I'm a racist

[lonesomefool]

So I'm sitting in my Human Relations class today, and the subject of interracial dating comes up. I'm a laid back guy who doesnt care what other people do with their lives if it doesnt harm anyone. So anyway, the teacher calls on me out of the blue, and asks me

"What do you think about a white girl dating a african american male"

I say

"no problem with it, if it makes them both happy, go for it"

so she then says

"What about a Black girl dating a white guy"

I say

"No problem with it, if it makes them happy, go for it"

So anyway, this guy sitting a couple seats ahead of me, who happens to be black, say's he agrees with me on the first part, he says it's cool when a white girl dates a "brother" as he said (his words, not mine, so dont yell at me)

He then goes on to say that

"A black girl should never date a white guy, that aint right"

I open my big mouth and say

"What's the difference?"

He doesnt say anything for 10 seconds or so and then turns around, lookes me up and down and yells.

"RACIST"


So there you have it folks...I'm a racist :p

[Michael P]

That's bizarre. The only explanation I can think of is that he believes that when a woman marries outside her race, she leaves that race. So the white woman would be adding to the ranks of the black race, while the black woman would be subtracting from it.

[NickThompson]

What you should have done is shouted "BADGER!" at him. While he ponders the link between himself and a woodland animal, you can claim a moral victory.

[Crowley]

wow...

that GUY is the racist.

[PatrickG]

I was accused of being a racist for claiming that Democrats and Republicans both USE minority voters by pandering to them with no real intent of offering minorities tangible progress.

However, all was forgiven when I explained that I was NOT a Republican.

[i_mmmchocolate]

This seems ridiculous.

[Ravenheart]

This seems ridiculous.


I was just about to say the same thing.

[Bob Violence]

This seems ridiculous.
Yeah, until we accept the badger as our brother, there will never be peace on earth.

[lonesomefool]

I thought it was surreal really, I mean I dont know any woman who are dating black guys or anything as friends, but I see them in college all the time and I have no problem with it. I know some of my classmates like to make obvious jokes about it, and I do believe in SOME cases, not ALL, but in SOME cases it may be for "shock" purposes. But I never mentioned any of that, i just said I had no problem with it, and I dont, and next thing I know i get called a racist because I pointed out a flaw in someones logic.

The thing I should have brought up is how I can be a "african american loving racist" cause when I was in High School a REALLY racist kid called me a n-word lover. I just have never made a big deal about race or anything cause I really dont care, I have bigger worries, but I just had to laugh. I could see if I was against it or something....but man did it come out of left field.

[Jeff Brady]

He doesnt say anything for 10 seconds or so and then turns around, lookes me up and down and yells.

"RACIST"

You should have just said, "Pshh, nigga please!"

[Spike-X]

He doesnt say anything for 10 seconds or so and then turns around, lookes me up and down and yells.

"RACIST"



How bizarre.

[WhiteRose]

I semi-quasi understand this. I have black female friends who are so totally against a white girl dating one of their brothers because 'they're taking our men away from us', as in reducing the number of eligible black bachelors.

The racist comment, however, was completely out of line. He's a moron no matter what colour his skin is.

[heystacy]

As a black man I have no worriries about who dates whom. Date who you please.

The guy in your class is an asshole. If he's going to call you a racist, but can't exlain himself, then he's talking bullshit. Ignore him. It ain't worth your time to worry about what he said.

[Forsaken_One]

I semi-quasi understand this. I have black female friends who are so totally against a white girl dating one of their brothers because 'they're taking our men away from us', as in reducing the number of eligible black bachelors.
See, this is also the reason I support male homosexuality but don't support female homosexuality.

[WhiteRose]

See, this is also the reason I support male homosexuality but don't support female homosexuality.

Now that makes no sense. Is it because lesbians are taking away eligible bachelorettes?

Um... hate to break it to you, but if that's the case then they weren't really on the market for male consumption in the first place. :D

[Taltos]

wow...

that GUY is the racist.
No I think hes sexist

[Taltos]

Now that makes no sense. Is it because lesbians are taking away eligible bachelorettes?

Um... hate to break it to you, but if that's the case then they weren't really on the market for male consumption in the first place. :D
He against them being gay in the first place.

[Spike-X]

No I think hes sexist
What's wrong with being sexy?

[kingdom2000]

Bi ladies rule. Gay men are going to hell. Its in the bible. Lets be honest though, do you really think men would care about gay sex if it only occured with women and not men? I think not.

[kingdom2000]

He doesnt say anything for 10 seconds or so and then turns around, lookes me up and down and yells.
"RACIST"
So there you have it folks...I'm a racist :p

rule #1: If your white (and especially if a white male), reverse racism does not exist. Learn that now. It simply doesn't exist. To suggest otherwise is racist.

rule #2: If a non white displays behavior that seems racist, you are just confused and don't understand the situation. See rule #1

rule #3: To claim you are not racist, as a white is wrong. By definition you are white therefore a majority, therefore racist and you should do what you can to right the wrong you may have done, will do, have thought of doing or some great-great-great ancestor has done in the past. To suggest that is not right is racist. See rule #1.

rule #4: Never debate race. Ever. Red alarms should go off in your head so loud you can't hear anything else. Bail as fast as you can. See rules #1-3 for why.

That should help when the situation comes up again. Also, make sure the answer such questions with a question. For example, from that teacher for putting you on the spot (at the school I went to not answering that question correctly would have been a hospital visit by the end of the day) make them johnny on the spot. Force them to answer such a question as their answer could literally cost them their jobs.

[Cam63]

That's really sad, Lonesome.

I hope he learns better one day.

[Stephane Garrelie]

the guy is clearly both racist and sexist.

[Gaz]

Now that makes no sense. Is it because lesbians are taking away eligible bachelorettes?

Um... hate to break it to you, but if that's the case then they weren't really on the market for male consumption in the first place. :D
Yes, but we're competing for the bicurious drunk girls... :p

[Arilou]

I'm always curious about the term "Reverse Racism". My impression was that it meant that you held racist beliefs about *your own* race. (Uncle Ruckus in Boondocks is a great example, someone described an author as an "antisemitic jew" at some point, too) As soon as you hold negative views about *another* race it's just plain racism.

[hellokittykat]

I think it's some kind of weird game like 'Marco, Polo'. You know, like he says 'racist' then you say 'fascist'. The only difference is that in 'Marco, Polo' you keep your eyes closed, but in 'Racist, Fascist' you keep your eyes open since what only matters is what you see on the outside.

See, he was just playing a jolly game with you and in not replying you have jeopordized race relations for us all. Shame on you!

[taintedlunch]

You know what's hot? Black lesbians. Ask that guy if it's okay for a black girl to date a white girl.

