im grabbing that album tommorrow.
Ive heard some advance stuff and im allittle scared that over half the
album is gonna be that boring filler noise that your just gonna skip right over.
Right in Two sounds ultimate kick ass though
as does jambi.
the pot lost chord wings for marie 1&2 are nooise duds.
I just hope that half of it kix
Rosetta stoned is heavy but it sounds like the same licks from lateralus
me and my girl both said this sounds like parabola.
anyways i love em and ive got my fingers crossed

juggalotus
05-01-2006, 04:07 PM
oh yeah vignits tres
sucked too

nonhosonno
05-01-2006, 10:09 PM
I just took the shrinkwrap off 10,000 Days and I'm gonna pop this baby in. The packaging is killer; I don't see how they can top this, the whole deal with the book/lenses format unless they go to a full-blown album with "pop-ups" that you can move with little handles — remember those?

juggalotus
05-03-2006, 07:05 AM
Scratch what i said earlier this album stomps ass.
What i feared (noise filler) is not actual filler really, i was downloading tracks to sample before i bought the album and heard a few songs that were very slow to start off....i got impatient and deleted them. But the wings part 1 and 2 are just slow to start....but in many ways that is trademark tool as they eventually take on more life as the track evolves. The vigintes tres is
a sort of end of the album noise filler but that is not new with tool.
IMO 65 out of 75 minutes is pure tool awesomeness, i played this puppy for the first time yesterday as i read darkhorse conan 18-22 and it was pure enjoyment, it was playing a little low in the background but the tribal feel of it was coming through loud and clear, cant wait to bump it loud today.
Also if you ever need to start a fire and have no matches and the sun happens to be out....dont forget your 10000 days, i used the magnifying glasses to burn a hole through the shrink wrap of my newly acquire pearl jam album....havent listened to that yet as tool always gets first dibs

Voncaster
05-04-2006, 12:13 AM
ComicbookGuy: Best packaging best ever.

Chiasm
05-07-2006, 04:24 AM
First listen I was a bit underwhelmed.

But its starting to grow on me. I doubt I'll end up liking it as well as Lateralus but its pretty good. And pretty good by Tool means its freaking awesome compared to most music.

Patient Boy
05-07-2006, 12:08 PM
The odd thing is everytime I get a tool cd I start out thinking its just ok but the more I listen the more I love it and after awhile I know each part of it by heart.

Just got 10,000 Days.
I'm exactly the same way, and I got into Tool because of Maynard too.

Nikita
05-07-2006, 12:23 PM
eh, I don't know, I've been kind of disappointed with the last couple of Tool albums. Gotten kind of bored with them. I saw the new CD, picked it up, and then put it back on the rack.

Schmakt
05-08-2006, 11:32 AM
I've listened to this about 5 times now... the result is always the same... ehhhhh.

the new Pearl Jam is a million times more listenable (except for "Come Back," which sucks)

Wish I would have saved the $17 and bought it used off ebay or amazon in a couple of days... very blah.

nonhosonno
05-10-2006, 12:35 AM
It's definitely not better than Lateralus!

E. Spears
05-10-2006, 12:10 PM
I've been listening to the new album since a few days before I saw Tool at Coachella, and I've loved it every time I listen to it. The tracks Jambi, 10,000 days, Rosetta Stoned, and Right in Two are real standouts. I like them all, even Vigniti Tres. It sounds good, even if it's not a song.

Way good for listening to.

Forefinger
05-10-2006, 01:06 PM
First listen I was a bit underwhelmed.

But its starting to grow on me. I doubt I'll end up liking it as well as Lateralus but its pretty good. And pretty good by Tool means its freaking awesome compared to most music.
It was almost worth the $10 I paid for it, just for the artwork.

I like Vicarious, which has been getting a lot of airplay on my local rock station, but I haven't really liked the rest of it. I've been listening quite a bit hoping that it would grow on me, but so far it hasn't.

I guess I"m in the minority here; I didn't like Laterallus. I loved Undertow and Anemia though.

CaptMagellan
05-10-2006, 01:17 PM
I finally was able to pick this up and I love it. But I can understand that those who didn't like Lateralus aren't going to like this one either. And for those who think "Undertow" is their best album - I doubt there will ever be another Tool CD that meets those tastes (which for me is fine as it's my least favorite Tool album).

With each album they get more intricate, complex, and 'non-commercial.'


The odd thing is everytime I get a tool cd I start out thinking its just ok but the more I listen the more I love it and after awhile I know each part of it by heart.
That's a great way of describing the experience of a new Tool CD (at least for a few of us it seems).

