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Grizsly
03-23-2006, 08:38 PM
So I got a look at next week's Sentry in Marvel's first looks envelope yesterday, and I perused it. . .

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I didn't have to read it to know he's going to spend time talking to a shrink, but guess what? He does, at length, discussing how his psychosis is still battling with the inner turmoil of (big suprise here!) THE VOID. . .

Then he spends some time in the park chatting with Sue Richards, discussing Reed's failed treatment attempts and his worry for the future because of (yep, here it comes again) The Void.

He finally ends up losing it (again) when he's confronted with an anti-matter version of his fortress deep under ground, and the issue ends with a caption telling how The Sentry will have to face the fury of (yup, ONCE MORE, ALL TOGETHER!!!) THE VOID!!!!

So apparantley next issue is the final showdown.

Until the next time he has a headache.

You go, Jenkins!!! :p

Sentinel K
03-24-2006, 05:33 AM
You are so cool.

I think you are the coolest person on this board.

Can we be friends?




(By the way I was being sarcastic, I thought that might need to be spelled out to you)

Grizsly
03-24-2006, 08:43 AM
Elsa Bloodstone - Drive on the PROPER side of the road, Colonial scum!

It's interesting how we both dig the Elsa, yet you try (miserably) to poke fun at my dislike of the Sentry. . .ah well, different strokes, mate.

Either way, my review of the Sentry was accurate, although I make no qualms about folks disagreeing with my opinion of it.

And you have the sarcastic ability of a Mort, you know.

Just sayin'.

unkiedev
03-24-2006, 08:49 AM
I stopped reading this after issue 3 when it was clear he was just going to talk to his shrink for long stretches of time.

"After drinking a super serum, young Robert Reynolds finds he has the power of a thousand nuclear suns! Armed with godlike powers, Rob spends most of his time being a mental nutjob and talking to his shrink... a lot! No other hero is as whiny, as pathetic and as continuity challenging! Who knows, he's so powerful the eniter Marvel Universe could be all in his head...

STAN LEE PRESENTS: The Sentry, the Titan of Therapy!"

Keith_Martineau
03-24-2006, 09:15 AM
Thats a shame, since that is NOT what happened in the issues that came later.

unkiedev
03-24-2006, 10:04 AM
Nah. I'm not missing anything. I bought the Sentry trade they did a while back: It was good, and interesting, ulimately redundant and at the end un-fulfilling. Maybe that's just me.

It could be an opinion thing. I found the concept of a Hero who is so overwhelmingly powerfull that people only suffer because he lets them too...complex? It's a Vertigo book shoe-horned into the Marel Universe. No wonder the guy is a nut ball. It just isn't a very Marvel book, and I'm a marvel junkie.

-Comics have changed. It's all about the trades now. I could get the issues, but I'm not interested. If something amazing happens, or if I hear any really good things about the series when it's wrapped MAYBE I'll get the trade.

Tony Starkz
03-24-2006, 10:11 AM
Nothing wrong with complex heroes.Especially in the MU where there isn't a whole lot of them.

Grizsly
03-24-2006, 10:12 AM
I'm with ya unkiedev - maybe I'll get the trade. . .if there's a global shortage of toilet paper.

(ZING!)

Shellhead
03-24-2006, 10:19 AM
Nothing wrong with complex heroes.Especially in the MU where there isn't a whole lot of them.

I wish this complex hero wasn't handcuffed to the Void all the time. It's getting stale.

Sentinel K
03-24-2006, 10:25 AM
I wish this complex hero wasn't handcuffed to the Void all the time. It's getting stale.

But The void is what this mini is dealing with. If it was an ongoing I'd be right with you on it, but once the mini is over I'm sure the void will take a backseat.

Danger Dude
03-24-2006, 10:40 AM
Maybe that's just me.

Yeah, it's just you.

Grizsly
03-24-2006, 10:41 AM
But The void is what this mini is dealing with. If it was an ongoing I'd be right with you on it, but once the mini is over I'm sure the void will take a backseat.

Riiiight. . .and the Void is what the FIRST mini AND the New Avengers story-arc AND this mini deal with. . .there's a perfect definition of STALE.

unkiedev
03-24-2006, 10:42 AM
I wish this complex hero wasn't handcuffed to the Void all the time. It's getting stale.
This I agree with. The part of the Sentry I found the most interesting was his past interactions with heroes and the new, weird villians in his rouges gallery.

I'd like to see the Sentry fighting some of the weirdo villians in his trade, with them possibly ALSO being completely forgotten because of his mind-wiping powers....But then your problem is: The guy is more powerful then Superman, so how is any villian going to pose a threat?

No Mini needs to take 6 issues to deal with one villian...who, as we all know, isn't going to go away. The Void is the other half of the Sentry. At the Beginning of this mini the Void was semi-defeated. At the end he'll be the same, sitting in the back corner of the Sentry universe until someone wants to dig him up again.

I've read the Trade. I've seen the Sentry deal with the Void. I've read the New Avengers arch. Again, he deals with the void. If that's all this one-trick-pony can do then I'm taking my eyeballs elsewhere.

-I'm not bashing. He's a really interesting character/concept, it's too bad his book isn't that interesting (at least up to #3, when I jumped ship.)

Danger Dude
03-24-2006, 10:46 AM
But The void is what this mini is dealing with. If it was an ongoing I'd be right with you on it, but once the mini is over I'm sure the void will take a backseat.

True, but they might deal with it in an unexpectant way. Didn't Rob say in #6 that The Sentry was the seperate being and that he was The Void? The Sentry could be done away with completely, and the Marvel U. would have a villian no one could stop. Just a guess, but wouldn't that be cool?

Danger Dude
03-24-2006, 10:46 AM
But The void is what this mini is dealing with. If it was an ongoing I'd be right with you on it, but once the mini is over I'm sure the void will take a backseat.

True, but they might deal with it in an unexpected way. Didn't Rob say in #6 that The Sentry was the seperate being and that he was The Void? The Sentry could be done away with completely, and the Marvel U. would have a villian no one could stop. Just a guess, but wouldn't that be cool?

unkiedev
03-24-2006, 10:49 AM
Riiiight. . .and the Void is what the FIRST mini AND the New Avengers story-arc AND this mini deal with. . .there's a perfect definition of STALE.
Exactly. The Sentry trade is 6 issues, plus 4 one shots. The Avengers series was, what?, 4 issues? The New Sentry book is a 6 issue deal.

This guy's been fighting the same villian for 20 issues? What if Batman ONLY fought the joker for 2 years straight?

Danger Dude
03-24-2006, 10:52 AM
But The void is what this mini is dealing with. If it was an ongoing I'd be right with you on it, but once the mini is over I'm sure the void will take a backseat.

True, but they might deal with it in an unexpected way. Didn't Rob say in #6 that The Sentry was the seperate being and that he was The Void? The Sentry could be done away with completely, and the Marvel U. would have a villian no one could stop. Just a guess, but wouldn't that be cool? As for why I like The Sentry...I realized a while ago how few super-heroes ther are who have a cape and the basic super-strength, flight, etc., and almost all the ones I can think of are DC characters. The realization just made me appreciate them more. And he's only six years old, so he's a living example that the super-hero genre isn't sucked dry.