[west3man]

So I'm sitting in my Human Relations class today, and the subject of interracial dating comes up. I'm a laid back guy who doesnt care what other people do with their lives if it doesnt harm anyone. So anyway, the teacher calls on me out of the blue, and asks me

"What do you think about a white girl dating a african american male"

I say

"no problem with it, if it makes them both happy, go for it"

so she then says

"What about a Black girl dating a white guy"

I say

"No problem with it, if it makes them happy, go for it"

So anyway, this guy sitting a couple seats ahead of me, who happens to be black, say's he agrees with me on the first part, he says it's cool when a white girl dates a "brother" as he said (his words, not mine, so dont yell at me)

He then goes on to say that

"A black girl should never date a white guy, that aint right"

I open my big mouth and say

"What's the difference?"

He doesnt say anything for 10 seconds or so and then turns around, lookes me up and down and yells.

"RACIST"


So there you have it folks...I'm a racist :p
Something's missing from this story.

If nothing else, your reaction and that of the other people within earshot - including the teacher.

[Motormouse]

So I'm sitting in my Human Relations class today, and the subject of interracial dating comes up. I'm a laid back guy who doesnt care what other people do with their lives if it doesnt harm anyone. So anyway, the teacher calls on me out of the blue, and asks me

"What do you think about a white girl dating a african american male"

I say

"no problem with it, if it makes them both happy, go for it"

so she then says

"What about a Black girl dating a white guy"

I say

"No problem with it, if it makes them happy, go for it"

So anyway, this guy sitting a couple seats ahead of me, who happens to be black, say's he agrees with me on the first part, he says it's cool when a white girl dates a "brother" as he said (his words, not mine, so dont yell at me)

He then goes on to say that

"A black girl should never date a white guy, that aint right"

I open my big mouth and say

"What's the difference?"

He doesnt say anything for 10 seconds or so and then turns around, lookes me up and down and yells.

"RACIST"


So there you have it folks...I'm a racist :p

Sounds like a bit of a twat to me. So what was your retort to the allegation? The conversation couldn't have ended there.

[Sharpandpointies]

So there you have it folks...I'm a racist :p

Welcome to University....

[lonesomefool]

I just kinda sat there dumbfounded that someone could be so dumb....then I remembered I'm in a Tech School....we dont get the cream of the crop.

[Sharpandpointies]

rule #1: If your white (and especially if a white male), reverse racism does not exist. Learn that now. It simply doesn't exist. To suggest otherwise is racist.

rule #2: If a non white displays behavior that seems racist, you are just confused and don't understand the situation. See rule #1

rule #3: To claim you are not racist, as a white is wrong. By definition you are white therefore a majority, therefore racist and you should do what you can to right the wrong you may have done, will do, have thought of doing or some great-great-great ancestor has done in the past. To suggest that is not right is racist. See rule #1.

rule #4: Never debate race. Ever. Red alarms should go off in your head so loud you can't hear anything else. Bail as fast as you can. See rules #1-3 for why.


Props to kingdom2000 for this witty and unfortunately all-too-applicable answer. :)

[Forsaken_One]

He against them being gay in the first place.
Exactly. I support the social acceptance of open male homosexuality, it's horrible that they have to be forced into loveless marriages with heterosexual women to hide what they are and who they are. On the other hand I don't support that acceptance with female homosexuality, I think it's a good thing for them to marry some other male heterosexual shmuck to hide their condition, thus eliminating at least one competitor. :p

[west3man]

rule #1: If your white (and especially if a white male), reverse racism does not exist. Learn that now. It simply doesn't exist. To suggest otherwise is racist.
It doesn't exist, no matter what color you are. Racism is racism.

[Rhydaman]

the guy is clearly both racist and sexist.
Or taking the piss.

[YoungG03]

you shouldnt let people have power over you...This guy prob just watch Roots or something and want to act up.

[Motormouse]

It doesn't exist, no matter what color you are. Racism is racism.

That's unfortunately true. I know a few blacks who are just as racist as any white supremacist :(

[Sharpandpointies]

I just kinda sat there dumbfounded that someone could be so dumb....then I remembered I'm in a Tech School....we dont get the cream of the crop.

What you mean is you don't get the radicals who like hearing themselves talk.

[Wannabe]

That's unfortunately true. I know a few blacks who are just as racist as any white supremacist :(


I know a few as well. It kind of irks me how anybody except White people can say racial comments and nobody care.

[mistervader]

I like how Chris Rock makes the distinction between "blacks" and "n's", though. It was fairly amusing...

If I like staring mainly Chinese/Korean/Japanese/Taiwanese girls, does that make me racist? Or do I have to sincerely dislike non-Asian types to be one? :P

[Sharpandpointies]

If I like staring mainly Chinese/Korean/Japanese/Taiwanese girls, does that make me racist? Or do I have to sincerely dislike non-Asian types to be one? :P

I figure that liking the appearance of one race (or races) over others isn't at all racist. That's called personal preference.

[Wannabe]

I figure that liking the appearance of one race (or races) over others isn't at all racist. That's called personal preference.


I agree that that's not racist, but it would also be somebody's personal preference if they didn't like black people.

[Noah Johnson]

Yeah, I like girls with glasses and nice round butts. I don't think that means I'm in some way being mean to the flat-butted 20/20 girls.

[mistervader]

Yeah, I like girls with glasses and nice round butts. I don't think that means I'm in some way being mean to the flat-butted 20/20 girls.

But you would be if you were God's gift to women, like me. :P

(I'm kidding, I'm kidding!!!)

But yeah... glasses. Rowr. There's something about hot but geeky-looking girls...

[Sharpandpointies]

I agree that that's not racist, but it would also be somebody's personal preference if they didn't like black people.

Yes, and it would also be racist. A square is a rectangle. A rectangle is not necessarily a square.

Here, I'll fix it.

I figure that liking the appearance of one race (or races) over others isn't at all racist, as society use the word. That merely personal preference regarding appearance, without the hate connotations.

There. Clear as mud.

[WhiteRose]

Yes, but we're competing for the bicurious drunk girls... :p

I would totally take you down in the competition :P

[Gaz]

I would totally take you down in the competition :P
Sadly, you're almost certainly right...

[west3man]

Not having been attracted to any Black people you've ever seen doesn't necessarily mean you're a racist.
Not having liked any Black people you've ever met doesn't necessarily mean you're a racist.

Assuming, that any and all Black people are incapable of being attractive and/or likable sounds suspiciously racist to me.

[SoulOnIce]

So I'm sitting in my Human Relations class today, and the subject of interracial dating comes up. I'm a laid back guy who doesnt care what other people do with their lives if it doesnt harm anyone. So anyway, the teacher calls on me out of the blue, and asks me

"What do you think about a white girl dating a african american male"

I say

"no problem with it, if it makes them both happy, go for it"

so she then says

"What about a Black girl dating a white guy"

I say

"No problem with it, if it makes them happy, go for it"

So anyway, this guy sitting a couple seats ahead of me, who happens to be black, say's he agrees with me on the first part, he says it's cool when a white girl dates a "brother" as he said (his words, not mine, so dont yell at me)

He then goes on to say that

"A black girl should never date a white guy, that aint right"

I open my big mouth and say

"What's the difference?"

