New Mutants...

[Joe Bullseye]

In the early 80's Marvel brought us the New Mutants. I loved it for quite some time but then it just faded away for me. Why has that series never been able to stick or make a great comeback? I love the first 30 something issues but never cared for it since. Any one care to discuse their New Mutant issues?

[fishtaco]

In the early 80's Marvel brought us the New Mutants. I loved it for quite some time but then it just faded away for me. Why has that series never been able to stick or make a great comeback? I love the first 30 something issues but never cared for it since. Any one care to discuse their New Mutant issues?it continued as X-Force. When did you drop it?

[DDM]

I like any The New Mutants #1-85; however, I favor the Claremont issues over the Louise Simonson issues. Magik, Magma, Cypher, & Warlock addition to the team made it far more dynamic & opened several new storylines. I was glad Magik did not die during Inferno, but the editors did not know what to do with her character afterwards. I like how Magma is related to Selene, the Black Queen, yet nothing really has come from this subplot.

[Twigglet]

I have the first 4 issues I think it is, and have the next 6 on order.

It seems pretty mediocre, so far, but it's good enough to keep me buying, plus I have Sienkiewicz art to look forward to, so I'll continue to buy it.

[DDM]

I have the first 4 issues I think it is, and have the next 6 on order.

It seems pretty mediocre, so far, but it's good enough to keep me buying, plus I have Sienkiewicz art to look forward to, so I'll continue to buy it.

The New Mutants #7-11 is the Nova Roma storyline which introduces Magma, Selene, & the Cult of Fire has become one of my favorite stories. When Magik joins in The New Mutants #14 is also a good story, but you need to read Magik #1-4 to fully understand the issue. The introduction of the Hellions is good from The New Mutants #15-17.

Jackson Guice does well with the art chores in latter New Mutants stories.

[The Lucky One]

Well, I'm probably the biggest New Mutants fan you'll find in the world; that series is my bread and butter. If you only read the first 30 issues or so, though, you missed out... there was some great stuff later on, and issues 41-45 were probably the strongest the series ever got- five straight done-in-one issues with not a loser in the batch. I'm not sure I would say it wasn't able to stick, though- it hung around for 100 issues, and if you consider the fact that most of the characters stuck around for another 100+ under a new name, that's pretty darn impressive. Cannonball and Wolfsbane have been used almost without interruption since 1983, and Sunspot and Moonstar rarely go more than a few years before popping up again.

Really, if there's any problem, it's that Marvel introduces a new generation of X-kids every decade like clockwork. Don't get me wrong, I understand why they do it from a business standpoint, it's just that every new class dilutes the importance of earlier ones, because the current X-Men will never really retire or go away, so where do the young graduates go? Gen X is already all but forgotten, and the New Mutants just get shoved off to various other teams. Which sometimes works extremely well (X-Factor), but sometimes not. They deserve better, but until they all get reorganized into a new team book or join the X-Men proper, lots of people will continue to see them as second-stringers.

Was there a particular New Mutants story/character/issue you wanted to talk about, JB?
:)

-D

[Joe Bullseye]

I read up till Mutant Massacre. i stopped somewhere between that and the first Cable. Didn't like Cable at all. I liked Bishop, read X-men and X-factor, but once Excalibor came out it turned me off. Never even tried X-force. It would have been alot better to me if they New Mutants had stayed in the black and yellow instead of the stupid costumes they came up with later in the series. What was so good about it after issue 50?

[The Lucky One]

I have the first 4 issues I think it is, and have the next 6 on order.

It seems pretty mediocre, so far, but it's good enough to keep me buying, plus I have Sienkiewicz art to look forward to, so I'll continue to buy it.

To be honest, it didn't start to get really good until the mid-teens, when the White Queen recruited Doug Ramsey and kidnapped Kitty Pryde. Not that it was actually bad before that, it just felt a little like it was coasting, waiting for something. Sienkiewicz and Davis, I guess.

-D

[Steven F.]

I think New Mutants were the best when they had all nine classic muties. After Karma rejoined, plus the new additions. PRICELESS.

[DDM]

I think New Mutants were the best when they had all nine classic muties. After Karma rejoined, plus the new additions. PRICELESS.

But Karma left the team in New Mutants #54 to look for her siblings. She was not seen again until Wolverine (1988's ongoing series). Karma was thought dead when the kids believed she drowned in New Mutants #6, but had really been possessed by the Shadow King which was not resolved until The New Mutants #29-34. Karma actually spent the least time with the other New Mutants.