Danger Dude
03-24-2006, 10:56 AM
Sorry, guys. I don't know what the hell is going on with my posts.

Sentinel K
03-24-2006, 11:12 AM
True, but they might deal with it in an unexpected way. Didn't Rob say in #6 that The Sentry was the seperate being and that he was The Void? The Sentry could be done away with completely, and the Marvel U. would have a villian no one could stop. Just a guess, but wouldn't that be cool?

That would be cool yeah. I have to say I have been really enjoying this mini.

I didn't read the original mini, but I do read new Avengers so read the sentry arc, and I'm finding The sentry to be one of the most interesting characters in a long time.

That said, 8 issues is quite a lot for a mini. 6 issues would have been a better number, and maybe people wouldn't be complaining so much.

I still can't wait to read #7 and #8.

Danger Dude
03-24-2006, 11:51 AM
I didn't read the original mini, but I do read new Avengers so read the sentry arc, and I'm finding The sentry to be one of the most interesting characters in a long time.

You've gotta pickup the TB of the original. It. Is. Awesome.

Grizsly
03-24-2006, 11:54 AM
Joe Quesada: Say, Paul, who's going to be the villain in the next story arc for the Sentry?

Paul Jenkins: The Void.

Joe Quesada: Again? [sighs heavily]

Paul Jenkins: [in a shrill, rising tone of voice] What do you mean by that?

Joe Quesada: Nothing. [sighs again]

Quoted for truth. :p

the Hornet
03-25-2006, 12:36 AM
A question of Sentry's chronology. Did he debut before or after the FF ?

Tony Starkz
03-25-2006, 12:49 AM
Riiiight. . .and the Void is what the FIRST mini AND the New Avengers story-arc AND this mini deal with. . .there's a perfect definition of STALE.

Alright dude,we know you hate Sentry's guts,we get it.

IMO,the aspect of the Void really drives the story.That fact that this hero is constantly tied to and at odds with his dark side,his opposite,really makes this classic in the sense.

Along with Ares,this is Marvel's best current mini-series.

moon knight
03-25-2006, 12:52 AM
A question of Sentry's chronology. Did he debut before or after the FF ?
immediately prior to FF

Effect
03-25-2006, 01:05 AM
So this whole time they've been focusing on the Void? ugh

Honestly when he first appeared he seemed interesting. A superman-like character for Marvel should be pretty interesting is what I thought. If this whole time he's been on the sofa dealing with the "Void" then I"m not even going to bother with the character. I thought they had dealt with that at the end of the Sentry arc in New Avengers?

Get him out fighting bad guys, stoping crimes, dealing with a super villans that he has to fight but can't touch due to him being in the public eye and needing to get proof, etc. Something instead of this Void mess.

Tony Starkz
03-25-2006, 10:31 AM
So this whole time they've been focusing on the Void? ugh

Honestly when he first appeared he seemed interesting. A superman-like character for Marvel should be pretty interesting is what I thought. If this whole time he's been on the sofa dealing with the "Void" then I"m not even going to bother with the character. I thought they had dealt with that at the end of the Sentry arc in New Avengers?

Get him out fighting bad guys, stoping crimes, dealing with a super villans that he has to fight but can't touch due to him being in the public eye and needing to get proof, etc. Something instead of this Void mess.

If you've been reading the mini,you would know that he has been out there fighting super villains,stopping crime,and going on rescue missions.

Effect
03-25-2006, 10:59 AM
Ah I see. I figured the way people were talking they were just talking about the whole Void thing. Guess I shouldn't have jump the gun.

Another question. How is his marriage situation? Better now?

Tony Starkz
03-25-2006, 01:05 PM
Ah I see. I figured the way people were talking they were just talking about the whole Void thing. Guess I shouldn't have jump the gun.

Another question. How is his marriage situation? Better now?

Liindy's boy-toy got killed in that plane crash into a building.Rob still hasn't shown any awareness of the affair.

Effect
03-25-2006, 01:19 PM
Okay let me get this straight. All of the concern she showed for him during the New Avengers arc yet at the same time she was still having an affair? Had it started while he was locked up or did she start it after the New Avenger's arc? Does she even feel bad she did it or not really care cause she simply doesn't want to help him through his troubles? Is so is it's explained why she is even still married to him if she'd rather be with someone else?

Is this a big part of the series? Is it made up to look like she might get hers in the end? How far had her affiar gone? It had gotten sexual or not that far?

Sorry for all the questioning it's just that cheating is one of the things that seriously sets me off real or fake and I'd just rather not read a story where it takes place (rather not be around people in real life that do this either if I can help it, just one of those things). One thing if a person isn't married, still dislike it but can deal with it better. So if it's a major part or it looks like she might not be found out and get away with it without paying or looks like she doesn't even care she's betraying Sentry I'd rather not spend time on the series.

Seems like I was wrong about him stopping bad guys, etc. Don't want to jump the gun here as well.

Jagernaut
03-25-2006, 01:58 PM
There's no real proof she was even cheating on Sentry. However, there is alot of proof showing that Bob would be extremely jealous of the guy. Even Worth notices it.

Tony Starkz
03-25-2006, 02:01 PM
The previews for #7 look wacked out.If this is one of those,everything beforehand was just in his mind things,then I am going to kill myself.

pesmerga316
03-25-2006, 03:09 PM
Pertaining to the affair and the plane "crash"

Its basically explained that when the Sentry does something really heroic, it is countered by the Void doing something terrible, a balancing issue to his playing God per se.

Rob (who is the Void it seems) saw what was going on, made snarky comments on it yet never addressed it. In exchange for the Sentry saving 100 something people, the void then made the plane crash into that dudes building killing him and the exact same number of people that the Sentry saved. Chaos Theory really, when Lindy is telling Rob about her yoga guy maybe having died, he just smirks and makes another comment and walks off. So yes the Void/Robert intentionally killed that Ramon guy, to justify it he saved a bunch of people that would have died as the Sentry

Doom Hammer
03-25-2006, 07:31 PM
I'm with ya unkiedev - maybe I'll get the trade. . .if there's a global shortage of toilet paper.

(ZING!)

Irrational hatred of a fictional character makes you...cool?

Come off it already.

Grizsly
03-27-2006, 12:09 PM
Irrational hatred of a fictional character makes you...cool?

Come off it already.

No, I just like expressing my utter and complete disgust with this useless, boring character. This IS a board for opinions, is it not?

So piss the hell off.

unkiedev
03-27-2006, 12:46 PM
No, I just like expressing my utter and complete disgust with this useless, boring character. This IS a board for opinions, is it not?

So piss the hell off.
Right on, Grizzly. Remember: We are ALL posting on a comic book message board, therefor we are ALL far from cool. United we stand.

Will.S
03-27-2006, 02:05 PM
Right on, Grizzly. Remeber: We are ALL posting on a comic book message board, therefor we are ALL far from cool. United we stand.
The problem isn't Grizsly's opinion of the Sentry, it's the fact that he beats us over the head with it infinite ad nauseam.

jadegiant77
03-27-2006, 02:18 PM
So I got a look at next week's Sentry in Marvel's first looks envelope yesterday, and I perused it. . .