He doesnt say anything for 10 seconds or so and then turns around, lookes me up and down and yells.

"RACIST"


So there you have it folks...I'm a racist :p

This story smells like horseshit to me.

[Lubichev]

What does a racist vegetarian know? ;)

[Spackling Compound]

This story smells like horseshit to me.

Shit-ist!!!
Why it gotta be "horseshit"? You not down with bullshit?

I think it could be true. Why would he make that up?

[Sharpandpointies]

[puts on Nomex suit] Here we go....

[Nate Grey]

So I'm sitting in my Human Relations class today, and the subject of interracial dating comes up. I'm a laid back guy who doesnt care what other people do with their lives if it doesnt harm anyone. So anyway, the teacher calls on me out of the blue, and asks me

"What do you think about a white girl dating a african american male"

I say

"no problem with it, if it makes them both happy, go for it"

so she then says

"What about a Black girl dating a white guy"

I say

"No problem with it, if it makes them happy, go for it"

So anyway, this guy sitting a couple seats ahead of me, who happens to be black, say's he agrees with me on the first part, he says it's cool when a white girl dates a "brother" as he said (his words, not mine, so dont yell at me)

He then goes on to say that

"A black girl should never date a white guy, that aint right"

I open my big mouth and say

"What's the difference?"

He doesnt say anything for 10 seconds or so and then turns around, lookes me up and down and yells.

"RACIST"


So there you have it folks...I'm a racist :p

Hold on, a guy blurts out a statement, you respond, he's quiet for 10 seconds, then YELLS "Racist"? Then what? What did the teacher do? Did he use it as a segue of some sort? Or was class immediately over at that point?

Sorry, just feels like some details are missing.

[Ogdred]

Hold on, a guy blurts out a statement, you respond, he's quiet for 10 seconds, then YELLS "Racist"? Then what? What did the teacher do? Did he use it as a segue of some sort? Or was class immediately over at that point?

Sorry, just feels like some details are missing.

And what was everyone wearing?

[Gaz]

Hold on, a guy blurts out a statement, you respond, he's quiet for 10 seconds, then YELLS "Racist"? Then what? What did the teacher do? Did he use it as a segue of some sort? Or was class immediately over at that point?

Sorry, just feels like some details are missing.
I figured he meant the guy paused, for a significant period, considering the question. Then responded with his considered, and balanced reply.

[west3man]

Hold on, a guy blurts out a statement, you respond, he's quiet for 10 seconds, then YELLS "Racist"? Then what? What did the teacher do? Did he use it as a segue of some sort? Or was class immediately over at that point?

Sorry, just feels like some details are missing.
That's how I see it.

lonesomefool, are you sure he didn't also steal your car and drive it into a lake with your kids in the back seat?

[Ogdred]

That's how I see it.

lonesomefool, are sure he didn't also steal your car and drive it into a lake with your kids in the back seat?

Probably threw some sneakers onto a telephone wire behind your house, too.

[Gail Simone]

Lonesomefool's a racist.

I'm telling.

Gail

[Nate Grey]

And what was everyone wearing?

I figured he meant the guy paused, for a significant period, considering the question. Then responded with his considered, and balanced reply.

I'm glad for you two that all he said was all the info you needed, but for me, I'd like to know what happened AFTERWARD. I'm not questioning the validity of it, or even suggesting the guy was somehow right, but the story just seems to stop abruptly for some reason. What did the teacher and/or class do? Did they ream the guy a new one, awkward silence, what?

[Ogdred]

I'm glad for you two that all he said was all the info you needed, but for me, I'd like to know what happened AFTERWARD. I'm not questioning the validity of it, or even suggesting the guy was somehow right, but the story just seems to stop abruptly for some reason. What did the teacher and/or class do? Did they ream the guy a new one, awkward silence, what?

Hey, I'm with you. The story sounds a little urban-legendish to me. But, you (and several others) had already asked what happened next, so there was no point in being redundant and asking again. However, I couldn't pass up the opportunity to be snide. Could I? No. I couldn't.

[Nate Grey]

Hey, I'm with you. The story sounds a little urban-legendish to me. But, you (and several others) had already asked what happened next, so there was no point in being redundant and asking again. However, I couldn't pass up the opportunity to be snide. Could I? No. I couldn't.

Maybe he missed it the first time? Who knows. But I wanted to know so I asked. If I get no answer, well I guess that would be my answer.

[west3man]

Maybe he missed it the first time? Who knows. But I wanted to know so I asked. If I get no answer, well I guess that would be my answer.
That's the way I see that, too. If lonesome's answered, my question, I missed it.

So, that answer lead me to a particular conclusion.

[Greg Blackman]

Dude, I had SO many experiences like this living in london.

A young black dude pushing his way to the front of a twelve person que then screaming at us for being racists when we asked him to que with everyone else.

My black neighbor in the flat above me barging into my flat and pushing my girlfriend around, screaming at us for being 'White Supremacists' (my girlfriend was Asian btw) because we asked him not to slam the door and wake us up when he came home at 2 in the morning. Had to call the police eventually when he started trying to get violent with what he called my 'white bitch'.

The same guy showing his racial solidarity by attempting to rape a girl from his (wouldn't ya know it) gospel choir group the very next week, another call to the police from us stopped that one.

All my liberal apologist viewpoints went out of the window in about six months when i lived alongside black people. A dickhead is a dickhead, and a good guy is a good guy, reguardless of colour.

I saw so much piss poor behaviour from young black males that I thank God for my friendship with Leon McKenzie, my best friend in the whole world and the guy who got me properly into illustrating comic books.

Leon is a determined young black man who works damn hard at his career, loves and takes care of his son, accepts no excuses from anyone for poor behaviour, (especially if they share his skin colour and start complaining about The Man, he HATES that), and has more or less single handedly proven to me that every person who defies a negative stereotype is worth fifty that can't be bothered. Leon, we salute you!

[west3man]

"Sir, you can't clip your toenails where we prepare the food. In fact, you shouldn't even be behind the counter, if you don't work here."

"RACIST!"


Maybe I haven't lived long enough, lived in the right areas, or lived with the right skin color to have witnessed any such events, but these stories sound incomplete, to me.

[SoulOnIce]

lonesomefool, are you sure he didn't also steal your car and drive it into a lake with your kids in the back seat?

Line of the year.

[bfrank]

So I'm sitting in my Human Relations class today,

I just kinda sat there dumbfounded that someone could be so dumb....then I remembered I'm in a Tech School....we dont get the cream of the crop.
2 + 2 is not adding up to 4 here.......

[Ogdred]

My uncle's neighbor's girlfriend's cousin's chiropractor took his family to Mexico for vacation and they bought this weird little dog, right? Like a Chihuahua or something, but not exactly. When they got it home, they started to notice that it was acting really strange, right? Like, it would make this weird sort of chirpy-squeek type of noise all night long and would hiss at people it didn't like and would try to claw out your eyes if it thought you were looking at it the wrong way, right? So, they took it to the vet to try to figure out what was wrong with it and, you know what?!