Karma also never moved into the mansion; she lived in an apartment.

[Indigo Al]

You can count me among the Simonson/Blevin era haters.

[Steven F.]

But Karma left the team in New Mutants #54 to look for her siblings. She was not seen again until Wolverine (1988's ongoing series). Karma was thought dead when the kids believed she drowned in New Mutants #6, but had really been possessed by the Shadow King which was not resolved until The New Mutants #29-34. Karma actually spent the least time with the other New Mutants.

Karma also never moved into the mansion; she lived in an apartment.

Doesn't change the fact that my favorite time was when she had rejoined...after they had thought her dead, and after she was back to her normal size. BEFORE she went to look for her siblings.

[Mind Shadow]

Hmm... notice how they took most of the multicultural New Mutants out?

Magik - Russian
Karma - Chinese
Moonstar - Native American (Although she is around lately)
Sunspot - Hispanic
etc. etc.

And the ones who graduated to the later X-Force when Cable and Domino around were: Shatterstar, Cannonball, Boom Boom, Rictor, etc. etc.

[The Lucky One]

And the ones who graduated to the later X-Force when Cable and Domino around were: Shatterstar, Cannonball, Boom Boom, Rictor, etc. etc.

Crackers!!!

-D

[Mind Shadow]

Is that an insult? :confused:
Oh, and btw, don't forget to add Syrin to the list. She's uhmm... you know. :cool:

[riotgear]

You can count me among the Simonson/Blevin era haters.

You can count me on the other end of that spectrum. :)

[Jellobay]

You can count me on the other end of that spectrum. :)

I'm with you dude. Simonson rocked. :)

[Ryan K]

Hmm... notice how they took most of the multicultural New Mutants out?

Magik - Russian
Karma - Chinese
Moonstar - Native American (Although she is around lately)
Sunspot - Hispanic
etc. etc.

And the ones who graduated to the later X-Force when Cable and Domino around were: Shatterstar, Cannonball, Boom Boom, Rictor, etc. etc.

Well to be fair Shatterstar didn't really graduate to X-Force. He was introduced for X-Force. His first appearence was the last issue of New Mutants. And Rictor was Hispanic of some sort wasn't he? Feral too. The there's Warpath who was also Native American. And Sunspot was gone for what, like all of 12 issues.

[Faded]

And Karma is Vietnamese, not Chinese IIRC. :)

[riotgear]

And Karma is Vietnamese, not Chinese IIRC. :)
You do. :)

[Weapon Ick]

New Mutants > X-Force

[Mind Shadow]

I was just observing... :rolleyes:
And I forgot that Karma was the Viatnamese chick. ;)

[Jellobay]

I was just observing... :rolleyes:
And I forgot that Karma was the Viatnamese chick. ;)

The term is Viatnamese Lady. :)

[rilokyle]

Awww I love the old New Mutants. Seeing as I was born in 1987, I obviously found issues in the backbins, but definately loved each issue I had. I agree, the Claremont issues were awesome- such great characterization and teenage angst, as well as good subplots. I also liked how there wasn't a supervillain every issue, but stand alone issues which developed the characters more, such as issue #45 which is a gem.

I also loved when the 9 mutants were all on the same team- I don't think any other x-team has had that many team members before! Of course, there were many times when only half of them were featured. I felt bad for Karma because she got the shaft, only in 20-odd issues. Magik was the bed character and I really loved her fight with her demonic side. I really did like the Simonson/Blevins run- for some reason I liked the art ALOT. The death of Cypher makes me cry, and I miss Bird-Boy and Gosamyr. I wonder whatever happened to them?

From my personal opinion, the series peaked at the Inferno crossover: which by the way I LOVE. I loved the Magik plot and I thought it was very well-written. Of course then she got de-aged and the writers just wrote her out, despite probably being the fan-favorite of the series. After her departure it definately went down-hill. The addition of the X-Terminators was alright: I really liked Rusty and Skids, but they were written out in like 5 issues. And then Moonstar left, and then Warlock died, and Rahne left, and Rictor left, and Sunspot left, and we were left with one shitty team featuring characters I still care nothing about. And Cable? I hated him.

So yeah, there's my little speel about the New Mutants. They were the first spin-off series from the X-Men, and probably my favorite of the teenager teams.

[fireball87o]

Awww I love the old New Mutants. Seeing as I was born in 1987, I obviously found issues in the backbins, but definately loved each issue I had. I agree, the Claremont issues were awesome- such great characterization and teenage angst, as well as good subplots. I also liked how there wasn't a supervillain every issue, but stand alone issues which developed the characters more, such as issue #45 which is a gem.

