new South Park season

[The Xenos]

Anyone else catch tonight's new ep?

Wow. Just wow.

I was confused that Chef was featured in the ads. I heard Issac Hayes has left the show after the hulabaloo over the scientology ep.

Well it seems he did, because it sounded like they jsut spliced in sound clips from previous eps. What they did was jaw droppingly ballsy and pretty touching as well.


Chef starts acting weird in the lunchroom. He talks about having sex with the kids, instead of women. It turns out he joined "some fruity club". They had brainwashed him. It seems this Super Adventure Club was founed by some weird guy who found tranquility by going around the world having sex with children. These children had some power in them. Having sex with them passed along this power to the man, giving him eternal life. (On screen disclaimer: "This is what the Super Adventure actually belives.") So the boys go to get Chef some help. But the club finds out... and.. wow. I can't even find the words for how it all ends. The show was rather sincere that they loved Hayes and he will be missed, yet they also show their anger toward the 'secret club' that has torn him away from them.

[Crinos]

The Issac Hayes quitting was a rumor, he aint quitting.

Turns out his manager is a scientologist, and she quit for him. Issac recently had a stroke and he needs the money.

Matt and Trey probably made this episode, and found out he wasnt really quitting after the fact, but since issac wont be able to do work on South Park because of his Stroke they aired it anyways.

They'll probably bring the old Chef back when Issac gets better.

[kingdom2000]

I read about the stroke and all that but not the manager involvement. Where you read about the manager because everything I read the theory was what you said except who submitted the quitting statment.

Does have a certain logic though except doesn't explain why his family hasn't stepped up. Of course if the whole lot is in the cult that may be why.


As for the ep, man what they did to Chef was just wrong...and hilarious. I love the way they looped his dialogue from previous eps. Definilty worth seeing.

[Jeff Brady]

http://estoreal.blogspot.com/2006/03/time-for-chef-aid-ii.html

RAB tells us a little...

[kingdom2000]

Yeah I my blog links to same article. It asks the same question to: Who? Now we have a answer or a hypothetical?

[Crinos]

I read about the stroke and all that but not the manager involvement. Where you read about the manager because everything I read the theory was what you said except who submitted the quitting statment.

Does have a certain logic though except doesn't explain why his family hasn't stepped up. Of course if the whole lot is in the cult that may be why.


As for the ep, man what they did to Chef was just wrong...and hilarious. I love the way they looped his dialogue from previous eps. Definilty worth seeing.

Check the Chef quits thread on the TV/Film board. Thats where all my info comes from.

[Gail Simone]

Something's wrong with me. I found the looped vocals pretty funny, but I found the actual episode really a mean and ugly response, with the funeral ringing entirely hollow after making one of the few likeable characters on the show into a pedophile, for one thing. It felt very ugly and angry, and I think it actually sort of puts a damper on the previous episodes with Chef in them.

The funeral thing seemed fake as hell to me.

I know I'm out of the loop on this stuff, but I actually was completely bored by the end. The 'joobs' gag was perfectly timed, and a bright spot.

Family Guy and South Park both are relying way too much on "Oh, my, aren't we simply SHOCKING!?" and it's to the detriment of the shows, I think. I've rewatched the second and third seasons of Family Guy and they're funny and the stories are far better, for the most part. The new season seems to be much more about a desperate need to be scandalous, and it's pretty lousy, really (but with some brilliant exceptions).

Drawn Together seems to be the natural extension of this philosophy, where the constant, unending need to try to shock (in place of character, gags and story) actually makes it too damn dull to watch for me.

Am I nuts? I've been reading everywhere what a touching tribute this is to Chef, and I think that's being WAY too kind.

Gail

[Goody]

I don't think they ever confirmed that Chef had molested any kids, only that the Super Adventure Club had succeeded in brainwashing him into wanting to. I feel like there was a line by the head of the SAV where he'd said as much. I might be remembering it wrongly, tho. Or just splitting hairs.

At any rate, yeah this was pretty harsh on ol Chef. But on the same hand, I didn't expect them to pull any punches, specially remembering Stone's comments from last week. I appreciated the Kyle's eulogy tho, as it was pretty right on.

In closing: "DAAAANCE? ANYBODY WANT A DAAAAANCE?"

[Ogdred]

Family Guy and South Park both are relying way too much on "Oh, my, aren't we simply SHOCKING!?" and it's to the detriment of the shows, I think.

Every time I start to feel this way about South Park, they'll come up with a show that is so timely and spot-on in its satire that I have to forgive them for the dross. Last night's episode, though, felt rushed and somewhat ill-conceived.

I agree with you about Drawn Together. That show just bores the hell out of me. I've never been into Family Guy, either.

[Spackling Compound]

Every time I start to feel this way about South Park, they'll come up with a show that is so timely and spot-on in its satire that I have to forgive them for the dross. Last night's episode, though, felt rushed and somewhat ill-conceived.

I agree with you about Drawn Together. That show just bores the hell out of me. I've never been into Family Guy, either.
Drawn Together has overdone the gay jokes and gynecological jokes that to see it enter yet another season would be probably to see more of the same.

Family Guy is funny, to me. But it's become more about "in jokes" as in "let's see how many obscure cultural references in this episode".

South Park has never been a favorite of mine due to the "bad art" but I did like last night's episode but it's because I was expecting a kick in the balls to Scientology and Hayes. Well played.

[Ogdred]

The Issac Hayes quitting was a rumor, he aint quitting.

Turns out his manager is a scientologist, and she quit for him. Issac recently had a stroke and he needs the money.

I suppose the lesson here is: if you're going to have a stroke, don't join a cult first. Cults will totally take advantage of you if you have a stroke.

[The Xenos]

Well South Park almost always has a horrible over the stop story above whatever message they want to tell. They usually have horrible segments, then have a nice moral at the end for what they really were trying to say.

Of course sometimes they throw out this formula. The terrible ending of the Scott Tennerman ep comes to mind.

As for Hayes, I feel bad for the guy. If he really is ill, I do fear for him. Scientology might just dissapear him. I don't trust them at all. "Do what thou wilt" is NOT the whole of the law. Even if they are a church, they are not above the law. Lord knows I hear about that issue plenty living in Boston.