They found out the dog was a RACIST!


True story.

[Spackling Compound]

2 + 2 is not adding up to 4 here.......
Tech schools can offer Human Relations classes.

[lonesomefool]

Yes, my school, St. Cloud Technical College requires Human Relations and Written Communications for my major, Heating and Air Conditioning. A couple years ago they didnt have it, but employers complained that the people they were hiring didnt have proper....well....Human Relations skills and asked SCTC to add it. Trust me, if it wasnt requires I wouldnt be taking it.

[Spackling Compound]

Yes, my school, St. Cloud Technical College requires Human Relations and Written Communications for my major, Heating and Air Conditioning. A couple years ago they didnt have it, but employers complained that the people they were hiring didnt have proper....well....Human Relations skills and asked SCTC to add it. Trust me, if it wasnt requires I wouldnt be taking it.

Racism is bad Human Relations...

You fail. I can't imagine you working on my HVAC...ever.

[bfrank]

Now this is interesting....what are they teaching in this class?

[lonesomefool]

And I alluded to what happened afterwards in post #30, but to go into more detail.

The guy blurts out I'm a racist, the fellow students looked at me for a response and I didnt want to get into a big thing with a guy who is as irrational as he seems to be so I just kinda sat there, dumbfounded. The teacher scolded him and forced him to apologize and after an akward feeling in the room for the remaining 15 minutes the class ended. If you want to know the smells, texture's, and looks of everyone I can do that to. Trust me, I'm not making this up, I have better things to do than go on an internet message board and make up stories. My name isnt Ray Tate.

[lonesomefool]

So far we have covered the following in Human Relations

Diversity Consciousness:Opening our minds to people, cultures and Opporitunities

Interpersonal, Job oriented skills

Understanding Individual Differences

Interpersonal communications
Devolpoing Teamwork skills
Group Problem Solving and Decision Making
Cross-Cultrural Relations and Diversity
Resolving Conflicts
Becoming a Leader
Motivating Others
Helping others
Positive Political Skills
Customer Satisfaction Skills
Enhancing Ethical behavior
Personal Productivity and Stress Management
Job Search and Career Management Skills
Communicating in a Diverse World
Teamwork

[Night Swordsman]

Now that makes no sense. Is it because lesbians are taking away eligible bachelorettes?

Um... hate to break it to you, but if that's the case then they weren't really on the market for male consumption in the first place. :D


Um wow. For once,i disagree with you.
You see,i have alot of female friends,many of whom like other women. The point is that many of them ALSO like men as well,ie they are bisexual. You would NOT believe the amount of dislike of bisexuals in the gay/lesbian community(and i get this from my friends,as i am not gay nor do i really have relationships,thus i see this from a neutral viewpoint),as they are considered either 'fakes' or stradling the fence or just tourists and they should be proud to be full gay and stay that way. I found this viewpoint,along with my friends,to be ridiculous. Saying "they weren't really on the market for male consumption in the first place" feels like you are limiting their options. I am for people to like people,and to be liked in return,as long as your both legal and both of sound minds(which limits most of US on this board...).

[Night Swordsman]

Dude, I had SO many experiences like this living in london.

A young black dude pushing his way to the front of a twelve person que then screaming at us for being racists when we asked him to que with everyone else.

My black neighbor in the flat above me barging into my flat and pushing my girlfriend around, screaming at us for being 'White Supremacists' (my girlfriend was Asian btw) because we asked him not to slam the door and wake us up when he came home at 2 in the morning. Had to call the police eventually when he started trying to get violent with what he called my 'white bitch'.

The same guy showing his racial solidarity by attempting to rape a girl from his (wouldn't ya know it) gospel choir group the very next week, another call to the police from us stopped that one.

All my liberal apologist viewpoints went out of the window in about six months when i lived alongside black people. A dickhead is a dickhead, and a good guy is a good guy, reguardless of colour.

I saw so much piss poor behaviour from young black males that I thank God for my friendship with Leon McKenzie, my best friend in the whole world and the guy who got me properly into illustrating comic books.

Leon is a determined young black man who works damn hard at his career, loves and takes care of his son, accepts no excuses from anyone for poor behaviour, (especially if they share his skin colour and start complaining about The Man, he HATES that), and has more or less single handedly proven to me that every person who defies a negative stereotype is worth fifty that can't be bothered. Leon, we salute you!

Damn. I salute Leon too. Thou i admit they exist,i DESPISE stereotypes. It is pure laziness. BE something,even if it gets you pegged as something. Least you STOOD up for something. And poor behavior is not something to be proud of,thou i unfortantely have seen this done.

[Night Swordsman]

Did you ever see the original WKRP in Cinn(i can't spell that name..never could),the tv show from the late 70s early 80s? Those of you who did probably know where i am going with this.

There was a GREAT episode dealing with rascism. It still resounds to me to this day,thou the details get fuzzy. The highlight of the show was Dr. Johnny Fever's speech about rascism. I wont even try to paraphrase it,but i will go on and add this: We are afraid of what we don't know,do not understand,and do not desire,and this leads to dislike,anger,and hatred. And it becomes sooo easy to do this. We are ALL guilty of this,to some point of view or another. The best way to fight rascism is to keep a open mind and willing to learn. Knowledge really IS the best way fight rascism,but it has to be shared by everyone.


Ok..time to go pet cats and get off my soap box. Sorry if i sounded preachy,but i am a shy short white male,but i get so mad at seeing people either making racist remarks or being accused of being racist if they disagree someone with different skin color or religion or sexual preference that it makes me ill.

YOUR ALL FRICKING HUMAN BEINGS. LEARN TO ACCEPT THAT.

Sometimes makes me wish i was a cat with a nice home and lots of fancy feast. Cept then i wouldnt get to read comics or play video games.

[Cam63]

I've got no reason to doubt lonesomefool's honesty.

[west3man]

I've got no reason to doubt lonesomefool's honesty.
Missing details then two days of silence after being questioned about specifics made my nose wiggle. I'm gonna be straight-up about that.

[mistervader]

Anyone ever saw that Jerry Springer episode where they had KKK members?

Which reminds me... are those guys in that show for real? Or are they just hired actors/fighters?

[heystacy]

Missing details then two days of silence after being questioned about specifics made my nose wiggle. I'm gonna be straight-up about that.


I see your point. I don't doubt it happened. He may have been posting in a reactionary sense. I am sure lonsome can defend himself. I don't want to go too far with this. Like I said point taken.

[Cam63]

Anyone ever saw that Jerry Springer episode where they had KKK members?

Which reminds me... are those guys in that show for real? Or are they just hired actors/fighters?

Even the stage hands are actors.

[cactusmaac]

Missing details then two days of silence after being questioned about specifics made my nose wiggle. I'm gonna be straight-up about that.

Huh?

His initial account seemed reasonably complete, and it's not like everyone posting here is always online.