I also loved when the 9 mutants were all on the same team- I don't think any other x-team has had that many team members before! Of course, there were many times when only half of them were featured. I felt bad for Karma because she got the shaft, only in 20-odd issues. Magik was the bed character and I really loved her fight with her demonic side. I really did like the Simonson/Blevins run- for some reason I liked the art ALOT. The death of Cypher makes me cry, and I miss Bird-Boy and Gosamyr. I wonder whatever happened to them?

From my personal opinion, the series peaked at the Inferno crossover: which by the way I LOVE. I loved the Magik plot and I thought it was very well-written. Of course then she got de-aged and the writers just wrote her out, despite probably being the fan-favorite of the series. After her departure it definately went down-hill. The addition of the X-Terminators was alright: I really liked Rusty and Skids, but they were written out in like 5 issues. And then Moonstar left, and then Warlock died, and Rahne left, and Rictor left, and Sunspot left, and we were left with one shitty team featuring characters I still care nothing about. And Cable? I hated him.

So yeah, there's my little speel about the New Mutants. They were the first spin-off series from the X-Men, and probably my favorite of the teenager teams.

well put!

I love the New Mutants. They're classic and ultimately enjoyable. Remember the trip to Asgard-what a feel-good time!
The teamates are great;
Magik (vs. the darkside)
Cannonball (southern bumpkin)
Magma (and her love affair with Empath)
Sunspot (hothead)
Skids (okay so only for a few issues!)
Mirage (i liked when she protested Magneto and stood strong on her beliefs...great maturity in her throughout the run)
Rahne (innocent and pure)
Cypher (he doesn't need pity...he'll find other ways to use his power in battle!)
Warlock (alien-friend)


and to top it all off the team was set againt the rival school of the Massachusetts Academy -> Hellions...it was almost too much of a good thing! I would have liked to seen Catseye take Rahne up on her offer join the New Mutants.

[Mariah]

I'd say the best issues would be: 8-54. Claremont really got his groove going around this time, and really made these characters breathe. Still good stuff. Louise had a handful of good issues, but her X-Factor was much better. Also, didn't like the x-terminators coming on. They blew. Really sucked when Liefeld came on board.

[Twigglet]

The New Mutants #7-11 is the Nova Roma storyline which introduces Magma, Selene, & the Cult of Fire has become one of my favorite stories. When Magik joins in The New Mutants #14 is also a good story, but you need to read Magik #1-4 to fully understand the issue. The introduction of the Hellions is good from The New Mutants #15-17.

Jackson Guice does well with the art chores in latter New Mutants stories.

Crap, I guess only ordering up to #10 is really going to annoy me when I want the final part of this arc :p

[The Sword Is Drawn]

Why hasn't it stuck? Curious concept...

It made 100 issues as New Mutants before effectively becoming X-Force. The characters had pretty much grown up. The "New" Mutants didn't really make much sense as a title.

The obvious choice, I always believed, would have been to move the original characters on, mostly into the X-Men or into satellite titles. Those who stayed with the X-Men could then have acted as mentors for a new string of recruits to the book.

If this had been thecase the confusion over ages that has occured between The New Mutants, Generation X and New X-Men would not have been so much of an issue, as their would have been a contineous 'youth' X-Book.

[Alex A Sanchez]

I think the solution here is to simply retire some of the current X-men! Maybe there can be a book about the EX-men, where Scott, Bobby, Ororo, Peter, Warren, Betsy and Remy all sit in wheel chairs, reminnice about the good-ole days and fight amongst each other over the most stupid mundane petty arguments. I agree that the X-Universe it too crowded: there's a whole new cast of kids in the mansion these days who I have no idea about (nor do I seem to care, which is not good).

[The Sword Is Drawn]

I agree that the X-Universe it too crowded: there's a whole new cast of kids in the mansion these days who I have no idea about (nor do I seem to care, which is not good).

That's the way I felt from the legacy of the Morrison era, and Academy X. I dropped the latter after 7 issues. I just didn't care about half these characters.

But since Decimation, and picking up the relaunch, I actually quite like the smaller New X-Men team. The book isn't near as overcrowded, and has many of the better elements of both New Mutants and Generation X to it.