S

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I didn't have to read it to know he's going to spend time talking to a shrink, but guess what? He does, at length, discussing how his psychosis is still battling with the inner turmoil of (big suprise here!) THE VOID. . .

Then he spends some time in the park chatting with Sue Richards, discussing Reed's failed treatment attempts and his worry for the future because of (yep, here it comes again) The Void.

He finally ends up losing it (again) when he's confronted with an anti-matter version of his fortress deep under ground, and the issue ends with a caption telling how The Sentry will have to face the fury of (yup, ONCE MORE, ALL TOGETHER!!!) THE VOID!!!!

So apparantley next issue is the final showdown.

Until the next time he has a headache.

You go, Jenkins!!! :p

YAY! We get to basically read a retelling of the far superior original mini?? I'm so (NOT) there!!! I can't believe I'm saying this, but Bendis shoulda wrote this mini. He set up a very interesting storyline (with the Void being a creation of Mastermind and the General), only to have Jenkins ignore it and regurgitate what he'd written before. I'm so putting the issues I have of this in the paper shredder.

Will.S
03-27-2006, 02:26 PM
YAY! We get to basically read a retelling of the far superior original mini?? I'm so (NOT) there!!! I can't believe I'm sayibng this, but Bendis shoulda wrote this mini. He set up a very interesting storyline (with the Void being a creation of Mastermind and the General), only to have Jenkins ignore it and regurgitate what he'd written before. I'm so putting the issues I have of this in the paper shredder.
I think you would be better off reading the actual book than reading a biased summary of what happened in the book. You can formulate your own opinions better that way.

jadegiant77
03-27-2006, 02:34 PM
I think you would be better off reading the actual book than reading a biased summary of what happened in the book. You can formulate your own opinions better that way.

Um..I actually read THREE ISSUES of that crap b4 I gave up on the series, bub. :p

Tony Starkz
03-27-2006, 02:44 PM
Um..I actually read THREE ISSUES of that crap b4 I gave up on the series, bub. :p

Well you haven't read all of it.I assume alot of the people bashing this book are too mentally challenged to comprehend what's going on.

Will.S
03-27-2006, 03:14 PM
Um..I actually read THREE ISSUES of that crap b4 I gave up on the series, bub. :p
I was actually referring to reading Sentry #7 (when it comes out) since it's still not over yet to really call it a repeat of the first mini.

unkiedev
03-27-2006, 03:17 PM
Well you haven't read all of it.I assume alot of the people bashing this book are too mentally challenged to comprehend what's going on.
Bullsnort, Starkz. I read three issues of the thing too, jadegiant77, and I agree it's boring, repetitive and throws the already tenuous Marvel Continuity out the window.

“…too mentally challenged to comprehend what's going on”? gimme’ a break. It’s a comic book, and it ain’t even a complex one. This is not “Finnegan’s Wake: The Comic book”, here.

Want a sum-up of the first three issues? He punches some people, talks to his shrink and is nuts. Pretty complex. An all powerful hero possibly has an all powerful villain that is probably himself, although it could all be in his head.

This isn’t Morrison’s “Flex Mentallo”, or “Sea Guy.” This isn’t Alan Moore’s “From Hell” or “Watchmen.” This is a guy in yellow tights talking to a shrink while his wife sleeps with an aerobics instructor. This is Marvel trying to do a vertigo book.

…and after three issues, this is no longer on my “buy” list.

Tony Starkz
03-27-2006, 04:01 PM
Bullsnort, Starkz. I read three issues of the thing too, jadegiant77, and I agree it's boring, repetitive and throws the already tenuous Marvel Continuity out the window.

“…too mentally challenged to comprehend what's going on”? gimme’ a break. It’s a comic book, and it ain’t even a complex one. This is not “Finnegan’s Wake: The Comic book”, here.

Want a sum-up of the first three issues? He punches some people, talks to his shrink and is nuts. Pretty complex. An all powerful hero possibly has an all powerful villain that is probably himself, although it could all be in his head.

This isn’t Morrison’s “Flex Mentallo”, or “Sea Guy.” This isn’t Alan Moore’s “From Hell” or “Watchmen.” This is a guy in yellow tights talking to a shrink while his wife sleeps with an aerobics instructor. This is Marvel trying to do a vertigo book.

…and after three issues, this is no longer on my “buy” list.


Too bad,you haven't read the whole thing so your opinion is nothing but toilet paper.

Doom Hammer
03-27-2006, 06:15 PM
No, I just like expressing my utter and complete disgust with this useless, boring character. This IS a board for opinions, is it not?

Sure it is. The problem being, some people's opinions are based in ignorance and are pretty not worth the time taken to read them. Especially the ones that make a whole bunch of opinion-based statements with no actual support, and then are passed off as fact.

For example: yours, on the Sentry.

OMG?!?! People DON'T like the Sentry?!?!

Good to see that doesn't stop you from posting about a fictional character you dislike that you could otherwise easily ignore.

I'm not COMPLETELY thrilled with the latest mini, so it's not like I defend it blindly. But seriously, any legitimate complaints, outside of the obvious "I don't like the character"?

So piss the hell off.

Where am I pissing off to, here? This is the internet...am I gonna go in the other room and cry?

Grizsly
03-28-2006, 08:16 AM
Tell yez what - when my posts about my dislike for the Sentry equal the amount of times he has pissed and whined about the Void, we'll call it even and I'll stop.

Until then, The Sentry blows, and this week's issue is just another perfect example of what a wasted piece of crap character he is.

As fer legitimate complaints, DH, well, how about for starters he hasn't gotten past the problems he had in his first mini, AND his New Avengers story arc, AND this mini. It's the same old CRAP that Jenkins has been shilling the entire time. "Oh no, the Void!" Euuuch.

And don't give me crap that he fights other villians, because I don't consider a one page confrontation with Terrax worth the crusted up gunk under the Thing's rocky nostrils. It's a cheap way of showing a hero with uber-level power who can take on all comers without breaking a sweat, yet he's cursed by his darker side and freaks out trying to handle it.

WE GET IT. HE HAS MENTAL PROBLEMS. THE VOID WILL ALWAYS BE THERE. HIS BASIC PROBLEMS WILL ALWAYS BE THE SAME. That is the PERFECT definition of a stale character.

Lock him the hell up again, kill him off, and while we're at it, get rid of that awful repetitive Jenkins tool. When you look up "stale" in the dictionary, there should be a picture of the Sentry next to it. When you look up "lame," you should see a reference to Jenkin's work on the Sentry.

How's that for specifics? And if you hadn't been so quick to jump at me, you could've seen SEVERAL posts detailing SPECIFICALLY why I think the Sentry is a big heaping pile of ****, but you wanted to get in your petty little "Come off it already" dig, so I kindly said piss off.

If you want to go cry in another room, well, I'll allow you out of pity.

Oh yes and

Too bad,you haven't read the whole thing so your opinion is nothing but toilet paper.