[mistervader]

Even the stage hands are actors.
Heh. Okay. I can watch that show with a grain of salt from now on. :P

It was my poor man's substitute for wrestling. :P

[lonesomefool]

I hadnt checked the thread for a couple days since it kinda went into a society debate about racism and stuff and I grew uninterested after awhile. Plus, I did mention what I did after he said it in post #30, I just didnt know how detailed you wanted it to be UNTIL i checked it today.

[titanfan]

Now this is interesting....what are they teaching in this class?

A lot of tech jobs are all about human relationships these days. Namely, the art of how to get things accomplished despite being surrounded by technically inept people. The tech stuff of the tech industry is actually the easy part. ;)

[west3man]

Huh?

His initial account seemed reasonably complete, and it's not like everyone posting here is always online.
Plenty of people disagree about that "reasonably complete" part. In fact, I was quite surprised when some of you suggested it. I had to rub my eyes.

As far as always being online, lonesome DID respond... without providing the specifics we requested. So, it wasn't about whether lonesome was available to comment. It was lonesome's choice to type a nice-sized post that barely fleshed-out the wild-ass non-sequitor that was yelled at him in a class full of people and in front of a teacher. Then to come back and type two or three lines that hardly provided any additional details.

If you think that's "reasonably complete," we've got very different standards of completion.

[lonesomefool]

Ok, cause I'm too lazy to go check back a few pages, what exactly do you want to know. Cause you know I dont like being called a liar....isnt exactly a nice label.

[Gaz]

Plenty of people disagree about that "reasonably complete" part. In fact, I was quite surprised when some of you suggested it. I had to rub my eyes.

As far as always being online, lonesome DID respond... without providing the specifics we requested. So, it wasn't about whether lonesome was available to comment. It was lonesome's choice to type a nice-sized post that barely fleshed-out the wild-ass non-sequitor that was yelled at him in a class full of people and in front of a teacher. Then to come back and type two or three lines that hardly provided any additional details.

If you think that's "reasonably complete," we've got very different standards of completion.
And that he was lying or leaving out some genuinely racist comment, as the assumption appears to be, never occurred to me.
That response, sadly, didn't seem at all implausible to me.

[west3man]

Ok, cause I'm too lazy to go check back a few pages, what exactly do you want to know. Cause you know I dont like being called a liar....isnt exactly a nice label.
You posted the thread and failed to give all the details. I and others asked for details, SOME specific ones, even, and you responded within a couple of hours, but without providing those details.

History, details, and timeframe, among other things, I'm sure, factor into how much Stranger A believes what Stranger B has to say. You and I have no history (neutral), you left out essential details (negative), and it took you almost two days* to paint the rest of the picture (negative).

I know it's not fun to know that someone else doubts your word. Hell, I've complained about strangers calling ME a liar. The difference is in the three factors I mention above. I don't want to actively call you a liar. That'd accomplish nothing positive and I doubt that there's anything you could do about it, after having had two days to prepare.

So, I'll drop out of the thread.





* - again, after having posted since starting the thread... a post that occurred AFTER the requests for specifics.

[west3man]

And that he was lying or leaving out some genuinely racist comment, as the assumption appears to be, never occurred to me.
That response, sadly, didn't seem at all implausible to me.
The fact that it never occurred to you and that you and others were so ready to believe what seemed implausible or incomplete to ME, was somewhat sad.

Now I'm gonna do what I said I'd do and unsubscribe.

[lonesomefool]

I didnt state anything racist towards him that made him snap, nor am I lying. The conversation went as I posted initially, then the teacher stepped in after his final comment, which is again in the first post. I just dont understand why my account is being questioned, it isnt like I made a post that said "A black guy called me racist". I gave details, I gave the conversation, if you choose not to believe me, fine, I just dont like being called a out and out liar is all.

[west3man]

Man, I can't step away fast enough.I didnt state anything racist towards him that made him snap, nor am I lying. The conversation went as I posted initially, then the teacher stepped in after his final comment, which is again in the first post.No, it wasn't. Look, again.

So I'm sitting in my Human Relations class today, and the subject of interracial dating comes up. I'm a laid back guy who doesnt care what other people do with their lives if it doesnt harm anyone. So anyway, the teacher calls on me out of the blue, and asks me

"What do you think about a white girl dating a african american male"

I say

"no problem with it, if it makes them both happy, go for it"

so she then says

"What about a Black girl dating a white guy"

I say

"No problem with it, if it makes them happy, go for it"

So anyway, this guy sitting a couple seats ahead of me, who happens to be black, say's he agrees with me on the first part, he says it's cool when a white girl dates a "brother" as he said (his words, not mine, so dont yell at me)

He then goes on to say that

"A black girl should never date a white guy, that aint right"

I open my big mouth and say

"What's the difference?"

He doesnt say anything for 10 seconds or so and then turns around, lookes me up and down and yells.

"RACIST"


So there you have it folks...I'm a racist :p

[cactusmaac]

You posted the thread and failed to give all the details. I and others asked for details, SOME specific ones, even, and you responded within a couple of hours, but without providing those details.

History, details, and timeframe, among other things, I'm sure, factor into how much Stranger A believes what Stranger B has to say. You and I have no history (neutral), you left out essential details (negative), and it took you almost two days* to paint the rest of the picture (negative).

I know it's not fun to know that someone else doubts your word. Hell, I've complained about strangers calling ME a liar. The difference is in the three factors I mention above. I don't want to actively call you a liar. That'd accomplish nothing positive and I doubt that there's anything you could do about it, after having had two days to prepare.

So, I'll drop out of the thread.



- again, after having posted since starting the thread... a post that occurred AFTER the requests for specifics.

Something's missing from this story.

If nothing else, your reaction and that of the other people within earshot - including the teacher.

That seemed more like a comment then a request for specifics.

I see no valid reason to doubt lonesome's word. If you're uncomfortable with the implications of the event he described, that's a different issue.

[lonesomefool]

1. There is no history between us, I dont talk to him, he doesnt talk to me. It's a big class and a big school, we dont sit close and we dont share the same major

2. I gave details, perhaps I should have made it sound like a Bendis comic, you know with the stutters and stuff so it sounds more realistic ;)

3.Timeframe doesnt really occur to me, maybe he was dealing with some crap in his life and lashed out. Again, I dont know him and he doesnt know me, maybe he was upset about something and needed to lash out, god knows we all need to do that sometimes.

[Gaz]

Man, I can't step away fast enough.No, it wasn't. Look, again.
Fair enough. But honestly, I'm confused as to what you thought was missing. In a situation such as this, the only thing that might be relevant is background to the relationship between the people involved, which wouldn't necessarily occur to the person involved to provide.

I can't think of anything truly material missing that says "untrue" to me. Plus, where's the motive? Only one i can think of is sympathy, which is negligible.

[lonesomefool]

I'm not looking for sympathy, I just found it to be a pretty embarassing thing that happened to me and needed somewhere to voice it. I guess I shouldnt do that and try to keep focused on comics and stuff from now on.