[fishtaco]

Awww I love the old New Mutants. Seeing as I was born in 1987, I obviously found issues in the backbins, but definately loved each issue I had. I agree, the Claremont issues were awesome- such great characterization and teenage angst, as well as good subplots. I also liked how there wasn't a supervillain every issue, but stand alone issues which developed the characters more, such as issue #45 which is a gem.

I also loved when the 9 mutants were all on the same team- I don't think any other x-team has had that many team members before! Of course, there were many times when only half of them were featured. I felt bad for Karma because she got the shaft, only in 20-odd issues. Magik was the bed character and I really loved her fight with her demonic side. I really did like the Simonson/Blevins run- for some reason I liked the art ALOT. The death of Cypher makes me cry, and I miss Bird-Boy and Gosamyr. I wonder whatever happened to them?

From my personal opinion, the series peaked at the Inferno crossover: which by the way I LOVE. I loved the Magik plot and I thought it was very well-written. Of course then she got de-aged and the writers just wrote her out, despite probably being the fan-favorite of the series. After her departure it definately went down-hill. The addition of the X-Terminators was alright: I really liked Rusty and Skids, but they were written out in like 5 issues. And then Moonstar left, and then Warlock died, and Rahne left, and Rictor left, and Sunspot left, and we were left with one shitty team featuring characters I still care nothing about. And Cable? I hated him.

So yeah, there's my little speel about the New Mutants. They were the first spin-off series from the X-Men, and probably my favorite of the teenager teams.You pretty much summed it all up. I like Cable, though.

My favorite issues of New Mutants are #'s 18-20, 30-31, 35, 53, 55, 61, 75, Annuals 2, 6.

DEMON BEAR!!!!!!!!!!!

[Joe Bullseye]

What they should do is make a comic about the report-cards on the original New Mutants team were in each book they can do flash back stories about the first 9 mutant. "New Mutants: Case Study" Get out the old Black and Yellow uniforms and give us the classic youngsters. Or "New Mutants: Class Reunion". In which the first team desides they want to be together again.
As for the best of the old books the intro-graphic novel was always incredible. And as I stated the first 50 rock after that I quit so I don't know about the later stuff.

[DoubleShot]

What they should do is make a comic about the report-cards on the original New Mutants team were in each book they can do flash back stories about the first 9 mutant. "New Mutants: Case Study" Get out the old Black and Yellow uniforms and give us the classic youngsters. Or "New Mutants: Class Reunion". In which the first team desides they want to be together again.
As for the best of the old books the intro-graphic novel was always incredible. And as I stated the first 50 rock after that I quit so I don't know about the later stuff.

Loved the series and I would buy this.

[DDM]

Crap, I guess only ordering up to #10 is really going to annoy me when I want the final part of this arc :p

Well, Amara officially joins in The New Mutants #13; they stay is Brazil after they defeat Selene. Amara is very sad to learn she's a mutant with very little control over her power which The New Mutants #12 delves into. Therefore, you should order The New Mutants #7-13. Selene's next chronological appearance is Uncanny X-Men #183-184 when she makes it into Manhattan & finds Rachel Summers (Phoenix).

However, the complete team comes together--sort of a Rite of Passage--with The New Mutants #18-21 when Cannonball, Sunspot, Mirage, Magik, & Magma fight the Demon Bear. Warlock & Cypher join in the aftermath in the subplot of the Warlock/Magus storyline.

You'll have to reread The New Mutants #1 as David Haller is mentioned by Moira MacTaggert with Illyana in tow, but the storyline comes together in The New Mutants #26-28. The fun part is The New Mutants #29-31 happen at the same time Xavier is helping David Haller's release from his catatonic state.

[Rubicant]

Moonstar - Native American (Although she is around lately)

Specifically, Dani is Cheyenne. Just like Forge. Hmmm, I wonder why after all these years, we still don't know his real name? I wish they'd throw in a scene where Forge off-handedly refers to Dani as his favorite niece, just to bring it all together. We know he's not her father because of the Demon Bear incident, but it would be cool if they were related by blood.

[Mariah]

That's the way I felt from the legacy of the Morrison era, and Academy X. I dropped the latter after 7 issues. I just didn't care about half these characters.

But since Decimation, and picking up the relaunch, I actually quite like the smaller New X-Men team. The book isn't near as overcrowded, and has many of the better elements of both New Mutants and Generation X to it.
That's what i thought too. I was thinking that Grant outing the x-men, and everyone and their brother knowing that that's where the x-men were really sucked. That, and the mansion getting trashed every 6 months sucks too. (think of the property values.)