That logic is even more flawed than the Sentry's pyschosis. I think it's been clearly defined, many many times, that if you've read the original mini and the New Avengers arc, you pretty much have the gist of the current piece of crap series. A few new discussions with shrinks/heroes, a few more twists on the same old Sentry is the Void is the Sentry schtick, and a revealing of the Void's anti Sentry tower built underground does not break new ground. Sorry, pal.

Tony Starkz
03-28-2006, 08:25 AM
This thread is entitled Sentry #7 of the current series.The fact that you are basing your "arguments" that this book is crap off of the previous mini,NA,and the first 3 issues is toilet paper in itself.And you're basing this off of a preview?

That's like saying,"oh yea,I saw X1,X2 and only the first 15 mins of X3,and X3 sucked".

If you had read all 6 issues of this current series,I would give you a little more credibility rather than shuyting on you as I have.I really find it hard to believe that you part-own a store.Most LCS owners I know are pretty mature and reserved when it comes to talking comics.

They don't sound like 15 year olds going on and on like "ohhhh,this sucks!!!!Sentry is crap!!!!!!oh yeaaa,i only read the first 3 issues but i dont care because it suckkkzzz!!11".

So before I,or anyone else on here can take you seriously in your opinions,do yourself a favor and grow up.

unkiedev
03-28-2006, 08:40 AM
This thread is entitled Sentry #7 of the current series.The fact that you are basing your "arguments" that this book is crap off of the previous mini,NA,and the first 3 issues is toilet paper in itself.And you're basing this off of a preview?

That's like saying,"oh yea,I saw X1,X2 and only the first 15 mins of X3,and X3 sucked".

If you had read all 6 issues of this current series,I would give you a little more credibility rather than shuyting on you as I have.I really find it hard to believe that you part-own a store.Most LCS owners I know are pretty mature and reserved when it comes to talking comics.

They don't sound like 15 year olds going on and on like "ohhhh,this sucks!!!!Sentry is crap!!!!!!oh yeaaa,i only read the first 3 issues but i dont care because it suckkkzzz!!11".

So before I,or anyone else on here can take you seriously in your opinions,do yourself a favor and grow up.
Why do you keep calling things toilet paper? That's odd.

-look, I'm not speaking about #7. I stopped buying after #3. I'm commenting on the series in general. I am aware I haven't read it all. Do you know how many movie reviews, book reviews, album reviews or play reviews are written by people who didn't stick the whole thing out? That doesn't mean the review is "Toilet Paper."

I'm a strange kind of comic book fan: I like things to happen in my books. After 3 issues the hero should be further along then at the beginning. The Sentry doesn't move. Nothing happens.

I have nothing to say about #7 except I won't be buying it. I can give you a rough estimation of what I expect happens: He can't figure out what is real or not, The void probably kills more people, he'll get upset, he'll talk to his shrink (who is probably also him) and some other Marvel character will make an appearance to make the Sentry look big.

-and fer' crying out loud, relax.

Grizsly
03-28-2006, 08:59 AM
If you had read all 6 issues of this current series,I would give you a little more credibility rather than shuyting on you as I have.I really find it hard to believe that you part-own a store.Most LCS owners I know are pretty mature and reserved when it comes to talking comics.



I really don't care what you believe. I am a part owner, I HAVE read all SEVEN issues of the current series, and the great part is I didn't feel so bad since I didn't have to buy them (except #1, which I picked up with high hopes, actually. It was the stale story and non progression which have bogged it down for me as the series wore on.).

In fact, we all get a kick in the store reading the new issues when they come out and seeing how little the story grows. We make predictions on what will happen, they are much like what unkiedev says in his last post, and guess what? They're pretty goddamn accurate.

I'm a big lover of comic books. I've read quite a few over the years. I truly feel the Sentry is one of the biggest ripoffs Marvel has released in ages. They presented him as this huge, larger than life and ridiculously powerful character, got everyone all excited about him when he ripped Carnage in half, and since then he's done SQUAT except babble on about his stupid psychosis, worry about the Void, and have far less than meaningful interactions with other assorted Marvel characters.

Therefore, I have no problem whatsoever expressing my specific dislikes for the character, as many others here do as well. If every Sentry thread was filled with ass lapping praises, it'd be just as stale as his current mini series is.

You obviously have a problem with anyone that hates the Sentry.

Hell, if people were bashing characters I love, I'd be defending them as well, but with you it seems like a personal vendetta, especially when you're accusing me of false representation as a part owner.

But that's cool - I still get my books at cost no matter what you believe, and I still get the perverse satisfaction of seeing the new issues of Sentry a week early and having the opportunity to rip them apart, both figurativley and literally. And that brings me far more pleasure than arguing with a petty person like you.

So feel free to spew more accusations, I'll happily defend myself and my opinion of this awful, boring character, series, writer, and concept. The only good thing about the Sentry series is JRJR, whose art is always fun to check out. He's not the be all end all of comic artists, but he's damn good. It's just too bad he's gotta work on such a horrible book.

unkiedev
03-28-2006, 09:40 AM
O.k., let's all calm down.

Grizz thinks the Sentry is slow moving and that's putting it nicely. So do I.

Tony Starkz thinks that lots of stuff is going on. Too each their own.

Looks like the Golden God is controversial, at any rate.

Grizsly
03-28-2006, 10:07 AM
Heh - the voice of reason. I LIKE IT!

I will agree with you though - he is a controversial character these days - there's a very obvious split between lovers and haters. . .I guess that MIGHT have been Marvel's plan all along. . . :rolleyes:

unkiedev
03-28-2006, 10:12 AM
I keep wanting to post here, but I suppose I should take it on over to the "Love it or hate it: Sentry" thread (or whatever it's called).

Tony Starkz
03-28-2006, 11:25 AM
Yea you should take it over there because your opinion is nothing but CRAP to me.Just being honest.I can't find a review credible when someone hasn't read the entire series up to now.If you've read up to #6,sure I'd listen.But when someone starts whining and crying about how "nothing happens" or how it's "crap" when they haven't even read the majority of the series,then your opinion is TOILET PAPER to me.

By the way Unkiedev,you should be familiar with TOILET PAPER since it looks like you use it on Grizsly's bum bum.

Grizsly
03-28-2006, 12:02 PM
Right, well, hard to argue with such SHOCKINGLY witty remarks as "bum bum," but as I said, TS, I HAVE read the entire series, but since my viewpoint doesn't agree with yours I guess it's not something you want to recognize, huh?

Either way, as a regular buyer of the Sentry you too should be familiar with toilet paper as that's all the crappy rag is good for.

unkiedev
03-28-2006, 12:50 PM
Yea you should take it over there because your opinion is nothing but CRAP to me.Just being honest.I can't find a review credible when someone hasn't read the entire series up to now.If you've read up to #6,sure I'd listen.But when someone starts whining and crying about how "nothing happens" or how it's "crap" when they haven't even read the majority of the series,then your opinion is TOILET PAPER to me.

By the way Unkiedev,you should be familiar with TOILET PAPER since it looks like you use it on Grizsly's bum bum.
This is a joke, right? This guy is pulling my leg?

"bum bum?"

This is no doubt THE most immature post I've ever seen, here or on any other board. I'm impressed :o

Tony Starkz
03-28-2006, 04:14 PM
This is a joke, right? This guy is pulling my leg?