[west3man]

Clearly this ain't gonna end as I'm not prepared to ignore these posts, which are directed at me, and the posts haven't ceased.That seemed more like a comment then a request for specifics.

I see no valid reason to doubt lonesome's word. If you're uncomfortable with the implications of the event he described, that's a different issue.
He saw that people thought the story was incomplete and he saw why, including with specifics. He ignored this.

If I see holes in a story, share that concern, then see that concern ignored (which is his right), I see no reason for my concerns to dissipate.

Believe what you want to, though. I'm not asking you to change your mind and you've given me no reason to change mine.

[mistervader]

I'm not looking for sympathy, I just found it to be a pretty embarassing thing that happened to me and needed somewhere to voice it. I guess I shouldnt do that and try to keep focused on comics and stuff from now on.
Don't sweat it. It was just all a little bit of a misunderstanding, I suppose....









... RACIST!!! (I'm sorry. I just couldn't resist. :D)

[west3man]

1. There is no history between us, I dont talk to him, he doesnt talk to me. It's a big class and a big school, we dont sit close and we dont share the same major

2. I gave details, perhaps I should have made it sound like a Bendis comic, you know with the stutters and stuff so it sounds more realistic ;)

3.Timeframe doesnt really occur to me, maybe he was dealing with some crap in his life and lashed out. Again, I dont know him and he doesnt know me, maybe he was upset about something and needed to lash out, god knows we all need to do that sometimes.
That's not what I meant, but thanks, for trying. Sincerely.

[Night Swordsman]

1. There is no history between us, I dont talk to him, he doesnt talk to me. It's a big class and a big school, we dont sit close and we dont share the same major

2. I gave details, perhaps I should have made it sound like a Bendis comic, you know with the stutters and stuff so it sounds more realistic ;)

3.Timeframe doesnt really occur to me, maybe he was dealing with some crap in his life and lashed out. Again, I dont know him and he doesnt know me, maybe he was upset about something and needed to lash out, god knows we all need to do that sometimes.

This isn't about your class incident. This is about the unprovoked Bendis Bashing in your second point. WTF?!?!?! First off..i occasionally stutter. The reason for this is that i do not enunciate certain words well,and i reword,WHILE talking,my sentances when i encounter a word i can not say well,thinking of certain words or phrases that i can convey what i have to say without using the word that gives me problems. Second off...I like Bendis's writing. So do alot of other people. You already stated,on another threaded started by you,that you have a dislike for his writing(thou not directly). Frankly,BMB has a following for a REASON,and that is the fact he writes characterization WELL,HONESTLY,and with all the bad points and good points as well. People are not 100% perfect,and espeically not in speech and talk habits. You may not like it,and your good and well to voice it..but WHERE IN THE HELL does your DISLIKE OF Brian Micheal Bendis have the FUCK to do with your incident of being called a racist?

Yes..i AM pissed off now.
And i AM letting you know it.

[west3man]

Fair enough. But honestly, I'm confused as to what you thought was missing. In a situation such as this, the only thing that might be relevant is background to the relationship between the people involved, which wouldn't necessarily occur to the person involved to provide.

I can't think of anything truly material missing that says "untrue" to me. Plus, where's the motive? Only one i can think of is sympathy, which is negligible.
I've said, multiple times, what I thought was missing. I didn't bother listing EVERYthing I wanted to know, but clearly there would've been no benefit to doing so.

I've had people express disbelief for stories I've told in far more detail in a much shorter period of time.


Let race enter the picture and some people will think others are too quick to yell "Racism" and some will think others are too quick to deny "Racism." That's just how it is. I have my reasons and you have yours.

[cactusmaac]

This isn't about your class incident. This is about the unprovoked Bendis Bashing in your second point. WTF?!?!?! First off..i occasionally stutter. The reason for this is that i do not enunciate certain words well,and i reword,WHILE talking,my sentances when i encounter a word i can not say well,thinking of certain words or phrases that i can convey what i have to say without using the word that gives me problems. Second off...I like Bendis's writing. So do alot of other people. You already stated,on another threaded started by you,that you have a dislike for his writing(thou not directly). Frankly,BMB has a following for a REASON,and that is the fact he writes characterization WELL,HONESTLY,and with all the bad points and good points as well. People are not 100% perfect,and espeically not in speech and talk habits. You may not like it,and your good and well to voice it..but WHERE IN THE HELL does your DISLIKE OF Brian Micheal Bendis have the FUCK to do with your incident of being called a racist?

Yes..i AM pissed off now.
And i AM letting you know it.


Jesus. Take an aspirin and go lie down for a coupe of hours.

[lonesomefool]

It was a JOKE

Calm down, yeah I dont like Bendis' non DD work, but the guy get's a ton of crap about his dialogue by his own fans. I think Bendis does pretty good dialogue, it was more of a joke tha this own fans give him crap over, check out his MB sometime for proof of that.

YOu really need to calm down, It was a joke, as evidenced by my wink emoticon at the end, it was an attempt to lighten the tension here. I apologize if it offended you, it appears this thread was a VERY bad idea.

[west3man]

This isn't about your class incident. This is about the unprovoked Bendis Bashing in your second point. WTF?!?!?! First off..i occasionally stutter. The reason for this is that i do not enunciate certain words well,and i reword,WHILE talking,my sentances when i encounter a word i can not say well,thinking of certain words or phrases that i can convey what i have to say without using the word that gives me problems. Second off...I like Bendis's writing. So do alot of other people. You already stated,on another threaded started by you,that you have a dislike for his writing(thou not directly). Frankly,BMB has a following for a REASON,and that is the fact he writes characterization WELL,HONESTLY,and with all the bad points and good points as well. People are not 100% perfect,and espeically not in speech and talk habits. You may not like it,and your good and well to voice it..but WHERE IN THE HELL does your DISLIKE OF Brian Micheal Bendis have the FUCK to do with your incident of being called a racist?

Yes..i AM pissed off now.
And i AM letting you know it.
wow
See, now I'm on the side that thinks THIS is an overreaction.

Some of you think "race" is such a sore spot with me that I jumped to an unlikely conclusion. Obviously I disagree.
I think stuttering and Bendis (for some reason) are sore spots for NS and caused NS to jump to an unlikely conclusion. I'm guessing that NS disagrees.

And life goes on.



For the record, the thread-starter and I have talked in p.m. and are unlikely to do any flaming, at this time.

[Night Swordsman]

wow
See, now I'm on the side that thinks THIS is an overreaction.

Some of you think "race" is such a sore spot with me that I jumped to an unlikely conclusion. Obviously I disagree.
I think stuttering and Bendis (for some reason) are sore spots for NS and caused NS to jump to an unlikely conclusion. I'm guessing that NS disagrees.

And life goes on.



For the record, the thread-starter and I have talked in p.m. and are unlikely to do any flaming, at this time.

I disagree. Life goes on. =)
See? That wasn't so hard!