[Alex A Sanchez]

Specifically, Dani is Cheyenne. Just like Forge. Hmmm, I wonder why after all these years, we still don't know his real name? I wish they'd throw in a scene where Forge off-handedly refers to Dani as his favorite niece, just to bring it all together. We know he's not her father because of the Demon Bear incident, but it would be cool if they were related by blood.
When he fights the Adversary in X-Factor, he gets in touch with his Shaman roots and everyone keeps calling him Maker. Is that his real name?

[DDM]

When he fights the Adversary in X-Factor, he gets in touch with his Shaman roots and everyone keeps calling him Maker. Is that his real name?

No, Forge is the maker because he has the mutant ability create anything he imagines. Forge's real name has never been revealed. I don't see a need in revealing his real name.

[Alex A Sanchez]

I don't see a need in revealing his real name.

Well I do. I'm trying to rent a room to the guy, but I'm having one hell of a time running a credit check.

[Faded]

Whatever Forge's real name is, I hope it doesn't end in -'star'. ;)

[DDM]

Well I do. I'm trying to rent a room to the guy, but I'm having one hell of a time running a credit check.

Forge worked for the US government for several years. However, the government kept his real name classified. Mystique does not even know his real name, yet she discovered him under her guise as Raven Darkholme.

[fireball87o]

What they should do is make a comic about the report-cards on the original New Mutants team were in each book they can do flash back stories about the first 9 mutant. "New Mutants: Case Study" Get out the old Black and Yellow uniforms and give us the classic youngsters. Or "New Mutants: Class Reunion". In which the first team desides they want to be together again.
As for the best of the old books the intro-graphic novel was always incredible. And as I stated the first 50 rock after that I quit so I don't know about the later stuff.

totally would buy it

[riotgear]

Forge worked for the US government for several years. However, the government kept his real name classified. Mystique does not even know his real name, yet she discovered him under her guise as Raven Darkholme.

It's even possible that Forge could be his real name, since the Cheyenne would use objects and animals in their names. I doubt it, but just a thought.

[Alex A Sanchez]

It's even possible that Forge could be his real name, since the Cheyenne would use objects and animals in their names. I doubt it, but just a thought.

Homer J. Simpson's middle name was revealed to be "Jay", so you never know.

[fishtaco]

No point in revealing Forge's real name.

[Marty4Magik]

What they should do is make a comic about the report-cards on the original New Mutants team were in each book they can do flash back stories about the first 9 mutant. "New Mutants: Case Study" Get out the old Black and Yellow uniforms and give us the classic youngsters. Or "New Mutants: Class Reunion". In which the first team desides they want to be together again.
As for the best of the old books the intro-graphic novel was always incredible. And as I stated the first 50 rock after that I quit so I don't know about the later stuff.
I think this would please a lot of fans....and that is exactly the reason we will never see it.
Marvel doesn't like their old fans, they only like their new fans.

[Twigglet]

I think this would please a lot of fans....and that is exactly the reason we will never see it.
Marvel doesn't like their old fans, they only like their new fans.

See, again that is bullcrap, Marvel like fans who are paying for thier story.

If they could make money off a New Mutants book, they would make it, but for some reason they don't want to.

Marvel will sell to the fans who buy more, to say otherwise is idiotic.

[Joe Bullseye]

What about a New Mutants movie? What would it have to be based on?

[Twigglet]

Just got my pack of comics, I will read them soon :)

[magik420]

oh how i miss magik and cypher. i always LOVED magik and i cried when both cypher and her bit the bullet. i wish they would bring doug back (not douglock!) and also magik. i think magik would be soooo cool if she somehow just popped out of one of her stepping disks and was like "hey guys." she was always kinda sexy or somethin. when i was younger i had these marvel trading cards and jim lee was doing all the x-men art and the magik card was my fave :) and i think she was in some x-force annual, either 1 or 2... the shattershot thing.

[Marty4Magik]

and i think she was in some x-force annual, either 1 or 2... the shattershot thing.
Yes, indeed. The Shattershot x-over between the X-annuals...
Although it was a possible future Magik, I loved seeing her again! :cool:
(X-force annual # 1 IIRC)

[fishtaco]

Yes, indeed. The Shattershot x-over between the X-annuals...
Although it was a possible future Magik, I loved seeing her again! :cool:
(X-force annual # 1 IIRC)Yeah, it was X-Force (1st Series) Annual #1. Interesting story, but however, I was dissapointed to see these New Mutants/X-Forcers from another future when I am already infinitely intrigued by the New Mutants from the Days of Future Past that Louise Simonson introduced in New Mutants (1st Series) Annual #6.