"bum bum?"

This is no doubt THE most immature post I've ever seen, here or on any other board. I'm impressed :o

Sorry,I meant ass.If you didn't get the joke,you're an idiot. :D

Bring Him Back
03-28-2006, 06:16 PM
ok i have to say i like sentry and i have issues 1,3,4 and 5 i missed number 2 b/c i wasnt exactly keen on Sentry at the time but i like the book and the direction its going. with that said.... ive read the reviews for issue 6 and i saw the preview for issue 7 and i must say im am deeeeeeeeply confused by whats going on right now...idunno how to do spoiler tags so im not gonna go into details. But i will ask this...is that mastermind talking to him in the beginning??

Young Avenger
03-29-2006, 06:02 PM
So I got a look at next week's Sentry in Marvel's first looks envelope yesterday, and I perused it. . .

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I didn't have to read it to know he's going to spend time talking to a shrink, but guess what? He does, at length, discussing how his psychosis is still battling with the inner turmoil of (big suprise here!) THE VOID. . .

Then he spends some time in the park chatting with Sue Richards, discussing Reed's failed treatment attempts and his worry for the future because of (yep, here it comes again) The Void.

He finally ends up losing it (again) when he's confronted with an anti-matter version of his fortress deep under ground, and the issue ends with a caption telling how The Sentry will have to face the fury of (yup, ONCE MORE, ALL TOGETHER!!!) THE VOID!!!!

So apparantley next issue is the final showdown.

Until the next time he has a headache.

You go, Jenkins!!! :p

I just finished reading the issue and you are wrong for most part. The Sentry wakes up in a brighty light room where's doctor talks to him. He tells him that his name John Victor Williams not Robert Reynolds. Lindy Lee wasn't his wife, she was his next door neighbor Melinda Jensen whom he murdered. John's doctor tells him he's been experincing memory loss and has imagine strange things happening to him. The people John has meet like Hulk, Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four were all in his head. They were characters John created for his fantasy world. John's doctor told him that a few years ago he began thinking that his alarm clock was talking to him. Soon after his "Cloc" began following him around. While John was drawing he sees Sue Richards. Unfortunely for him she was not Sue Richards. She was a nurse who looked like her. They start to talk and he saws her his drawings of characters he made up like The Vision, Danny Boy, The Fantastic Four and Spider-Man.

After that, John goes to talk with his doctor who tries to convince him that everything was in his Imagination. There is no Sentry, no Void, No Robert Reynolds. He explains to John that he can't remember his life as a hero in its entirely because it contradicts itself as it never happened. He imagine being a godlike savior who constantly fought against his dark side. John denies it. The doctor tells the week after he arrive, John decided that the doc will be "the professor" who gave him the secret serum that gave him his powers. In reality, he just administered his medicine that often gave him feelings of Euphoria. "Cloc" was nothing more than a symptom of Disorganized-type Schizophrenia. "Cloc" was the voice in John's head who decided who lived and who died so John wouldn't take responsibility for his actions.

The Marvel universe and all the characters were just declusions that John believed have become real. John believed that Melinda Jensen (Lindy Lee) was his wife even though they weren't married. He followed her to her apartment and killed her. He was caught by the police before he had the chance to jump off the roof of the apartment building. The Doctor said that "Cloc" told him to do it but later changed his story that the Void did it. The truth was he killed her because he is mentally ill. John starts to let everything sink in until he notices something on his hand. The doctor claim that John was never married but he has a suntan mark on his ring finger. He catching on and everything hes seen and told as been a lie. It was a mind trick played on him by Doctor Strange with help from the Professor. Sentry breaks free from Doc Strange illusion screaming "I am real"! Sentry then punches Strange in the face and their is a jetfighter outside with Nick Fury inside. The Sentry goes over to the professor demanding him to tell him what makes him so dangerous to mankind. The professor can't tell him because he has a small thermonuclear device inside his chest that will detonate if he says a certain series of words or key phases. The professor tells Sentry that the Void has been telling him all along but he hasn't figured it out yet. Fury gets nervous and activites the thermonuclear decive within the professor. The Sentry takes the professor up to space so no one can die in the explosivison (sp?). Before he dies the professor tells him that he'll find all the answers he seeks at the heart of the Void.

Reed Richards wasn't involved, the Void wasn't the focus of the issue, the discussion he had with his doctor was about how the Sentry and the Marvel universe wasn't real. The next time you make a spoiler thread make sure you read the damn issue! :mad:

Tony Starkz
03-29-2006, 06:21 PM
I just finished reading the issue and you are wrong for most part. The Sentry wakes up in a brighty light room where's doctor talks to him. He tells him that his name John Victor Williams not Robert Reynolds. Lindy Lee wasn't his wife, she was his next door neighbor Melinda Jensen whom he murdered. John's doctor tells him he's been experincing memory loss and has imagine strange things happening to him. The people John has meet like Hulk, Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four were all in his head. They were characters John created for his fantasy world. John's doctor told him that a few years ago he began thinking that his alarm clock was talking to him. Soon after his "Cloc" began following him around. While John was drawing he sees Sue Richards. Unfortunely for him she was not Sue Richards. She was a nurse who looked like her. They start to talk and he saws her his drawings of characters he made up like The Vision, Danny Boy, The Fantastic Four and Spider-Man.

After that, John goes to talk with his doctor who tries to convince him that everything was in his Imagination. There is no Sentry, no Void, No Robert Reynolds. He explains to John that he can't remember his life as a hero in its entirely because it contradicts itself as it never happened. He imagine being a godlike savior who constantly fought against his dark side. John denies it. The doctor tells the week after he arrive, John decided that the doc will be "the professor" who gave him the secret serum that gave him his powers. In reality, he just administered his medicine that often gave him feelings of Euphoria. "Cloc" was nothing more than a symptom of Disorganized-type Schizophrenia. "Cloc" was the voice in John's head who decided who lived and who died so John wouldn't take responsibility for his actions.

The Marvel universe and all the characters were just declusions that John believed have become real. John believed that Melinda Jensen (Lindy Lee) was his wife even though they weren't married. He followed her to her apartment and killed her. He was caught by the police before he had the chance to jump off the roof of the apartment building. The Doctor said that "Cloc" told him to do it but later changed his story that the Void did it. The truth was he killed her because he is mentally ill. John starts to let everything sink in until he notices something on his hand. The doctor claim that John was never married but he has a suntan mark on his ring finger. He catching on and everything hes seen and told as been a lie. It was a mind trick played on him by Doctor Strange with help from the Professor. Sentry breaks free from Doc Strange illusion screaming "I am real"! Sentry then punches Strange in the face and their is a jetfighter outside with Nick Fury inside. The Sentry goes over to the professor demanding him to tell him what makes him so dangerous to mankind. The professor can't tell him because he has a small thermonuclear device inside his chest that will detonate if he says a certain series of words or key phases. The professor tells Sentry that the Void has been telling him all along but he hasn't figured it out yet. Fury gets nervous and activites the thermonuclear decive within the professor. The Sentry takes the professor up to space so no one can die in the explosivison (sp?). Before he dies the professor tells him that he'll find all the answers he seeks at the heart of the Void.