[Night Swordsman]

Jesus. Take an aspirin and go lie down for a coupe of hours.
Sorry,i am not nor claim to be in any way Jesus.
I do not like aspirins and do not wish to take them,especailly when i am not having a headache.

I have no desire to go lie down for a "coupe" of hours,even if you desire it.

And life goes on. =)

[Ogdred]

Um...guys? I made up that part about the Chihuahua being a racist. Hope you're not pissed.

[west3man]

I disagree. Life goes on. =)
See? That wasn't so hard!
Sho' nuff.

[lonesomefool]

How dare you.....I feel betrayed.



;)

[Night Swordsman]

It was a JOKE

Calm down, yeah I dont like Bendis' non DD work, but the guy get's a ton of crap about his dialogue by his own fans. I think Bendis does pretty good dialogue, it was more of a joke tha this own fans give him crap over, check out his MB sometime for proof of that.

YOu really need to calm down, It was a joke, as evidenced by my wink emoticon at the end, it was an attempt to lighten the tension here. I apologize if it offended you, it appears this thread was a VERY bad idea.

I came straight from the other thread to here,and that was my mistake. And yes,i do now see the wink icon. My apologies. And i have lurked(i only post ever HERE or on newsarama,and once or twice on Peter David's blog) on Jinxworld,and yes i have seen people bash BMB. But to be honest,i have not enjoyed everything written by him,but i have NOT been betrayed by his writing,by having him write down to his audience. He tells stories. Your not going to like EVERY story. But you WILL be told them,if you choose to hear them in the true form the writer sets out to tell you them.

[Night Swordsman]

Sho' nuff.

Please do NOT bring in the Last Dragon into this. Please,i beg of you. ;)

[lonesomefool]

Hey, I actually like Bendis, as I mentioned. I think his Daredevil run is on par with Frank Miller's DD. Alias was the best comic to come out of Marvel in ages (and it had Anal sex....always a plus j/k). Ultimate Spider-Man's first 40 or so issues were great, Powers was the comic that got me into non-DC and Marvel stuff. I dont HATE Bendis, and I dont hate his dialogue or his characterization. Hell, the only thing I would change about him is his pacing which too often, much like JMS for me, is too slow. That's my ONLY complaint about Bendis, other than that I think he is a very good writer, ESPECIALLY in trades.

[west3man]

Please do NOT bring in the Last Dragon into this. Please,i beg of you. ;)
Kiss my Converse.

[Buzz Dixon]

Anyone ever saw that Jerry Springer episode where they had KKK members?

Which reminds me... are those guys in that show for real? Or are they just hired actors/fighters?
Both. Some years back when my older daughter was sick at home for a week, she watched a "Best Of" series of Springer episodes and the same guy appeared in three different shows under three different names!

[Buzz Dixon]

1. There is no history between us, I dont talk to him, he doesnt talk to me. It's a big class and a big school, we dont sit close and we dont share the same major

2. I gave details, perhaps I should have made it sound like a Bendis comic, you know with the stutters and stuff so it sounds more realistic ;)

3.Timeframe doesnt really occur to me, maybe he was dealing with some crap in his life and lashed out. Again, I dont know him and he doesnt know me, maybe he was upset about something and needed to lash out, god knows we all need to do that sometimes.
Could it have possibly be an ill-executed attempt at humor?

While we're on the subject of preferences in the opposite sex (well, we weren't, but we are now), what about guys like me who have a preference for women outside our particular ethnic group? Is that racism, anti-racism, non-racism, or just esthetic preference?

[sk716]

Anyone ever saw that Jerry Springer episode where they had KKK members?

Which reminds me... are those guys in that show for real? Or are they just hired actors/fighters?

Little of both really, well, sort of.

Several years ago, before I knew him, a friend of mine got together with some of his friends and decided they were going to get on Springer.

They made of this twisted love triangle and called the show. They got on and proceeded to put on what I understand to be the most horrific occurence of flaming queen/bisexual man/pregnant woman love triangle fighting ever. I haven't seen the tape, so I can't say for myself just how awful/fake/sordid this show really was. A copy of the tape did resurface recently, so hopefully, I'll get to see it, soon.

[lonesomefool]

I think it's just preference, I know a lot of white guys who LOVE Black women, and I know a lot of black guys who LOVE white women. I think part of it is the social taboo that still exists in parts of the country, and I think part of it is also that as society progresses, we are mixing races and cultures and the such where people are feeling more comfortable being in an interracial relationship. I think the best part of my generation, is I see racism dropping and tolerance rising. By that I mean, 20 years ago a white woman dating a Black guy would have been frowned upon, now I think a lot of people my age (I hope) think nothing of it.

I think as the generations go on, the more tolerant we become. That said Arab discrimination is still, sadly, high. I know a white guy in one of my classes who dates an Arab woman, and he has spoken openly about some of the stares they get and the such. It seems sometimes we are SO close to being a fully integrated society, and other times so far away.

[SoulOnIce]

Dude, I had SO many experiences like this living in london.

A young black dude pushing his way to the front of a twelve person que then screaming at us for being racists when we asked him to que with everyone else.

My black neighbor in the flat above me barging into my flat and pushing my girlfriend around, screaming at us for being 'White Supremacists' (my girlfriend was Asian btw) because we asked him not to slam the door and wake us up when he came home at 2 in the morning. Had to call the police eventually when he started trying to get violent with what he called my 'white bitch'.

The same guy showing his racial solidarity by attempting to rape a girl from his (wouldn't ya know it) gospel choir group the very next week, another call to the police from us stopped that one.

All my liberal apologist viewpoints went out of the window in about six months when i lived alongside black people. A dickhead is a dickhead, and a good guy is a good guy, reguardless of colour.

I saw so much piss poor behaviour from young black males that I thank God for my friendship with Leon McKenzie, my best friend in the whole world and the guy who got me properly into illustrating comic books.

Leon is a determined young black man who works damn hard at his career, loves and takes care of his son, accepts no excuses from anyone for poor behaviour, (especially if they share his skin colour and start complaining about The Man, he HATES that), and has more or less single handedly proven to me that every person who defies a negative stereotype is worth fifty that can't be bothered. Leon, we salute you!

I wonder if Leon would appreciate your condescenion.

[SoulOnIce]

What does a racist vegetarian know? ;)

What did the men's Russian hockey team end up doing in Turin?

[Motormouse]

[QUOTE=Greg Blackman]Dude, I had SO many experiences like this living in london.

A young black dude pushing his way to the front of a twelve person que then screaming at us for being racists when we asked him to que with everyone else.

My black neighbor in the flat above me barging into my flat and pushing my girlfriend around, screaming at us for being 'White Supremacists' (my girlfriend was Asian btw) because we asked him not to slam the door and wake us up when he came home at 2 in the morning. Had to call the police eventually when he started trying to get violent with what he called my 'white bitch'.

