I was reading Morales/Bachalo`s Cap Run Again...

[Frank]

I re-read all the issues in one batch yesterday and I was surprised how better it was that I remembered it. The artwork is still a problem in some parts but I liked Morales`depiction of Captain America a lot. I would even advance that even though the Brubaker Cap run is better, that Cap himself-his personality and so forth-was much more interesting under Morales. Wheras Brubaker`s Steve Rogers is more a canva for Bru to write his stories, Morales`take was fascinating because it was the character himself that was the focus(while the stories left to be desired in some places). I like the way for instance while he was standing up for America when talking to Castro, Cap threw this racist US general in the water in a good old-fashion "set you straight" thing.

[The Shadow]

how better it was that I remembered it.
I'll be honest... I enjoyed it a lot!

Brubaker's is superior... but this little run wasn't that bad... it just wasn't traditional Cap and I think Bachalo's art threw people.

[StoneGold]

It had some problems that you could tell were editorially induced, with a couple of storylines dropping out of thin air, but really, with a more traditional penciller, I think the Morales run would have been much better accepted. Quite frankly, I feel the same about the Iron Man Citizen Stark storyline that was going on at the same time, that it was way better than a lot of people give it credit for.


But yeah, Brubaker is better.

[Dial Tone]

It definitely didn't work for me, both in story tone as well as art. Hopefully, Brubaker and Epting's blueprint is what will be followed on this title for a long LONG time.

Cap should be, first and foremost, a superhero. Other elements can be blended in, just like Bru does, but those elements shouldn't be the focus.

Same with the art. Quirky styles are totally wrong for Cap. Strong traditional styled art like Epting's fits the strong traditional character of Captain America perfectly.

[Red State Cap]

This book was excrement, and that's a kind word for it.
Take a look at your local comic shop's back-issue boxes for V4. The two I've seen locally make it clear that hardly an issue sold of this piece of filth, and for good reason.

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[The Shadow]

This book was excrement, and that's a kind word for it.
Take a look at your local comic shop's back-issue boxes for V4. The two I've seen locally make it clear that hardly an issue sold of this piece of filth, and for good reason.
Wait... are't you the guy who hasn't liked Ed Brubaker's run? ;)

[Frank]

It definitely didn't work for me, both in story tone as well as art. Hopefully, Brubaker and Epting's blueprint is what will be followed on this title for a long LONG time.

Cap should be, first and foremost, a superhero. Other elements can be blended in, just like Bru does, but those elements shouldn't be the focus.

Same with the art. Quirky styles are totally wrong for Cap. Strong traditional styled art like Epting's fits the strong traditional character of Captain America perfectly.

I think Cap should be super-hero first but I think Morales had the "traditional man leaving out of his time" element better than Bru. Brubaker writes great stories but I don`t think his Cap is any different from how Englehart or Gruenwald wrote him. Wich is, put any other hero in the suit and it would not be that different, the way he thinks and acts. He`s an action man and that`s it. Wich is that way for 100% of the other super-heroes too. Morales gave him a personality all of his own. But Bru is like that with most of his characters. Replace his Catwoman with any other tough heroines and we would not see the difference.

[Red State Cap]

Wait... are't you the guy who hasn't liked Ed Brubaker's run? ;)
Not exactly. I'm the guy that doesn't like the fact that Bucky has been resurrected and so I dropped the book in protest.
Otherwise I think Mr. Brubaker's Cap was a good read, and certainly light years above V4.

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[BlackKnight]

I think Cap should be super-hero first but I think Morales had the "traditional man leaving out of his time" element better than Bru. Brubaker writes great stories but I don`t think his Cap is any different from how Englehart or Gruenwald wrote him. Wich is, put any other hero in the suit and it would not be that different, the way he thinks and acts. He`s an action man and that`s it. Wich is that way for 100% of the other super-heroes too. Morales gave him a personality all of his own. But Bru is like that with most of his characters. Replace his Catwoman with any other tough heroines and we would not see the difference.

I found Morales story very good, but had a lot of trouble with the horrible art that bachelo produced. Many times I felt like I was reading a kids book, with adult story line. Really just not a fan of bachelo.

[StoneGold]

Same with the art. Quirky styles are totally wrong for Cap. Strong traditional styled art like Epting's fits the strong traditional character of Captain America perfectly.
I'm not even sure if that is totally true, so much as Bachalo's artwork wasn't working, and definitely not working on Morales' story. Daniel Zezelj's work on Dead Man Running wasn't exactly traditional, but it fit the story Darko Macan was telling.