Reed Richards wasn't involved, the Void wasn't the focus of the issue, the discussion he had with his doctor was about how the Sentry and the Marvel universe wasn't real. The next time you make a spoiler thread make sure you read the damn issue! :mad:

For ****'s sakes,thank you Young Avenger!Finally some truth and fact in this thread.Looking forward to this 2mrw.

mattspideyrocks!
03-29-2006, 07:02 PM
Yeah Tony just to let you know, I picked up #7 today and let me tell you it's even better than it sounds in the spoiler there. And I'm not saying that to get people yelling at me. I'm saying that because that's my opinion. But anyway, I hope you enjoy it as much as I did man. Really well done. The last issue is gonna be nuts.

And by the way. No offense Grizsly but I really don't think you should be shooting your mouth off like this, part owner or not. You are the one that posted this thread and decided to write a smartass spoiler post about the book. So before you try to justify shoving his own words down his throat, maybe you should take this crap more seriously and not act like a goddamn teenager hitting puberty. Y'know, since you are a big, sophisticated part owner and all and you know your comic stuff.

Harold of the Rocks
03-29-2006, 09:25 PM
I could care less about the previous banter, but I will say the original review is in my mind filled with inaccuracies and holes...

Young Avenger did a much more accurate review of the book as it was written. The only thing I would add was that the nuclear device implanted in 'The Professor' (and Mary Ann...) was done so at his request. He had it done so he could never tell anyone why the Sentry was created and how. So something about his origin is so big, that the professor asked Sentry to do his best to forget it once he does learn it. Same reason Strange was messing with Sentry's mind, there is something very sinister or menacing about his origin, and he's only gonna get it from The Void.

Also, I thought it was cool how the summary/background page was written in terms of John Victor Williams, not Robert Reynolds, which in a way reinforced the 'lie' we were learning from the professor. Nice touch.

While I thought the possibility that Sentry's mind would be revealed to be messed with in this issue, I didn't see it being the good guys doing it. Intriguing little spin. I kind of am hoping we find that he really isn't 'tied' to The Void as aspects of the same person. It would be nice to see him free to kick some cosmic arse without him (and the readers as well) fearing that The Void will have to show up immediately to balance his goodness. Well, either way, this has been a pretty fun ride for me, and that's what it's all about anyway.

Slumber Hulk
03-30-2006, 09:53 AM
This series would have been better as either 6 issues not 8 eight. Or better yet, completely covered in the 6 New Avengers iss's he got. S T R E T C H! They are just milking the cow too long. And ever mini we get gives him a new backstory, backing the others obsolete. We better learn something definitive in 8 or I'm going to riot soccer style!

unkiedev
03-30-2006, 10:12 AM
This series would have been better as either 6 issues not 8 eight. Or better yet, completely covered in the 6 New Avengers iss's he got. S T R E T C H! They are just milking the cow too long. And ever mini we get gives him a new backstory, backing the others obsolete. We better learn something definitive in 8 or I'm going to riot soccer style!
be real careful around here, slumber hulk, when you state that the Sentry Mini is anything short of perfect. There are some pretty rabid fanboys around.

...But I totally agree with you. Eight issues is a lot. At 3$ a comic, that's 24 bucks to read about the world's strongest madman.

Tony Starkz
03-30-2006, 12:04 PM
Got this today and wow.The "spoiler" review on the first page could not be more inaccurate.

I was ready to lose it after the last page of last issue.I was worried they were going to pull a "everything that happened before never did" stunt.

Turns out Sentry is being sedated,imprisoned,and brainwashed by Fury,some agents,the professor,and most shockingly enough,Dr. Strange.

Like come on,how awesome was the "I'm Real!" page?Pure gold.

The ending was great and a very good setup.I really like how every single issue in this mini so far has been building on the last and moving forward.

I'm really curious as to what this whole conspiracy against the Sentry is and what the Void has to say about it.

Awesome issue. A+

mattspideyrocks!
03-30-2006, 12:24 PM
Got this today and wow.The "spoiler" review on the first page could not be more inaccurate.

I was ready to lose it after the last page of last issue.I was worried they were going to pull a "everything that happened before never did" stunt.

Turns out Sentry is being sedated,imprisoned,and brainwashed by Fury,some agents,the professor,and most shockingly enough,Dr. Strange.

Like come on,how awesome was the "I'm Real!" page?Pure gold.

The ending was great and a very good setup.I really like how every single issue in this mini so far has been building on the last and moving forward.

I'm really curious as to what this whole conspiracy against the Sentry is and what the Void has to say about it.

Awesome issue. A+

Yeah it was that good. It should make for a very good ending in April.

Sentinel K
03-30-2006, 12:26 PM
This issue blew my mind. Best issue yet.

The 'review' at the start of this thread is total bollocks.

StoneGold
03-30-2006, 05:52 PM
be real careful around here, slumber hulk, when you state that the Sentry Mini is anything short of perfect. There are some pretty rabid fanboys around.

...But I totally agree with you. Eight issues is a lot. At 3$ a comic, that's 24 bucks to read about the world's strongest madman.
Because obviously, anyone who doesn't agree with you is a rabid fanboy. They couldn't possibly like a book on it's own merits. You are so much better than them.

Neolucifer
03-30-2006, 11:15 PM
Either way, my review of the Sentry was accurate
Really ? wich part was even accurate and wich part was a review ?

Anyway the funny thing is the amount of energy spent by the hater to even start himself the thread for the issue , so impatient that he was to thow his venom :p

There isnt really anything left to say , everyone liking the book and defending against your trollism will be a rabid fanboy ... and you indeed have a right to keep on buying (or reading watever the excuse is...) the whole mini of a character you despised anyway (its not even as if it was the excuse of a huge revamp by grant morrison , its pretty much the same guy , written by his creator..) ... a book that you know will find no redeeming value , even in its last issue , before your eyes
Though we as much have the right , to think something quite not flattering about your IQ , ego , and personality .. even if not allowed to directly say so , except in a flowery and "elegant" way ;) ...

Anyway as for the book itself , i prefered the previous issues , but its still great .
8/10

unkiedev
03-31-2006, 08:56 AM
Because obviously, anyone who doesn't agree with you is a rabid fanboy. They couldn't possibly like a book on it's own merits. You are so much better than them.
Ah, Blow-it-out-yer-old-wazzoo.

Yer' putting words in my mouth, Stonegold. That h'ain't right, dangit.

Tony Starkz
03-31-2006, 08:57 AM
The fact that someone wrote a fake review just to bash a character is a laugh in itself.You should really concentrate on focusing your negative energy into something else.

unkiedev
03-31-2006, 09:33 AM
Well, Heck, Starkz, I had nothing to do with that. I read the same posts you were reading. All I ever said was I liked the character but I didn't think the comic was living up to it's potential.

The recent (accurate) review of the book certainly throws another twist in the Sentry's path. I'm just not a fan of the book, is all.

Tex Avery, Cartoon Genius that he was, talked about how he set up his gags. He said he had to spend a long time to set up what was normal so that it would be funny for a character to break the laws of his world. For example, a cartoon in which Characters are Popping their eyeballs out and floating in midair is only funny if you establish they usually don't look like that, that gravity exists, etc.