The same guy showing his racial solidarity by attempting to rape a girl from his (wouldn't ya know it) gospel choir group the very next week, another call to the police from us stopped that one.

All my liberal apologist viewpoints went out of the window in about six months when i lived alongside black people. A dickhead is a dickhead, and a good guy is a good guy, reguardless of colour.

I saw so much piss poor behaviour from young black males that I thank God for my friendship with Leon McKenzie, my best friend in the whole world and the guy who got me properly into illustrating comic books.[QUOTE]


Seems to me that you're demonizing the many due to the acts of a few. Growing up in the late 70's -early 80's in London i had to content with the National front and the BNP as well as taking shit from people who honestly thought that they weren't racist and in the next breath would see a white girl with a black guy and call her "Wogs meat". Do i now hate white people? No, i'd be hard pressed to hate anyone The two exceptions to this rule being an English journalist called Gary bushell and the man currently occupying 1600 pennsylavania ave (unfortunately, i find in almost impossible to hold a grudge) I don't want to preach but to use the words of a great man you shouldn't judge people by the colour of their skin, but by the content of their character. An honour you seem willing to do for leon.

[Ed Cunard]

Fair enough. But honestly, I'm confused as to what you thought was missing. In a situation such as this, the only thing that might be relevant is background to the relationship between the people involved, which wouldn't necessarily occur to the person involved to provide.

I can't think of anything truly material missing that says "untrue" to me. Plus, where's the motive? Only one i can think of is sympathy, which is negligible.

Let's try it a different way, because I think I know where West is coming from.

I have a story I want to give you. Let's call it... um... let's call it THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS. I want to give you this story before trade paperbacks and collectiosn were a big thing, so you get it in individual issues. And I only give you the first three of them.

It seemed to me that it's not just the context that was missing in the original post, but that it ended in a place that made me think there was more to the story--not necessarily in what was going on behind the scenes during the events described, but that the retelling of it ended before the actual end of the story.

Something like that.

[Gaz]

Let's try it a different way, because I think I know where West is coming from.

I have a story I want to give you. Let's call it... um... let's call it THE DARK KNIGHT RETURNS. I want to give you this story before trade paperbacks and collectiosn were a big thing, so you get it in individual issues. And I only give you the first three of them.

It seemed to me that it's not just the context that was missing in the original post, but that it ended in a place that made me think there was more to the story--not necessarily in what was going on behind the scenes during the events described, but that the retelling of it ended before the actual end of the story.

Something like that.
Ok, that makes sense, I still don't agree, but I suppose I get it.
(I'm seeing it more as him wanting DK2 after reading the first one)

[Ed Cunard]

Ok, that makes sense, I still don't agree, but I suppose I get it.
(I'm seeing it more as him wanting DK2 after reading the first one)

I disagree. To couch it in more writing-oriented terms, he ended with the climax and left out the denouement.

[monkeysweat]

Could it have possibly be an ill-executed attempt at humor?
That's the only explanation outside of mental imbalance.

(I'm mad I found this thread so late.)

[Ed Cunard]

(I'm mad I found this thread so late.)

You've got the super-awesome-comics-strip-work-stuff excuse, though.

[YoungG03]

I know a few as well. It kind of irks me how anybody except White people can say racial comments and nobody care.

Its the way you say it...

[bfrank]

the bendis stuff made me laugh...this has the makings of the best thread ever.....

[mistervader]

All right... so I didn't want to start a new thread on this, so I thought I'd bring it up here...

... recently, I broke up with my girlfriend of ten months. There were lots of problems between us, but the main thing is that it stems from the fact that she's paranoid when it comes to her parents.

Her parents have no idea she's been dating me. Her parents are traditional Chinese people who would sooner disown their daughter than let them date someone who isn't Chinese.

It's sad, because I was very serious about this relationship. Now, I lose out to what I perceive as racism because my ex has been brainwashed by her parents all her life to just let them run her life, and let them be the ones to matchmake for her.

How could such a very xenophobic way of thinking come from people who live in YOUR country and not China? Sigh...

[west3man]

All right... so I didn't want to start a new thread on this, so I thought I'd bring it up here...

... recently, I broke up with my girlfriend of ten months. There were lots of problems between us, but the main thing is that it stems from the fact that she's paranoid when it comes to her parents.

Her parents have no idea she's been dating me. Her parents are traditional Chinese people who would sooner disown their daughter than let them date someone who isn't Chinese.

It's sad, because I was very serious about this relationship. Now, I lose out to what I perceive as racism because my ex has been brainwashed by her parents all her life to just let them run her life, and let them be the ones to matchmake for her.

How could such a very xenophobic way of thinking come from people who live in YOUR country and not China? Sigh...My opinion on this isn't particularly p.c., but I think that's a messed-up situation all the way around.

The girlfriend (now, "ex") and the parents.

[mistervader]

My opinion on this isn't particularly p.c., but I think that's a messed-up situation all the way around.

The girlfriend (now, "ex") and the parents.
For the record, what really ticks me off about this is, if you hate Filipinos so much, why are you living in the PHILIPPINES?

[west3man]

For the record, what really ticks me off about this is, if you hate Filipinos so much, why are you living in the PHILIPPINES?
Better to end things now than after they've gotten even MORE serious. Besides, if she won't stand up to them in this way, who knows what other problems you'd end up having to deal with. Same goes for them.

Cold comfort, I'm sure, but you're probably better off... for now. In fact, your choice may help her to stand up to them, at some point.

Either way, I'm guessing it'll work out for the best, whether you end up back together or not. Hopefully her life's journey will be that much better, as a result of this. Same for you.

[Buzz Dixon]

My wife is Korean. I met her when I was stationed there in the early 70s. Her grandmother's comments when she met me (translated later for my benefit) were: "Well, at least he doesn't have blue eyes and blonde hair."

[Dooby Doo!]

My wife is Mexican and I'm Black, her parents didn't take to kindly to her bringing a 'Chungo' to their home proclaiming she loved me and I her. They put me through hell!

My wife's father told me to my face he'd rather a whiteman marry his daughter than letting me. I'm like damn, it hurt. Yet in the end they came around and dealt with it (Mostly cause I got a good job and I'm fairly successful.) Yet I still get the 'dagger eyes' like they ready for me to mess up in some way.

Now we just had a kid and I will not trust my child with her family. Call me paranoid, but I don't want my kid feeling like he's less than, cause his grandmother is looking at him only seeing how dark he is.

[Buzz Dixon]

Dooby Doo! --

Grandkids tend to change things for the better. I write from experience.

[Dooby Doo!]

Dooby Doo! --

Grandkids tend to change things for the better. I write from experience.


I hope your right, It's just hard sometimes to be in these kind of relationships.
Sometimes I feel guilty cause I've put my child in this awkward situation and I don't speak a lick of spanish so really getting to know my inlaws is damn near impossible, plus the sh-t they probaly say about me in spanish.

In the end I'm sure it'll work out, but I want my son to be prepared to cut his losses if they still are the same even when he gets up in age.