The headmaster was Banshee, and it was mentioned that Forge was the co-headmaster, but he was killed by sentinels. Could Banshee and Forge's friendship (see Uncanny X-Men #'s 254-263) be another key event that would have turned the 616 universe into the DOFP if Claremont stayed on board?). And then there was that female teleporter, Blue. Who were her parents? Nightcrawler seems like an obvious choice, but the mother? Amanda Sefton, maybe? And then there was that Blaze guy. I have no idea what to make of him. Douglock was pretty obvious, though. And then there was that red guy. This is very frustrating, because I find these characters very interesting, and they likely won't be seen again because Harras fired Simonson. :cool:

[fireball87o]

i wish they would bring doug back (not douglock!) and also magik. i think magik would be soooo cool if she somehow just popped out of one of her stepping disks and was like "hey guys." she was always kinda sexy or somethin. when i was younger i had these marvel trading cards and jim lee was doing all the x-men art and the magik card was my fave :) and i think she was in some x-force annual, either 1 or 2... the shattershot thing.

i thought house of m presented the perfect chance to bring Magik back. It was a world of chaos, and Magik joined the Hellions squad, and eventually fought for good alongside the New X-Men. The character could have easily spillled over in 616 continuity when house of m closed. I was surprised Marvel didn't do more with Magik in the storyline, they just let her character slip away at the end.
It woulda been cool to have Magik and some of the original Hellions around
AND
she was always kinda sexy...in that lolita way
AND
I had those same trading cards. Jim Lee's Magik was awesome

[Marty4Magik]

i thought house of m presented the perfect chance to bring Magik back. It was a world of chaos, and Magik joined the Hellions squad, and eventually fought for good alongside the New X-Men. The character could have easily spillled over in 616 continuity when house of m closed. I was surprised Marvel didn't do more with Magik in the storyline, they just let her character slip away at the end.
It woulda been cool to have Magik and some of the original Hellions around
AND
she was always kinda sexy...in that lolita way
AND
I had those same trading cards. Jim Lee's Magik was awesome

I am glad HoM didn't return Magik...she deserves a better story then that.
(veryone who read Inferno knows what I mean)

And yeah, that Jim Lee Trading card pic is awesome...it's my avatar on ComiXfan. :D

[fishtaco]

i thought house of m presented the perfect chance to bring Magik back. It was a world of chaos, and Magik joined the Hellions squad, and eventually fought for good alongside the New X-Men. The character could have easily spillled over in 616 continuity when house of m closed. I was surprised Marvel didn't do more with Magik in the storyline, they just let her character slip away at the end.
It woulda been cool to have Magik and some of the original Hellions around
AND
she was always kinda sexy...in that lolita way
AND
I had those same trading cards. Jim Lee's Magik was awesomeFor a comic character of course, Magik was at her sexiest in New Mutants (1st Series) Special Edition #1, drawn by the llegendary Art Adams (Longshot). I only remember this becaues Magik is my second favorite character. :p

[Marty4Magik]

For a comic character of course, Magik was at her sexiest in New Mutants (1st Series) Special Edition #1, drawn by the llegendary Art Adams (Longshot). I only remember this becaues Magik is my second favorite character. :p
I knew there was a reason I liked you. :D

Art Adams' Magik is :droolsmilie here: .

[fireball87o]

I am glad HoM didn't return Magik...she deserves a better story then that.
(veryone who read Inferno knows what I mean)

And yeah, that Jim Lee Trading card pic is awesome...it's my avatar on ComiXfan. :D

Yeah, I know the Inferno story would be good to pick up (or that xm issue where a hand reaches out of the ground in limbo)...just saying since she was included in House of M, as were a bunch of dead characters, you'd think at least one or two would wind up in 616 as reminders/reprocussions of the time...or something.

[Marty4Magik]

Yeah, I know the Inferno story would be good to pick up (or that xm issue where a hand reaches out of the ground in limbo)...just saying since she was included in House of M, as were a bunch of dead characters, you'd think at least one or two would wind up in 616 as reminders/reprocussions of the time...or something.
Yeah, for some it would be the perfect chance to return (Pyro for example).
But Magik already has a clear and easy way out, she doesn't need HoM for her return.

Hmm, how about Hawkeye? Didn't he survive HoM?

[riotgear]

They already have a perfect way to return her. If you don't believe me, read the original Magik mini, and it's self-explanatory.