The original Mini was about Bob thinking he was crazy, but it turns out he's the greatest hero in the history of Marvel. Then The Avengers series changed that to him being crazy AND the greatest Hero potentially. It sounds like this new series is about him being crazy again, but they might change that, too.

The story reminds me of the Buñuel film "The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie". The film seems to be a piece about class struggle, with upper-class dinner guests having a conversation about the lower classes...each time they get into it, something bizarre happens and they all wake up at another party, the party before being a dream. This repeats over and over until there is no real reality.

-What does any of this have to do with the Sentry? The reason I dropped the book was I wanted to read about how the Sentry fit into the Marvel world, not a book that would consistently change the history of the character and the universe on such a consistent basis that there IS no continuity to adhere to.

Again, he is a Vertigo character in the Marvel world. If you like the Sentry, try Flex Mentallo, or Miracle Man, or the Enigma.

StoneGold
03-31-2006, 02:02 PM
Ah, Blow-it-out-yer-old-wazzoo.

Yer' putting words in my mouth, Stonegold. That h'ain't right, dangit.
Yes, because I made you call people who like Sentry rabid fanboys. Goddamn I'm good!

Phrozen
03-31-2006, 02:04 PM
Yes, because I made you call people who like Sentry rabid fanboys. Goddamn I'm good!

How about impressed with psuedo-intellectual clap trap?

Iraq_n_Roll
03-31-2006, 02:13 PM
I havent read the issue yet, but I just want to give Jenkins kudos.



It seems almost impossible to introduce NEW characters in the Marvel universe and make them even half interesting. Every new character and villian in the past 10 years seems to have a shelf life of about 4 issues and is quickly forgotten when the next writer comes along.


To see a character like the Sentry grow legs and be embraced is great. There's so much depth to be explored here, reminds me of some of the old Marvel concepts like the Omega Man (which, Im dying to see some writer take a stab at)


So yeah, a big salute to Jenkins, Im looking forward to this, and the last issue.

StoneGold
03-31-2006, 02:23 PM
How about impressed with psuedo-intellectual clap trap?
Yes, because as said earlier, you are so much smarter than the rest of us for being able to figure out that it's pseudo-intellectual clap trap.

Man, you're better than the rest of us for being able to use the word clap trap.


Can you define it?

Phrozen
03-31-2006, 02:30 PM
Yes, because as said earlier, you are so much smarter than the rest of us for being able to figure out that it's pseudo-intellectual clap trap.

Man, you're better than the rest of us for being able to use the word clap trap.


Can you define it?

Pretentious, insincere, or empty language

Tony Starkz
03-31-2006, 02:41 PM
Pretentious, insincere, or empty language

Those are the perfect words to describe the "review",if you want to call it that,which started this thread.

StoneGold
03-31-2006, 05:13 PM
Pretentious, insincere, or empty language
See, told you I was goddamn good. I made you define stuff. BOW BEFORE ME!!!

Bring Him Back
03-31-2006, 06:16 PM
could this be another factor that plays into civil war? i mean with doc strange screwin w/ sentry n all....hmm i wonder if they keep trying to blackball hulk and sentry they could be cruising for a bruisin. god forbid Hulk and sentry team up against the MU thatd be funny...but obviously Thor would save the day j/k lol

Tony Starkz
03-31-2006, 07:10 PM
could this be another factor that plays into civil war? i mean with doc strange screwin w/ sentry n all....hmm i wonder if they keep trying to blackball hulk and sentry they could be cruising for a bruisin. god forbid Hulk and sentry team up against the MU thatd be funny...but obviously Thor would save the day j/k lol

I was thinking the same thing.Strange didn't get to explain what was going on.Fury was there too so it must have been huge.

mattspideyrocks!
04-01-2006, 05:59 AM
could this be another factor that plays into civil war? i mean with doc strange screwin w/ sentry n all....hmm i wonder if they keep trying to blackball hulk and sentry they could be cruising for a bruisin. god forbid Hulk and sentry team up against the MU thatd be funny...but obviously Thor would save the day j/k lol

That's a really good theory and it's quite possible. Good thinking man.

unkiedev
04-03-2006, 07:52 AM
I never said I didn't like the character of the Sentry, I said I didn't think the book lived up to the character's potential.

As far as the Sentry being a lead in to Civil War...it would be cool. They hardly use him in New Avengers and they didn't touch him at all in House of M. It's almost like no Marvel Editor wants to give him a break or knows what to do with him.

mattspideyrocks!
04-03-2006, 01:04 PM
I never said I didn't like the character of the Sentry, I said I didn't think the book lived up to the character's potential.

As far as the Sentry being a lead in to Civil War...it would be cool. They hardly use him in New Avengers and they didn't touch him at all in House of M. It's almost like no Marvel Editor wants to give him a break or knows what to do with him.

That's true. They need to start getting him involved in the big events happening to the rest of the MU. He seems a bit too self-contained in his own problems even though he is a member of the New Avengers and stuff. If they want to keep his credibility up and make him a major player, he needs to be in Civil War somehow in my opinion. From the looks of some of the pictures though, he most likely wil be. So that's good.

Speaking of Sentry, on a side-note, can anyone tell me why the hell he has long hair in Sentry and then the next time you see him, he's got short hair in New Avengers, even though they are both coming out at the same time?

unkiedev
04-03-2006, 01:12 PM
I think the only explination is he got a haircut? ;)

There are multiple Sentry threads on this board, the Marvel Universe board and I think the Civil War board. He sure is making waves.

-IN the New Avengers arch it is implied that his old enemy, "The General" had mastermind (or someone) give him a memory erase. Has this been dealt with in the new Sentry mini?

mattspideyrocks!
04-03-2006, 01:17 PM
I think the only explination is he got a haircut? ;)

There are multiple Sentry threads on this board, the Marvel Universe board and I think the Civil War board. He sure is making waves.

-IN the New Avengers arch it is implied that his old enemy, "The General" had mastermind (or someone) give him a memory erase. Has this been dealt with in the new Sentry mini?

OH YEAH!!!! A HAIRCUT!!!WHY DIN'T I THINK OF THAT?!?!?!
lol. Another good old piece of continuity.
The only thing that dealt with the General right now was in issue 3 when Sentry went to find him in the Negative Zone. The General was killed by the Void. That was about the only General reference in this whole thing I think.

G. Wayne
04-03-2006, 01:25 PM
...
-IN the New Avengers arch it is implied that his old enemy, "The General" had mastermind (or someone) give him a memory erase. Has this been dealt with in the new Sentry mini?

I've been wondering about that too. Jenkins' stuff is almost kinda sorta nearly starting to fit together, but the New Avengers arc throws a rather large wrench into the works, imho. /Seems/ like Bendis was trying to go a different route with the origin of the Void, but hopefully the next issue will explain it.

And as for the hair, I do like the Sentry better with it longer. Seems like an artistic thing though. Romita Jr, the HoM cover guy and Finch like it longer, Cho and McNiven like it shorter. *shrugs*

unkiedev
04-03-2006, 01:35 PM
I hope Dan Slott writes a Spider-Man/Sentry mini in which he works the Haircut into continuity.