And the 'jewel case' (I'm not sure what you would call it other than 3-d multimedia experience) was definitely worth the price of admission.

Schmakt
05-11-2006, 09:31 AM
I guess I"m in the minority here; I didn't like Laterallus. I loved Undertow and Anemia though.

no, I'm with you. Aenima is definitely my favorite...
I've tried listening to this one a few times now, and I'm still just not getting it. definitely wish I'd waited to find it used...

Ill Communication
05-12-2006, 12:44 PM
I actually thought the album was phenominal, and enjoyed it moreso than my other big purchase that week, which was the new PJ cd.

Tool is alot like Built to Spill ... there's alot of drama in their music.

DonC
05-13-2006, 04:37 PM
Anyone have any links to clips or songs I can download? I've never listened to Tool but this dude I know was saying how good they are. I figured I'd try 'em out for free, if I could.

Punisher
05-20-2006, 08:15 PM
In my opinon this is the worst Tool cd. Don't get me wrong it kicks ass just not as much as their other cds did.

CaptMagellan
05-30-2006, 10:16 AM
Last week I went to toolshed.com to check out the printed lyrics (or the best guesses of the toolshedders at least) and was intrigued by the lyrics to Wings For Marie and 10,000 Days.

Then found this at Wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10%2C000_Days

""Marie" is the middle name of Keenan's deceased mother, Judith Marie Garrison.
As Keenan explains in his commentary on aMOTION, Judith suffered a stroke that left her partially paralyzed and wheelchair-bound. The length of time between the paralysis and her death was 27 years, or approximately 10,000 days."

Which references this obit announcement...
http://www.memorialobituaries.com/memorials/memorials.cgi?action=Obit&memid=101490&clientid=toland

What an incredible pair of songs. These are powerful statements of love, anger, sadness, with a strong subcurrent of psychopomp intent.

Read the lyrics, read the backstory. Then put on some headphones, close your eyes, and blast these songs.

As a parent, I am touched by the love expressed. As a son who has lost both parents (one to an brain aneurysm) I am thankful for the band's artful expression of pain and loss - the personal and universal.

Voncaster
06-02-2006, 05:39 PM
I was underwelmed at first, but I gave this disc another spin last night. I think 10,000 Days is one of the most beautiful songs I have heard. Its superb.

However the Lipin Conjuring (the wierd tribal song) and the constant pot references bring the album down IMO.

CaptMagellan
06-02-2006, 08:25 PM
I was underwelmed at first, but I gave this disc another spin last night. I think 10,000 Days is one of the most beautiful songs I have heard. Its superb.

Yup. That's my feeling as well. The way it builds is very strong and emotionally powerful.

However the Lipin Conjuring (the wierd tribal song) and the constant pot references bring the album down IMO.

The 'pot' references (at least on the song "The Pot") are more about 'the pot calling the kettle black' style hypocrisy:

"When you pissed all over my black kettle
You must have been high!

Who are you to wave your finger?
So full of it
Eyeballs deep in muddy waters
Fuckin' hypocrite"

EDITED to clarify my less than stellar syntax...Check out the full lyrics at the toolshed site (http://toolshed.down.net/lyrics/) It's more about hypocrisy than anything regarding marijuana (which is used as a negative metaphor for the hypocrite's actions in the song).

But, other than that song, I really don't see the 'constant' pot references ("Rosetta Stoned" might have an LSD subtext to it due to 'Blame Hoffman' leading into it - Albert Hoffman discovered/invented LSD) but it's more about the questionable objective validity of hallucinatory phenomena and putting too much importance on mystical experiences than any drug/anti-drug meaning).

But, by focusing on the 'deeper' aspects of their content, maybe I'm missing the drug refs.

Voncaster
06-02-2006, 10:17 PM
I've paid enough attention to Tool to know that they they love jokes and poking fun at their fans (see Hooker with a Penis). And thanks for the lyrics link...not very many pot references when you comb through them.

I just think after 10,000 Days (the song) that putting on lighthearted or joke songs seem out of place. This worked on Aenima for me, but for some reason I find the joke songs out of place on 10,000 Days. 10,000 days certainly shines in places though.

CaptMagellan
06-03-2006, 11:06 AM
I've paid enough attention to Tool to know that they they love jokes and poking fun at their fans (see Hooker with a Penis). And thanks for the lyrics link...not very many pot references when you comb through them.

I just think after 10,000 Days (the song) that putting on lighthearted or joke songs seem out of place. This worked on Aenima for me, but for some reason I find the joke songs out of place on 10,000 Days. 10,000 days certainly shines in places though.

I can understand that. "Rosetta Stoned" is a bit... over the top and silly at points: "But I forgot my pen!"