I like him better with the long hair, too. He's a silver-age hero fallen on hard times and the Aquaman hair cut and beard captures that look. Plus it makes him look more like Ian Anderson or Grant Morrison.

dopexvii
04-03-2006, 04:01 PM
well despite seeing plenty of slander against the sentry
i for oneand really enjoying it, it's something a little different so patience is needed but it pays off to be patient !
im looking forward to the last issue to see how this is all gonig to pan out, will it be a quick fix or a final solution ?
and how will it effect his position in the avengers
obviosly some depowering is going to happen i'd imagine or he's just going to continue to smoosh villains ( ala the 1st issues of this mini)
but also what then? what direction will the writers take him? hopefully not leaving a great chance hanging in limbo...

jadegiant77
04-03-2006, 04:11 PM
Well you haven't read all of it.I assume alot of the people bashing this book are too mentally challenged to comprehend what's going on.

Great. So we don't agree with you, so we must be mentally defective, right? I'm intelligent enough to know that I don't like something after three issues, so I decided not to waste my money on it anymore. If that makes me mentally challenged so be it.

(You're playing with fire, kid. The mods don't take too kindly to ppl insulting each other, and you may be banned. You can disagree without insulting someone.)

BTW, WTF is up with ppl going on the attack because others don't adore "your" book/hero/whatever? Everyone calm the f**k down already! Some ppl don't like the book, it's not the end of the world. Hell, if I went off everytime someone said Sailor Moon sucks ass, I'd have had a massive coronary by now. Get over yourselves.

Kevinroc
04-03-2006, 04:16 PM
Great. So we don't agree with you, so we must be mentally defective, right? I'm intelligent enough to know that I don't like something after three issues, so I decided not to waste my money on it anymore. If that makes me mentally challenged so be it.

(You're playing with fire, kid. The mods don't take too kindly to ppl insulting each other, and you may be banned. You can disagree without insulting someone.)

But people should actually "read the comic" if they are going to review it on a messageboard. The original poster has gone on record as stating how much they hate The Sentry and still started this thread with its very inaccurate information regarding the contents of this particular issue.

That just doesn't make some of the non-Sentry fans look good.

Gaz
04-03-2006, 04:19 PM
Great. So we don't agree with you, so we must be mentally defective, right? I'm intelligent enough to know that I don't like something after three issues, so I decided not to waste my money on it anymore. If that makes me mentally challenged so be it.

(You're playing with fire, kid. The mods don't take too kindly to ppl insulting each other, and you may be banned. You can disagree without insulting someone.)

BTW, WTF is up with ppl going on the attack because others don't adore "your" book/hero/whatever? Everyone calm the f**k down already! Some ppl don't like the book, it's not the end of the world. Hell, if I went off everytime someone said Sailor Moon sucks ass, I'd have had a massive coronary by now. Get over yourselves.
It wasn't unprovoked. The thread starter hates the character so much he started this thread to mock it. Not exactly a shining beacon of civility on that side either.

But you are right, people should calm down and stay away from personal shots.

Danger Dude
04-22-2006, 09:52 PM
They don't sound like 15 year olds going on and on like "ohhhh,this sucks!!!!Sentry is crap!!!!!!oh yeaaa,i only read the first 3 issues but i dont care because it suckkkzzz!!11".

Wait, I'm fifteen and I don't talk like that. And Besides, I like The Sentry.

Danger Dude
04-22-2006, 09:59 PM
I just finished reading the issue and you are wrong for most part. The Sentry wakes up in a brighty light room where's doctor talks to him. He tells him that his name John Victor Williams not Robert Reynolds. Lindy Lee wasn't his wife, she was his next door neighbor Melinda Jensen whom he murdered. John's doctor tells him he's been experincing memory loss and has imagine strange things happening to him. The people John has meet like Hulk, Spider-Man and the Fantastic Four were all in his head. They were characters John created for his fantasy world. John's doctor told him that a few years ago he began thinking that his alarm clock was talking to him. Soon after his "Cloc" began following him around. While John was drawing he sees Sue Richards. Unfortunely for him she was not Sue Richards. She was a nurse who looked like her. They start to talk and he saws her his drawings of characters he made up like The Vision, Danny Boy, The Fantastic Four and Spider-Man.

After that, John goes to talk with his doctor who tries to convince him that everything was in his Imagination. There is no Sentry, no Void, No Robert Reynolds. He explains to John that he can't remember his life as a hero in its entirely because it contradicts itself as it never happened. He imagine being a godlike savior who constantly fought against his dark side. John denies it. The doctor tells the week after he arrive, John decided that the doc will be "the professor" who gave him the secret serum that gave him his powers. In reality, he just administered his medicine that often gave him feelings of Euphoria. "Cloc" was nothing more than a symptom of Disorganized-type Schizophrenia. "Cloc" was the voice in John's head who decided who lived and who died so John wouldn't take responsibility for his actions.

The Marvel universe and all the characters were just declusions that John believed have become real. John believed that Melinda Jensen (Lindy Lee) was his wife even though they weren't married. He followed her to her apartment and killed her. He was caught by the police before he had the chance to jump off the roof of the apartment building. The Doctor said that "Cloc" told him to do it but later changed his story that the Void did it. The truth was he killed her because he is mentally ill. John starts to let everything sink in until he notices something on his hand. The doctor claim that John was never married but he has a suntan mark on his ring finger. He catching on and everything hes seen and told as been a lie. It was a mind trick played on him by Doctor Strange with help from the Professor. Sentry breaks free from Doc Strange illusion screaming "I am real"! Sentry then punches Strange in the face and their is a jetfighter outside with Nick Fury inside. The Sentry goes over to the professor demanding him to tell him what makes him so dangerous to mankind. The professor can't tell him because he has a small thermonuclear device inside his chest that will detonate if he says a certain series of words or key phases. The professor tells Sentry that the Void has been telling him all along but he hasn't figured it out yet. Fury gets nervous and activites the thermonuclear decive within the professor. The Sentry takes the professor up to space so no one can die in the explosivison (sp?). Before he dies the professor tells him that he'll find all the answers he seeks at the heart of the Void.

Reed Richards wasn't involved, the Void wasn't the focus of the issue, the discussion he had with his doctor was about how the Sentry and the Marvel universe wasn't real. The next time you make a spoiler thread make sure you read the damn issue! :mad:

Jeez man, you ruined it for me.

Danger Dude
04-22-2006, 10:01 PM
So before you try to justify shoving his own words down his throat, maybe you should take this crap more seriously and not act like a goddamn teenager hitting puberty. Y'know, since you are a big, sophisticated part owner and all and you know your comic stuff.

For crap's sake, stop talking like this!

Tony Starkz
04-22-2006, 10:47 PM
But people should actually "read the comic" if they are going to review it on a messageboard. The original poster has gone on record as stating how much they hate The Sentry and still started this thread with its very inaccurate information regarding the contents of this particular issue.

That just doesn't make some of the non-Sentry fans look good.

Boooyah.Nuff said.